5 Reasons I HATE My Z900
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- In this video we will discuss some glaring opportunities with the Z900 (spoiler alert) I actually LOVE this bike!
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0:00 Intro
0:40 Seat
1:27 Hard 1st to 2nd shifts
1:58 Mirrors
2:55 Rideolegy App
3:47 WINDY AF
4:28 BONUS
5:00 Outro
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2020 Suzuki DRZ400SM
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2020 Kawasaki Z900 - Sold :(
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Confirm, seat is hard and was the first thing I modified - if I don’t feel comfortable I won’t ride it. I took it to a motorbike seat upholsterer.
Confirm, gearing is hard to get smooth on this bike but is definitely possible. I have no slipping or false neutrals with mine. 2020.
I have never had a problem with the mirrors. No vibration and they certainly don’t move. Hmmm.
I don’t use the app as I never saw the purpose.
Confirm, you do get a lot of wind on you. However this why I bought the bike, I want to be in the wind. When purchasing this bike definitely get a quiet helmet.
Great video, I thought I should comment in the hope of helping others.
I agree with 4 things brow! The miss shift is annoying I hit flat zones in between gears once in a while...The sound is sick, just need the right pipe and full system the way to go!
Definitely misses on shifting into 2nd, not often but it happens. I found in the 10 months of owning mine it took a lot of after market add ons & an ecu flash n tune on the dyno to really wake her up. I actually ordered a full exhaust why I was at the dealership signing paperwork because I hated the sound that much but loved the look 😂
The look of this bike is amazing! I'm a little sad I sold it but on to bigger and better things! :) I wish it had a quick shifter for sure, I think that would have helped and YES a full exhaust on these bikes make it SCREAM!
Yup the misshifts are real it's weird it's exactly like you said I have a 2018 its the same feeling
Have you figured out the shift issues? I've heard the clutch springs could be the culprit. If you swap out the bar ends for problot, you can put nice bar end mirror's.
Actually sold this bike and on to the next one! Also no never could figure it out. Lots of people seem to have a similar issue though. Yea I figured on the bars but didn’t have time to switch them out 😑🤷🏻
You sure your chain tension is correct? Can make a difference with the gear shift
Check out Rhinomoto bar ends that allow the proper installation of bar end mirrors
I have a z650 and it has all the same problems. But I added a sml wind screen and helped tremendously... fun for in town and back roads but not highways or long rides
About the missing shifts. it really helped, when I changed the oil in the transmission.
Very well could be that! I don’t have that bike anymore but it seems it’s a pretty common problem.
Im looking for a first bike and im in a 2 fight between the z900 or the versys 650
As soon as I got mine before I even left the dealership I had a full Akra exhaust & tst fender eliminator on order for overnight delivery lol
Hahaha epic! I’m the same way with mods! Thanks for watching!
I have the same shifting problems with my z900. Looked in to a blip shifter. Can’t be done on the z900
It's weird a lot of people said they don't have it or haven't heard about it. But sounds like you do as well. There are some good callouts in the comments here. Lots of people said clutch springs....
😂😂😂 you ain't never lie!! I think everyone that has this bike goes through that 1 to 2 miss ..I thought it was me not shifting right...and now that mention it .I know I'm not alone
Highsider has replacement bar ends and there are of options. You need to look for M8 bar ends replacements
Miss shifts is definitely a thing. I find it is mostly when I am really gunning it and for me it is usually 5th or 6th. Great video though! 2017 z900 is my baby
I had a scare running quick one night. Standard country highway, 4 way stop. was gunnin it out of the intersection 110 120 130, slight let off, shift 5 to 6, VROOOOOMMMMM... WTF.... I hit neutral at 135mph??? nah that shit found the void between 5 and 6... jesus.. (oh i kicked it into 6th round 90 and it didnt sound great. odo was ~500 mile at the time)
I have a 2021 model, and I’m looking for a new seat before I take it on a big Multi day ride across the country. I haven’t had any missed shifts, but I occasionally miss neutral when I’m stopped. Other than that, it’s been a great bike And I plan on keeping it for a while.
Don’t get me wrong it’s a great bike and I wish I still had it! The issues are so few and far between. The shift thing from what I hear is a pretty common issue. Glad you dodged that one!
Have a same model, no missed shifts as well. Also mirrors do not move, but you do not see very well with them.
The seat is pretty uncomfortable, I rode mine (2020 Z900) from MA to NC at the tail of the dragon, I hated life during the trip lol, my mirrors never gave me issues, the miss shifts do happen once in a while, good vid 🤙🏼
I have actually sold the bike since this video but yea, a gel seat for sure would be game changer. Thanks for watching man!
Rhino Moto Bar end adapters and CRG arrow mirrors. So easy to install and look and work great. CRG mirrors are not cheap at $119 each though. Ive got a 2020 z900 ABS. Seat is a rock and have been looking to get it re-padded and upholstered though. Bought the Toce Performance full exhaust and had the ecu flashed. Toce makes the best sounding full exhaust out there for the Z900. Bike is a ripper. TST rear fender delete and rear tail light made the ass end look much better also.
All great mods! In all actuality I love this bike and am very sad I sold it. But on to bigger and better things! Thanks for watching!
What did you replace it with?
I agree on everything, spot on, except on gears. Mine never skips a gear or anything like that. The clutch and the transmision alltogether is a dream. As is the Z900 ;)
I love the bike too. Kinda sad I got rid of it.
Mine either. It’s never missed 🤔
@@blakesutton4287 clutchless up shifts buttery smooth
Done 1,500 miles on mine , no gear change problems at all , Clutch less up shifts are good as well , i had the Cb 650r before , the gear changes were not very good plenty of false neutrals 👎
The wind screen is like giving your bike a Mohawk it’s pretty bad ass
Hahah!
Bro my buddy has a exaust on his and it’s one of the best sounding bikes iver ever heard
It's all subjective. Personally I just think the parallel twins and triples sound better. BUT to each their own! When I did headers, it was so DAMN loud that I had to pull it off and put the stock muffler with the slip on back on. Maybe it just didn't resonate with my ears? Thanks for watching!
@@UrbanMoto true that. A lot people like the sound of sv after I got my new exaust.
My Z400, I'm not sure if it's missing but sometimes I'll shift from first to second and it'll drop down to neutral. It's pretty aggravating but I'd say it happens even less than 1 in 10 times, maybe 1 in 75 or more.
Interesting... I wonder if it's something with the new Z gearbox?! hmmmm My 2016 Z650 didn't have that problem.
@@UrbanMoto Yeah mine is a 2020 so it may be something with the newer boxes.
Shifting problems, never had any problems with mine.
Some advice is to wear boots not runners/sneakers.
These can cause weak shifts
I would agree in every scenario, but.... I wore Alpinestars boots every time I rode the bike. It was strange for sure.
How are you gunna give a sound clip of stock muffler when you have a LeoVince lol wth
Yea good point haha! I suppose I could have shown it with the Leo instead but in my head when I was editing i assumed people would want to hear the stock sound. 🤷♂️ thanks for watching!
I have test ridden the Z900 and I loved it. For a budget type bike it handles great [far better than the old MT09]. Never had the gearbox issues you mentioned [smooth and flawless]. Seat is hard and would need changing. Just seen the new add for the 2022 900 se version with uprated suspension [Ohlins rear, yipee] and brembo brakes. These updates should seriously make this bike stop and handle with the best of them.
I agree! I can't wait to throw my leg over the new SE version. I love it to :) Actually I made a video about the 5 things I love and I actually REALLY do like this bike. Unfortunately I sold it for OTHER ventures BUT I can't wait to check out the new one! Thanks for watching!
Damn I never considered a $10.000 motorcycle to be budget type but I am currently looking into buying one myself
Agree with all, except the sound part. My friend has a full system sc project on it and I have to admit it sounds much better than those triples.
Guess I’m just more partial to the parallel twins and triples 🤙🏻 thanks for watching!
True, i have a full titanium sc project and it sounds so mean and yelling. Akrapovic sounds like a hollow fart.
@@Snotroggel453 akras are overrated. Sc project sounds like the devil himself, tbh after some time you have to give up on sc project for the welfare of your ears 😅😅
I had a 03 Kawasaki z1000A had a muzzy 4 into one with a muzzy titanium slip on sounded really nice fast bike for the year would love to have it back
Sounds amazing! Something special about the older bikes!
They make bar end mirrors that wrap around the bar ends
In all honesty, how bad does the wind pummel you if you're doing 80ish mph? Whatever bike I get, I will be doing about 25 miles each way to work and home on the highway. Was going to do the Ninja 650, but this one has caught my eye. You think upgrading from a cbr250r, which I hadn't ridden since I left Korea at the end of 2014 would be an okay jump in power? I rode that 250 in Korea for about three years and was my first and only bike.
Really the wind isn't too bad. I would definitely recommend a windscreen of some kind if you're doing long highway commutes. The 900 is a snappy fast bike especially over a 250 but if you're responsible you should have no problems. It's a very compliant bike!
@@UrbanMoto I'm going to go sit on one today. But sitting on it obviously isn't the same as actually riding it. Hopefully being responsible is good enough to grow into. Just don't want to end up buying and having to sell in a year or two because I wasn't satisfied with the 650. You think a windscreen even for that daily 50 mile roundtrip commute? Or just if doing longer commutes? Thanks!
I've fitted the Kawasaki larger screen, it doesn't change the appearance and offers a little more wind protection. Puig offer some touring screens, but they look hideous. Can't really complain as it's a naked bike. There's an Australian chap on CZcams who fitted a full akrapovic system, not cheap but sounds great. I do agree on a couple of points though, the pillion seat is an afterthought and the rider seat could be softer. I've not experienced the 2nd gear thing on mine.
Yea I saw the larger windscreens and blah awful lol! I liked the Leo Vince but I didn’t want to spend the extra on the akra but it does sound amazing!!
i got this same year and color and love it too!
It’s a sweet bike for sure!
I had a 2019 Z900 for a few months and I agree with your comments on the shifting - I had a hard time getting smooth shifts out of it consistently. Shifting required more attention than other bikes I've ridden - it usually ended up being a little jerky, and it did fall out of gear or hit a false neutral here and there, which wasn't real confidence inspiring. The sound was also a little bland like you said, until you really got on it in the upper RPMs. Those things aside, it was a great bike for covering a lot of ground quickly but it ended up being a bit MORE bike than I would ever need or want, and less fun than riding lower powered bikes. I guess I'd rather ride a slow bike fast!
I felt the same way! Love the bike overall just some weird shifting quarks for sure! Also yes 💯 love riding slow bikes fast vs the opposite! Haha thanks for watching!
what that mean about bike gearbox.. one thing.. its shit
Try motorcycle synthetic oil if this bikes shares oil with motor. Not sure if it does. Nice bike!!
Wow I like the sound of an in line 4
Shifting ok with my Z900, mirrors also ok, seat pretty shit as you sad, wind... dude i cold all the fck time :D and i had bigger windshield, helps a bit, but not much. I have full SC Project system, sounds amazing!!!!! what do you expect from stock exaust?
It wasn’t stock. Had a full exhaust with headers and Leo Vince and then remove the straight headers and just left the slip on. Maybe I just didn’t have the right pipe 🤷🏻🤣
I have a 2022, and the seats are still TRASH! In regards to the sound of the engine, I feel like a full system or decat will fix that. I have a full Leo Vince system and everyone, including myself, likes the sound of the engine with a full exhaust. Thanks for the video man.
Idk. Even with the factory Akrapovic I love the way the z900 sounds.
I love it BUT I will say, after having the MT07 and riding some triples the sound just sounds almost dare I say to refined? Still pretty sweet up in the rev band!
i put a Puig sport touring and looks good too me, i put a different short slip on , on mine and nuch better sound! lol
Purchased a 2022 I have none of the complaints, or the issues that you have, other than the seat is like sitting on a rock bench.
Glad they cleaned up some of the issues! I was obviously being super critical but the complaints I felt were legit :-) thanks for watching and enjoy the beautiful Z!
@@UrbanMoto I totally get it, hopefully they have fix3d the issues or at least a majority of the ones you were having.
Never really had the hard shift in my 2019
Yeah I got I 2019 Z900RS cafe it it also misses the gears quite a bit and I think the mirrors on the cafe version are better
The cafe is a sweet looking bike!
@@UrbanMoto thank you and I agree it took me time to get use to the Kawasaki green, and I'm mad that there are some colors schemes that weren't available in the states
Would you chose this over other nakeds ? Even like the z650
100% the power delivery and smoothness alone! It’s a great platform!
Well he obviously did choose it.
I don't have any issues from 1st to 2nd. The stock mirrors suck and are ugly as hell, I have bar end mirrors forget the brand but once you get them and see another bike with stock mirrors they stick out like a sore thumb. They also work great, no longer looking at the side of you arms.
Never had an issue with the mirrors or shifting on my Z900.
Seat is hard as fuck. I placed gel seats to resolve it.
I love the stock exhaust as it doesn't give me headaches on long runs.
Planning to install a windscreen to prevent the windblast.
I don't use the app.
Do you stall a lot 1st gear ,very touchy clutch never experience that in any bike . Mine engine races like 3k rpm sometimes , once is warm goes down to 1k
Usually pretty smooth! Thanks for watching!
Rotate your throttle backwards lightly on a cold start if you’re in a pinch for time, it will allow you to ease right into 1st
Adjust your clutch lever pull to position 1 or 2 “furthest” from hand and insure your free play is 2-3mm at the perch , will certainly make the transition of taking off much easier
Just got a 2023 and the seat is still a piece of crap. It is slightly rounded like an equestrian saddle in the front and scooting back just loads your arms. Even if you are willing to bruise your taint, the knee angle for taller riders is miserable. One Kawasaki Ergo Comfort Saddle on the way. So far that's my only complaint. I put a hell of a knot between my shoulder blades vulturing over the handlebars cheeks against the backrest. Other than that, love, love, love the machine!
This comment cracked me up. YES needs an upgraded seat!
Good video although Missing shifts is a deal breaker for me I will go will the Suzuki GSX 1000 with the older 2005 GSXR K motor.
Z900 is still an awesome bike!
I heard they get quite hot so bit concerned about that as where I am is pretty hot all year round - average of 26.6 °C (79.9 °F). Any feedback from some existing owners - 2020 above ?
Get the ECU tuned by 2wheel DynoWorks. Their ecu flash changes the temp that the fans come on and makes it A LOT better.
@@robhines2235 thanks , at the moment I’m at the prospecting phase as I’m still between Cb650, z900 and trident 660. Z900 should be the obvious choice considering all three are same price almost .
I have never had issue with z900 being too hot (2021)
This sucks. This is the first time I've heard of any shifting issues with this bike. Its been on my list as probably the next bike i was gonna get but now i see this about shifting problems. Thats not good. I would like to know and maybe you can do a video about the exact shifting issues as its happening since it seems to happen pretty often you say please. What years of production is this happening on?
I'll tell you what.. It's a great bike and it doesn't happen EVERY TIME... But seeing the comments from other people on this video it sounds like it's fairly common. I would recommend riding one and testing it before purchase. You can't go wrong with the bike, it's really solid. I unfortunately sold mine so no more videos on this one.
Don't listen to this guy. He doesn't know how to ride or shift.
Inline 4 best sound for a motorcycle
Subjective :-) Parallel twins are pretty dang nice!
Your the best 👌
Thanks bud! Another video Friday to 😎 pumping them out this week 💪🏻
@@UrbanMoto I've been anticipating the new videos
My next bike
How can you complain about the wind on naked bike?
Easy! Because I’ve ridden naked bikes with better chest wind protection stock 🙃
I haven't had an issue with my stock seat so far but I have a nice cushy butt from being a fatass so maybe that's why haha. I haven't noticed many missed shifts yet but I started riding on crappy 80's motorcycles so I'm easy to please with today's bikes. I'm not a big fan of riding apps, I just wanna turn it on and go ride without having to mess with that stuff so I don't really use it. I'm looking into a better exhaust but other than that I think it's great bike right out of the box
I don't disagree and your comment made me laugh! Keep the shiny side up, stay safe!
I thought you'd say swing arm is the worst...It's really the worst. lumber swing arm.
I mean it is an inline 4 it is supposed to scream not rumble get a Parallel twin or v twin
I don’t disagree
I have the 2020 in black " love it easy to ride and maybe a little addictive at times , i sleep with it 🥰 just buy a pro race Gp stainless end can sounds nice great even and not cheap 😭 and not to loud 👍 to many vinos tonight 🤣
Its a very sweet bike, and I love it very much as well :).
It's so gorgeous though
Agreed!!
Every hating components in any bike are similar just like seat and mirrors and ground clearance
I just like the pointing out hard shifts at higher rpm from 1 to 2
Yea, my butt hurts after riding for a while on it.
Gotta look at a comfort seat for this thing! Can't deny the amazing performance with the Z900 but come on Kawasaki the SEAT SUCKS lol
Try to put some full system exhaust not just slip on then talk about the sound
Been there done that and have a video on it. Just not in love with the sound personally. But of course sound is subjective..
so take mt09.. you get me thinking
The Z900 is amazing and the tech is way better than the MT09 but that triple is fun and rowdy! Test ride them both!
how do you mean tech is better.. mt09 have quickshifter and loz more electronics.. a lot of people says that gearbox on z900 is bad.. but i like z900 looks and its more like bike for my style . but i dont know cant decide now
Only the SP MT09 has the quick shifter. The screen is larger and I think easier to read in the sun. I do love the MT09 though!
Me : i hate it because I don't have one
Well... Yea there is that haha! I did sell it though. Onto bigger and more interesting things (I do however miss it from time to time)
All done for aftermarket $$$ --
Very true, still a great bike!!!
Are you shitting me, first thing i modify on my bikes are exhaust and mirrors. For seat comfort, i recommend hitting the gym more often and not skipping leg day. And complaining about wind on a naked bike is like complaining about lean angles on a harley, you know what you get even before you buy the bike. Sorry, i dont even own a z900 but this is bullshit.
Hahaha what a bulls….s
Triples sound like they are slooooow. The lower tone is a sleeping pill. Get a grip. The Z900 was the only decent bike in your history ))
Thanks for watching 😎
Triumph street triple R is the best in this category in terms of quality fit and finish, ride and handling and yes it's triple sounds way better than the z900
yup 100%
I can believe fit and finish, but not 0-60 or any speed race for that matter. Z900 will hang with most anything on take off.
honestly am I the only one who doesnt get a hard on for vroom vroom sounds? every review Ive seen of this bike is always like "oh it doesnt SOUND very good" I know its a sin to not want loud vroom vrooms in the motorcycle world but seriously. BIKE NO GO VROOM VROOM GOOD is not a valid negitive
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Who cares about the app??