How WhatsApp Makes Money: The INSANE Story of WhatsApp

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  • How Does WhatsApp Make Money? - The INSANE Story of WhatsApp!
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    How Does WhatsApp REALLY Make Money?
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    00:36 2009 - The Birth of WhatsApp
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  • @MagnatesMedia
    @MagnatesMedia  Před 2 lety +972

    This is the first episode in a new series on this channel, "Crazy But True: Business Stories That Feel Like Movies". It tells the full story of WhatsApp, but framed around one key question: How Does WhatsApp REALLY Make Money? I hope you enjoy. 😁
    EDIT: Wow, thank you for all the comments & support! Just wanna address some concerns that I saw a couple of people ask:
    1. "Are you sponsored by Signal?" No. I am in no way affiliated with Signal whatsoever, and don't even have the app myself. There are lots of other alternatives to Signal, I only mentioned it because it seemed to have very positive perceptions in online privacy communities (plus it's part of the story, since it was created by the original WhatsApp founder).
    2. "Why are you advertising a VPN?" - A VPN is not some magic pill to all privacy issues, but personally I believe you're better to have a VPN (from a trusted provider) than not. But you don't necessarily NEED one; you can research it and decide for yourself. They didn't pay me to say anything (I just used an affiliate link in the description to an established VPN).
    3. "There's nothing wrong with Whatsapp" - Whatsapp IS a great service. If you go to the end of the video, you'll see that I do say MOST companies collect your data for all kinds of reasons. For many people, continuing to use WhatsApp is totally fine. Really, it comes down to how much you trust Facebook. Clearly the original founders don't, but I am not saying you need to delete Whatsapp. I just think its worth being aware of the story behind it all. I hope you enjoy!
    New videos like this coming soon!

    • @markkukeskioja
      @markkukeskioja Před 2 lety +9

      Incredible.

    • @burhankhaja746
      @burhankhaja746 Před 2 lety +10

      Nice video man

    • @indieshd
      @indieshd Před 2 lety +9

      Your job is great

    • @flyyygurll3427
      @flyyygurll3427 Před 2 lety +18

      I enjoyed everything about what I just watched; from the content, to the editing, sound. Great quality all around! Keep up the great work I'm newly subscribed and here for the long haul John!

    • @creativegamemaster6807
      @creativegamemaster6807 Před 2 lety +9

      I like the phrase frame around once one single question

  • @techrisemedia
    @techrisemedia Před 2 lety +4731

    "if you're not paying for the product you are the product" so true

    • @PuraMukura
      @PuraMukura Před 2 lety +123

      Nothing is free..Only Oxygen is free provided by God.

    • @csn6234
      @csn6234 Před 2 lety +100

      @@PuraMukura that's not true. I pay for every breath I take.

    • @conniethesconnie
      @conniethesconnie Před 2 lety +33

      I worked for a company which used WhatsApp for communication. It was how company memo's were handed down. Where schedules were posted. We were coerced into downloading the app and by proxy granting Facebook the ability to datamine.

    • @mariano7699
      @mariano7699 Před 2 lety +16

      @@PuraMukura : and who's God pantheon ?

    • @Lucas-zb2wg
      @Lucas-zb2wg Před 2 lety +16

      @@csn6234 go off grid, live in the woods. No one stops you.

  • @byazrov
    @byazrov Před 2 lety +4647

    It's an incredible talent to explain a whole 30-seconds concept in just 30 minutes.

    • @antoniong1449
      @antoniong1449 Před 2 lety +304

      😂🤣😂 You really made my day!

    • @mjmulenga3
      @mjmulenga3 Před 2 lety +356

      Why use three words when seventeen will suffice? 😂

    • @nakamura256
      @nakamura256 Před 2 lety +222

      And 10 minutes more just because of ads

    • @TeraGreene1
      @TeraGreene1 Před 2 lety +147

      You win the comments today 😂

    • @omp365
      @omp365 Před 2 lety +60

      can you spell nuance?

  • @BMoSuave
    @BMoSuave Před rokem +82

    I have watched so many of these documentaries today and I can't stop. These are so well produced and thorough, please don't stop making these!!

    • @picklesdjango1701
      @picklesdjango1701 Před 2 měsíci

      Vote Trump Or we are FINISHED

    • @picklesdjango1701
      @picklesdjango1701 Před 2 měsíci

      Vote TRUMP or we are Finished

    • @BMoSuave
      @BMoSuave Před 2 měsíci

      Aint gotta tell me twice 👌🏼​@picklesdjango3537

    • @spike8555
      @spike8555 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@picklesdjango1701 american politics 😂

  • @vickyzesu
    @vickyzesu Před 2 měsíci +8

    “If you are not paying for the product, YOU are the product.”
    Wow this was eye opening. As a content creator (TikTok, IG, CZcams) I have no choice but to not care about my privacy. I’m in too deep.

  • @davidespingel1223
    @davidespingel1223 Před 2 lety +2804

    Same people who are concerned with privacy have no issues having Alexa in their home.

    • @gfdia35
      @gfdia35 Před 2 lety +172

      Speak for yourself, I'll never er have an assistant...... Ever

    • @fredrik1337
      @fredrik1337 Před 2 lety +86

      Well ironically I made the switch to Signal when the news hit, but i still just assume that my chrome browser and android phone records the shit out of me and it is unstoppable unless you do the offgrid homestead thing...

    • @GunwantBhambra
      @GunwantBhambra Před 2 lety +35

      @@fredrik1337 lets all make private internet like cuba underground intranet

    • @PatrackMuyambo
      @PatrackMuyambo Před 2 lety +58

      Alexa will get confused in Africa 😂😂😂

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow Před 2 lety +2

      They do?

  • @zohrebrown
    @zohrebrown Před 2 lety +721

    It's not the moral question about sharing our own data - it's the immorality of WhatsApp collecting other people's data through my phone without my or their consent.
    This is what the EU data protection legislation was about.

    • @cjay2
      @cjay2 Před rokem +16

      They lied.

    • @asaiya705
      @asaiya705 Před rokem +67

      you most likely gave your consent in the agreement you most likely didn't read and accept

    • @Fingeroo
      @Fingeroo Před rokem +21

      @@asaiya705 Hypocrisy, you didn’t read what OP said.

    • @paullangton-rogers2390
      @paullangton-rogers2390 Před rokem +27

      True, and good point you make. The problem is the US doesn't have such stringent data protection privacy laws and regulaton over companies and orgs as we have in Europe which makes it totally illegal to collect and use peoples private data, unless you're transparent about that, registered and authorised to do it by the government, and crucially give people the right to see what data you're holding and using...and of course, the right to have your data deleted at any time.
      That seems to be lacking with big US tech firms, even though they're operating in the EU marketplace. Perhaps the EU need to address this issue and force big US tech firms to register for data handling and follow our data privacy laws.

    • @Tesla_Iive2023-
      @Tesla_Iive2023- Před rokem +25

      You made the consent when installing their app. Most people don't even take time read it.

  • @funocity-official
    @funocity-official Před rokem +240

    "protect privacy" is something near impossible in this era

    • @realabusivedad
      @realabusivedad Před rokem +3

      but linux is better

    • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
      @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked Před rokem

      :D The Pledge Of Allegiance only states "republic", and it's clear as day that so-called "voting" (puppet system) doesn't change a law. Too many dumb people calling America a democracy.

    • @funocity-official
      @funocity-official Před rokem

      @@realabusivedad the reason i modify ubuntu creating fence from attackers

    • @t-yoonit
      @t-yoonit Před rokem +12

      Yeah, these days it's not a matter of if your data will be harvested/stolen, it's when.

    • @imuwe
      @imuwe Před 11 měsíci +7

      You said it right: "near impossible". You can at least make it harder for them to invade 😉

  • @Bablojavan
    @Bablojavan Před 5 měsíci +25

    I love the storytelling, the script, the animations. But most all the narrator's pronunciation of words at the end of every sentence. I'm definitely subscribing and telling the world about this channel ❤❤

  • @wassup102
    @wassup102 Před 2 lety +679

    Absolute masterpiece brother🙂
    I'm out of words to explain how insane the editing and Storytelling is! It's crazy and I'm honoured to be one of your oldest subs.
    Love from India, Have a nice day John.

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  Před 2 lety +80

      Thank you for sticking with the channel so long man, it really does mean a lot. Have an awesome day brother!

    • @tavongaishemaunganidze5
      @tavongaishemaunganidze5 Před 2 lety +1

      Fa

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl Před rokem

      just that ists far from reality and truth.
      they care about privacy ?
      rofl, so how comes they had no encryption for ages?
      and now it is the biggest and deepest data grabber there is?`
      no, this is all nonsense.

    • @petermccavington8232
      @petermccavington8232 Před měsícem +1

      Paid response. There’s no way you like the video that much. It's an OK video. However the video doesn't provide any information that most people aren't aware of.

  • @euphoric8447
    @euphoric8447 Před 2 lety +181

    I never made comments about how underrated a channel but this will be my first. The video quality blew my mind and you kept me hooked till the end. I really do hope you get the recognition you deserves one day.

  • @raqeebaismail3557
    @raqeebaismail3557 Před 3 měsíci +5

    very true. my sister and i were speaking about a product which she didnt even search for but it came up as an advert on her social media. since then we were like ''is our phones listening to our convos as well''

    • @hey_kudisco_podcast
      @hey_kudisco_podcast Před měsícem +1

      Not only that. They know what you're typing. I've got targeted ads for things I wrote in my notes app even.

    • @BohemothWatts-vz1lc
      @BohemothWatts-vz1lc Před 2 dny

      Please research Nicky Hagar"s THE GLOBAL SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM. Even your heartbeat is being hacked.

  • @BeardedKenyan
    @BeardedKenyan Před rokem +32

    What annoys me is that there is no option to pay.
    I would gladly pay for a CZcams, Google or Facebook that does not collect my data but that simply does not exist.

    • @luisiglesias5248
      @luisiglesias5248 Před 2 měsíci +8

      They collect your data to predict your future decisions based on your past decisions and in order to influence your choice, not only commercially but political and socially

    • @tlhogid663
      @tlhogid663 Před 19 dny +2

      You cannot afford the present value of future profits they will earn from having you on the free version!

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před 17 dny

      They'd do it and still take your money.

    • @SiroMartini
      @SiroMartini Před 13 dny

      It does exist for Meta, at least in Europe.

  • @Anita95_original
    @Anita95_original Před 2 lety +260

    "free" is dangerous since you loose control. If you pay for something you can make demands about the product...

    • @joshuadickerson1902
      @joshuadickerson1902 Před 2 lety +3

      You can make demands with free. You just sounds like an ass when you do. But who cares but the person proposing free. They are still selling to you.

    • @johnappleseed6525
      @johnappleseed6525 Před 2 lety +10

      Thats wrong. Microsoft’s software is paid buy they still sell you and ur data. The only solution is to switch to freedom respecting software. The Free (as in Freedom) and Open Source Software is the solution. The Free Software foundation is the solution.

    • @liamburns8554
      @liamburns8554 Před 2 lety +5

      Hmm. Often not true in the modern age. I pay for LinkedIn, Microsoft outlook. No communication, customer service or any type of engagement. My whole depends on both of these and I can never have a conversation with them never mind demands

    • @sergicalcantara
      @sergicalcantara Před 2 lety +2

      @@liamburns8554 how does paying for LinkedIn benefit one if I may ask? As far as I know it’s for professionals to get contacted, or contact other people who work for other companies, etc. like a Facebook for résumés. So what do you actually pay for, and how is it beneficial?

    • @liamburns8554
      @liamburns8554 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sergicalcantaraRecruitment. Can't do recruitment in the modern age without it. There are various subscription plans

  • @JordanBrotherInJesus
    @JordanBrotherInJesus Před rokem +169

    You've made some very good videos here. Thanks for taking your time to do the research, editing, and overall scripting of this. Genuinely impressed!

  • @andrewdubois8653
    @andrewdubois8653 Před rokem +44

    Gotta say man, you and your team put together videos so well. So much thought, so many details that I wouldn't even doubt you missed any. Thank you for this, another push for me to delete my Facebook. Im a new subscriber but damn I wish I found your content sooner! Thank you
    Downloading Signal right now 🙌

    • @andrewdubois8653
      @andrewdubois8653 Před rokem +2

      Ps. I thought my sisters were crazy for fb collecting data on some of my other searches... turns out they were right cause I'm seeing the Prepac 64 shelf everywhere over Facebook and Instagram now.. anyways. Thank you, so much

    • @t-yoonit
      @t-yoonit Před rokem

      ​@@andrewdubois8653 it's not Facebook. It's Google's ad service. Google is collecting your data and using that information to target ads on any website that uses Google ad service.

  • @EdwinWade
    @EdwinWade Před rokem +12

    You’ve made really incredible videos and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed them. The amount of research you put into them is pretty incredible. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @RobertoBlake
    @RobertoBlake Před 2 lety +430

    I have a funny feeling this is going to get more views.

    • @libremercadoencrisiseconom2118
      @libremercadoencrisiseconom2118 Před 2 lety

      what's up checkmark?

    • @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679
      @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679 Před 2 lety +1

      why's that? the outage has already ended

    • @sandmann6851
      @sandmann6851 Před 2 lety

      @@thesupremeleaderofcorn8679 what do you mean by outage?

    • @KING-365
      @KING-365 Před 2 lety +1

      If the gold slinger, Roberto Blake, is here too, then I must be watching a really good video.🤛🏾😎 I have the same feeling as well.

    • @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679
      @thesupremeleaderofcorn8679 Před 2 lety +6

      @@sandmann6851 well Facebook had a massive server outage where NONE of its services worked; like Instagram, Messenger, or Facebook itself

  • @chrisbarry9345
    @chrisbarry9345 Před rokem +42

    The only problem I have with personalized ads is how careful you have to be about what you click on. I was curious about ONE unique product on Facebook now I'm hounded by things in the same category on CZcams which supposedly is not connected

    • @kehedID
      @kehedID Před 3 měsíci +1

      Do you use google keyboard or android phone by any chance?

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede Před 3 měsíci +1

      i do that keyboard is just too useful from built in translation and voice typing and other useful features @@kehedID

    • @Ned-bw5tt
      @Ned-bw5tt Před 3 měsíci

      @kahedid 😳

    • @WildHorizon
      @WildHorizon Před 2 měsíci

      My boyfriend and I have started to notice too how well say something and anywhere within the next few minutes to an hour or so- we’ll get bombarded with ads that day about the thing I talked about which is so strange.
      It’s kinda become a game to see how much we can point out.
      Anytime I talk about a Spanish coworker I get ads in Spanish, if I talk about a name brand thing I’ll get an ad for that thing, if I talk about my job when I get home from work I get not just dental ads- but specifically for the field I’m in. Or my boyfriend’s field. Or if we talk about going on a trip, for the next few days to weeks we’ll get ads about whole a** states and countries and it’s like wtf I didn’t even know they made an ad for Iowa, why tf does Iowa need an add.. (this one could be coincidental because of how common these ads are but, but we’ve started to notice every time we say “you hungry?” “I could eat” our normal responses.. if we’re on Hulu unless it just went on commercial it will go to commercial within 30 seconds and ALWAYS show a food restaurant. I mean literally without fail, we’ve started stopping after we ask that and stare at the TV and watch and count, it’s like a game that’s super terrifying in the back of your mind.)

    • @luisiglesias5248
      @luisiglesias5248 Před 2 měsíci

      And what about the political and social movements they want to promote? We all are classified and managed according to our ideologies and the social change they want to do...

  • @jedimindtrix2142
    @jedimindtrix2142 Před 9 měsíci +38

    When it comes to privacy I, as a 36 year old have really never known "true privacy" since I hit my early to mid 20s. When I was a kid in the mid to late 90s....privacy was still possible. However as my generation came of age and algorithms became king privacy started to become something that "used to be." I don't really see much of an issue here as a regular person. However if I were running a big enough business or if I was working on very secretive projects I certainly would want to be much more careful with my information. It all comes down to each individual what we deem acceptable for ourselves in terms of privacy and risk.

    • @v00n2000
      @v00n2000 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I have been using ad blockers for years, so never see any targeted advertisements that they fight so hard to give me.
      Heigh ho.

  • @walds
    @walds Před 5 měsíci +4

    Your videos are so well made! I'm watching quite a bit. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and studies and the hard work. Keep it up! Cheers from Brazil!

  • @gavinguitar2194
    @gavinguitar2194 Před rokem +138

    I have never used Facebook, Instagram. Have used Whats app recently. Will seriously consider using Signal in the future after watching this video. A fair & well presented overview of content, privacy & profiling. Looking forward to more on this subject from this channel.

    • @coldfilter
      @coldfilter Před rokem +6

      Obviously you use Google!

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Před rokem +4

      Yeah but what good this would actually do?
      In my country we use WhatsApp for absolutely everything, theres no way people would be able to switch to Signal, no matter how good or honest it is.
      The app is too useful is simple as that.

    • @alicelong3613
      @alicelong3613 Před rokem +7

      Signal isn’t clean

    • @Fred-zk3wv
      @Fred-zk3wv Před rokem +12

      @Sarah Nothing is clean in this world. It's a matter of which one is the lesser evil.

    • @The-Perfect1
      @The-Perfect1 Před rokem +3

      @@coldfilter and CZcams!

  • @h8rsbeware496
    @h8rsbeware496 Před 2 lety +389

    Ironic that we are watching this on the second biggest survallience network xD
    Nice video, I look foward to the future of you work.

    • @somedude0921
      @somedude0921 Před 2 lety +10

      CZcams isnt really a survallince network, google is

    • @RogerH_CxP
      @RogerH_CxP Před 2 lety +56

      @@somedude0921 and CZcams is part of Google, so what you mean?

    • @joesr31
      @joesr31 Před 2 lety +13

      @@somedude0921 google owns youtube sooo...

    • @learnmore9657
      @learnmore9657 Před 2 lety +2

      And we like it ❤️

    • @shabbyofficial_
      @shabbyofficial_ Před 2 lety +12

      @@RogerH_CxP he ain't reply to that u got his ass 😂

  • @itsinc4596
    @itsinc4596 Před rokem +5

    My life is very uninteresting, I got nothing to hide

  • @lisaschuster686
    @lisaschuster686 Před rokem +2

    I’ve never used FaceBook, and everyone thinks I’m dead. It’s wonderful.

  • @shamrozanjum
    @shamrozanjum Před 2 lety +28

    Very well said "If yo are not paying for the Product, You are the product"

  • @faustinoelia965
    @faustinoelia965 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I really love this channel just like James Jani ,they are long and very entertaining where you just keep watching and don't even realise the video is over.keep the great work bro ,more blessings to you

  • @spiritfilled2589
    @spiritfilled2589 Před rokem +1

    Totally glad I subscribed!! Thank you so much for your research and information for the good of humanity. Things we never would have given thought of

  • @TonyTCTN
    @TonyTCTN Před 2 lety +856

    holy crap what a video
    eye opening
    thanks for creating this

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  Před 2 lety +29

      Wow - thanks for the support man!

    • @temptemp217
      @temptemp217 Před 2 lety +13

      @@voxfox01 I meeaan, collecting data just for the sake of improving advertising doesn't sound too bad. But what happens when a person becomes the goverment's enemy?..

    • @tristantriscuit9146
      @tristantriscuit9146 Před 2 lety +2

      Same thank you

    • @malnir643
      @malnir643 Před 2 lety

      Don't tell me you didn't know this

    • @AnalogDude_
      @AnalogDude_ Před 2 lety +1

      someone on CZcams said, that in his school at the time of startup they where handing out pamphlets to join Facebook.
      Facebook inc = fishy. there is something not right here. but hard to proof.

  • @trueriver1950
    @trueriver1950 Před 2 lety +307

    If Zuckerburg believed his business was ethical he would be much much more forthcoming about what he does

    • @FranzAllanSee
      @FranzAllanSee Před 2 lety +13

      He was never about being ethical though

    • @aol860
      @aol860 Před 2 lety +7

      Seriously..how did Zuckerberg get Facebook again, Integrity may allude FB dictionary 🙄

    • @inbetween8210
      @inbetween8210 Před 2 lety +15

      Not a single person would've made it to the top by being ethical, seriously, by quashing facebook, there will be more ruthless persons to fill that place, it's our evil system, driven by greed, enabling that kind of people to thrieve, and even if someone is starting by being ethical, they'll soon be forced to be ruthless just to survive.

    • @aol860
      @aol860 Před 2 lety +6

      @@inbetween8210 lol are you Zuckerburg...he doesn't have an original idea in his head he is what is commonly know as a opportunist...riding on the back of others...pathetic really 🤣 😉

    • @inbetween8210
      @inbetween8210 Před 2 lety +9

      @@aol860 and so did Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, or even your idol that Elon boii, trust me it's not the ideas that matters, it's how you could ruthlessly executed them to fruition.

  • @alexludwig9099
    @alexludwig9099 Před rokem +13

    I think the main controversy with selling data is WHAT data theyre selling. If I am just an anonymous person and all theyre doing is saying to companies "we will advertise to people in this age range with this income level in these parts of the world" then I dont see the harm in them having my data. In fact it caters to me because it helps me find things I may actually be interested in buying. But, if facebook starts selling truly personal data outside of demographics, like my name, email, phone number, etc etc then theyve gone too far. I should be a member of a target audience for advertising, not a product for them to sell.

    • @lone982
      @lone982 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Just assume they are selling more than they tell you...basically everything

    • @fairyprincess911
      @fairyprincess911 Před 6 měsíci

      We have always been the product whether to market to in order to entice to buy or, now, as consumable goods we have become since our metrics are being bought and sold. We are slaves at the market and most don’t realize…🥸

  • @grinch7074
    @grinch7074 Před rokem +24

    The question that WE ALL need to be asking is, " If I'm the product, then where is MY compensation?!?! " Facebook, what's App, and all the others need to PAY UP!

    • @theBGCsatire
      @theBGCsatire Před rokem +6

      It will never happen as long as so many people volunteer to be the product for free

    • @Scion141
      @Scion141 Před rokem +6

      Pay what? You get to use their app for free.

    • @aweoak7763
      @aweoak7763 Před 7 měsíci

      Many PPL believe that anything "free" is good. It's so engrained in the psyche that they don't see their own value -except being a cog in a wheel.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi Před měsícem

      @@Scion141 but it's not even, that's like paying 100k for a 20 year old used Hyundai

  • @yeladim10
    @yeladim10 Před 2 lety +25

    Ends video - "more videos like this - absolutely free". Aha - so this means that we are the PRODUCT of this channel.

    • @s1d3k1ckRO
      @s1d3k1ckRO Před 2 lety +3

      Well I had a couple of ads during the video.

  • @yokai_G
    @yokai_G Před 3 hodinami

    Absolutely in love with this channel 😍. Great material, presentation, quality work 😍 🎉

  • @slimyelow
    @slimyelow Před 7 měsíci +30

    I have been using the internet since 1995 and I am sure my stupid data is all over the place. In 2023, has this in any way shape of form changed anything for me? The answer is absolutely fooking no.

    • @gussampson5029
      @gussampson5029 Před měsícem +9

      Yeah but what they're really doing is making lists of who will be a compliant slave and who is willing to fight tyranny. That way they can purge all of the fighters in the first 72 hours and hunt down the few remaining ones while the compliant slaves just look on stunned and fearful. That's by far the most useful application of user data to those who desire money, power and control.

    • @herewegoagain7135
      @herewegoagain7135 Před 20 dny

      Paranoid?​@@gussampson5029

  • @TheComputec
    @TheComputec Před rokem +336

    I think the only thing that would teach the monopoly tech giants a massive lesson and allow people to take control again would be if there was a co-ordinated switch off by users around the world. I mean a universal account cancellation for a whole year... But it will never happen. Most people are oblivious to the peril of big data and how it guides and shapes consumer decisions and opinions... They just love the ease and convenience and connectivity and don't care enough

    • @Imissthefuhrer
      @Imissthefuhrer Před rokem +34

      Yeah, even the ancient romans knew all you have to do is give the masses bread and circus, and they will never revolt.

    • @pauls3204
      @pauls3204 Před rokem +2

      You don’t live all around the world
      People the planet over use this service as it is more or less free , all they need is a hotspot

    • @user-tx8un4is9l
      @user-tx8un4is9l Před rokem +6

      Actually in my country we don't even have services that allow you to pay by the internet, we solely depend on free apps and it is has huge impact on our communities, so that would never happen because we don't have substitutes.

    • @TheComputec
      @TheComputec Před rokem +8

      @@user-tx8un4is9lWhat did people do before the internet?

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Před rokem +11

      Buddy don't be childish, you won't be able to convince even 10% of users, people know that facebook is evil, but they don't have a choice, i can switch to Signal right now but what good this would do? I would be alone without no one to talk about, or anything to do, you guys need to be realistic and face the problem here.
      Billions of people use WhatsApp daily for everything, even to pay their bill the system simply is too useful and too valuable to be switched.
      Also what platform would be used to propagate Signal or other platform? Even to this people use WhatsApp.
      Truth is the only way to make a full switch you need to stop the whole system for at least a weak, im talking about basically blow up all servers used by Facebook, possibly even some satellites a supercomputers.
      Or then wait for Suckerborg make a mistake like add ad's directly into the chat, this would at some point get so annoying that people would definitely switch to other platforms.

  • @CDGMR1
    @CDGMR1 Před 2 lety +40

    Most start with “good intentions”. Once money start coming in, morals goes out the window.

    • @haggai3.477
      @haggai3.477 Před rokem +2

      Sadly, the contents of A Man's Heart are HIS MOTIVES & MOTIVES ARE WHAT DRIVE ACTIONS.

  • @MrStrictlykush
    @MrStrictlykush Před 7 měsíci +1

    You make the most awesome videos. I started watching you the past few days that I started to skip forensic files I like how you get all your research done and make it very interesting to learn about. I can’t wait to see more videos.

  • @teresakestran3637
    @teresakestran3637 Před rokem +1

    Great video… well done! Thank you for increasing awareness.❤

  • @NicholasGuccione
    @NicholasGuccione Před 2 lety +11

    Data collection for advertising is secondary. The real investors to Facebook and other platforms, are Government agencies like the NSA, DOD, CIA, FBI and Homeland Security. Guaranteed.

  • @tinodamatewe6400
    @tinodamatewe6400 Před 2 lety +336

    😁😁😁 funny how you ended this video with, "This channel has lots more videos you can watch totally FREE"... If you are not paying for the product, you are the product

    • @Harith5
      @Harith5 Před 2 lety +8

      Damn! 😂 😱

    • @sammy_dee
      @sammy_dee Před 2 lety +4

      You are paying with watching ads... its not totally free as the video was talking about Whatsapp... you need to use ur brain before opening ur mouth my dumb friend

    • @gavintantleff
      @gavintantleff Před 2 lety +15

      @@sammy_dee 1) they were making a joke
      2) stop being such an asshole bro “my dumb friend” even if you’re right you just come off so rude

    • @shayforever2688
      @shayforever2688 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sammy_dee go sit down somewhere

    • @swaytannic1179
      @swaytannic1179 Před 2 lety +1

      Tiri kushandiswa

  • @nickrobinson938
    @nickrobinson938 Před rokem

    Quality content in every single video. I am so amazed at how much knowledge you are turning out. Things that are shaping the world, but most importantly, our lives. Thanks for posting.

  • @Element4ry
    @Element4ry Před rokem +17

    It's double edged sword. Compromised privacy perhaps does help people to stay in contact, run businesses, do whatever they are doing, even perhaps it may help to catch some criminals and bad guys in some extreme cases - but it also allows for control over masses in the grand scheme of things. At this point it's moral conundrum whatever it's ultimately a good or bad thing to have. But still the main point is, that everyone should decide for themselves if they want that. It is great to have and watch such movie, as well as other ones on this channel, great work!

  • @sleepywolf1533
    @sleepywolf1533 Před 2 lety +995

    Insane. You'll blow up soon. Keep at it!

    • @lequidsnake
      @lequidsnake Před 2 lety +17

      I’ll just like it for the editing. Story is good whether it’s entirety true or not.

    • @sleepywolf1533
      @sleepywolf1533 Před 2 lety +8

      @@rafaellima381 You good? You probably wasted more time writing this comment lmao

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  Před 2 lety +20

      Wow thanks for the support Sleepy Wolf - great channel yourself!

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  Před 2 lety +24

      @Rafael Lima - with this channel I'm not really trying to just answer questions, I'm also trying to tell stories and make mini-documentaries. This video is the story of Whatsapp - the question of how they make money is just one (key) part of that. So if you are only looking for short simple answers, this is probably not the right channel for you. But I do think it's very unfair to say that the whole thing can be summarised as 'whatsapp doesn't make money' - that's really not true at all. Its certainly more complex than that.

    • @MagnatesMedia
      @MagnatesMedia  Před 2 lety +13

      Wise words - thanks man!

  • @PaulMarcX
    @PaulMarcX Před 2 lety +49

    I love this. So accurate on many levels, interesting and captivating to tech savvy and regular users, even though some tiny technical discrepancies.

  • @sirensignalmedia
    @sirensignalmedia Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great information and as an experienced editor, you truly did it a amazing job. Much respect for this great work.❤❤❤keep up the good work!

  • @williamxchau
    @williamxchau Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great Video! Informative and riveting and also very possibly, life changing.

  • @landonlee9615
    @landonlee9615 Před 2 lety +36

    Banger after banger! Taking inspiration from you every time you upload. Seriously, Excellent work and even better editing

  • @senpaiii55
    @senpaiii55 Před 2 lety +9

    I found your page only about 20mins ago, and I'm already in love with your content. A true eye opening video with brilliant presentation, keep the gear up man! 👏

  • @juliemccabe6061
    @juliemccabe6061 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video, I'm really enjoying your channel. I love the text graphics in this one too.

  • @charlenejulius8501
    @charlenejulius8501 Před měsícem +1

    My hubby calls it WhatsUP😅i thought he was joking, but he really thinks it's called WhatsUP. Oh my golly wolly😅

  • @Girry_
    @Girry_ Před 2 lety +10

    So much smartness, creativity and skill in creating this video. It's crazy. Whoever did this deserves everything.

  • @undergroundo
    @undergroundo Před 2 lety +4

    Things that have not happened in the 20 years or so of me using the internet:
    1. Me worrying about my "data" being used (other than my passwords).
    2. Me clicking on a single ad.
    3. Me getting into any trouble.
    Still, not a week goes by without me hearing the vague and unconcrete warning: "If you give your data away... WHO KNOWS what they can do with it....". I know EXACTLY what they can do with ti: Show me personalized ads. Which I don't click on.

    • @v00n2000
      @v00n2000 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Use a good blocker and never see another ad again.

    • @GBPaddling
      @GBPaddling Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, none of it matters........right up until the moment it DOES matter, and then it will be way too late. Find out what the 'Digital Prison' is. Did you learn the lessons of the PayPal/Canadian Truckers scandal?

    • @undergroundo
      @undergroundo Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@GBPaddlingwhat was that scandal about?

  • @kizz.Commented
    @kizz.Commented Před 3 měsíci

    A well made Documentary Magnates, well done, you have another Subscriber. Thumbed.😁

  • @kggangsta
    @kggangsta Před rokem +2

    I'm amazed at how your editing matches the videoclips with audio

  • @nexx410
    @nexx410 Před 2 lety +347

    It's hard to get others to switch from whats app to something else. I don't necessarily think using data is bad but we can make a contious choice to not give one company all the power.

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Před 2 lety +6

      I use Tee
      Logramos and Signal I asked my clients and friends to chance over and they have. Sadly people still keep WhatsApp on their devices.

    • @venomous_zxs5493
      @venomous_zxs5493 Před rokem

      @@chilesauce7248 what clients?

    • @venomous_zxs5493
      @venomous_zxs5493 Před rokem

      @@chilesauce7248 ur crazy

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 Před rokem +5

      @@chilesauce7248 ofc they do. because most people use it and you dont have a choice. if you wanna reach them. even people that dont use any social media have wp. and what is the alternative SMS? (cringe) or even worse a sudden call?

    • @chilesauce7248
      @chilesauce7248 Před rokem +4

      @@lucaskp16 Ya don't know much, there are several alternatives, I use two of them. And so do many people, in fact in some countries Telegram is more popular than wasapp, and Signal is widely used.

  • @AhmedAli88
    @AhmedAli88 Před 2 lety +63

    Really happy to see your channel taking off more in the past few months.
    I'm almost certain if you keep up the great work your channel will blowup faster than you expect! 😁 Keep up the great work!

  • @gerardfoley9619
    @gerardfoley9619 Před rokem +5

    People will give away their privacy if it's FREE....

  • @laurahennessy2893
    @laurahennessy2893 Před rokem +3

    Zuckerberg likes to do what he wants then just apologize.

  • @hishamhilal8332
    @hishamhilal8332 Před 2 lety +6

    Simply amazing content. I have been subscribed for reletavily a short time but I gotta say it hurts to see that your videos don't get as many views as they should. Very underrated.

  • @Eliphas_Leary
    @Eliphas_Leary Před 2 lety +40

    "There ain't no such thing as a free meal." Keep that in mind when using non-open-source "freeware". And of course whenever a websites asks if you want a cookie.

    • @militarytoy3563
      @militarytoy3563 Před 2 lety +5

      Don't eat that fucking cookie! It's poisoned! dont fucking eat it man!!

    • @militarytoy3563
      @militarytoy3563 Před 2 lety +4

      Listen, dude... It's not worth it. Just don't eat that fucking cookie!!!!!!

    • @militarytoy3563
      @militarytoy3563 Před 2 lety +2

      Look man, I know it's been a week since my last comments. But please, don't eat that cookie.. It's not even delicious. So what's the fucking point

    • @conrado.
      @conrado. Před 2 lety

      @@militarytoy3563 you are funny.

  • @djpete2009
    @djpete2009 Před 5 měsíci

    Insane!!! Brilliant stuff, well done.

  • @user-fr5pd4ny3p
    @user-fr5pd4ny3p Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome Explanation and definitely a Eye opening documentary. Thank you so much for sharing all this info!!

  • @florissol
    @florissol Před 2 lety +52

    I haven't spotted any misinformation in here, which really makes my day. The quality of this video is incredible and I love that you included the part at the end to show the positive side of personalized advertisements.

    • @johnboylan3832
      @johnboylan3832 Před rokem

      'Misinformation' lol.

    • @chatryna
      @chatryna Před rokem

      lol

    • @florissol
      @florissol Před rokem +3

      @@johnboylan3832 These types of videos often have loads of misinformation and offer only one perspective on a certain situation.

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem

      @@florissol that’s not the word to use, it’s disinformation. Intentionally spreading only one side of the story is almost exclusively the intent. You don’t intentionally make a short documentary and miss half the story.

  • @alok.01
    @alok.01 Před 2 lety +77

    Just implement a feature to chat cross platform, just like how email works. I recently heard the EU is planning to impose that rule and I hope it does and everyone follows. There might be drawbacks (maybe) but it would make switching much easier

    • @lopwidth7343
      @lopwidth7343 Před rokem +3

      Back when MSN messenger was defacto, it was actually proposed to do the same, and the XMPP was born

    • @SeCluDred
      @SeCluDred Před rokem +2

      But how may that help? First person using whatsapp, second signal... and still data (based on messages) could be collecting by whatsapp.

  • @terryhall818
    @terryhall818 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video thanks for making👍

  • @CC-qg6zl
    @CC-qg6zl Před 6 měsíci

    I had Signal...
    Just downloaded the app again.
    God bless this good hearted , ethical man.
    Thank you Mr. ACTON.
    UTTER RESPECT TO YOU.

  • @HeadandShouldersATR
    @HeadandShouldersATR Před 2 lety +32

    No one talks about Google, as we all use the former "Don't Be Evil" company 🤣🤣😵

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Před 2 lety +5

      They sure dropped that motto when the money started rolling in, eh?

    • @Showmetheevidence-
      @Showmetheevidence- Před 2 lety +3

      Yep I’ve been saying this lately… “don’t be evil” seems to have vanished some time ago

    • @johannesuhlenbroch8573
      @johannesuhlenbroch8573 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Showmetheevidence- their New quote is: "Do the right thing", but for whom? the investors? the customers? the employees?

  • @WannaComment2
    @WannaComment2 Před rokem +153

    I'm surprised he was even allowed to make Signal at all. Usually, when you make a sale like this, the contract includes a non-competition clause that makes it illegal for you to just turn around and use the money to make a new identical business.

    • @koreano3750
      @koreano3750 Před rokem +23

      I guess they knew Signal would never be a threatening competition

    • @lopwidth7343
      @lopwidth7343 Před rokem +11

      Im thinking it's a marketing ploy to fool the likes of EU should they ever end up on monopoly charges again

    • @quekumber
      @quekumber Před rokem +1

      Signal was allowed to rise. It was compromised by the US government

    •  Před rokem +7

      maybe it doesn't apply to non-profits...

    • @efxnews4776
      @efxnews4776 Před rokem +3

      Non profitable...

  • @classicist17
    @classicist17 Před rokem +5

    "Dumb fucks" 😂 took me out

  • @maanviss3840
    @maanviss3840 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Not just Whatsup but 'NEVER trust or put your privacy data' on Social Media .... 😮

  • @sushobhan9210
    @sushobhan9210 Před 2 lety +16

    you should have your own video platform. Damn good writing, editing, music, everything.

  • @dhgerber67
    @dhgerber67 Před rokem +20

    Fantastic explanation. Should be translated to many languages ! I switched to signal some years ago, and convinced all my relatives to do so. Thank's sir !

  • @Lambert7785
    @Lambert7785 Před 4 měsíci

    excellent reporting, thanks so much :)

  • @nyakwetv
    @nyakwetv Před 6 měsíci

    My first video to watch on this channel, incredibly good that had to watch another 3 ❤

  • @Jopacob
    @Jopacob Před 2 lety +26

    Well done, well explained without TOO much melodrama and catastrphisation. Subbed

  • @dilanjamanorathna3605
    @dilanjamanorathna3605 Před 2 lety +7

    Just 350 thousand views for such an well made documentary...? This might be the most underrated video ever...

  • @jessy1982
    @jessy1982 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Can we get a part two of this please?
    Interesting how you mention adding ads to the Status section, when recently the section was renamed to "Updates" and added Channels, which has many business and celebs.

  • @melvindwayne
    @melvindwayne Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent video and great storytelling... You'll be huge, a lot of growth awaits you... keep it up.

  • @cypresslounge
    @cypresslounge Před 2 lety +10

    In Mexico, a lot of local mobile data plans are “pay as you go”. Facebook , WhatsApp, instagram doesn’t go against you data. In a depressed economy, people will use what is free. It’s easy to buy the smallest possible data plan and mostly use these services that don’t use that data. It helps people out in a way, but it’s also a little evil.

  • @paipai9545
    @paipai9545 Před rokem +6

    I agree on the last part. In South Africa today, if you work & have just one account (clothing or credit card), you get about 7 call per business day selling you loans & credit cards😩 & it has gotten worse after covid pandemic!!!

  • @verenalai7668
    @verenalai7668 Před měsícem

    I'm v impressed by the way u present the contents. Thk u for sharing 😊😊😊

  • @iancasey1486
    @iancasey1486 Před rokem +1

    The same thing happens with Google and Amazon..
    I'm shopping on Amazon, I get started getting tailored ads about these same products choices.

  • @bren3155
    @bren3155 Před 2 lety +5

    Its mind boggling to me how many people I guess have simply forgotten that there phone is also a ... phone... remember text messages and phone calls?

  • @fuzzypanda1684
    @fuzzypanda1684 Před rokem +6

    Imagine starting an app with some friends and selling it for $19 billion. I can't even get a single callback for every 100 job applications I fill out. Luck seems to be concentrated in the hands of so very few.

    • @M335h1
      @M335h1 Před 3 měsíci

      😅 Look into how rooster teeth started in 2000 and where its at today.

  • @med6399
    @med6399 Před 3 měsíci

    Well presented!🎖🎖🎖Thank you!😎😎😎

  • @danielford2424
    @danielford2424 Před 4 měsíci

    Outstanding video. Thank you.

  • @Harshnaren007
    @Harshnaren007 Před 2 lety +38

    WhatsApp will always be used because it’s the impact it created, people can’t go back once something better comes

    • @qpSubZeroqp
      @qpSubZeroqp Před 2 lety +7

      It's also because a lot of people have it and having to download ANOTHER application just to use for one specific person isn't something people want to do

    • @33Jenesis
      @33Jenesis Před 2 lety +2

      @@qpSubZeroqp true that. I use LINE, which is popular in Asia. One of my best friends will not use LINE like the rest of our friend group. I won’t download WhatsApp after being asked by acquaintances who use it. I don’t want another texting app for people not family or close friends.

    • @qpSubZeroqp
      @qpSubZeroqp Před 2 lety +2

      @@33Jenesis I agree with your reasoning

    • @loveisthething
      @loveisthething Před 2 lety

      I'm without it for a year now. You don't miss a thing. Everybody can reach me through SMS or signal.

  • @RPAChampion
    @RPAChampion Před 2 lety +5

    This was the most helpful video I could find. A nice long-ish video just explaining everything I have looked for, this is really gonna help me fir starting my streams' :)

  • @andyb6120
    @andyb6120 Před měsícem

    This Video was very well researched & presented . Well done.

  • @raqeebaismail3557
    @raqeebaismail3557 Před 3 měsíci

    i can not stop watching your videos!!! i am hooked

  • @starlet5350
    @starlet5350 Před 2 lety +11

    Funny how I deleted my WhatsApp account and uninstalled the app recently. I know my data is probably still in their database but really I want to be more data conscious now.
    John you're psychic! 💛

    • @readbeforeyoureply64
      @readbeforeyoureply64 Před 2 lety +1

      Kinda pointless when you have a smartphone, use CZcams, Google and so on lol

  • @imranhassan8842
    @imranhassan8842 Před 2 lety +50

    Has it occurred to anyone that this whole video was an ad for Signal?
    It was an entertaining and quite factual video though.

    • @samsung2699
      @samsung2699 Před 2 lety +5

      Could be but whatsapp is not the whatsapp I agreed to use anymore ive been looking at alternatives, now I may look into signal

    • @michalgalik9955
      @michalgalik9955 Před 2 lety +1

      If it wasn’t paid by signal then it was a missed opportunity for the channel.

    • @johannesuhlenbroch8573
      @johannesuhlenbroch8573 Před 2 lety +3

      Signal is the best messaging app, when looking at your data security.

    • @imranhassan8842
      @imranhassan8842 Před 2 lety

      @@johannesuhlenbroch8573 agree

    • @scotti3gt
      @scotti3gt Před 2 lety

      I actually thought the video was quite neutral (and really well made). Let’s see how Signal goes with their business model.

  • @northitsera8600
    @northitsera8600 Před rokem +2

    How did we go from advertising every 25 minutes to every 1.5 mins

  • @madhukuntawala1241
    @madhukuntawala1241 Před 10 měsíci

    Wow! Thank you for opening our eyes!

  • @nozge7091
    @nozge7091 Před rokem +20

    Im still wondering how they let such accurate and informative information be public.

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 Před rokem +3

      Because it doesn’t matter. Despite being in the age with the easiest access to knowing basically whatever you want people just don’t care to actually know or if they do don’t know how to actually find the information they actually want.

  • @basantkandulna7459
    @basantkandulna7459 Před 2 lety +8

    What an awesome documentary,💫
    Thnx for for this video man🙌
    Truly appreciate your hardwork and dedication
    Keep uploading such videos man🔥🔥🔥

  • @1wretchedsoul
    @1wretchedsoul Před rokem +1

    This is observational, but educated….. I worked at the NSA while I was in the Army and since I left I’ve been a truck owner/operator. In the last 2 years I’ve picked up from and delivered to 2 separate Facebook “installations” that were both under construction. Both were barely concrete walls & dirt but the security was well above what we had at the NSA….. let that sink in.

  • @LloydsofRochester
    @LloydsofRochester Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you. This was very useful to know.

  • @mrharry8466
    @mrharry8466 Před 2 lety +32

    You've done a very good job at making this report.
    First class, shocking information.
    Dont like where this world is going....greed is ruining, killing things that are precious to our lives and that we take for granted.