Why Did Men Stop Wearing Long Overcoats?
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00:00 Long Overcoats Introduction
Overcoats are still relatively common in menswear today, especially in cold climates but long overcoats, which we’re defining as reaching the knees or lower and designed to be worn over a suit seem to quickly be going the way of the dodo.
01:09 The Rise and Fall of the Overcoat
By the late 19th century the overcoat had essentially replaced other outerwear like capes and cloaks for everyday use. The early 20th century was the heyday of overcoats.
After World War II, however, cultural and fashion shifts occurred that saw the long overcoat go into decline. Of course, some gentlemen do still wear long overcoats. We here at the Gentleman’s Gazette are prime examples! But our long-overcoated ranks are much thinner today.
02:07 Reasons for Decline: 1. Changes in Transportation
04:40 2. Changes in Suits & Sport Coats
07:08 3. General Changes in Menswear
09:22 4. Cultural Associations
13:29 5. The Disappearance of Coat Culture
15:52 Why We Still Love Long Overcoats
We still love long overcoats because they remain the best outerwear option for more formal occasions that complement both your figure and the rest of your outfit. Long overcoats are ideally proportioned to be worn over suits and so never have that cluttered, overburdened look of other coats stretched over your ensemble.
Long overcoats also come in a variety of unique styles and finally, nothing helps keep your whole body warm and insulated like a heavy-weight overcoat that covers your legs.
17:55 Outfit Rundown - Jak na to + styl
People have given me many compliments on my camel overcoat. I don't have the heart to tell them I got the idea from American Psycho.
So do I
Perhaps just give them your business card instead? 😉
It was a good looking coat.
"Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Jacob Berk's camel overcoat"
Always loved a Camel Hair overcoat. I think because my dad had one. Still like a sports jacket too
Speaking of cultural associations, I was once going for a walk and I was wearing my trench coat. Suddenly, two police cars show up and the cop is asking me what am I doing, etc.
Turns out someone called the police because they saw "someone walking up the street in a trench coat" and got scared.
If i may ask; Were you wearing a hat? I have a theory that the right hat can make a long coat more "neighborly". I've noticed that people seem to be more friendly if I'm wearing a newsboy peak cap than a trilby.
Just for wearing a trench coat? Jeez people are too soft nowadays if they are getting scared over a coat 😂
@@Wildgamer-hs9xtSo true! It’s ridiculous!
@@Wildgamer-hs9xt two reasons why i am instantly more averse to a stranger wearing a trench coat:
1) it is not the norm to wear a coat like that. so anyone doing so has a reason. that reason could be harmless like just enjoying the fashion or being cold. but trench coats are the clothing of choice for exhibitionists and creeps wishing to expose themselves in public. im not a woman but even I am immediately conscious of a man wearing a trench coat.
2) another malicious reason to wear a trench coat is concealment. it is shockingly easy to conceal large items in a trench coat. be that a stolen item or a weapon of some kind.
@@PutitinDaramen Don't let me be the first to tell you how easy it is to conceal carry a pistol in nothing but a t-shirt and jeans. You probably pass at least 10 people a day who you don't know are packin heat.
The long overcoats I have 1) appear to be made better than the junk I see in stores, 2) last longer, 3) and look great. Throw in a 100% cashmere scarf? You're the man!
I dumpt my ones over 3 decades ago. Heavy, difficult to clean and dry, and it has'nt have a hood. So you still get your hair wet.
@@thesaw9988 most coats don't have hoods these days, only 'hoodies' which are nowhere near as warm or durable.
My old Military trench (circa 1980s) wore out years ago, as did my leather winter duster and I;ve been looking for replacements ever since. Most of the store stuff is unlined and too thing to do anything useful.
@@josephteller9715 I've got an old WWII era woolen US Army greatcoat. Warmest coat I've ever had, thing weighs around 15 pounds. Only cost me $10, this was around 1995, it's still going strong. My "everyday" long coat is a camel hair I got from a thrift store also in the 90's, price unremembered but probably on $5 or so. I get compliments on that coat all the time; a well made coat lasts a very long time.
@@thesaw9988 That's what a hat is for. Or an umbrella. Perhaps you've heard of those. ;-)
I think the title should be " Why men in USA stopped wearing long overcoat". Because actually here in Japan men still wearing long overcoats !
I live in Tokyo and i can genuinely say that long overcoat for men is still very much alive !
In Tokyo many if not most men walk and/or take mass transportation. (So reason #1)
He did say that at the start of the video
Same in Europe for office workers.
I’m Japanese and yeah I do wear long overcoats.
I think they help short men look a little taller, which might be a reason why we love them.
Also public transportation is a lot more common here.
Must look really cool
There is ONE big trend in society for why a lot of these really great clothes are uncommon. They look formal and we live in informal times.
@Cobra Action I know. Next time you look at a film from a 60's civil rights protest notice everyone involved is generally in their best clothes for the climate. I've often had to reconfirm by asking my 80 year old mother if people really dressed up that much to go places in the 40's-early 60's. They really did. People literally got dressed up more to go and protest than most of us do to go to a professional working office.
By the by I just noticed as I said that... in a poster on my wall Malcolm X is speaking. IT only shows from the neck up and his arm and raised hand ...but he's wearing exactly the kind of coat spoken of in this video.
Men no longer shave or dress well. Women neither. The fusion of men, women, boys, girls and technology is well under way, in case you haven't already noticed.
@@stuartbritton4811 Nah. Most transgender people dress pretty well. When they aren't wearing sweat clothes just like everyone else these days.
@@HontasFarmer80 I'll pretend I never read that comment.
I'd honestly love to wear this stuff along with bespoke or tailored suites and shoes but I'm never in enough situations to really justify spending that money.
Simply shift your way of thinking. Instead of formal wear as we know think of them, think of them as every day wear as people I the past did.
@@LadyVineXIII I can second this. I wear my greatcoat when I go to work at a distribution center for the postal service. I wear a collared shirt as I work, and maybe not the fanciest pants but ones that fit and look nice while being durable to wear and tear. There's no reason regular wear has to be bland.
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Just wear a suit? You don't have to spend a fortune, buy some suits in the sale that fit you relatively well then get a quote from a tailor.
As far as what people will think is, not much, some might think you're smart and others won't notice, you just look like you've come from work.
To make a suit it's important to choose the right colours and you look like you wear a suit every day for work, in films characters in suits like James bond, John which, bullet train, the gentleman, all these films have suits in some forms and if you notice they all fit the characters and what they do, so groom yourself well, keep clean, yout mannerisms, walk and language will all impact how the suit looks on you. But just wear one anyway! Also don't just copy outfits from movies, while they look good, that's based around a character, and that's an actor/actress playing that character, give it your own flair.
Same, but for me it's the heat of Texas. We never really get cold weather in my area 😔
I alternate between wearing a long German naval officer's coat and a long, heavy woollen French military coat from the Ecole Polytechnique to get through the Berlin winter. It's incredible what a difference you feel when you've got a coat long enough to keep the cold wind off your knees and legs. When I wear a shorter jacket on cold days, I immediately feel the difference.
I just googled both of them they look amazing
I have had Three Swedish Military Patrol Coats, Sheep skin lined. I have one left and it is fantastic in even the coldest wind. Pockets big enough for a half bottle of your favorite winter warmer.
Hence the term "bumfreezer" for a short jacket.
We were looking at some clothes to donate and I found my old trench coat from 1986. I was a college intern and the company had a very strict dress code...and I wanted a top coat for my suits. I used the coat well into the 90s as I had a traveling job and worked mostly in colder climates. Eventually business casual took over and I stopped wearing it. My son, who is 21 tried on the coat and thought it was really cool. And he decided he would keep it.
I thought I would get another one for myself and am having trouble finding one I like.
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really mate?@@fayereaganlover
@@fayereaganlovereven more useless short comment. What’s your point? I quite like hearing stories from other people’s lives.
@@fayereaganloverUseless in what way? It was relevant to the video and shared an interesting story.
I have my Dad's late 70s London Fog in dark Graphite, and a Beige Korean Made from mid 80s. Check thrift stores. I still see nice ones fairly often.
I think mostly because they became a hassle. Fewer restaurants, theaters, and businesses have "coat rooms" or coatroom attendants who take care of people's big coats. People realized that when seated in some establishment they'd probably have to hold their coat at their seat which is very awkward. They thought ahead to this and it didn't seem appealing, so they just stopped buying big overcoats.
I just ask can you put this somewhere for me please.
Last time I went to a restaurant with a coat from, one of the guests got their scarf or coat stolen and I think it was Burberry.
I wore long overcoats until I started doing freelance work, visiting four or five locations per day. Nobody had anywhere for me to put my coat. It eventually became more of a problem than it was worth.
because they didn't match the informal sports and leisure suits that became popular, and shorter, sportier jackets and coats showed off more of the man's body.
No coat rooms?
What 3rd world existence is this
I never have stopped wearing long coats. My philosophy on clothes is that if you carry on wearing what you like, it will ultimately come back into fashion. If it doesn’t - well it’s nice to be a bit different! Your outfit is great. So nice to see a younger person appreciating classic style. Thanks for the great video.
when it is really cold, i want my down parka which is pretty long, too. i feel like i am in my own living room.
@@rlkinnard I'd really like to have a sheepskin coat from The Sheepherder in Alma, Colorado, but it's difficult to justify spending that much on the coat.
The coldest days I've ever had were spent on horseback the day after a blizzard looking for cattle that strayed. If I still did that, I would easily be able to justify the expense.
@@hansbaeker9769 i use my down parka 3 or 4 days per year, but when I need it, i really enjoy it.
@@rlkinnard My next to the oldest brother used to be a helicopter pilot in Alaska and even flew out onto the ice pack on occasion to haul scientists out to set up and check equipment. He had some really warm fur lined
coats.
He passed away a few years ago.
I hadn't thought about it before, but I ought to see if the coats will fit me.
@@hansbaeker9769 Coats can be tailored to fit.
I still wear the black overcoat I got at Sears like 15 years ago. Still in excellent condition, has a removable inner layer for warmer weather, and it goes great with a wide variety of shirts and scarves. An old woman on public transit once asked me where I was going dressed so nice. I thanked her and said I was just going home from work.
I got one at Sears around d 25 years ago. About 70 bucks. It was a return.
I noticed a dramatic drop in the late 1970s in the United States when trench coats became associated with flashers, flashing (exposing themselves by opening the coat revealing nothing underneath) in public parks.
I'm glad I kept my long Burberry's overcoat. I purchased it in 1988 from Saks Fifth Avenue for only $300. It is heavy and nearly touches my ankles. A coat like that can't be purchased new today. Many of the new overcoats sold today are made of lightweight wool and have quilt linings.
Wow! $300 back then is very expensive. You must be rich! Anyways look like a great investment you did
True...purchased one recently...when I compared to one I have since 91ish...not as heavy!
I got a great deal the other day. I found a perfect condition Burberry's long coat, black color, made of Irish tweed, and handwoven (Chicago agents), with wooden buttons. The store was selling clothes on the KG, so i got it for 10€, little did they know it's worth.. I sent it to get treated and cleaned, but being that it is my first long wool coat, it changed my view forever. It is so elegant and timeless, so comfortable and so warm in even the hard winter days.. I sent it to a professional and he told me that this quality and material can be hard to find these days, so i hope that i never have to buy a new one!
Back in 1988, $300 was a lot of money 💴. I am glad for you that you bought and have kept the coat.
That was roughly $750 by todays standards, lol "only $300" like going by the modern number I'd be turning in about half a months wages. Glad you like the coat though
Over here in Japan I can attest they haven’t stopped, lots of men still wear these sorts of coats!
It got me curious into overcoats, thank you for the video!
Japan’s always been good at keeping the stuff that died in the USA alive.
I sell clothing online and sell a good amount of overcoats/macintosh jackets to japan.
@@rubyy.7374like jazz and funk ❤❤
@@rubyy.7374Heavy Metal music is another example.
I'm a woman and love full length overcoats! Not only are they warmer for those wearing trousers, they're also great to fill that gap in between skirts and boots. Thankfully they seem to be coming back into fashion along with pleats and cuffs.
I really love the style in wintery Moscow, where the girls wear long sable coats over mini-skirts and boots. The flashing legs are "stimulating" to say the least.
First of all: I never thought that someone would make a video about my coat problem!
I just love going for walks in a long coat, especially in winter. It keeps my upper body and knees warm.
I was able to buy my last "full coat" in the 90s. And then I searched and searched and searched. And, to be honest, I'm still looking.
I have had a good selection of "Top Coats" and never paid much or had them given. One made in the 70's is still warm and undamaged even though I hitch hiked around the UK it the early 80's and often slept in it in bus stations Squats, Gigs and fields, that and a good wooly hat will keep you good.
unless you are rather well off, they ARE difficult to find new, so i just buy used. would love a tailored Hugo Boss coat, but that ain't gonna happen, lol!
I get my long coats from military surplus
We in Europe still wear long overcoats. It has to do a lot with culture and environment. For example, Germany, Czechia and other surrounding countries are way too cold, plus most of the time we walk and use the public transport instead of driving cars. Long coats keep us warm in such way of life, compared to North American car culture.
I never quite understood European examples of cold. I just looked up the weather in Berlin and it’s 45 out! That’s warm enough you don’t even need an overcoat, maybe a top coat for all that rain. Does it get much colder than that deeper in the winter?
Yes in London public transport is way better than car.
@@Leo-vr3bg Occasionally we have -18 Celsius here in Germany, that would be -0.4 Fahrenheit.
@@Leo-vr3bg 45 out? You might as well be in the desert with that kind of temperature
I live in Austria, and I find it very diifficult to find long overcoats in shops here, if you don't want the rural Tracht and Loden look.
As someone who walks to work in a city, a long, heavy wool melton coat is the only thing that keeps me warm in the middle of winter.
Very nice! I'm guessing inspired by Roger Moore's Live & Let Die Chesterfield? 😉
@@gentlemansgazette Maybe one day I'll have that coat. Right now I have a single-breasted charcoal herringbone Chesterfield and a navy British warm, both vintage.
I always wear my long overcoat to church in the winter. It just looks good and goes well with my suit and vest. It was a present from my grandfather before he passed.
My dress evening overcoat (black, wool, silk lined), which I purchased in Venice in 1985, is of mid-calf length and I love it as much today as the day I bought it. I take very good care of it since, as you mention, it would be very difficult to replace. Classics are classics, precisely because they endure across time.
Even as just a teenager going to school I wear a full length overcoat. I think it really looks good and accentuates how my outfits fit together.
In the 90s long trench coats were banned at many schools
@@chiquita683 Really? Why?
Maybe in the US I can understand why.
Keep wearing it, man. It’s classy.
Same as I did in high school. That’s when I started my style journey as a matter of fact. Keep it up and dress the way you like best.
@@Napoleonvanderbilt Columbine high school shooting; the shooters wore trenches
I won't sugar coat it either, but I love my long overcoat! It's a heavy wool blend and covers mid-shin. It is great for late fall and winter in ND. Hello neighbor!
I see that months of seeing robinswords' shorts, which have been increasingly involving his dive into overcoats and pantaloons, has led me to this section of CZcams.
Thank you, Algorithm.
And thank you, Gentleman's Gazette, for both the interesting essay and well-edited video.
This turned out to be a lot more interesting than I was expecting. Thank you for the very detailed and well-researched explanation.
I continuously buy long overcoats and wear them 9 times out of 10 over a short coat. I just bought a beautiful black paletôt with a velvet collar that was made in 1943, flawless condition. I also just got another long coat that is charcoal grey in a thick mohair. It’s double breasted with an ulster collar, full belt and hand warmer pockets that was also made in the early 40s.
I bet you look very stylish in them too !
@@kfl611 Thanks! I certainly stand out from the crowd when wearing them. Most people where I live wear puffers, polyester jackets, or hoodies that are all short. On very cold days even with that on, they still appear cold. Not me, I’m very comfortable and warm. The thing about it is that my coats don’t cost all that much. They would if they were new but buying vintage is great for the wallet and usually has better quality than the new stuff anyways.
I love wearing overcoats and have received many compliments, some even comparing me to a character in Peaky Blinders which is one of my favourite shows!
Awesome! Have you seen our take on the Peaky Blinders style? www.gentlemansgazette.com/peaky-blinders-menswear-review/?
The black paletot i have with a velvet collar is very similar to Luca Changretta’s in the show. I pair mine with a chalk stripe suit and a fedora hat for the complete look. That’s just how I dress normally though even before I started watching that show.
That is funny you would say that. I was at the baptism of a friend of mine 2 weeks ago and I was wearing an overcoat. And another friend of mine mentioned peaky blinders while pointing at my outfit.
I've never seen the show though but I liked the compliment.
I found an old Yves Saint Laurent grey wool long coat from my grandfather a month ago. It's so stylish, warm and comfortable, i wear it almost at any occasion I have. And I love people looking at me as if I was a time traveler from the XIX century
I used to wear an overcoat daily for work during the winter. It was warm, and protected me from the wind, but because I had to do alot of walking, it was kind of restrictive around the legs when buttoned up. It was also constrictive as you said when riding in a vehicle.
A long coat also helps when I have to get in my freezing car in the morning
It's sad i wish I could live back then. I miss how we were back then. Men be classy, be different.
You should still aim to be fashionable if that's what suits you. No need to go back to the time of segregation and TB to have good fashion sense! I agree, stay classy. 👌🏽
Are you okay to die of strepthroat by age 35? Welcome back to 2022
Yeah the lovely days of racism, war, sexism, homophobia and repression
@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 as is yours.
Like the style, not the time period.
I am a made-to-measure Tailor, early on in my training my peer explained to me that the decline in long coat wearers was primarily due to mass production. Car coat length suits more verity of body shape and hight, whereas a long coat is more obviously too long or too short on anyone deemed unaverage.This explaination didn't put me off of long coats, to be honest my appeal of them has only risen, as I now deem them more luxurious than your average high street outfitters.
Personally, in the Snow Belt, few things beat a long coat when getting into a really cold car (until the seat heater warms up).
Very good observation Joeline. You have hit on something that few people notice (quite natural since most people nowadays are brainless creatures addicted to TV and videogames) The most important thing is to have a good/nice physique (being tall, slim and having well-proportioned limbs plus an easy, elegant gait will put you in a good stead) and secondly is to choose wisely clothes that will look very good on you, that is where fine tailoring makes all the difference. The cut of the clothes is more important than the fabric. I hope you are doing well in your beautiful craft. Regards!
My father and grandfather wore coats that were from factories ranging from 100 years ago up today.
The loss of the coat in society has more to do with modern society not valuing functionality and being more interested in fads and superficial trends.
Young people today also have no creative culture of their own because everything they consume is from the same sets of colleges and corporations. But that is about to change in the very near fucture.
@@bighands69 I am sure society is going to change for worse, unless you live in a bubble the Great Reset is already taking place and the people of the WEF told us very clearly that "you will own nothing and be happy". That means a world of slaves dressed miserably and very similarly like in Mao's China or the Soviet Union.
@@arslongavitabrevis5136
The people in the WEF are fantasists like yourself. They meet and talk about grand plans that will never happen because none of them are people of real substance. Most of them are failed politicians who got on the UN and EU gravy train but that is about it. Stop believing fantasy over reality.
I've worn a long overcoat over my suit all the time in winter since 1979 and never get razzed by anyone. I also wear a Greek fisherman's hat and scarf to go along with it. Keeps me warm. Sometimes I'll wear my long overcoat when I just want to be more formal. Having a hat and scarf really helps the look.
So fascinating!! This was my first watch here & I am going to be watching more!
Here in Japan winter is hitting hard but it's been IMPOSSIBLE to find a proper black longer overcoat. What is funny is that, for woman, they're EVERYWHERE but for man I can't find it for god's sake and I looked everywhere!
I am very sorry to hear that. I can't believe that in Japan you do not have elegant menswear shops. What about ordering a made-to-measure one? Would it be too expensive? BTW, how much costs a fine, pure wool suit in Japan?
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楽天市場で買うなら、多分大丈夫です。
俺もロング丈オーバーコートが大好き。
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One of the problem is cost when something is not common. You will find quality items but they can be expensive for many people.
@@arslongavitabrevis5136 pure wool suits seem to cost 40,000 to 60,000 yen, off the rack or made to measure. Most suits for sale are part synthetics and advertise their sporty and convenience features. Uniqlo and muji had some cheaper wool suits I think, but they are not fine, and feel like a cardigan knit sweater to wear.
@@rogerr.8507 Thank you for your input. Just a question. Are you living or lived in Japan? You seem to know a lot. My impression of Japan (and I have been there only twice and very briefly) is that the overall quality of things is very good but pricey and the really fine things (garments included, of course) are VERY expensive. Is that so? Regards
I love long top coats - so much more elegant than a sports or puffy jacket. I got a vintage Camel Hair long coat last year off of e-bay. A short trip to my tailor, and I soon had a custom fit coat that looks like it cost 10 times what I paid for it. Between that and a black wool long coat I own, I am covered!
I live in the Twin Cities where it’s cold in the winter months plus I’m a Mason and in fact, that’s where I got my first trench coat, from a older brother who gave me his trench coat. Now I’m looking to get a vintage Aquascutum or Burberry pre owned. This style of clothing is timeless if you ask me.
I actually started wearing a travel cloak...(just a big square of wool fabric with a cloak pin) and it is so warm ang cozy, and the looks i get from people are priceless
I never really understood why cloaks went out of style.
Long overcoats are still fairly common here in Saskatchewan where it's still cold enough in winter. I was at the bank with my overcoat having no place to go. I was already sweating in the overheated interior with my undershirt, shirt and tie, vest and suit coat, trying to balance a hat with gloves and scarf in it and a wool overcoat at the six inch bank ledge while manipulating my wallet and signing papers. No coat racks exist anymore.
Regardless of whether or not the overcoat is popular, I'll never stop wearing mine. I got a Michael Kors single breasted, charcoal overcoat from Macy's for an awesome deal and I love it.
I absolutely love the long overcoat I love dressing formally and the long coat compliments that. Great video definitely going to subscribe.
The long overcoat made a small comeback in the 80s, with iconic teen movie scenes as Judd Nelson pumping his fist in the air in The Breakfast Club and John Cusack, serenating his love interest with a boom box in Say Anything. The character Kyle Reese in The Terminator found his trench coat quite useful.
I actually have an overcoat that very closely resembled the one Judd Nelson wore in The Breakfast Club. It's Armani to boot! I got it off Ebay a couple years ago for less than $100.
Proud to be a part of an all but forgotten trend. Nothing beats the Victorian look of a london fog trench and bowler hat on a walk about on a brisk fall or cold winter morning. Great history, thanks for posting!
The old german WW 2 outfits look actually timeless, prob one of the best looking uniforms made
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Can't go wrong with Hugo Boss :)
@@oz_jones nowadays , unfortunately you can, back in the day it was more difficult for certain.
I like wearing my black overcoat but only when I’m dressed for formal or semi-formal situations with a suit or sport jacket. I appreciate the leg coverage on cold, windy, rainy days, but I’m usually in business casual or casual wardrobe where a shorter, warmer insulated winter jacket is more appropriate.
In the Midwest we certainly need a long overcoat. I have two trench coats and a Camelhair polo coat. Like you said, they are a bit cumbersome while in the car. I love to wear my pleated trousers, long rise and with cuffs in a variety of fabrics. Thank you for your videos.
Great piece. I nearly bankrupted myself recently on a Donegal Tweed overcoat from Cordings. It’s a work of art, and worth every penny. It’s in my wardrobe alongside my dark navy Crombie, Camel overcoat, and Burberry trench coat. All are knee-length. I’ll be wearing long overcoats here in North-East England for as long as I can stand upright.
I recently (last week) purchased a light grey overcoat from Next a UK fashion retailer. It can be worn with formal or casual wear. Having a mixed wool blend it is slightly weighted to give a snug warm fit this time of year. Also had several colleagues compliment me wearing it. Personally, I feel overcoats especially with suits on are very classy on a gentleman.
They can be worn with jumps and shirts as well to look smart but still casual.
I buy overcoat also, have been lucky to use a life in Scotland and I enjoy wearing my trench coat or chesterfield (and have couple more)
@Cobra Action wrong, if you actually take the time to search their website you'll find they have 63 overcoats available to purchase. Next time do your homework before you post a silly reply!!!
@Cobra Action Again, do your homework correctly, the video is about long overcoats reaching the knee or lower, And yes Next do sell overcoats reaching the knee or lower, I should know as I bought one several weeks ago. In fact I did my research for overcoats especially long length at the knee or lower. So again, educate yourself before you even reply to me.
@Cobra Action the most cringe argument is between internet "gentlemen" about their favorite fashion sense.
I started a film noir binge for the past 4 months. The look of a long coat and fedora is just so cool
A dramatic change in this direction was made after the pandemic when suddenly you could almost only find very short jackets. It seems that now it has slowly started to come back in fashion and you can find me something other than "very short".
Picked up a black cashmere overcoat for my son at a rummage sale. Perfect condition. He works at a tourist railroad & it looks great with his vintage conductor uniform. Big hit & keeps him warm ☃️🚂
Many young men in high culture circles in continental Europe still wear long overcoats, often assorted with a pair of chunky sneakers. Avangarde designers like Demna Gvasalia at Balenciaga have made long overcoats a desirable garment for the continent's posh for the past 7-8 years.
Having the kiddie fiddlers at Balenciaga make long overcoats probably doesn't help.
Not just the posh really. At least in the Netherlands you have lots of people wearing them. They are just practical. Both men and women. Maybe it has something to do with the Dutch particular love for the bicycle, since they are especially nice keeping most of your legs dry while cycling in the rain.
I still have my long black overcoat and I love it. Although people often told me I look like a priest, I don't really care. It's really warm. But the biggest annoying thing is that the coat sometimes get in the way when climbing stairs. I once almost tripped.
I have a dark grey wool overcoat that was passed down to me by my great grandfather who first got it in the 40s. I love it and wish that it was cold enough where I live to wear it regularly. On me it’s not a true overcoat because I am quite a bit taller than my great grandfather was but it still fits and works well.
i hate that hats, overcoats, ties and waistcoats are not worn by more people nowadays, it's such a neat piece of clothing. And when you do see them people mock them for what they wear, i'm kind of one of those people :,)
I wish it was still a thing too. Just not the style anymore.
@@fredleinweber2819 read what I wrote. Make it the style. Make it your own!
Read what I wrote. If my grandson can proudly do it here in the wild, wild west you can pull it off anywhere. Always look the weaker straight in their eyes and hold your head high!
I've never been mocked for my Shearling coat. Actually, I get treated better, even when I haven't shaved or done my hair at all. I have a theory that people have a 6th sense for how much wealth a person is wearing. I swear, I get treated better just for wearing expensive stuff, even though the primary purpose is function (in this case, dealing with the frigid weather).
Then again, the generation that wore Shearling is long gone, lol. Guess it's "so old it's cool again"?
Please do, it will encourage people like me.
I'm from Minnesota as well, and just received my first long coat to finish my first ensemble, very glad I did. The wife really appreciates it too!
Bro I didn't even know I needed this video.
Beige, light tan, Double Breasted, Belted Trench Coat, from London Fog, 1980's-1990's is my "Long Overcoat"!
You know, people often look down on office jobs nowadays, but I’m proud to work in an office, and this is one of the reasons why. Business environments are the few places left in the modern world where wearing formal wear is applauded, and I love it. I love wearing a suit, I love wearing long and heavy overcoats, I love sitting around with my coworkers, all with ties and polished shoes, laughing over coffee and tea and sharing hobby’s and interests. It’s a pleasant change from this crazy world out there. So yeah, they are still being worn, by the tens of thousands, but you gotta know where to look. No, you won’t find them on a train station or in a hospital, but go to any business park and you’re guaranteed to see men having an afternoon walk in long overcoats.
I agree. Suits are actually comfortable - and you only need to select a matching tie - not an entire ensemble every morning. I think the tie is what made people most uncomfortable. I'd settle for suits with an open collar and no tie.
They’re all over NYC. Because people walk and its cold. I’m a woman, I own 2 of them. One houndtooth, one black with gold buttons (my go too). It looks sharp.
As someone who likes wearing suits and ties but works a blue collar job, this is one thing that sometimes makes me wanna get a job that makes me dress nicer.
@@SamanthaIreneYTubeFor women i think they are pretty common, i don't see men wearing them that much though..
@@SamanthaIreneYTubeMost men don’t wear them.
The large coat trend still lives in women’s fashion but is completely dead in men’s fashion.
My Long overcoat story:
I live in Vietnam, and if you wear a black long overcoat here, you'll catch everyone's eye. I find it quite funny because a long overcoat in my opinion is a pretty basic wardrobe item, I got a lot of nicknames just because I wear a lot of black overcoat (overcoat is one of the items in my personal uniform) . Those nicknames include: - dark Lord - Japanese Mafia - lord of the dead, etc... Sometimes I even scare some people by wearing a long overcoat.
Vietnam huh
In Poland I had nearly same, I don't know why but on a west nobody care what you wearing.
@@dchm7470 tbf I see three people with blue hair on my daily comnute nothing can surprise me anymore
In Tokyo I had accused of robbery in the bookstore. Meanwhile, I just wore that and wanted to pay.
I'm on the opposite edge actually. I live closer towards the northern part if Russia, and when it's not summer, a man WITHOUT a long overcoat would become the center of attention. And most of the time, those coats are black.
After all, fashion is fashion, but no man would go as far as freezing his balls for the sake of it :)
I've always loved the look of black trench coats. They're just so stylish.
Very interesting video! Learned a lot.
One of the many reasons I love watching 80s movies, so many stylish overcoats!
Long overcoats are absolutely stylish. I have two, one thinner from Charles Tyrwhitt, and other a little thicker and longer just over the knee. I feel absolutely more dressed, so to speak, when I use overcoats instead of a a leather jacket.
Interestingly enough in China, there has been a rise in young people especially college students wearing old military style overcoats (军大衣）in winter since they are generally very inexpensive and is quite good at keeping people warm. What originally started as protests against rising puffer prices has now turned into a new fashion trend both online and in real life.
I have a French Air Force overcoat and it's quite practical.
It has the buttons set up for both men and women.
My grandpa has a lot of overcoats and he wear always like 50s, i saw him with admiration always so im wearing em casualy! Love overcoats
It’s a shame that dark overcoats are lowkey vilified. They look great!
They're not though. No idea where you live. Sounds like a place filled with people with poor taste. People like mine. Not that I care; I had to have it when I tried it on. Find that it really suits me.
I recently got a new overcoat for winter and found myself being quite envious of the amount of options women have for them as opposed to men
That's certainly true, especially when you look at how much variety there used to be in vintage fashion plates
buy a women's coat with shoulder pads and have the pads removed, it's literally the same thing
I remember back in high school I was taking a video class and my finale assignment was to a 'How To' video as a group project. We jokingly did 'How to be a hit man'. We filmed and edited it, and submitted it to the teacher. I'm on video wearing a black trench coat and a toy uzi...A week after submitting the video was the Columbine shooting...
I took the aside and told him about it just to be sure.
This randomly appeared in my feed and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It definitely reminded me of the all weather jacket they give you in the Marines, or the “Inspector Gadget” jacket. That was one of the first pieces of my uniform to magically “disappear.”
I recently bought my first vintage overcoat and it is very long compared to new modern ones. I love the aesthetic of the longer ones over the shorter ones which are too slim fit and short for my style.
Another reason overcoats seem to get shorter is because of the prevalence of taller men. I am 6'3, which used to be pretty tall years ago, but their are high school freshmen who match me now. When I got my first long peacoat, it was custom ordered from Old Navy of all places. Some stores have big & tall options, especially online for coats. Ironically, that peacoat was longer than my Navy issued peacoat when I joined in 2015.
They also issue you a standard service trench coat, which was definitely the longest coat I had for some time, but then I bought an officers WW1 great coat. Again, I'm a tall person, and this coat with boots on comes down to my ankles. And it is solid, heavyweight wool. I wear it during my longer commutes here in Chicago winters, and on that note, Chicago still has a lot of people wearing longish coats because thousands take the train daily to and from work, and walk on top of that. It's not uncommon to see peacoats, trench coats, overcoats, and top coats in a multitude of colors and lengths from both men and women. However, the vast majority of those coats almost border on being jackets with how they're cut, which defeats the purpose because these people are wearing suits or business professional clothing underneath.
But here in the bigger and colder cities, we still have a need for those styles of coats and I've been rocking them since 2011 and have no plans on stopping. Even if you don't wear a suit, simple layering business level clothing can fill out the space on those coats and make you look classic with it on, and modern with it off.
I still have my peacoat issued over 30yrs ago. My uniforms changed many time before I retired but the peacoat always stayed.
6' 3" is tall today !
@kfl611 I'd like to think so, and apparently only 14% of men are over 6ft, but I sure run into a lot of taller men, so now I think otherwise.
I actually get compliments for my overcoats, as they are of high quality and really dress up any outfit. I don’t wear hoodies with them, because that doesn’t look good and doesn’t feel nice. Usually pair it with grey jeans and a nice simple sweater.
The first overcoat I bought in an expensive shop in Haarlem has been with me for 15 years now. Still looks great, only had to dry clean it once plus replace some buttons. A great investment! Channels like this have made me buy more traditional clothing that just doesn’t go out of style.
Plus I buy quality, but generally try to do this during sale seasons. In January I buy new winter jackets and overcoats. Allowing me to get some great discounts, for example the first overcoat normal price was over 400 euros, but I got it for half.
I think your idea about cars is partly right. My personal issue with wearing a long coat (which I still like, even though I don't generally wear one) was getting into a car. The "fabric" that the seat of the newer cars is made of grabs the coat and either bunches it up at my back or it catches at my legs and won't slide when I sit down. I have ripped more than one seam on a long coat due to that issue. The solution of leather or other slicker coats are harder to come by for men, at least in my experience. By the way, I would like cloaks to come back 😁
I'm 18, and I love overcoats. They make me feel so confident. I wear them with both street and formal outfits, but I never wear a whole suit because it's too expensive to get a new one and I don't know how to get a good one. Maybe in the future. I hate people's lack of care about what they wear today. Even if they wear street styles more than formal ones, at least put some effort into it, don't just wear the same sweatpants/pajamas and worn out sweater every day. Even if someone is poor, they have options to buy 2nd hand.
compassion and empathy go a long way. it's nice you like to wear them, but when you judge others, or look down on someone else's dress it becomes problematic. not everyone shares your values.
It wasn't untill recent years people started wearing streat cause for the majority of human history the majority of people just wore a daily kinda wear
@@princegobi5992looking down on someone and merely stating your opinion is two different things.
@@lawfulbeneficiary1731 the opinion that people who don’t share his value system in terms of dress, are “worse” in an way is still looking down on someone
@@lawfulbeneficiary1731 I have an opinion that in the United States most republicans vote against their own def interest, that’s my opinion, I’m still looking down on them.
I love the way men *and* women used to dress. I wish I had a women’s London Fog trench coat circa 1975 like the one Faye Dunaway wore in Network or Joan Pringle’s in J.D.‘s Revenge. ❤
Love this video. Long overcoats aren't just practical for cold weather but look incredible when they fit well. Such an iconic look. Just watch American films set in New York etc all the way up to and through the 90s. Shame its died out a bit.
I have two over coats and I love wearing them with my suits along with my fedora hats. I love the old school classic look and when I wear them I have received a lot of compliments from people. 😊
I got a long black leather trench coat to keep warm in winter. I love it but hate getting looks from some people. We need to bring long coats back into style.
Agent Smith been givin you the eye?
I know exactly what you mean. People can be so strange at times.
@@sunofpeter2 They glow in the dark
Is it possible that you got it from your "argentinian" grandpa?
@@VVardaddy eBay
I love both my trench coat and my camel topcoat (trench in fall/spring, topcoat in winter). I also have a black overcoat in case I ever need to go to a funeral in winter.
Trench coats are good for places with milder winters. I had a great one and, unfortunately, the silverfish agreed!
I do not go thrifting, but I anyways keep an eye out in case I see a long overcoat at the store, but never do. I never considered asking my tailor if he also does coats. Thanks!
I wore my long coat just yesterday, they're still around.
Also came for the content and stayed for the puns!
I love my 3 London Fog trenchcoats, I've been wearing these since I was 21 I never cared what the current trend was. I get so many compliments from both men & women
Since I started wearing long overcoats, I never had to wait more than 5 seconds to cross the street and people say "hello" way more often. Now the colder days are coming here in Europe, can't wait to wear mine again. As you said, the less popular they are, the more second-hand options we have available. And I do have a great second-hand store near me. Now, do I start the season with my Loden, Canali, Hugo Boss, or Harris tweed? Choices, choices... :-)
I have a great 50s style grey trench coat I love, and recently a replica of civil war era wool overcoat, quickly became my favorite
Very well done content
Not me. I still wear long overcoats. Mason and Sons London. Nice, very nice. Not cheap, but beautifully made. You get what you pay for.
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Oh yeah almost forgot to say. Buy a Fedora from Herbert Johnson. Made to measure, super top quality, beautifully styled!
Very nice! Which model did you go for from Mason & Sons?
@@gentlemansgazette model of what? Hats? Suits? Or overcoats. Mason brothers make my suits and over coat. (James Bond kinda provenance) Johnson make all my Fedoras. Long over coat, nice suit, Fedora. I’m liking it. Then… I’m kinda old. LOL. 63. Guess lotta folk would say yeah, I’m old.
I LOVE THEM!
I really don’t care what someone might associate or think about them.
The only problem is they are not easy to find and when you found they are expensive.
Try ebay - it is astonishing how many good quality items are for sale there, many of them hardly used.
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Wow… THANK YOU!
I really appreciate that.
@@lets.go.brandon67827 ❤❤❤
You'd be amazed what you can pick up in sales, I bought a gorgeous overcoat in M&S reduced by 75% which worked out around £40.
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I am a Boomer and I lived the transition in my youth, during the 1960s. When the modern jacket or Parka, came to replace long overcoats I literally fell in loved with the new piece of garment and I couldn't wait to get rid of the old one. The only use I could see for long overcoats was to protect your legs during rain but for that we had umbrellas and raincoats so from a practical POV the long overcoat was useless anyway. There was the psychological aspect also. Parkas fitted my personality, i.e. they allowed my real identity, or what I wanted it to be, to come out. And cowboys in Hollywood movies were using them too. They made me feel young, daring and fresh, compared to the older guys who were stuck in their traditional long overcoats. And I never looked back.
I found I couldn't find a long overcoat I really liked. What I went with was mid-length overcoat. It is similar to a navy pea coat, but it's not. In addition to working as an overcoat with my suits, it pairs well with a large number of looks.
"Why Did Men Stop Wearing Long Overcoats?"
Because retail stopped selling and you have to see an actual tailor for any "coat" that is longer than a flight jacket.
Thankfully that is a feature that is currently coming back. I really had my troubles finding coats like that before.
No lie, one of the reasons I feel for my husband back almost 20 years ago is he would wear a trench coat, fedora, and carried a leather attaché case which he kept his GMing stuff in. He looked SO cool and dapper, oh my gosh. (Worth noting, yes I was a major goth chick in the 2000s so....yeah this video totally called me out, lol. XD)
This is an amazing video, very cool to learn all of this. My husband and I are old fashioned people and like the old fashioned things, especially fashion, but don't really know a lot of the nuance of it like you covered here.
(By the way, if anyone knows of a Gentleman's Gazette style channel for women I'd love a recommendation.)
My absolute favourite overcoat - of the last 50 years, is the Black Cotton Trenchcoat, complete with epaulets a belt doubled back across the back which went down to my knees. In the 1970s that was a mainstream overcoat, but you hardly ever see them now - more's the pity. Recently, as an old man I decided to lose some weight and reward myself with another one once I was a sensible shape - but there were none to be found except at grotesque 'conspicuous consumption' brand prices.
Uffda! Always nice to see another fellow minnesotan.
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Every video of the Gentleman’s Gazette is a well-documented classic.
The video title I was searching for
I really love those tall vests
I got SO lucky finding a beautiful navy overcoat my dad had sitting in his closet for years that miraculously fit me with a little light tailoring. I love the look of these coats but living in Houston I would never have bought one since it hardly ever gets cold (and no one is ever outside when it is cold)
This is true! I am from Korea and we do wear a lot of overcoats during colder seasons!
About 30 years ago in the Khumbu valley in winter I met a guy from Belfast heading up to Everest base camp (deserted, at that time of year) to spend the night there in his one-man tent. He was wearing a long, blue, woollen overcoat which he said was standard issue for postmen in Northern Ireland. He claimed it would keep him warm and handle anything the Himalayas could throw at him. He certainly cut a dash in it.
very informative video, thank you
I wore long coats constantly in the late nineties - up until Columbine. After that, I retired the long coats for a decade or more. But I kept them - and now, I love being able to wear just the right coat. I even got a second-hand oilskin duster to wear while cycling - keeps me warm, clean, and dry, but allows excess heat to vent with just a snap!