Parts of "Space above and beyond" TV Show. Battles between Hammerhead's and Chiggy von Richthofen Episode 15 : "Never no more" Episode 16: "The Angriest Angel"
"...I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch like it was Chiggy von Richthofen's blood, and celebrate his death." James Morrison delivered that line perfectly.
it's been 20 years the show got cancelled. Perhaps it is best time to revive this in high budget fox movie. James Morrison is already in his 60's. We can't wait another 10 years, this is his last chance to be McQueen again
+TheMultiGunMan 'Cancelled' is such a polite term. 'Sabotaged' is probably more accurate. Fox never really gave this show a chance. They shuffled its time slot so many times that it was almost impossible to know when it would be on, and during NFL season it was often pre-empted outright. Then they cried that the ratings were poor and pulled the plug after only one season, in the very middle of a story arc.
@@jeffgo8658 I agree with your comment as this show has several strong female leads already, they would only need to add a female flag officer to 'make things equal'.
It'd be hard to do without the masterful filmscore from Shirely Walker. That was the other element of the show that made it awesome. Just some of the best music ever made for a sci fi.
McQueen was one of those badass characters that you could never forget, and this dogfight in the blackness of space is one of the most poetic pieces in science fiction.
My husband was in the Navy. we loved this show. After his third brain surgery we were watching this series and he was going in and out. It was the series finale and my husband woke up and started screaming to 'save his shipmates'. I asked him what shipmates. He said, get someone in the water to save the pilots. He thought the show was real and was happening at sea not space. He loved this show. We had to turn the TV off and I never saw the end until we bought it on DVD.
Thank you for sharing. I hope your husband has recovered. My dad had WWII flashback dreams when he had his triple bypass. I was sleeping in a chair next to his bed at the hospital. God Bless you both
Damn dude the exchange between TC and the chaplain and then at the end with TC reflecting... I can't stop thinking about how deep this show was. A toast to you Space: Above and Beyond; you will forever be missed.
You should see the movie Red Baron. At the very start, there is a funeral for an English pilot. Four German pilots show up in their planes and drop a wreath with the text "Honored friend and enemy". Way i see it, some enemies you end up respecting.
This was absolutely the best episode of the series. It had a special meaning to all combat veterans. One of the worst times of a vets life is when he reaches an age or condition when other men no longer see them as dangerous. Taking on this mission showed he still had his mojo. McQueen wasn't just a bad mf. When the bad got together they called him boss !
@@youfuckingsuck3000 Not as unrealistic as you're probably imagining. Marine Corp police is that everyone is an infantryman first and Marine Corp pilots are, in fact, required to graduate from the Infantry Officers basic school before they ever go to flight school. That being said, the very idea that there would even be human piloted aircraft 100 years in the future is pretty unlikely. We're almost at that point right now. I do think it would have made more sense for them to be a special operations team of some sort than just pilots.
@@chardtomp As is in the Army everyone has infantry training and have rifle qualifications. It isn't anything unique. You spend 6-10 Million training a pilot vs $15,000 for one combat infantryman. Also, in any service there just isn't a lot of them. Pilots are a small very finite resource so you're not going to waste them as ground troops. Look at WW2. The Germans and Japanese had more planes than qualified pilots towards the end of the war.
@@youfuckingsuck3000 If you want realism, by 2063 there wouldn't be pilots in the aircraft at all. They'd be entirely A.I. driven. The frailty of a human pilot would only severely limit the performance of the aircraft. Hell, were almost at that point right now.
@ErickRedbeard _" I'm actually more pissed about this show that I am about Firefly."_ Same here and I _love_ Firefly. Maybe this is because at least to me, the scenario and the characters were much more relatable.
@TheMelbournelad I was pissed for quite some time, because they've released a DVD set for the US region (and of course region locked, apparently they don't like to earn money), but none for Germany. I was happy to finally get a german region DVD box, but unfortunately it is missing the pilot. _That_ is sold separately for the same price...
This show had a lot of heart. What made it so great was that it focused on the soldiers in the field - almost like an action-packed documentary about the life of the "Wild Cards" squadron. Of course, the whole "WWII in Space" vibe it had going didn't hurt.
And thus solo fight scene where a weakened commander goes out to defend his people under his command, and though weakened, he musters all his strength and skills to defeat a superior enemy! This is one, if not the best fight scene in all of sci-fi lores. He is the definition of what a hero is supposed to be and to do.
and actually Vansen and company were scoring hits but that Chig fighter must've had some tough armor since the bullets were just bouncing right off and even missiles didn't seem to do much damage
I loved this show, and that line the Colonel said to the Chaplin was one of the best line I've ever heard IMO. After all these years I am still pissed that it got cancelled.
The rumours at the time was Chris Carter and the channel wanted Morgan and Wong back to save Millennium. So SAAB was stabbed in the back to force them back to Carter. It's why Millennium got so bonkers when they were given it.
When the series premiered, it was placed after Sunday football games, and consequently, the 1st episode and many others were 'cut' if the game went into overtime. As if Fox deliberately wanted the series to fail.
i hated it when that happened; when stargate sg-1 was on TV-not cable-I'd end up missing half the episodes because of some game and had to wait the following weekend.
of course they did; fucks...sorry "Fox", as well as most networks hated sci-fi because it costs too much to produce... also the reason why we are today stuck with the Kardashians and other retardity-TV (to quote HBO's version of Legasov: it's cheaper)
Space Above & Beyond truly understood and depicted what life in a military unit in general, and a Marine Corps unit in particular would be like under these conditions. Ooh Rah!
Back in the day....there were actual officers that garnered the kind of respect and gratitude from their troops as McQueen did in this show. We bitched and moaned...but if the regiment went without Major or Lt. Col so an so we shat our pants. He made our lives miserable but at least we still had lives at the end of the LRP
I was SO disappointed when they axed this series. especially after only one season. Yes! They need to bring it back! Of course it was launched at the height of "Wing Commander" video game fame. I was working out in the Deserts of South Texas looking for traces of Ancient inhabitants. And I came home looking for a little Honor, Respect, and Esprit de Corp to carry me through to the next day!
6:59 Chiggy Von Richtofen is so malicious...I mean he not only destroyes an escape pod...but he circles it first. He let's the her know that he is going to kill her, taunting her with the fact.
That made Chiggy thoroughly unworthy of his moniker. Manfred von Richtoffen was a consummate gentleman pilot who fought his enemies with honor. He trained his pilots to NEVER shoot at helpless pilots. He was so respected for his gallantry that when he was finally shot down, the Allies recovered his body and buried him with full military honors. They even called a temporary truce to allow von Richtoffen's brother to attend the funeral. Chiggy was a disgrace to the name he was given.
@@erikjaroy8214 the humans hung that name on him. But that being said it got Col McQueen to get up, strap on his big iron and go out there and get it done. Because nobody else could
8:13 Priest: Colonel. Colonel! Colonel McQueen! Do you need to make peace with your maker. Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius "TC" McQueen: My maker was some geek in a lab coat with an eyedropper and a petri dish. What do I need to make peace with him for? Priest: In times of war we must all make peace with our maker. Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius "TC" McQueen: Well, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now. Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe. And when I get back, I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch as if it was Chiggy Von Richtofen's blood and celebrate his death. Priest: Amen.
If they ever did reboot this, we all know that they would ruin it. They wouldn't make it as dark or morally challenging as it was. One of the best dramas, let alone sci fi series, ever made.
I have the box set and i remember watching this in the late 90s. I watched a video about the red baron and this popped up in my CZcams today. The angriest angle set out to erase one of his creations from the sky
This show was great. The sci-fi babies cried that it was too dark, to depressing, why must humanity be loosing the war, why are the characters flawed. That’s who humans are. How we act in difficult situations appeals to some of us. If you like simple spoon fed plots, with light humor and nice characters, fine. But the hate towards anything that isn’t in that simplistic mold is comical to me. Just appreciate what you like, and not attack those who appreciate something different.
The unfortunate truth of the matter is that war is hell. There are no easy answers. As a veteran myself, that's why I appreciate this show. Life isn't black and white. It's grey. Only the dead have seen the end of war.
This episode was probably the best of them all. The tension, expectation when he got into the fighter and took on VonRich, was gripping stuff to say the least. It was the sort of drama you would expect with a film not a series on TV
What do you expect from a FOX show, they cancel anything good after 1 season because they are cheapskates and don't want to spend money making quality shows.
I always found it interesting that Chiggy normally attacked from behind, taking out one or multiple fighters before they even knew what hit them... not in the fight against McQueen though. He approached directly from the front, in full view of McQueen... why? I like to think that Chiggy reasoned, after seeing just *one single fighter* coming out, that this was the Chig equivalent of throwing down your handcuff and demand a duel to the death. Maybe some form of respect for a pilot who dared to take him on alone, without any support.
Chiggy was probably waiting for the humans to send out their Ace to meet him. When he saw the McQueen's lone fighter on his sensors he was probably thinking: "Finally a true fight." and gave his people's version of a Tally-Ho and Hoorah.
It's the difference between attacking novice pilots who didn't know what hit them before it was too late....and going head to head with an Ace pilot whose expecting you.
SD501st I think it's because on all of the previous occasions, the fighter squads had been bounced and ambushed by Chiggy Von Rickhoffen, and either were caught completely unawares, or were completely on-edge and half-terrified by the anticipation of if and when he WOULD turn up, and so consequently, the whole squad went to pieces and he was successfully able to maintain the initiative and run rings around them. Whereas, when McQueen flew out alone to challenge him, he knew he was out there, because he went looking for him, and knew he had to still somewhere in the area, lurking just out of sight of the carriers. A big part of this is this whole Idea of Ace Pilots (like the original Red Baron), that really gets played up here is the fact of their reputation preceding them and the psychological effect it has on The Enemy, which can often be of even military benefit, if it causes wings of enemy fighters to break formation and scatter at the sight of it. Chiggy might be a great pilot of remarkable ability, and his fighter invisible to LIDAR but the Hammerhead still has firepower, rate of fire and rate of climb/acceleration superior to his ship, and all of his advantages of radar- invisibility and a faster, more manuverable craft are taken away and negated when faced by an opponent that comes looking for him, and flies straight at him.
I remember I had never seen this show before, but I caught the episode where Chiggy von Richthofen made his debut and I was like "I want to see them finally take this guy down. I don't now who he is...but he needs to go."
I so miss this show used to love watching it with my dad brings back good memory’s one of the finest sci fi shows their was only Babylon 5 beat it for me, DS9 was good but space above and beyond was more realistic. Think I’ll have a glass of whisky and toast the memory of such a great show. Thank you for sharing this.
Best line ever, "Don't you want to make peace with your maker." "Why would want to do that, my maker was a geek in laboratory with an eye dropper and a petri dish." 😂🤣😂 Savage..
One of my favourite (and most missed) Sci-Fi shows ever. I first watched it on SKY at a friends' house and was then lucky enough to be able to record every episode when at a later date they were shown on terrestrial tv. Unfortunately, those recordings were on VHS and have now been 'lost'. I've seen DVD collections advertised, but I'm not sure any of them are 'complete' (it's been over 20 years, but my recollection of the last episode I saw...actually, on reflection I'm going to edit/move this next bit (scroll right down) so as not to spoil things for anyone who hasn't seen the series before. Also, to my recollection, there seemed to be two series/seasons, although I ever only seem to see reference to one. However, it's possible that over here in the UK, the series was split/broadcast in two parts, each with a different intro/title sequence (?) *** SPOILER ALERT *** *** SERIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL THINGS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T ALREADY SEEN IT *** *** OKAY, I TRIED TO BE CONSIDERATE AND GIVE PEOPLE A HEADS-UP *** West ( together with Hawkes ? ) finds and rescues his missing girlfriend / Vansen sacrifices herself, and an unconscious Damphousse - I think Wang had been KIA at this point; to facilitate their escape). My favourite episodes:- The one where A.I.'s have taken over a mining facility, captured Hawkes and to buy time he plays to their fascination with odds/probability and tells them to "take a chance". The one with 'bad-ass' Ray Butts. The one where Hawkes has to cut power to the section of an in-vitro transport where his 'unborn' sister is, in order to save the rest of the ship. .
There was a story about the Hammerhead fighters used in this series - they were built in Japan, and shipped to the US for the film sequences. They were so convincing, that Chinese spies actually were on the freighter, and opened up the shipment crates to photograph them!
Oh DAMN, ' With all due respect Chaplain, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now, because he knows I'm about to go out in that sky in this plane and remove one of his creations from his universe. And when I return, I'm gonna drink a bottle of scotch as if it were Chiggy von Richthofen' blood and celebrate his death'. 'Amen'.
Always left comparing this alien to "The Red Baron" was a little unfair. Yes during WW1 the Germsns has SLIGHTLY better planes (not by much) and yes Richtophen used that advantage to do aerial surprise attacks from above...but he was also one of the best marksman and pilots to EVER fly a plane from the era. The man who shot him down, Eddy Richanbacher, said as much. Chiggy had radar jamming, superior speed and manuverability even for his races' fighters, his fighter's seeming ability to operate alone and away from a BoA for extended periods. A chassis all but immune to cannon fire that could take at least one direct missile hit before needing repairs. The list goes on. He was at best a slightly above average alien pilot who relied on his tech advantage...which got him killed once a real ace showed up.
Agreed. Chiggy was closer to Erich Hartmann, who performed ambushes and shot at close range against poorly equipped and trained Soviet pilots (at the time they often didn't even have sights and just drew a circle on their canopy in pen), while not being anything special at aerial combat at all. Or disregarding flying aces altogether, Michael Wittman, a Tank Ace who used poor tactics and pranced around the battlefield as he pleased because his Tiger was nearly invulnerable against the Soviet tanks he was facing. Which is why he died to a US Firefly who could actually penetrate his armour.
@@LibJumper Minor caveat regarding Mr. Wittmann, he cut his teeth in StuG IIIs and Pz. IIIs, being assigned to a Tiger in 1943. So from 1939 to 1943 he was hardly prancing around battlefields in an invulnerable tank. Far from it, in fact, bearing in mind that T34s and KV 1 and 2s - numerous in the Soviet arsenal - were equipped with better guns and were better armoured than either a 1941-42 vintage Pz. III or Sturmgeschütz. The long barrelled Ausf. F StuG being fielded in mid to late 1942 and the Pz. III‘s main armament never exceeding 5cm, in its medium tank role. In order for Wittmann to get a Tiger - let alone command a force of Tigers - he needed to have survived and excelled in the bloody fighting from 1941 to 1943 on the Eastern Front. Not exactly a cake walk. Allied tankers in Normandy were bloody lucky that the Luftwaffe was otherwise engaged and that air superiority was theirs as a result. Without it, they would have suffered significantly higher casualties than they already did. Against an enemy still mostly equipped with Panzer IVs, StuGs and even some late model Pz. IIIs. The lion’s share of Tigers only coming West late into 1944.
8UP1977 Frak me, as I type this comment, I have VLC player paused with *Scar* playing on it. I kept thinking: "BSG _must've_ got the idea for this episode from Space Above & Beyond's _Abandon All Hope_! Let me go see whats on CZcams." lol Small world...
One of the best Sci fi TV series. Effects were not bad for the mid-90's. It was ahead of it's time. If it were done today (2018). The show would have lasted longer than it did. Imagine the effects if it were done today. It was fun to watch then and here on youtube.
Yup. The Amiga's heyday. This was the last major production, other than Babylon 5, that used Amiga farms to render the animations.B5 moved to PC versions of Lightwave towards the end of the series. S:AAB was killed off far too early. I still despise Fox for not letting Wang and Morgan complete the series. AMF.
So glad I found this, I too loved this show, and this episode was my favourite, a fair bit of the back story is missing but you get the point, excellent tv and sorely missed.
Excerpts from the series "Space above and beyond". Judging Hammerhead'ów of Chiggy von Richthofen Episode 15: "Never no more" Episode 16: "The Angriest Angel"
My memory of this show is a bit sketchy but as I recall Col. McQueen was suffering from some sort of sickness which gave him vertigo when he flew the mission against Chiggy von Richthofen. This makes his victory all the more impressive, as he was fighting a stealth-enabled opponent with nothing but his fury and determination to aid him.
You remember correctly. As I recall he had an implant following a war wound which affected his balance, he turns up at the medical centre and says take this out, hence the neck bleed seen at the end and the additional ear bleed from the stresses of combat.
You remember almost correctly. In the opening miniseries his squadron gets mostly pasted by the Chigs and he has to have an implant to steady his balance after a wound sustained in that battle. Meant he couldn't fly combat anymore. He got them to remove it so he could fly, but had to go through quite the ordeal to keep it together. He is seen almost falling over and vomiting in scenes not in this vid. Loved the show and this one was one of my favourites. It showed even an old dog could outsmart a superior enemy who didn't respect him, two straight up the tail pipe.
History has proven it. Even with the most advanced toys of the trade. You are doomed to fail if you make an inferior enemy with superior numbers desperate ... Absolutely taking nothing away from McQueen . His determination was legendary. But at this point in the series Chiggy von Richthofen had to have been stretched thin fighting multiple fronts receiving few repairs if any at all . Especially after his whereabouts were revealed. The intense strain on Chiggy's ship had reached its breaking point. Then a lone Hammerhead arrives ....then leaves the scene with with one and a half functional engines and one more alien debris cloud left behind 🔥💯
Great scenes from great episodes of a great sci-fi series that deserved more notice and more support from its network than it received. The scene where Colonel McQueen faces off with the chaplain is written and acted to perfection!
Seam Terrell neither did I, but at least that one character (I forget his name) got to reunite with his girlfriend in the series finale instead of Fox ending the show with a cliffhanger like a lot of other shows had in the past
"...I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch like it was Chiggy von Richthofen's blood, and celebrate his death."
James Morrison delivered that line perfectly.
Most badass line ever.
The angiest Angel.
Amen.
This was an extremely underrated Sci-Fi Show. I wish it hadn't been cancelled.
it's been 20 years the show got cancelled. Perhaps it is best time to revive this in high budget fox movie. James Morrison is already in his 60's. We can't wait another 10 years, this is his last chance to be McQueen again
There is no great need to use the exact same cast if it's a complete reboot. Use whatever actor suits the role.
antred11 make it a movie, better this way. I don't have to rush home and wait for the series to air on TV and interrupted by ads.
+antred11
They'd better bring back Morgan Weisser though
+TheMultiGunMan 'Cancelled' is such a polite term. 'Sabotaged' is probably more accurate. Fox never really gave this show a chance. They shuffled its time slot so many times that it was almost impossible to know when it would be on, and during NFL season it was often pre-empted outright. Then they cried that the ratings were poor and pulled the plug after only one season, in the very middle of a story arc.
If there is one sci fi show that truly deserves a modern reboot, "Space, Above and Beyond" is it.
I really hope so but without the Woke part that is invading the film and television industry. This story needs to be told the way it was.
@@jeffgo8658 I agree with your comment as this show has several strong female leads already, they would only need to add a female flag officer to 'make things equal'.
It'd be hard to do without the masterful filmscore from Shirely Walker. That was the other element of the show that made it awesome. Just some of the best music ever made for a sci fi.
Scott Lee definitely
make it a high budget movie instead, I could watch it in cinema on first class
"I'll be a son of a bitch if I'm going to your funeral"
"Yes sir you will, but we can talk about your mother when I get back."
I wonder of Ross' actor was corpsing right after?
McQueen was one of those badass characters that you could never forget, and this dogfight in the blackness of space is one of the most poetic pieces in science fiction.
The last sequence with McQueen battling Chiggy with the funeral backdrop was a beautiful piece of story telling.
Beautiful editing with the Marine calling out "Fire!" intercut with the Hammerhead firing.
A Classic
My husband was in the Navy. we loved this show. After his third brain surgery we were watching this series and he was going in and out. It was the series finale and my husband woke up and started screaming to 'save his shipmates'. I asked him what shipmates. He said, get someone in the water to save the pilots. He thought the show was real and was happening at sea not space. He loved this show. We had to turn the TV off and I never saw the end until we bought it on DVD.
I know that feeling all too well.
you are both LEGENDS this is the way
That’s what you call brotherhood, nothing like it in the universe.
Back when the anti-democracy types were the enemy. Now they are the GOP.
Thank you for sharing. I hope your husband has recovered. My dad had WWII flashback dreams when he had his triple bypass. I was sleeping in a chair next to his bed at the hospital. God Bless you both
Damn dude the exchange between TC and the chaplain and then at the end with TC reflecting... I can't stop thinking about how deep this show was. A toast to you Space: Above and Beyond; you will forever be missed.
Then he came back as Bill Buchanan in 24 and was a badass all over again.
You should see the movie Red Baron. At the very start, there is a funeral for an English pilot. Four German pilots show up in their planes and drop a wreath with the text "Honored friend and enemy".
Way i see it, some enemies you end up respecting.
This was absolutely the best episode of the series. It had a special meaning to all combat veterans. One of the worst times of a vets life is when he reaches an age or condition when other men no longer see them as dangerous. Taking on this mission showed he still had his mojo. McQueen wasn't just a bad mf. When the bad got together they called him boss !
I was a naval officer in the 80s and 90s and this show had some of the most believable military dialog I've ever seen on TV.
Would be surprised if Dale Dye wasn't the military advisor on it.
Were your pilots used as grunts? That was so not believable.
@@youfuckingsuck3000 Not as unrealistic as you're probably imagining. Marine Corp police is that everyone is an infantryman first and Marine Corp pilots are, in fact, required to graduate from the Infantry Officers basic school before they ever go to flight school. That being said, the very idea that there would even be human piloted aircraft 100 years in the future is pretty unlikely. We're almost at that point right now. I do think it would have made more sense for them to be a special operations team of some sort than just pilots.
@@chardtomp As is in the Army everyone has infantry training and have rifle qualifications. It isn't anything unique. You spend 6-10 Million training a pilot vs $15,000 for one combat infantryman. Also, in any service there just isn't a lot of them. Pilots are a small very finite resource so you're not going to waste them as ground troops. Look at WW2. The Germans and Japanese had more planes than qualified pilots towards the end of the war.
@@youfuckingsuck3000 If you want realism, by 2063 there wouldn't be pilots in the aircraft at all. They'd be entirely A.I. driven. The frailty of a human pilot would only severely limit the performance of the aircraft. Hell, were almost at that point right now.
I loved this show. I'm still pissed that they cancelled it after only one season. I'm actually more pissed about this show that I am about Firefly.
@ErickRedbeard
_" I'm actually more pissed about this show that I am about Firefly."_
Same here and I _love_ Firefly. Maybe this is because at least to me, the scenario and the characters were much more relatable.
ErickRedbeard agreed. I got my hands on a box set of the dvds. Prized possessions
@TheMelbournelad
I was pissed for quite some time, because they've released a DVD set for the US region (and of course region locked, apparently they don't like to earn money), but none for Germany.
I was happy to finally get a german region DVD box, but unfortunately it is missing the pilot. _That_ is sold separately for the same price...
Furzkampfbomber I got the us version. Luckily had a less then legal region free DVD player lol
aye, a great show to be sure, real shame I didnt see it until this year either XD,
Heroes like these don't celebrate their victories. They remember their fallen comrades.
One of the best space battle scenes of all times.
I saw this 20 years ago, and i still know every single move of Chigg van during his last fight.
This show really deserved another season to tie everything up
It was such a great show.
Lt. Colonel T.C. McQueen...
The Angriest Angel .
This show had a lot of heart. What made it so great was that it focused on the soldiers in the field - almost like an action-packed documentary about the life of the "Wild Cards" squadron. Of course, the whole "WWII in Space" vibe it had going didn't hurt.
And thus solo fight scene where a weakened commander goes out to defend his people under his command, and though weakened, he musters all his strength and skills to defeat a superior enemy!
This is one, if not the best fight scene in all of sci-fi lores.
He is the definition of what a hero is supposed to be and to do.
McQueen just showed everyone how an Ace Pilot kicks ass.
That was some close quarters stuff at the end, like a knife fight in a phonebooth.
+Samurai Momo And if you notice carefully, you'll his right ear is bleeding
Yep. But he (the character) was a great pilot who doesn't let anything get in the way of getting the mission done.
Because he removed an implant that gave him his sense of balance back, but barred him from being a combat pilot.
Samurai Momo that's some mad respect there
and actually Vansen and company were scoring hits but that Chig fighter must've had some tough armor since the bullets were just bouncing right off and even missiles didn't seem to do much damage
I loved this show, and that line the Colonel said to the Chaplin was one of the best line I've ever heard IMO. After all these years I am still pissed that it got cancelled.
Please forgive my later response, but yes. Epic scene, excellent writing. 🥰
The rumours at the time was Chris Carter and the channel wanted Morgan and Wong back to save Millennium. So SAAB was stabbed in the back to force them back to Carter.
It's why Millennium got so bonkers when they were given it.
"What makes you think you can win?" "I have no choice."
Most Bad Ass statement of the show!
Love to rewatch this episode when I am preparing for a Long Run. Failure is Not and option!
Colonel McQueen; so badass he got the job as Jack Bauer's boss.
Then without even hesitating for one second he ran into danger and sacrificed himself so that Jack Bauer could save the President. What a boss.
When the series premiered, it was placed after Sunday football games, and consequently, the 1st episode and many others were 'cut' if the game went into overtime. As if Fox deliberately wanted the series to fail.
Yeah, for an era with some really promising sci-fi it was a really bad time for sci-fi.
back in the day fox shit on a lot of sci-fi and fantasy shows. The way they treated this show, buffy, angel, and firefly was just bullshit.
i hated it when that happened; when stargate sg-1 was on TV-not cable-I'd end up missing half the episodes because of some game and had to wait the following weekend.
I had the opportunity to ask someone from Fox about this at the time. They told me Fox didn't own it and had little interest in pushing it.
of course they did; fucks...sorry "Fox", as well as most networks hated sci-fi because it costs too much to produce... also the reason why we are today stuck with the Kardashians and other retardity-TV (to quote HBO's version of Legasov: it's cheaper)
Space Above & Beyond truly understood and depicted what life in a military unit in general, and a Marine Corps unit in particular would be like under these conditions. Ooh Rah!
This was such a great show and did not deserve to be cancelled after just one season
Col. Macqueen vs Chiggy von Richthofen ...best dog-fight in SciFi-history! ...cheers
Back in the day....there were actual officers that garnered the kind of respect and gratitude from their troops as McQueen did in this show. We bitched and moaned...but if the regiment went without Major or Lt. Col so an so we shat our pants. He made our lives miserable but at least we still had lives at the end of the LRP
I’ve always found the best leaders didn’t even know they were great. Others had to tell them that.
Kept waiting for the "abandon all hope, my ass" clip.
I was SO disappointed when they axed this series. especially after only one season. Yes! They need to bring it back! Of course it was launched at the height of "Wing Commander" video game fame. I was working out in the Deserts of South Texas looking for traces of Ancient inhabitants. And I came home looking for a little Honor, Respect, and Esprit de Corp to carry me through to the next day!
One of my all-time favorite shows! I was surprised that McQueen had room in that Hammerhead for his massive balls!😁☠️💪
Miss this show so much... too bad it's not the whole episode. I love the interaction between the characters that spurs him to go into battle.
True leadership is always from the front! This show definately needs a reboot.
If there was a reboot, it would need faaaaar more depth.
but without sacrificing the scifi otherwise they shouldnt bother
the absolute best scene in this series. what a golden show!
God this show was so good one of the shows that I hate that there was no more especially how they left the show
That was wicked! I really enjoyed seeing that for the first time in nearly 20 yrs. thanks!
6:59 Chiggy Von Richtofen is so malicious...I mean he not only destroyes an escape pod...but he circles it first. He let's the her know that he is going to kill her, taunting her with the fact.
That made Chiggy thoroughly unworthy of his moniker. Manfred von Richtoffen was a consummate gentleman pilot who fought his enemies with honor. He trained his pilots to NEVER shoot at helpless pilots.
He was so respected for his gallantry that when he was finally shot down, the Allies recovered his body and buried him with full military honors. They even called a temporary truce to allow von Richtoffen's brother to attend the funeral.
Chiggy was a disgrace to the name he was given.
@@erikjaroy8214 the humans hung that name on him. But that being said it got Col McQueen to get up, strap on his big iron and go out there and get it done. Because nobody else could
My maker was some geek in a lab coat with an eyedropper and a petri dish. What would I need to make peace with him for? Fuck yeah TC, fuck yeah.
hooah
This was a bad ass ep. I loved this show. Amen.
Going to wear my Hammerhead tshirt next week :)
He had the first part of the inscription on the Gates of Hell from Dante's Inferno painted on his Starfighter. That's gangsta.
8:13
Priest: Colonel. Colonel! Colonel McQueen! Do you need to make peace with your maker.
Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius "TC" McQueen: My maker was some geek in a lab coat with an eyedropper and a petri dish. What do I need to make peace with him for?
Priest: In times of war we must all make peace with our maker.
Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius "TC" McQueen: Well, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now. Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe. And when I get back, I'm going to drink a bottle of scotch as if it was Chiggy Von Richtofen's blood and celebrate his death.
Priest: Amen.
Well put.
Without a doubt and he did just what he said he would definitely do
Excellent! The quality of this show is so far beyond the Sci-Fi offerings on the tube today. Miss this show! Thanks for the post.
The Expanse comes close but that leans more towards drama and political intrigue. For space combat, Space is still the gold standard.
If they ever did reboot this, we all know that they would ruin it. They wouldn't make it as dark or morally challenging as it was. One of the best dramas, let alone sci fi series, ever made.
Today, instead of cloned humans - 'Tanks', they would have 'Trans/whatever' SJW fighters.
That's because the story will not mirror on what got it dropped to begin with...
Big brother bashing.
I have the box set and i remember watching this in the late 90s. I watched a video about the red baron and this popped up in my CZcams today. The angriest angle set out to erase one of his creations from the sky
At least the Red Baron had the sense of honor not to fire on a man who'd parachuted out of a plane he'd shot down.
Fuckin' chiggs man.....
Dang I loved this series. So under appreciated. Telling off the Chaplain was one of my favorite scenes to boot.
Now this is a show they need to bring back.
This show was great. The sci-fi babies cried that it was too dark, to depressing, why must humanity be loosing the war, why are the characters flawed. That’s who humans are. How we act in difficult situations appeals to some of us. If you like simple spoon fed plots, with light humor and nice characters, fine.
But the hate towards anything that isn’t in that simplistic mold is comical to me. Just appreciate what you like, and not attack those who appreciate something different.
The unfortunate truth of the matter is that war is hell. There are no easy answers. As a veteran myself, that's why I appreciate this show. Life isn't black and white. It's grey. Only the dead have seen the end of war.
Coleman Sisley powerful statement.
Hugely underrated masterpiece.
Never heard of this show. I have to watch it now!
a great show " Space above and beyond"
Every Sunday, I made sure that no matter what, I was in front of the TV to watch it.
This was such a great show, should not have gotten cancelled.
LOVED this show! So sad when it got canceled!
"This one's for you, Winslow."
Always loved the scene with the Chaplain. It reminded me of several Navy Chaplains who served with Marines, they are a special breed.
This episode was probably the best of them all.
The tension, expectation when he got into the fighter and took on VonRich, was gripping stuff to say the least.
It was the sort of drama you would expect with a film not a series on TV
All these years later, and I still look back at this show, wishing it hadn't been cancelled! :(
The cancellation of this show was one the greatest trageties.
What do you expect from a FOX show, they cancel anything good after 1 season because they are cheapskates and don't want to spend money making quality shows.
I think its memory shines brighter because of it.
Never gets old. The best sci-fi version of the classic ace vs ace I have ever seen. This show had so much potential, so said.
I remember this show from way back when... still looks decent considering it's age and the story writing was something else.
Probably the best one on one sci-fi fight scenes I've ever seen..... AWESOME.
OMG....PLEASE re-boot this show!!!
I'm looking at the box set sitting right next to my X-Box. Loved this show.
The song of Snoopy vs the Red Baron was running through my mind whilst watching this but it became Chiggy von Richtofen was his name.
I always found it interesting that Chiggy normally attacked from behind, taking out one or multiple fighters before they even knew what hit them... not in the fight against McQueen though.
He approached directly from the front, in full view of McQueen... why?
I like to think that Chiggy reasoned, after seeing just *one single fighter* coming out, that this was the Chig equivalent of throwing down your handcuff and demand a duel to the death. Maybe some form of respect for a pilot who dared to take him on alone, without any support.
Marcel Ebert Probably the first time it happened!
Then after the first pass discovered why he didn't bother with support fighters!
Chiggy was probably waiting for the humans to send out their Ace to meet him. When he saw the McQueen's lone fighter on his sensors he was probably thinking:
"Finally a true fight." and gave his people's version of a Tally-Ho and Hoorah.
It's the difference between attacking novice pilots who didn't know what hit them before it was too late....and going head to head with an Ace pilot whose expecting you.
Overconfidence possibly,... chiggy was used to attacking multiple targets & putting them down
SD501st I think it's because on all of the previous occasions, the fighter squads had been bounced and ambushed by Chiggy Von Rickhoffen, and either were caught completely unawares, or were completely on-edge and half-terrified by the anticipation of if and when he WOULD turn up, and so consequently, the whole squad went to pieces and he was successfully able to maintain the initiative and run rings around them.
Whereas, when McQueen flew out alone to challenge him, he knew he was out there, because he went looking for him, and knew he had to still somewhere in the area, lurking just out of sight of the carriers.
A big part of this is this whole Idea of Ace Pilots (like the original Red Baron), that really gets played up here is the fact of their reputation preceding them and the psychological effect it has on The Enemy, which can often be of even military benefit, if it causes wings of enemy fighters to break formation and scatter at the sight of it.
Chiggy might be a great pilot of remarkable ability, and his fighter invisible to LIDAR but the Hammerhead still has firepower, rate of fire and rate of climb/acceleration superior to his ship, and all of his advantages of radar- invisibility and a faster, more manuverable craft are taken away and negated when faced by an opponent that comes looking for him, and flies straight at him.
2019 now this needs to be digitally remastered especially the space battle scenes!
This show rocked.
It lasted for 24 episodes.
I loved this show, saw every episode
I remember I had never seen this show before, but I caught the episode where Chiggy von Richthofen made his debut and I was like "I want to see them finally take this guy down. I don't now who he is...but he needs to go."
This an awesome episode in an already awesome show and i still have it on dvd.😎
I've owned the series on DVD for years. Time to re-watch. "Shuffle up the Wildcards and deal em!"
I so miss this show used to love watching it with my dad brings back good memory’s one of the finest sci fi shows their was only Babylon 5 beat it for me, DS9 was good but space above and beyond was more realistic. Think I’ll have a glass of whisky and toast the memory of such a great show. Thank you for sharing this.
Best line ever, "Don't you want to make peace with your maker." "Why would want to do that, my maker was a geek in laboratory with an eye dropper and a petri dish." 😂🤣😂 Savage..
One of my favourite (and most missed) Sci-Fi shows ever. I first watched it on SKY at a friends' house and was then lucky enough to be able to record every episode when at a later date they were shown on terrestrial tv. Unfortunately, those recordings were on VHS and have now been 'lost'.
I've seen DVD collections advertised, but I'm not sure any of them are 'complete' (it's been over 20 years, but my recollection of the last episode I saw...actually, on reflection I'm going to edit/move this next bit (scroll right down) so as not to spoil things for anyone who hasn't seen the series before.
Also, to my recollection, there seemed to be two series/seasons, although I ever only seem to see reference to one. However, it's possible that over here in the UK, the series was split/broadcast in two parts, each with a different intro/title sequence (?)
*** SPOILER ALERT ***
*** SERIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL THINGS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T ALREADY SEEN IT ***
*** OKAY, I TRIED TO BE CONSIDERATE AND GIVE PEOPLE A HEADS-UP ***
West ( together with Hawkes ? ) finds and rescues his missing girlfriend / Vansen sacrifices herself, and an unconscious Damphousse - I think Wang had been KIA at this point; to facilitate their escape).
My favourite episodes:-
The one where A.I.'s have taken over a mining facility, captured Hawkes and to buy time he plays to their fascination with odds/probability and tells them to "take a chance".
The one with 'bad-ass' Ray Butts.
The one where Hawkes has to cut power to the section of an in-vitro transport where his 'unborn' sister is, in order to save the rest of the ship.
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When I think of Space Above and Beyond, I think of this episode. Love this one.
There was a story about the Hammerhead fighters used in this series - they were built in Japan, and shipped to the US for the film sequences. They were so convincing, that Chinese spies actually were on the freighter, and opened up the shipment crates to photograph them!
They were built in Australia, also shots for pilot's scenes was taken in Australia in Australian Air Force Base.
Oh DAMN, ' With all due respect Chaplain, I don't think our maker wants to hear from me right now, because he knows I'm about to go out in that sky in this plane and remove one of his creations from his universe. And when I return, I'm gonna drink a bottle of scotch as if it were Chiggy von Richthofen' blood and celebrate his death'. 'Amen'.
Amen and Hoorah!
When does Amen equal Hoo-Rah? When the Chaplain is a Marine Chaplain.
Daniel Haire The Chaplain is actually Navy, but he ministers to Marines.
Johnny Dominguez Just saying this particular Chaplain is Navy.
I'll bet the Chaplain wanted to make peace with HIS maker after facing off with McQueen!
That speech by McQueen is one of the two greatest ever ! (The other is Ivanova's "I am death incarnate..." in B5.)
Such an awesome show.
I am going to drink a bottle of scotch as if it was Chiggy von Richthofens blood. Man I almost got a stiffy when he said that, lol!!!
the best part of the series in one youtube clip--this was a very powerful ep.
Above and Beyond...this show was epic!!
I was not a big fan of this show, but that final battle and the emotions around it were wicked.
Always left comparing this alien to "The Red Baron" was a little unfair. Yes during WW1 the Germsns has SLIGHTLY better planes (not by much) and yes Richtophen used that advantage to do aerial surprise attacks from above...but he was also one of the best marksman and pilots to EVER fly a plane from the era. The man who shot him down, Eddy Richanbacher, said as much.
Chiggy had radar jamming, superior speed and manuverability even for his races' fighters, his fighter's seeming ability to operate alone and away from a BoA for extended periods. A chassis all but immune to cannon fire that could take at least one direct missile hit before needing repairs. The list goes on.
He was at best a slightly above average alien pilot who relied on his tech advantage...which got him killed once a real ace showed up.
Agreed. Chiggy was closer to Erich Hartmann, who performed ambushes and shot at close range against poorly equipped and trained Soviet pilots (at the time they often didn't even have sights and just drew a circle on their canopy in pen), while not being anything special at aerial combat at all.
Or disregarding flying aces altogether, Michael Wittman, a Tank Ace who used poor tactics and pranced around the battlefield as he pleased because his Tiger was nearly invulnerable against the Soviet tanks he was facing. Which is why he died to a US Firefly who could actually penetrate his armour.
@@LibJumper Minor caveat regarding Mr. Wittmann, he cut his teeth in StuG IIIs and Pz. IIIs, being assigned to a Tiger in 1943. So from 1939 to 1943 he was hardly prancing around battlefields in an invulnerable tank. Far from it, in fact, bearing in mind that T34s and KV 1 and 2s - numerous in the Soviet arsenal - were equipped with better guns and were better armoured than either a 1941-42 vintage Pz. III or Sturmgeschütz. The long barrelled Ausf. F StuG being fielded in mid to late 1942 and the Pz. III‘s main armament never exceeding 5cm, in its medium tank role. In order for Wittmann to get a Tiger - let alone command a force of Tigers - he needed to have survived and excelled in the bloody fighting from 1941 to 1943 on the Eastern Front. Not exactly a cake walk. Allied tankers in Normandy were bloody lucky that the Luftwaffe was otherwise engaged and that air superiority was theirs as a result. Without it, they would have suffered significantly higher casualties than they already did. Against an enemy still mostly equipped with Panzer IVs, StuGs and even some late model Pz. IIIs. The lion’s share of Tigers only coming West late into 1944.
The best alien pilot before Scar hit the scene.
The plot was identical. utterly identical.
"The Scar", You mean China Miéville's novel from 2002?
Scar from the 2004-2010 Battlestar Galactica series.
8UP1977 Frak me, as I type this comment, I have VLC player paused with *Scar* playing on it. I kept thinking: "BSG _must've_ got the idea for this episode from Space Above & Beyond's _Abandon All Hope_! Let me go see whats on CZcams." lol
Small world...
+cory stereo not really, scar was nothing special, just an ace. this one has superior tech
One of the best Sci fi TV series. Effects were not bad for the mid-90's. It was ahead of it's time. If it were done today (2018). The show would have lasted longer than it did. Imagine the effects if it were done today. It was fun to watch then and here on youtube.
Yup. The Amiga's heyday. This was the last major production, other than Babylon 5, that used Amiga farms to render the animations.B5 moved to PC versions of Lightwave towards the end of the series. S:AAB was killed off far too early. I still despise Fox for not letting Wang and Morgan complete the series. AMF.
The most under-rated sci-fi series of all time. Needs to be brought back ASAP!
It was horrible. The constant noise of explosions in space damaged my eardrums!
thank you
for uploading this video
So glad I found this, I too loved this show, and this episode was my favourite, a fair bit of the back story is missing but you get the point, excellent tv and sorely missed.
Excerpts from the series "Space above and beyond". Judging Hammerhead'ów of Chiggy von Richthofen
Episode 15: "Never no more"
Episode 16: "The Angriest Angel"
Thanks for the memories
Criminally underrated show.
My memory of this show is a bit sketchy but as I recall Col. McQueen was suffering from some sort of sickness which gave him vertigo when he flew the mission against Chiggy von Richthofen. This makes his victory all the more impressive, as he was fighting a stealth-enabled opponent with nothing but his fury and determination to aid him.
You remember correctly. As I recall he had an implant following a war wound which affected his balance, he turns up at the medical centre and says take this out, hence the neck bleed seen at the end and the additional ear bleed from the stresses of combat.
You remember almost correctly. In the opening miniseries his squadron gets mostly pasted by the Chigs and he has to have an implant to steady his balance after a wound sustained in that battle.
Meant he couldn't fly combat anymore.
He got them to remove it so he could fly, but had to go through quite the ordeal to keep it together. He is seen almost falling over and vomiting in scenes not in this vid.
Loved the show and this one was one of my favourites. It showed even an old dog could outsmart a superior enemy who didn't respect him, two straight up the tail pipe.
History has proven it. Even with the most advanced toys of the trade. You are doomed to fail if you make an inferior enemy with superior numbers desperate ... Absolutely taking nothing away from McQueen . His determination was legendary. But at this point in the series Chiggy von Richthofen had to have been stretched thin fighting multiple fronts receiving few repairs if any at all . Especially after his whereabouts were revealed. The intense strain on Chiggy's ship had reached its breaking point. Then a lone Hammerhead arrives ....then leaves the scene with with one and a half functional engines and one more alien debris cloud left behind 🔥💯
Thanks for posting this...I forgot how much I loved this show..
If any sci-fi show ever deserved a reboot it’s this one!
If they rebooted it now, they’d screw the pooch
Great scenes from great episodes of a great sci-fi series that deserved more notice and more support from its network than it received. The scene where Colonel McQueen faces off with the chaplain is written and acted to perfection!
Probably one of the best episodes in the series. Cancelled waay too soon...
So sad this series will never get the HD treatment it deserves
Would love to see this brought back
I really hope Squadron 42 plays like this.
I have been looking for this show online for a long time. Loved it as a kid.
I loved this show and this episode in particular.
Seam Terrell same here, it gave us a chance to see McQueen in action as a fighter pilot, which we never got to see in the pilot episode
Karl smith, that's true. I never found out why it was cancelled.
Seam Terrell neither did I, but at least that one character (I forget his name) got to reunite with his girlfriend in the series finale instead of Fox ending the show with a cliffhanger like a lot of other shows had in the past
'Sewell Fuel, Son.' 😉 [22 years; and, I still remember that term]
8:42 - my favorite speech in the entire show.