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heres the link to the livestream where i responded to the first 300 submissions :)
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What is 3 PM KST in Belgium? Also, I'm happy you're back. It's been a while.
would love to see a vod/highlights vid or a recording, my timezone doesn't match well with pst at all but i really enjoy your takes! glad to see you back and really respect how you interact with different opinions and how you're open to them
It's funny because 2gen kpop was all y2k but no one pays attention to 2gen anymore like if you want real y2k go listen to 2gen like 2pm miss a wonder girls 4minute fx shinee super junior etc but that's my opinion
@@goyangzi26523pm kst translates to 8 am Belgium time :)) im not personally in Belgium so I used Google to help me answer this question 😅😅😅😅
Probably won't make it this time cuz I have exams to retake the next week but any stream after that I'll be happy to join
I'm a straight guy, but dang does Min-gyu look crazy good in that thumbnail.
I’m guy and am GAYYY for Mingyu 😩
As a lesbian woman, I agree.
@@redvelbeyexox I'm a bi guy, but Mingyu is on another level 😅😍
As a straight guy, i couldnt agree more
If this man creates an OF then i would subscribe to it wihtout a doubt
Personally, I think Aespa represents Y2K much better than they’re given credit for. Y2K had so much technological influence in media. Spy Kids, Totally Spies, Kim Possible, Winx Club, Code Lyoko, Cyber Chase, and all of DC’s properties (Justice League, Teen Titans, Young Justice) included futuristic aesthetics to match the rising integration of technology in our daily lives through the widespread usage of the internet. Y2K was more than just the mismatched fashion of “Spicy” and clean aesthetics of “Attention”. There was so much going on in the 2000s. I feel like so many KPop stans (especially those born in 2008 and later) really didn’t get to experience just how much was going on, in a similar fashion to how all decades have a plethora of observable aspects.
So yeah, I think there’s way more to the Y2K concept that has yet to be explored and Aespa is the closest group to unlocking its potential! Also, give me a key-tar solo in one of their songs! “Less Talk More Rokk” was such an iconic song and fully encapsulates a lot of what made the alternative side of the decade great!
you need to start a commentary channel 👀
THIS!!! Aespa has been giving us cyber y2k since debut, it’s time people recognized that
@@PlanetMinjae I need to start taking my depression meds on a regular basis 😂❤️
THISSSS!!!!!!
that "songs should stop being 2 minutes 30 seconds" one is so true 😭i recently saw skz's "ATE' track list and i genuinely was SHOCKED to see two songs (one of them being the title track) being 2 minutes 28 seconds
I did not think it was gonna be that short but I think a big part of why it's so short is because kids or teenagers have a way lower attention span mainly bcs of tiktok and brainrot content
skz has had songs that are 2 minutes like christmas evel and gods menu. y’all just wanna complain this era
I love live my life by Aspea but it is so short at 2 min and 30 sec 😭😭😭 I am so proud of Ive cuz so many of their song are long.
@@Reilikesateezxmas evel is almost 4 minutes and gods menu is 3 minutes fym bro
@@ychansluvv christmas evel is 2 minutes. how would it almost be 4 minutes? and plus, it’s still 2 minutes. don’t know why y’all are complaining
I only care about scandals if they actually hurt somebody or are involved with criminals or doing really shitty things to people. cough **HyunA** cough
smoking or dating in high school? saying something silly or having a misunderstanding during a private conversation? idgaf. bring back Seunghan please.
The thing I don't get about kiof is how kissys ( their fanbase ) call haneul 'mother' who had FRESHLY turned 18 when she debuted, in addition, 20 is considered an adult in Korea, so haneul is still a minor in her home country, and we should respect that
I know it's trendy these days, but I absolutely despise the whole "mother" and "father" name calling. I'm not calling anyone mother or father unless they actually are my mother or father. It's too important of a role/name to just throw around at complete strangers.
As a kissy myself,I've never seen her that way idk about others even though I'm younger than her but still I baby her she's soo precious ❤
I don't like it either but literally every single fan base does it. Its not just KIOF fans. Like, all trends it will fade. Don't take it so seriously.
@ShinyJess1940 I know tons of fanbases do it, I've seen it more commonly in kiof however, as all members are over the age of 18. I don't take it too seriously whatsoever, it just confuses me how it's just accepted. Like I'm not calling a kpop idol mother or father unless they feel comfortable with it
but shes getting dances like midas touch or nobody knows and sticky so the minor thing doesn't really apply
I guess my biggest hot take is that personally if a group loses a member for basically any reason, i kind of lose all Enthusiasm for the group, like i noticed with riise where as soon as a member got kicked out for seemingly no reason i just struggled to go back to them
I understand your point in Riize are still seven people since Seunghan isn't kicked
Out.
same bruh like i was about ti be a hardcore briize but then seunghan went on hiatus and the hype DIEEDDDD down in me. the same thing happened with stray kids and monsta x, it's insane
@@ji377 this same sentence was said about soojin at some point 😭😭
I have a question, but I completely understand if you don't want to answer. Take SHINee for example, they had a member- Jonghyun who passed away. Do you think that makes a difference or no?
As a plus sized k-pop fan, I really appreciate how respectfully you handled the last opinion. Often times, due to the fact I'm bigger I feel like I'm an outsider in the k-pop community and it can be rough reading comments about idols bodies knowing they're still smaller than you despite the harrassment they are receiving for being "fat" (when they are just a normal weight) and it can feel very isolating but I handle this by just remembering that k-pop should be about the art and the music and I try to distance myself from the toxic side of everything because it can be so draining but it's important to remember not every stan feels the way the toxic stans do and the toxic stans are likely just projecting their own insecurities onto these idols.
The worst part for me is you don't even have to be pluz size to feel bad about yourself because the "beauty standard" is being severely underweight for K-pop idols. I have a BMI of 22.5 and I don't feel pretty at all because I keep comparing myself to Kpop idols. And weight is just one of the many unrealistic aspects of the beauty standard.
@@lovelypanda8676 oh definitely! It's an issue for everyone I think despite their weight yk but I can only personal comment on being plus sized! I think the way I feel is quite a universal feeling many k-pop stans experience at some stage.
Don’t compare yourself; these girl are eating like an apple a day sometime to keep a certain weight. Every time I see a K-pop idol; all I do is feel sad cuz I know they are starving. Then their company make them talk about food and show them eating like they eat. In some interview, some idol are brave enough to admit the truth like they are dancing while eating one apple a day 😢
really appreciate ur input here. the kpop industry is seriously like 20 years behind when it comes to fatphobia
@PlanetMinjae It's honestly crazy how far behind even Western stans are when it comes to fatphobia, I know fatphobia is still quite an issue, but I'm glad we seem to be slightly moving foward 😭 I think you gave really great advice to the person who sent the confession, fatphobia usually stems from deep insecurity and instead of dealing with the issue it's easier to hate on others.
I think with sexualizing young women I think it's less age and more agency for me. Like a young woman in her 20s might genuinely like being sexy but I think it's important for it to be an image they've Cultivated for themselves.
With kpop we know those young women aren't doing it on their own initiative it's something they've been told to do, been taught to do, to appeal to certain groups of people and that feels exploitative. especially since if someone debuts at 18 with a sexy concept... they've still been training for a few years before that, adults have still been explicitly been teaching a kid how to be sexual
Really well said…I think this is the main issue with sexy concepts in kpop esp for groups. Because you know that even if some members are okay with it the likelihood that they all and enthusiastically on board is low
Kiss of life from what I’ve seen wanted and enjoy the sexy concept. Sistar exid also enjoy it Monsta x and 2pm have no issue either
Absolutely. Discernment is very difficult in these kind of situations. It works like grooming -- people who have been groomed have been sort of brainwashed into feeling comfortable with activity that would be considered inappropriate from more of an objective standpoint. This is why for example there is any such thing as age of consent. A young person can be persuaded to feel "comfortable" with something because it has been normalized to them, but that can at least temporarily nullify any premise of what that person may have been naturally inclined toward.
Even with sufficiently of age celebrities, it's nigh on inescapable that a young person with a passion to become famous may become more malleable when told by casting, you know, you're good, but so are the other 10,000 people competing for this spot. Wink. And then, something that is otherwise objectionable may seem like a fair bargain when that proposition has been suggested. But there is no real consent when the choice is made under duress.
There are some celebrities who seem to feel very at ease performing sexy concepts, but I can't know for sure that it isn't the act learned as part of the training. You know how idols learn to smile into the camera and seem to be flirting. Being a good performer is part of their job, so I don't reckon they have the option to put on bishface when they have cramps or are bored by the 2500th time performing the same choreo. They will have learned their job is to make us happy.
All of that said I'm not really trying to argue that all entertainment should become ascetic. There are those who are just naturals on stage, and they are comfortable that way. It does seem like we hyperfocus on kpop idols age's and all of the concerns and caretaking af if this demographic is especially in need of saviors compared to anywhere else. So I'm not sure what the conclusion is, but there may be ways to improve the conditions even as it will fall short of perfection.
i completely agree, and i think that the idol's personality and vibe plays into it so much. like definitely with haneul she is still super young and has very much cute maknae vibes, which is why seeing her doing a sexy concept feels incredibly uncomfrotable to me, even though other artists of her age it feels really natural. i know that a lot of people, myself included, at 17, 18, 19 enjoyed being and feeling sexy, i just think it's different when that is being presented to the entire world. another one for me is kazuha. i think she was still a minor when she debuted (although not completely sure) so now seeing her dance to smart and being called sexy and mother just grosses me out, because i still percieve her as quite young.
@@soobinsdolphin Kazuha was 19 at debut, so an adult already, and it's been more than two years since. Eunchae however is still very much a minor (she'll turn 18 in december).
Some of ya'll consume too much kpop (not just the music) and that's why you care about idols weight. Please explore outside of k beauty standards and you'll be a lot happier
The reason I am glad Kep1er is staying together is because the members companies besides 143 had no plans for them. I am actually happy that Yeseo and Mashiro are getting out of the god awful company wk1 is and they are going to 143. While Limelight hasn't reached major success on the charts they have been growing with every comeback
I wish them both success, separately or together as kep1er, I kinda have hope for madein cause cute concept is popular thanks to illit
5:24 thanks op for saying it some kiof fans still forget that despite them being legal adults in Korea they are still very young and a relatively rookie kpop group with less experience. Like you said it, Haneul is just 19 so in my case she is basically younger than me and i am not a very grown and mature adult
#2 Drinking shows: I agree with the commenter, but for a different reason - I don’t think that the drinking culture in Korea is healthy. Drinking is a very important part of corporate culture. Not only is refusing to attend a post-work dinner considered rude, but so is refusing to drink. So even if an idol didn’t really want to drink, there is cultural pressure to do so, especially if somebody who is your senior is offering / pouring the drink. Those scenes of very drunk workers after a company dinner in kdramas are not exaggerated
Even amongst family and friends, drinking alcohol is an important part of social interaction, and you could feel pressured to drink. When I visit my relatives in Korea, I just lie and say that I have an allergic reaction to alcohol (which was true when I was in high school) to avoid having to drink soju or makgeolli
It is alright if someone wants to drink, but in Korea many are pressured to do so. I heard it is rude to decline your boss even if it is about alcohol.
I’m Irish and even though alcohol is not a part of corporate/workplace culture (unless you have a work Christmas party or something), it is a huge aspect of socialising here. If you don’t drink, you’ll be excluded from a lot of social situations. Of course you can drink alcohol free options but you will likely be asked what’s wrong with you.
It’s not unheard of for teenagers to start drinking in dangerous situations (like in the middle of a random field at night w friends) from the age of 14 or sometimes younger. I personally don’t drink and have missed out on various situations because of it. That’s unhealthy af in my opinion.
Had never thought of that alcoholic variety shows concern, because as someone who dislikes alcohol I never watch them. It does put idols in more vulnerable positions...
The youngins don't know what y2k is, Y2k is like late 90s to early 2000s, that specific period around the year 2000, its not the 2000s in general. Half of the groups that guy mentioned aren't y2k
Yeah, Lady Gaga is definitely not Y2K. She didn't become popular until 2009.
11:18 this is not y2k lol, y2k is from late 90's to early 00's it's more tlc, blaque, britney in oops i did it again type of vibe, it's futuristic, and quirky different, the examples it's more from the edm/electropop from late 00's/early 2010's "indie sleaze" than y2k
Other thing I remenber is the cringyness of the time in aesthetics. The outfits arent how most kpop groups do. In my opinion queecard outfits represent that time well.
@@CARLAMICAELANASHCASOLA yeah lol, but queencard is more mcbling
That’s what I came to say lol like Kesha? LMAFO? Their prime was in the 2010s with WAY different aesthetic from what’s seen in y2k. I think that’s part of why the aesthetic is getting so “stale to others”. So many people don’t really know what Y2K is and what constitutes as it. Especially with it having so many sub genres
@@theonlyreallovelyzstan THISSSSSS!!!!!! 100% agree.
6:38 "brains finish developing around age 25" is a factoid actually! Mental maturity is difficult to determine. Researchers have tried to do so by seeing when changes in the prefrontal cortex plateau, but it appears that brains continue to change throughout the entire lifespan so that's not quite it. So when does someone become a mature adult? Who knows! Everyone's brains develop differently! Some 8-year-olds have shown more mental maturity in studies than some 25-year-olds, and that doesn't mean that those 8-year-olds are miraculously adults. Most of the information here was pulled from the news article from Slate titled The Myth of the 25-Year-Old Brain.
Black Eyed Peas and Gaga were popular into the early 2010s, not Y2K, and the genre is called electoclash and was popular in K-pop too in that era. Abracadabra, Lucifer, I Am The Best, and every other song in that era. Most of the production has aged terribly (I chose to name good songs because I forget most of the bad ones).
Also, I agree about song length.
BEP was kinda popular during the 2000s as well, they started in the 90's
@@danielrubinstein896 fair, but like 05-09, not before that.
@@riahlexington they are very popular at that time, especially 08-09, that was a really good time for them
Never understood the obsession with Y2k honestly most of the groups that do y2k concepts are not even Y2k
hell yeah a livestream would be awesome! that many responses is wild tho lol
I feel like a loud MINORITY of Kiss of Life fans are becoming the 5th gen version of the minority of mamamoo stans who made their whole personality the fact that they stan groups with grown women even though none of the members fit that narrative. For me, groups with grown women are those in their late twenties and onwards. In my opinion, kpop fans aren't ready to accept the idea of actual grown women debuting due to ageism and kpop distorting our perception of what age idols should achieve certain milestones in their career. I also think that this mindset could be attributed to the fact that so many people are having successful careers early into their life nowadays due to social media making it easier to succeed.
100% plus not to forget that the younger they are the more controllable they are they can give them whatever short shitty songs and theyll roll with whatever image all bc they want to be in the spotlight. they dont want to debut older idols bc theyre more likely to say things like it is. kpop is such a limiting barbaric and broken system. some day i just hope this whole world ends bc shits been getting crazier and crazier and like idols eventually come to some harm be it physical or mental
12:59 KPOP songs are short, because companies try to make them trend on TikTok, where short songs are popular for the short attention span audience
people are not have time anymore to listen a song which is over 4 minutes
People have the time to listen to longer songs, they don't have the attention span though. It's actually quite sad that people nowadays consider a song that's over 3 minutes too long.
i agree with the age take sm, i LOVE kiss of life but they’re all so young and being called “grown women”. Hanuel and Belle are basically still teenagers.
in regards to the scandals take you had, i agree. if they just did it one time and like, get better, then its good. we're all human and a one time error shouldnt be used as arguments just to convince other people your group are angels. they arent, no one is and you shouldnt exploit peoples errors for your own gain
About the older idols thing: there is this slight conspiracy/coincidence I have seen with twice, they are still really succesful but havent charted that well like they used to in koreas specifically now and have been gaining more female Fans than men, like they did in their earlier days and have been more sucess overseas now. Now to the conspiracy: that all kind of started when all the members became of age. Sure they also changed concepts but that trends started slightly earlier. But people deniying that companies debute young idols on purpose exist and this whole "well they are a grown woman" as soon as they hit 18 talk is just so wild to me
This is definitely one of the reasons but also Twice concept has changed from Cute to a bit mature that's also the reason in my opinion
itzy now have less popularity too and i think theyve stopped debuting ppl in their early 20s bc they want controllable teens who can be swayed into maybe doing stuff for perverts and creeps. i bet it deeper than what they show in the media about it.
My opinion.
As someone who grew up listening to kpop since a tween (im an adult now) i kind of understand why people say kpop is for kids (minors, teenagers included).
Most of the groups that these companies create are marketed towards that age group. I could say in the past it was quite versatile but now its definitely narrowed towards that audience.
The mingyu thumbnail bruvs are sooo right 😭😹😹😹
I know this doesn’t relate to your content but just wanna say ZB1 Zhang Hao is so cute❤😊
Oh the fatphobia is so omnipresent in Kpop it makes my blood boil. I've always been pretty skinny, but that doesn't change the fact that not everyone is and that's ok. Talking about weight, both extremes are always bad for your health, but how are people just gonna call every idol fat or big, when their whole body doesn't look malnourished is so crazy to me. I feel so bad for everyone who gets to experience such behaviour and I'm not only talking about Kpop idols and stans, but everyone in general.
The worst part about the fatphobia we see, is that it works, some idols don't get a choice if they don't wanna be on a diet and some can develop eating disorders after being scrutinized by the public for looking actually healthy. I think everyone could use a but of empathy these days 🙃.
I think riize r killing it their songs r so refreshing and amazing and the choreos r fire
my issue with a lot of kpop performances is the choreo actually detracts from the ability for the idol to show their full talents. if they always dancing how the heck they going to sing every song have choreo for tiktok and so on. at what part are these younger idols required to sing if they can slap a prerecorded backing trakc and have a pretty person sit on camera for 2-3 mins lipsynching?
I'm glad you're back! You have such a relaxing tone and it's nice to hear someone with levelheaded kpop opinions
i totally agree with the first opinion
i kinda agree and disagree on the alcohol show some are just making these idols uncomfortable and borderline controversal while other respect the idols like suchwita if ur not comfortable with drinking bring tea or something . but in conculsion i think we have normalized these contorversal ones to much
"Imma Be" by the Black Eyed Peas is literally what i thought mixx pop was gonna sound like 😭 BEP slayed the late 2000s and I absolutely agree with OP that groups/companies should be taking influence from them and dropping more club bangers !
I was the person who submitted the Y2K music
I’m glad that you agree, just imagine all these crazy sounds that were used back then in current Kpop, it would be an awesome fever dream that seems too far away from reality🥲 I think some of Treausre’s B-sides definitely have a blend of that Y2K feel, but it’s not fully close.
It could also help push songs in a longer direction in which we all really need
but y2k is late 90s-mid 00s, and the majority of the artists you named are like early 2010s edm pop era?
@@bunnytsukiko Yes I also acknowledge this, but I never know what to call that era, but it still counts as that time period so I still call it Y2K, it that’s a bit lazy of me, but that’s the only reason why I said it.
@@ProudOrbit217 "but it still counts as that time period" - That's wrong.
"never know what to call that era" - 2010s. ez
I know the "brains only fully mature at 25" thing gets repeated a lot everywhere, unfortunately it's not correct and just a science myth. The study that it goes back to looked at whether people's brains can change and found that they did in all of their participants - the oldest of which happened to be 25. So somehow 'brains still change at least up to age 25' became 'brains aren't fully developed until age 25' and finally turned into 'people don't mature until 25'. Since then there have been more studies with older participants, who also still showed placidity in their brain - so if anything, our brains never "fully mature" (whatever that even means) ;)
Plasticity is not the same as maturation though. Your muscles also change with exercise, even though you have matured. Maturation doesn't mean that you grow out of development and stay like this forever, completely unchanged from then on.
@@Sherluck93 Sure, however is plasticity exactly what has been studied and what the wrong myth of the brain reaching maturity at 25 is based on.
those “Y2K artists” are NOT Y2K……
6:15 . They did. Their M/V for Sticky is crazy 😭🙏
I like the Y2K concept but artists like BlackEyedPeas, Flo Rida, Pitbull, etc., produced really bad music (I mean they were catchy but overall the lyrics and overall production were bad - "Humps" is just a minor example). Kesha has good music at least.
My opinion btw is that there is a huge necessity of a TikTok, CZcams pages related to spreading positivity about female idols because the industry visibly mistreat them, the fans who are mostly girls discriminate them, sl*tshame them, talk and speak hate towards them. As a gg stan I feel awful seeing female idols being treated like nothing, being hated for everything that male idols are praised for. Especially, my biases like Jennie, Wonyoung, NingNing, Yuna, etc. are constantly objects of awful comments from GIRL STANS. As a community we need to protect all female idols because the harm is outrageous and we need no other victims after Sulli and Goo Hara
Yeah, Pitbull and Flo Rida always put out generic, annoying drivel for frat bros.
@@caseyadams1861their songs are club bangers tho 😭
Regarding the topic of age I have a pretty recent example with Mnets new gg Izna. The final was literally yesterday but my jaw dropped when I saw that the members range from 2004 to 2008. Like that's so young it makes me uncomfortable. It's even more weird when you watch back Iland-2 clips and see that the audience is full of grown ass man. If I was in their shoes I would honestly feel disgusted. I was born in 2006 and seeing idols debut younger than me is just so upsetting to me so I always distance myself from groups like these but lately it's literally impossible because every single new group has at least one member that's younger than me.
close enough, welcome back winterosy
in terms of the debuting at freshly 18 i totally agree. imo, being 18 should still be considered young in a kpop group, and 20 or 21 should be the ideal age. at that point, you're more mentally developed, in your physical prime, and still relatable to a teen fanbase while appealing to older fans too. it's crazy to me that even now, as a 20 year old, there are some groups im not at all interested in, purely because they feel way too young. i hate that we're at the point where we're actually pleasantly suprised and pleased when a group debuts with an 18 year old maknae, like kiof. like haneul is still super young and i feel pretty uncomfortable with her performing sticky.
i just hate that in kpop 18 and 19 year olds are considered 'grown women' like WHAT? they're still incredibly vulnerable and easy targets for all sorts of things, from harassment to unfair contracts.
When it comes to Yeseo and Mashiro I'm not really worried, mostly because 143 has enough resources and connections to use Yeseo and Mashiro's existing popularity to propel Limelight further. And while Limelight aren't the main artists under 143 at the moment, they're about to become, because iKon are in their enlistment phase - so the company needs another money maker. I'm expecting much bigger promotions for their next comeback than what they got so far, debuting the group while Kep1er was active was the company trying to mitigate the popularity gap between Yeshiro and the other members (it's the popularity gap that killed the post-IOI groups that weren't Pristin).
Thats so real I would turn straight for Mingyu
I was listening to A-Jax ‘2MYX’ and it really goes to show what kpop groups can do with Y2K boy band sounds
I‘m fr always shocked when I see any song hitting the 4 minutes. Like the only album which was released this year I can think of where every track is at least 3 min long is Door by Chen. Are there any other you can think of? btw the shortest track in door is I think 3 min 8 sec long but all others around 3 min 30 secs or longer. Idk I just hate the short track trend.
When are you making another one of these? This was so good
i gotta agree w the mingyu one idk
the last opinion makes me sad :( like it really sucks that kpop can destroy someone’s perception of people’s bodies
u should make more of these videos!
Can you do a part 2? I didn’t see your post and that’s why I didn’t submit mine 😅😂
the baby monster might be true because the rumored to be members since 2020 were older
2:10 Ooo the kep1er opinion is such an intriguing look into the situation, as the admin say, i also understand why having a fresh start is great but i knew that kep1er tho didn't have any plans after they disbanded (as cited by wakeone's statement on kep1er's state as a group minus yeshiro) so the rest of the girls wpuld realistically be left in the dark/in the basement. Hoping that kep1er gets better promo and overall better marketing towards them 🩵🩵🩵
After a quick google it seems like 6pm pst means it'll start at 3am for me. As much as I'd love to watch it live, I think I'll just watch it later. It's not a big deal though.
A friend of mine has said similar things about Mingyu so I found that confession pretty funny. I don't think she's the one who submitted it (unless more than one person had that same submission) but it's still funny to me.
I forgot to put it in the form but I broke my family’s chandelier while dancing to Jisoo’s Flower 😭
On the vein of Kpopsapphic not posting Haneul 1) they HAVE posted idols younger than her, so it's not about her being 19, or it is it would be very disingenuous if that was the case, and 2) ... that is not a sexualization page, the admin makes sure of it, it's a page of women that other women find beautiful, or women that show their support for the lgbt community. Implying that you need to be 20+ to be considered for that is just... weird
I want this video to be longerrrrrrr
(no hate intended and this is my personal opinion!!) im honestly getting bored of groups like new jeans illit etc. cuz all their songs have the same constant concept and its just getting way too repetitive like ok sure songs like attention, ditto etc are extremely popular when they were released and i admit i did like them too but that was only cuz they were the “start” of the concept and it felt “new” but if they just keep on sticking to this their popularity is just gonna decline eventually
Expansion of y2k would be fun, but i think the label of y2k has outgrown its aesthetic due to extremely rapid trend cycles
Y2k refers to 2000 ofc, but till what point would you call it y2k? 2004? 2010? 2015? 2020?
ayo not the winterosy core confessions 😨😨(even im a part of them teehee)
I agree with the first kep1er one they should have disbanded
3:51 with the alcohol based opinion, i do kinda agree with this one a lot (don't get me wrong, its fun to see celebs interact with other but there are a ton of safety precautions at play too as all parties involved have the responsibility of the person drunk to ensure they don't fuck up or better yet cause themselves anymore harm than alerady introduced) for me, i was kinda shocked that drinking variety shows are as huge just because my assumption of korea was that they don't speak about alcohol and that being a bit of taboo, guess that doesn't quite apply to the night life/club life in seoul me guess
So when i first saw this concept being played out, ofc i was kinda in a culture shock as i don't really talk about alcohol with anyone since for me that topic is quite taboo. I would say tho, if they plan to have more of these alcoholic shows, i would at least want them to have a safe driver that's not under the influence to come pick up the idols as it ensures the best possible safety for the idols involved. This topic is very nuanaced and complex so ill be happy to hear other opinions from yall regarding this 🩵🩵🩵
Alcohol is big in Korea. Have you ever heard about their company culture? They also like partying to relieve their stress. They have companies solely dedicated to drive drunk people home, in their own cars.
Also, of course the guests don't drive home alone after filming. And they can also choose not to drink, then the host won't drink as well. Ordinary people in Korea don't get this choice. So, it's actually promoting the idea that it's okay to choose not to drink.
Seems to me you don't know much about Korea. Alcohol is not taboo at all, but rather overused.
Ah ic from reading this, it's like it's almost common courtesy to participate in drinking culture in Korea 😮 yea, it was bold to assume of me that the drinking culture in Korea is taboo, thanks again for making that part clear to me, I truly appreciate that 💙
I wanted to ask then is there this pressure then that you must drink at these gatherings if a good majority of the party to be gel well then in south korea? (whether that be for work events or not)
@@soralution Yes, absolutely! But it's getting better. I'll write more later if I remember and find the time. Remind me, if I forget.
Just to add: Korea has quite an alcohol problem, since most other drugs are heavily criminalized. People are often 'forced' to join out of fear of losing their jobs, not getting promotions or just being kicked out of their friend groups and seeming 'uncool'. Also, many drink alone because they are depressed and mental help services are not readily available and struggling is seen as a burden to society.
I quite appreciate these new shows since they promote drinking only to socialize (not alone), the ability to say no and choose another beverage, and explain the origin of the culture together with promoting traditional alcohol and respectful consumption.
Some go overboard for the variety impact, but I think mostly it's good to get the topic to the surface and destigmatize it. They need to address this problem and if you can't talk about it, how can you deal with it and find a better way?
Hope this helped! 😉
I guess my “hot take” or whatever would be that if I don’t plan to see a group in concert or live at any time, I don’t care if they’re good live singers. If I’m only ever gonna listen to the studio version, and it sounds good, why should I care if it sounds terrible live? For example I love the studio versions of Smart and Easy but I’m not a fearnot and I won’t see le sserafim live so I honestly couldn’t care less about their “terrible vocals” allegation.
I wasn't in the video 😢
Confession: I was watching a music show on tv and there was a performance and yk those signs that come up that say Melon: and than the songs name? My mom thought the girl was named melon💀
i get the sentiment regarding wanting kep1ee girls getting fresh starts and it’s not me doubting them if anything i share the opinion of op somewhat because i too would be excited for them to get fresh starts like i can see them succeed personally but unfortunately with so many people doubting their post kep1er success i can’t help but be a bit scared for them, i really hope they can all prove us wrong one day. i totally agree with opinion 2, i won’t get too much into it but i personally just don’t enjoy drunkenness at all so that’s just me. also agree with opinion 3, okay they’re 19+, they’re adults that’s good but they’re not suddenly grown women they’re just barely adults and we can’t impose a sexy image on anyone no matter how old they are, perfect opportunity to promote kara who’s making a comeback soon stan my 2nd gen queens. 4 is so real. 5 i somewhat agree like i don’t necessarily care about every little “scandal” that aren’t actually scandals but like there are more serious ones that just make me uncomfortable supporting that artist i might not even enjoy their art. i really do love me some more britney spears influence on kpop. 7 awareness is the first step of solving an issue, maybe we’ll be able to overcome our biases and prejudice if we really just be honest with ourselves first.
Y2K is great but it’s dragging lets do something different 😒
Please do another
YAYYY
every group have main idol who become the main member who gain most fans its textbook blueprints and instead of having each member be invidual they look for identical individuals who resemble former idols and make them act similar to that on camera, they have to have a national bf or gf image to their fans cause hardly any of the clips i have seen seem normal its all to put a false hope that their fans can date these idols but the companies then use that one or two popular member and make them have certain image like why they doing with ateez san for exmple since he buffed up so much hes become basically sex symbol in ateez, yet with yeosang they didnt want him to buff up so they try to stop him from going to the gym so he could keep his prince innocent image. thats honestly so damaging to both their fans and the idols.
personally id rather like a group for their songs not because they have one or two popular members that are oversexualised or overly hyped up for their faces and bodies. theyre basically objects instead of person, they tell fans on their vlive stop following them, stop calling and stalking them but it dont do nothing and i wouldnt be surprised if other buff idols like changbin who also get oversexualised if fake influencers tried to hook up with them or meet them at hotels and so on. its crazy and i bet they got some stories that they cannot tell either.
Nice going with your opinions. Plus it’s ok if you didn’t read mine btw
YOU STAN LUCY NOW????? OMG WILL YOU MARRY ME????
i agree Mingyu is to hot to be only for women
To fight your fatphobic or otherwise harmful attitudes you definitely should surround yourself with other content where different people are included, not just kpop
Hey! It is very bioessentialist to say “brains only stop developing at 25”
Scientifically, it’s kinda incorrect, brains continue developing into your thirties. And it isn’t much different than people shifting the way they treat others as soon as they turn 18. People still have agency at 16, at 18, at 25, at 45, and the whole point of aging is that you learn and grow no matter how old you are. I think the mentality that you need some sort of marker of “maturity” or a turning point to start treating people differently is fueled by an ideal that people are more valuable at specific points in their lives, when they are at peak mental performance, physical capability, the smartest and strongest and “most attractive” they’ll ever be. I think we need to shift our mentalities more to consider that every person is always changing, learning, and growing, and capable of all of the above at any given time, no matter their age.
Unfortunately that's not true. There are certain things you can only do at certain times in your life. I agree with your agency point though.
WAIT planet minjae is not black??? i always thought you were 😭
He's Asian I think
XXL reminds me of "Insane in the Membrane" by Cypress Hill
Early y2k was cool and groovy and late y2k was crazy that’s true, but please don’t bring black eyed peas into kpop, it was already the case with late 1st and early 2nd gen groups and those are the songs that have aged the worst. Black Eyed Peas has also aged like milk under the sun.
Daft punk on the other hand I’d gladly accept.
Me the whole video:
Nah really! THATS SO TRUE exactlyyyyy
*pauses vid to talk to screen* i actually disagree on that....sike! Nah but me with mingi. Likeeeee
8:46 Homossexual persuasion??? LMFAO
Okay so here is mine...
EXO raised my standards for k-pop way, WAY high to the point I don't think anyone will be able to top them at all. First off not only do all the members look pretty damn awesome, but their discography is simply unmatched in K-pop for me. It doesn't even come close how great their songs are and how are they able to pull them off like no one else does. The album designs are simple yet creative in how they incorporate the group's logo into various objects or symbols. They are incredibly fun to watch on the stage and can pull off any look- be it from military uniforms all the way to onesies.
Oh and let's not forget about the vocals... Baekhyun, Chen and D.O. are without a doubt the best main vocal trio ever in K-pop.
And oh god their lore is very fun to play around, make fanfictions and so on.
It feels like they almost are real-life superheroes. This is a vibe I never have gotten from any group. EXO is simply perfect in every way in my opinion.
I don't like your new intro
Bring the old one with the instrumental of crush back!
What race are you ?
Kesha and pitbull are NOTTTTT Y2K 😭 those three letters don't mean anything anymore
Yeah like they’re 100% more 2010s. The only people on that list that are y2k are greenday and black eye peas