@@shanea-sr7942 Both companies sell their kits for 150/250 and E350s. Action Van sells drop down brackets for the I-Beams Camburg also sells a Drop down bracket system for the I-Beams. WeldTech Bends the Stock I-Beams Camburg does this as well. Camburg is the only one of the 3 Econoline Lift companies that sell both methods of lifting. I have no idea what WeldTec does in order to lift RVs but they do it and those kits are even more expensive then their Van Lift kits. From having both Action Van an Weldtec kits the WeldTec does offer more lift. They both ride better then stock. Still have to take my van off road to see how it does off road but that's where the Bent I-Beam kit supposedly shines. Even Camburg prefers to sell Bent Beams over Drop down bracket kits because they advertise it as so much better then the Drop down brackets. Which kit are you leaning towards more?
Sorry that your not 100% happy with your kit. We are using only the best parts and that is why this kit is pricey @$2700 for the #bajagrocerygetter with a $1000 + for the install + alignment then good Ole CA sales tax. If you only want to run a 265 tire we do offer a less expensive #ocotillocruiser 3" lift. I do appreciate your honesty and hope that this kit will prove over time it was worth the investment. If I can help at all please reach out to us. Thanks
I hope the video doesn't come off as I'm not happy. These videos are tricky to make. I'm giving my opinion on the point of view of a blue collar guy who has to grind and work 60 hour weeks to afford something like this. I even joke in one of my videos that my van is the Ugliest Crappiest Van that Weldtec has ever worked on. You guys work on some big buck builds and obviously a lot of your customers are wealthy. My channel is a blue collar channel focused on budget and my Honest Opinion is if you're going for looks $4400 is a lot of money and a cool look can be achieved for less. Even then some people don't have the means for the cheaper $2000 kits so I throw it out there that there's a cheap $300 leveling kit. I'm happy with the lift now that it's in it's nice. I noticed there's no one with this kit on youtube making off roading videos. I intend to take this off road when I get a rear locker and will make videos for people interested. The kit is really nice and I do my best to plug the fact that it looks really good and appears to be really high quality.
Thanks for putting this together! I JUST purchased a E150 from a city auction. (Could not find a e350) I only knew about WeldTec from their CZcams videos... However I will definitely check out Action Vans since that will allow me to possibly get some rear lockers within my budget...
Glad this video helped you out. If you go Action Van I would just get the base kit and none of the Extras to save money. Have you seen the Ford Parts one Kit? It's only a 2 inch lift up front but its way cheaper then these big lifts and you'll save a ton of money and definitely be able to get a locker too. Like I said in my video I wish I went Action Van and Locker at the same time. I think a van with a locker and no lift will do better on basic off road trails then a van with a lift and no locker. Of COurse I got the lift first because the car guy in e wants a cool looking ride. Here's a friend of mine with the FPO kit and 265 tires czcams.com/video/tllBkN_w1gU/video.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything Again awesome suggestions! Me being new to this Van stuff, your suggestions and insights are very helpful! I am planning to do a semi-minimalist build in order to keep the weight down where I can. I like your suggestion of doing the locker kit 1st since I recently got stuck on the beach in my bone stock van while beach camping... Let's just say I had to improvise to get myself unstuck... Getting the rear locker kit first should give me enough time to save up for the lift kit... I will probably go with the ARB locker kit (Cry once, Buy once)...
@@datguy2730 i want an eaton E-Locker. Once I get that I think this van will be pretty good for just being 2wd. I checked out your channel and saw that you had a Jeep. Are you going to be a van guy now? I recently picked up a Geo Tracker my plan is to tow it out to the desert in my van, sleep in my van and go off roading in my Tracker all day long when I wake up the next day. I use to take my first van build out here, Got stuck once. Once I get a Rear Locker for this current Van build I think this will be easy work for it. czcams.com/video/E2jdKT3p68g/video.html
Congrats on the van man! When I got my van lifted in 2021 with Weldtec they only wanted to install ARB Air Lockers. They quoted me at $4000. I ended up going to Action Van Suspension for my rear locker. They have more choices. In terms of lift kits as of 2024 Action Van Charges $3500 to install their kit and Weldtec is now $5200. Both are great lifts but I recommend Action Van because it's every bit as good as Weldtec. Here is my best video about Action Van Vs Weldtec. czcams.com/video/s0mHWFvNyVo/video.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything can't say I'm a big fan of the drop brackets or the lift blocks but I'm a working man so will have to see what the ot looks like this year.
@@jayabustan4097 That was me last year when I was saving. Had a Good run of OT. Custom Rear Springs for the rear lift would be nice but thats another $2000
As someone who has lifted lots of Ford twin I beam and twin traction beam suspensions, bent I beams are the way to go for anything but a street rig. Drop brackets are serious weak points on these Ford suspensions. That 2" lift isn't worth the $300 asking price at all. Even if you can get an acceptable static alignment on the truck using the balljoint cams, once the suspension starts moving caster & camber go right out the window.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I've installed Rancho, Tuff Country, Rough Country, Sky-Jacker and others on TTB Ford Rangers/Explorers, Broncos and F-150s for people. The results were always the same, constantly needing to retighten drop brackets and getting new alignments. I told every one of them it would be better for me to cut & turn their axles since it retains the short factory riveted in place pivot points, or to do a solid axle swap. Only a few listened because usually they had either already bought the kit, or simply couldn't wrap their head around why a C&T was better. On 2wd TIB Fords, it really is no different. Bending the beams and modifying the radius arms/radius arm brackets is simply the more reliable and robust way to go. Those 2" spacer lifts pose their own problems. There is only so far you can go with offset ball joint cams and due to tolerance stacking you may not even be able to get the camber within spec. Moving the beam down 2" only at the spring will also negatively effect caster because the radius arm pivot hasn't moved. Lastly, $300 for rear blocks/U-bolts you can get at Auto-Zone for $50 and front coil spacers is a rip-off. They don't even include the ball-joint cams.
"Better ride" marketing was compared to a stock van & not against Action Van. $4k I was able to get my lift, re-gear, steering stabilizers & lockers from Action Van. They also upgraded how my radius arms attaches to my chassis..
I definitely set my Expectations too high on the ride. I was expecting it to ride like my Dads Clolrado ZR2. Overall though I'm happy with it. I keep going outside to look at my Van lol. It does have more lift then the Action Van. But at $4400 you can get the Action Van Rear Gears and 285s and then you're riding as high as the Weldtec. What locker did you go with? I'm leaning towards the Detroit Truetrac
@@JohnDrivesAnything There's no way our vans would drive like your dads colorado, too heavy. I did 6inch lift and got Dana Spicer Track-lok, I got mine done on Nov 2017. I also had them install the Aluminess tire rack due to my big tire..
@@denz5085 The ZR2 option is also $10,000 over a normal Colorado so for $10,000 extra it better ride nice lol. I wonder how much the Shocks that Camburg uses will improve the ride camburg.com/shop/suspension/performance-suspension/camburg-ford-e-series-van-2wd-97-14-baja-performance-kit/ That being said even for a E350 it road nice stock. Love my road trips driving this Van and it's going to be even better now. Is your locker auto or selectable? I'm either going to get a Detroit Truetrac or E-Locker. Hopefully I get a decent tax return.
@@JohnDrivesAnything My locker is limited slip.. been taking it off road and it helped a lot. Even took it to Pismo, air it out to 15psi and floated the whole way. 4:10 re-gear is perfect as well.. towing 7k lbs on 5.4L engine from California to MT & WY without and issue.. yes i do have 285r 75 16 tires BfGoodrich KO2. Largest i can place without rubbing on my sliding door. Wish i have a barn door..
Love going to the desert so I'm really looking forward to my trips with this list. It was expensive but the extra lift does look cool. I keep going outside to look at my van lol. Now I have to figure out what locker I want lol
I had a Ford ranger years ago with twin ibeam with a auburn limited slip installed and it never let me down at the desert as long as you had plenty of momentum
@@autoglassmike Now that I have my lift now I'm day dreaming and reading on off roading lol My van has Load Range E tires and the recommended PSI is 60 front 80 back. What would you air it down too? I know what spots I want to go to in the Borrego Springs Area that I went too with my last van. The only extra challenge with this one is it weighs more and has 20 inches of extra length in the back
Not sure John on the E range tires but I used to run 33” bfg AT if I was on hard pack I would run like 22psi all round. If I was in the sand I would’ve low like 15-18 psi. I never had a tire bead come of. They were 15” rims back then
I like the look of this kit, but I really like the overall look of your older van build. The perfect marriage would be this kit on the older van, just my .02.
My Last Van did look cooler. I think the Standard Length Econoline has better proportions then the Extended. This Current build is all the mistakes I made from my last van fixed. This one has working Factory AC, all the power windows work, the back doors open, It has the most powerful engine you can get in a Econoline. I started this one knowing what I wanted to do vs fixing up a van with a lot of little things that didn't work. Now I need a freezer for it!
@@JohnDrivesAnything look on Amazon for a 12v compressor fridge, BougeRv makes a 53qt one for $350. 1 deep cycle battery and a 100watt solar panel and you can keep your food cold indefinitely.
@@656hookemhorns I'm giving these guys a shot. I can also do a honest review of it too. Seems like all the reviews I run into have been paid for by this company. Not too risky. Just can't drop the $1000 that the ARBs cost. Since I only road trip once a month and overnight in my van once a month hopefully it last me a while. Ordering one soon www.joytutus.com/collections/car-coolers/products/portable-refrigerator-fridge-electric-compressor-car-cooler-40l-42-quart
$4400 to lift the front 5.5 inches and a rear lift block only to lift the back around 3.5. The custom leaf springs are $2000 I believe if you don't like lift blocks for a rear lift. I actually have to replace the tie rod ends and ball joints soon. I should of did all that when I got the lift but $4400 is already a lot of money.
@@JohnDrivesAnything yeah ...I wish I had a good spot to take my Van apart n do mine. With a High top n Rack on mine it will be SKY Hi .....wondering if Just the 3inch Lift will be enough
@@dcarr3135 What are your intentions with the kit? Honestly I think a Rear Locker and no lift will get you further then a Lift and No locker. Like I said in the Video I should of saved money and got the Action Van Kit and a rear locker at the same time. I do like the cool looks and this is mostly for looks. My off roading spot is pretty mild. Have you looked into the Ford Parts one kit? 2 inch lift. Here's my friends video. I think it looks cool and you will save big bucks over the big lift kits. czcams.com/video/tllBkN_w1gU/video.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything just want it to have a little Off road look for.sand desert Beach...Not so sure I want the Big Money Lift although I like the Bent I Beams for suspension and Tire Alignment for over sized tires .....I want to Run 18" wheels on 33.or 34 inch tires if I Can and have a lift that is proportioned well and doesn't have a small wheel n tire look in a big lifted Van
@@JohnDrivesAnything got 7.3 idi 93 2wd and I love the Off road look with all these Van's. Just Got 1 1/2 spacers to play with Wheels but I would rather have Offset Wheels ....and yeah I am a workin man all my life as well and 20' rims and 35" tires which are about max on your lift are A LOT more money in a Tire .....so I like the Radius Arm extension to push front wheel forward (does Action Van have an Elongated Radius Arm ? ) .....and yeah these lifts are pricey ....as a back yard mechanic I could do the Lift myself just have to have a Place to Do it (vanlifesucksHAHA)
I was never unhappy with the ride. I just don't think it's much better then the Action Van Lifts ride quality and isn't worth the extra money over Action Van. I should of went with the Action Van and saved money so I can get a rear locker the same day I got the lift and been off roading the same weekend.
Lifted Vans are awesome. I'm starting a Enthusiast Van movement. Did a meet up a few months ago. I hope the Enthusiast van meet grows. 7 people are interested in joining the next one. Check it out czcams.com/video/gNX0-zo5kis/video.html
Just subscribed! I Like your lifted Vans; I didn’t know this was available for 2WD Vans, 2 months ago I purchased 1st E350 2008 Diesel 6.0(235Hp)., honestly I only got it cuz it has the 6.0 runs great SCT tune to F-series power 325+40hp. found newish weather guard shelves/bulkhead w/door/dual easy-loader ladder rack system, Then I noticed it actually had the engine replaced with an 05 motor (that sucks!!) But they did stud it! already, I’m not a really big fan of any gas engine with single or dual overhead cams, (mainly cuz I suck at changing those timing chains & phases lol) But I feel like those Diesel E350s are the best way to go, I actually went ahead and bought an other one 3 weeks ago 06 E350 with the absolute Nicest 6.0 PSD engine I’ve ever seen NO LEAKS at all! Everything is undisturbed every single bolt nut or screw was in its correct place! Like they didn’t even drive it! It’s so quite the entire van clean, super solid suspension & steering WAY better driver than my 1st one BUT it’s got CAnCER!! Substantial amounts of rust, many Service records on carfax mentioned it like it’s whole life from 06 to 22 In Michigan until I purchased it here in TX looking at this Van like wtf does this really happen to vehicles that fast! Rust! but it’s soooo Nice man interior 2, I don’t care I still got cuz right now I GOT VAN FEVER! why would you live in place that deliberately destroys your vehicles with road salts? How’s that V10 Drive ?? Is it good Acceleration I’m assuming? How many liters is the. V10 !
Vans are the way to go man. This channel has plenty of van content and there will be much more in the future. I want this to be the best van channel on youtube, The The motor in this van is a 6.8 V10. I think it's overlooked because of all the love the Powerstrokes get. So they are pretty cheap. I paid $6800 for my 1999 2 years ago with 104,000 miles on it. Power is great stock vs stock agains the 7.3 and 6.0 power strokes. 305 Horsepower and 420 Ftllbs torque. Here's some acceleration videos I made czcams.com/video/qiLDNlPDUGo/video.html czcams.com/video/2SHeoW5qPes/video.html
The Kit was expensive I don't think it was worth the Extra $1600 for an Extra 1.5 inches over the cheaper lift but it's in now and I think it's badass I keep going outside to look at my van lol
I too am considering a suspension lift kit. I’m leaning towards a 3 to 4 inch lift as I’m worried about it rolling in a hard turn situation. I’m curious if you think or feel it’ll flip more easily?
One of the things that surprised me most with both kits is it doesn't feel too much tippier then stock let's say you take one of those long freeway turns at 70 mph tone it down to 65.
Sorry your not 100% happy with the lift I think it still is bad ass But agree with your assessment I'm very picky myself so I understand your disappointment
It's a nice kit. Better then the Action Van but doesn't feel $1600 better then the Action Van. Just my honest opinion. It all come down to money $2800 vs $4400 is a big difference. if that $1600 gap is preventing someone from getting a lift kit they will not be disappointed with the Action Van. I shared that cheap 2 inch lift kit too because maybe $2800 is too much for some people and they'll be happy a leveling kit. If you want that Quigley look though you gotta at least roll with the Action. The leveling kit is barely noticeable only van fanatics will notice the slight lift. I had a lot of available overtime in 2020 so I was able to try out something different. I'm always happy to support aftermarkets that develop products for our vans. We are a small market.
The van sure does look great! And it did come with the Fox shocks too $$$ which my Camburg kit did not get..those are expensive which I’m going to order soon. Too bad Jeremy couldn’t of gave you a bit of a discount on the lift. I’m guessing you mentioned to them your a CZcamsr? I bet he’s gonna watch your videos because nobody besides them is making videos on their kits. He’s gonna get some advertising from you guaranteed. You have lifted 2 vans now you’re a wild man! I took the easy road and bought my van already lifted so the previous owner ate the cost mostly..
I should of emailed Action Van and showed them my Original video that has 30,000 views. I've even had around 10 people tell me they are going Action Van because of my video. I should of asked them for a discount since Weldtec is pretty much dominating now. I don't think Weldtec needs publicity. If I didn't get my lift done when I did the wait is now until June. They're kicking ass right now. It's funny when I was younger I was obsessed with speed. If this was 21 year old me I would of Supercharged my Z06 now here I am spending $4400 on a van lol. Seriously if I were only allowed to keep 1 vehicle it would be my van. Video topic right there! I keep going outside to look at my Van lol
@@JohnDrivesAnything so I’ve been thinking about when my lifted van obsession started.. Here it goes. In 2016 I was cruising Craigslist in my area for cool vans when a huge Ford e350 popped up for sale for only 10 grand 5 minutes from my home. I didn’t know 2 wheel drive lifted vans even existed. I thought wow a 4x4 van for cheap! It was a mint white e350 15 passenger van with a action van lift on 33” inch tires. Sadly Someone snagged it before me. I went home and started googling Action Vans and that’s how I ended up on your channel! I found my van 6 months later. Sorry for the long story lol!
@@holdfast4588 Van stories are never too long my friend. I was jealous of family and friends that had vans when I was a kid. My parents had a 1982 Corolla lol. So being an Adult I'm probably making up for some sort of pschological damage of not having a van when I was a kid. My dad would even borrow my cousins van to run errands in with me. I'll never forget it 1982 Ford Econoline. I have to find a picture of it my parents have it somewhere. When it comes to lifted Vans I remember years back Motorweek did a video on Quigleys and I wanted a 4x4 van but they're so expensive. So I discovered the Action Van lift and went that route years back . I was impressed how the Quigley dwarfed the Suburban. A lifted van is like having a treehouse and van at the same time lol. czcams.com/video/FvoXjppDPrE/video.html
Rear locker is very no h0m0 basically a 2 wheel drive vehicle is 1 wheel drive. One tires moving the over is spinning freely. So when you get stuck only 1 tire is moving and it's the one that has the least amount of traction. A rear locker allows both tires to move so you get traction in both tires and not just one. Very important for off roading.
If you want to lift your van and get that cool Quigley look you'll be happy with the Action Van or Weldec kit.
Is the weldtech more heavy duty then action van?
Im tryin to decide on lift kits 1600 is a big diff if theres no difference!!
@@shanea-sr7942 Both companies sell their kits for 150/250 and E350s.
Action Van sells drop down brackets for the I-Beams Camburg also sells a Drop down bracket system for the I-Beams.
WeldTech Bends the Stock I-Beams Camburg does this as well. Camburg is the only one of the 3 Econoline Lift companies that sell both methods of lifting.
I have no idea what WeldTec does in order to lift RVs but they do it and those kits are even more expensive then their Van Lift kits.
From having both Action Van an Weldtec kits the WeldTec does offer more lift. They both ride better then stock. Still have to take my van off road to see how it does off road but that's where the Bent I-Beam kit supposedly shines. Even Camburg prefers to sell Bent Beams over Drop down bracket kits because they advertise it as so much better then the Drop down brackets.
Which kit are you leaning towards more?
@@JohnDrivesAnything what about a e450 ?
@@alancontreras1362 Both Companies lift RVs so I'm pretty sure they can.
Sorry that your not 100% happy with your kit. We are using only the best parts and that is why this kit is pricey @$2700 for the #bajagrocerygetter with a $1000 + for the install + alignment then good Ole CA sales tax. If you only want to run a 265 tire we do offer a less expensive #ocotillocruiser 3" lift. I do appreciate your honesty and hope that this kit will prove over time it was worth the investment. If I can help at all please reach out to us. Thanks
I hope the video doesn't come off as I'm not happy. These videos are tricky to make. I'm giving my opinion on the point of view of a blue collar guy who has to grind and work 60 hour weeks to afford something like this. I even joke in one of my videos that my van is the Ugliest Crappiest Van that Weldtec has ever worked on.
You guys work on some big buck builds and obviously a lot of your customers are wealthy. My channel is a blue collar channel focused on budget and my Honest Opinion is if you're going for looks $4400 is a lot of money and a cool look can be achieved for less. Even then some people don't have the means for the cheaper $2000 kits so I throw it out there that there's a cheap $300 leveling kit.
I'm happy with the lift now that it's in it's nice. I noticed there's no one with this kit on youtube making off roading videos. I intend to take this off road when I get a rear locker and will make videos for people interested. The kit is really nice and I do my best to plug the fact that it looks really good and appears to be really high quality.
Action Van FTW
10:20 look at you, rhyming! 😄
lol I appreciate you stopping by in the comments. It helps my channel out a lot
Thanks for putting this together! I JUST purchased a E150 from a city auction. (Could not find a e350) I only knew about WeldTec from their CZcams videos... However I will definitely check out Action Vans since that will allow me to possibly get some rear lockers within my budget...
Glad this video helped you out. If you go Action Van I would just get the base kit and none of the Extras to save money.
Have you seen the Ford Parts one Kit? It's only a 2 inch lift up front but its way cheaper then these big lifts and you'll save a ton of money and definitely be able to get a locker too.
Like I said in my video I wish I went Action Van and Locker at the same time. I think a van with a locker and no lift will do better on basic off road trails then a van with a lift and no locker.
Of COurse I got the lift first because the car guy in e wants a cool looking ride.
Here's a friend of mine with the FPO kit and 265 tires czcams.com/video/tllBkN_w1gU/video.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything Again awesome suggestions! Me being new to this Van stuff, your suggestions and insights are very helpful! I am planning to do a semi-minimalist build in order to keep the weight down where I can. I like your suggestion of doing the locker kit 1st since I recently got stuck on the beach in my bone stock van while beach camping... Let's just say I had to improvise to get myself unstuck... Getting the rear locker kit first should give me enough time to save up for the lift kit... I will probably go with the ARB locker kit (Cry once, Buy once)...
@@datguy2730 i want an eaton E-Locker. Once I get that I think this van will be pretty good for just being 2wd. I checked out your channel and saw that you had a Jeep. Are you going to be a van guy now? I recently picked up a Geo Tracker my plan is to tow it out to the desert in my van, sleep in my van and go off roading in my Tracker all day long when I wake up the next day.
I use to take my first van build out here, Got stuck once. Once I get a Rear Locker for this current Van build I think this will be easy work for it.
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Cool video man. Thanks from a new e350 owner. What company would you go with for the rear locker? Thanks in advance !
Congrats on the van man! When I got my van lifted in 2021 with Weldtec they only wanted to install ARB Air Lockers. They quoted me at $4000. I ended up going to Action Van Suspension for my rear locker. They have more choices. In terms of lift kits as of 2024 Action Van Charges $3500 to install their kit and Weldtec is now $5200. Both are great lifts but I recommend Action Van because it's every bit as good as Weldtec. Here is my best video about Action Van Vs Weldtec.
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thanks for the vid I just got my van and have been repeatedly looking at the same 2 lifts.
Which lift are you going with? Congrats on the van man!
@@JohnDrivesAnything can't say I'm a big fan of the drop brackets or the lift blocks but I'm a working man so will have to see what the ot looks like this year.
@@jayabustan4097 That was me last year when I was saving. Had a Good run of OT. Custom Rear Springs for the rear lift would be nice but thats another $2000
It's like choosing between a cheap 1911 or a Kimber
Goid thought Mr king
As someone who has lifted lots of Ford twin I beam and twin traction beam suspensions, bent I beams are the way to go for anything but a street rig. Drop brackets are serious weak points on these Ford suspensions. That 2" lift isn't worth the $300 asking price at all. Even if you can get an acceptable static alignment on the truck using the balljoint cams, once the suspension starts moving caster & camber go right out the window.
Appreciate your insight. I'll get this on some basic trails hopefully by the end of the year. Which lift kits have you worked with it?
@@JohnDrivesAnything I've installed Rancho, Tuff Country, Rough Country, Sky-Jacker and others on TTB Ford Rangers/Explorers, Broncos and F-150s for people. The results were always the same, constantly needing to retighten drop brackets and getting new alignments. I told every one of them it would be better for me to cut & turn their axles since it retains the short factory riveted in place pivot points, or to do a solid axle swap. Only a few listened because usually they had either already bought the kit, or simply couldn't wrap their head around why a C&T was better.
On 2wd TIB Fords, it really is no different. Bending the beams and modifying the radius arms/radius arm brackets is simply the more reliable and robust way to go.
Those 2" spacer lifts pose their own problems. There is only so far you can go with offset ball joint cams and due to tolerance stacking you may not even be able to get the camber within spec. Moving the beam down 2" only at the spring will also negatively effect caster because the radius arm pivot hasn't moved. Lastly, $300 for rear blocks/U-bolts you can get at Auto-Zone for $50 and front coil spacers is a rip-off. They don't even include the ball-joint cams.
"Better ride" marketing was compared to a stock van & not against Action Van. $4k I was able to get my lift, re-gear, steering stabilizers & lockers from Action Van. They also upgraded how my radius arms attaches to my chassis..
I definitely set my Expectations too high on the ride. I was expecting it to ride like my Dads Clolrado ZR2.
Overall though I'm happy with it. I keep going outside to look at my Van lol. It does have more lift then the Action Van. But at $4400 you can get the Action Van Rear Gears and 285s and then you're riding as high as the Weldtec.
What locker did you go with? I'm leaning towards the Detroit Truetrac
@@JohnDrivesAnything There's no way our vans would drive like your dads colorado, too heavy. I did 6inch lift and got Dana Spicer Track-lok, I got mine done on Nov 2017. I also had them install the Aluminess tire rack due to my big tire..
@@denz5085 The ZR2 option is also $10,000 over a normal Colorado so for $10,000 extra it better ride nice lol. I wonder how much the Shocks that Camburg uses will improve the ride camburg.com/shop/suspension/performance-suspension/camburg-ford-e-series-van-2wd-97-14-baja-performance-kit/
That being said even for a E350 it road nice stock. Love my road trips driving this Van and it's going to be even better now.
Is your locker auto or selectable? I'm either going to get a Detroit Truetrac or E-Locker. Hopefully I get a decent tax return.
@@JohnDrivesAnything My locker is limited slip.. been taking it off road and it helped a lot. Even took it to Pismo, air it out to 15psi and floated the whole way. 4:10 re-gear is perfect as well.. towing 7k lbs on 5.4L engine from California to MT & WY without and issue.. yes i do have 285r 75 16 tires BfGoodrich KO2. Largest i can place without rubbing on my sliding door. Wish i have a barn door..
@@denz5085 Are you running load range Es? Are you still doing the 60 psi Front 80 rear?
I was wondering what PSI I should go with with load Range Es
Looks good I think you made the right choice. You will really appreciate the weldtech when you hit the trails it’s a good setup
Love going to the desert so I'm really looking forward to my trips with this list. It was expensive but the extra lift does look cool. I keep going outside to look at my van lol. Now I have to figure out what locker I want lol
I had a Ford ranger years ago with twin ibeam with a auburn limited slip installed and it never let me down at the desert as long as you had plenty of momentum
@@autoglassmike Now that I have my lift now I'm day dreaming and reading on off roading lol
My van has Load Range E tires and the recommended PSI is 60 front 80 back. What would you air it down too? I know what spots I want to go to in the Borrego Springs Area that I went too with my last van. The only extra challenge with this one is it weighs more and has 20 inches of extra length in the back
Not sure John on the E range tires but I used to run 33” bfg AT if I was on hard pack I would run like 22psi all round. If I was in the sand I would’ve low like 15-18 psi. I never had a tire bead come of. They were 15” rims back then
There is no comparison between the action van and weldtec lifts. If you actually use your van off-road the weldtec kit is the way to go!
Once I get a rear locker I'm taking this out to the desert like I did with my last van. I look forward in seeing how it does off road
Cool custom plates
I like the look of this kit, but I really like the overall look of your older van build. The perfect marriage would be this kit on the older van, just my .02.
My Last Van did look cooler. I think the Standard Length Econoline has better proportions then the Extended.
This Current build is all the mistakes I made from my last van fixed. This one has working Factory AC, all the power windows work, the back doors open, It has the most powerful engine you can get in a Econoline. I started this one knowing what I wanted to do vs fixing up a van with a lot of little things that didn't work. Now I need a freezer for it!
@@JohnDrivesAnything look on Amazon for a 12v compressor fridge, BougeRv makes a 53qt one for $350. 1 deep cycle battery and a 100watt solar panel and you can keep your food cold indefinitely.
@@656hookemhorns I'm giving these guys a shot. I can also do a honest review of it too. Seems like all the reviews I run into have been paid for by this company. Not too risky. Just can't drop the $1000 that the ARBs cost. Since I only road trip once a month and overnight in my van once a month hopefully it last me a while. Ordering one soon
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Did they Do Ball joints Or anything for $4400.00 ? .and was this with New Rear Springs as Well ? I been lookin at the lifts for a while
$4400 to lift the front 5.5 inches and a rear lift block only to lift the back around 3.5. The custom leaf springs are $2000 I believe if you don't like lift blocks for a rear lift. I actually have to replace the tie rod ends and ball joints soon. I should of did all that when I got the lift but $4400 is already a lot of money.
@@JohnDrivesAnything yeah ...I wish I had a good spot to take my Van apart n do mine. With a High top n Rack on mine it will be SKY Hi .....wondering if Just the 3inch Lift will be enough
@@dcarr3135 What are your intentions with the kit? Honestly I think a Rear Locker and no lift will get you further then a Lift and No locker. Like I said in the Video I should of saved money and got the Action Van Kit and a rear locker at the same time. I do like the cool looks and this is mostly for looks. My off roading spot is pretty mild.
Have you looked into the Ford Parts one kit? 2 inch lift. Here's my friends video. I think it looks cool and you will save big bucks over the big lift kits.
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@@JohnDrivesAnything just want it to have a little Off road look for.sand desert Beach...Not so sure I want the Big Money Lift although I like the Bent I Beams for suspension and Tire Alignment for over sized tires .....I want to Run 18" wheels on 33.or 34 inch tires if I Can and have a lift that is proportioned well and doesn't have a small wheel n tire look in a big lifted Van
@@JohnDrivesAnything got 7.3 idi 93 2wd and I love the Off road look with all these Van's. Just Got 1 1/2 spacers to play with Wheels but I would rather have Offset Wheels ....and yeah I am a workin man all my life as well and 20' rims and 35" tires which are about max on your lift are A LOT more money in a Tire .....so I like the Radius Arm extension to push front wheel forward (does Action Van have an Elongated Radius Arm ? ) .....and yeah these lifts are pricey ....as a back yard mechanic I could do the Lift myself just have to have a Place to Do it (vanlifesucksHAHA)
Are you happy with the ride now?
I was never unhappy with the ride. I just don't think it's much better then the Action Van Lifts ride quality and isn't worth the extra money over Action Van. I should of went with the Action Van and saved money so I can get a rear locker the same day I got the lift and been off roading the same weekend.
that looks great,
Lifted Vans are awesome. I'm starting a Enthusiast Van movement. Did a meet up a few months ago. I hope the Enthusiast van meet grows. 7 people are interested in joining the next one. Check it out czcams.com/video/gNX0-zo5kis/video.html
Just subscribed! I Like your lifted Vans; I didn’t know this was available for 2WD Vans, 2 months ago I purchased 1st E350 2008 Diesel 6.0(235Hp)., honestly I only got it cuz it has the 6.0 runs great SCT tune to F-series power 325+40hp. found newish weather guard shelves/bulkhead w/door/dual easy-loader ladder rack system, Then I noticed it actually had the engine replaced with an 05 motor (that sucks!!) But they did stud it! already, I’m not a really big fan of any gas engine with single or dual overhead cams, (mainly cuz I suck at changing those timing chains & phases lol) But I feel like those Diesel E350s are the best way to go, I actually went ahead and bought an other one 3 weeks ago 06 E350 with the absolute Nicest 6.0 PSD engine I’ve ever seen NO LEAKS at all! Everything is undisturbed every single bolt nut or screw was in its correct place! Like they didn’t even drive it! It’s so quite the entire van clean, super solid suspension & steering WAY better driver than my 1st one BUT it’s got CAnCER!! Substantial amounts of rust, many Service records on carfax mentioned it like it’s whole life from 06 to 22 In Michigan until I purchased it here in TX looking at this Van like wtf does this really happen to vehicles that fast! Rust! but it’s soooo Nice man interior 2, I don’t care I still got cuz right now I GOT VAN FEVER! why would you live in place that deliberately destroys your vehicles with road salts? How’s that V10 Drive ?? Is it good Acceleration I’m assuming? How many liters is the. V10 !
Vans are the way to go man. This channel has plenty of van content and there will be much more in the future. I want this to be the best van channel on youtube, The The motor in this van is a 6.8 V10. I think it's overlooked because of all the love the Powerstrokes get. So they are pretty cheap. I paid $6800 for my 1999 2 years ago with 104,000 miles on it. Power is great stock vs stock agains the 7.3 and 6.0 power strokes. 305 Horsepower and 420 Ftllbs torque. Here's some acceleration videos I made
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I think the van looks awesome John
The Kit was expensive I don't think it was worth the Extra $1600 for an Extra 1.5 inches over the cheaper lift but it's in now and I think it's badass I keep going outside to look at my van lol
@@JohnDrivesAnything I'm sure it will be worth it if you ever go on super bumpy rocky roads though
You already have my sub
I too am considering a suspension lift kit. I’m leaning towards a 3 to 4 inch lift as I’m worried about it rolling in a hard turn situation. I’m curious if you think or feel it’ll flip more easily?
One of the things that surprised me most with both kits is it doesn't feel too much tippier then stock let's say you take one of those long freeway turns at 70 mph tone it down to 65.
Sorry your not 100% happy with the lift
I think it still is bad ass
But agree with your assessment
I'm very picky myself so I understand your disappointment
It's a nice kit. Better then the Action Van but doesn't feel $1600 better then the Action Van. Just my honest opinion. It all come down to money $2800 vs $4400 is a big difference. if that $1600 gap is preventing someone from getting a lift kit they will not be disappointed with the Action Van. I shared that cheap 2 inch lift kit too because maybe $2800 is too much for some people and they'll be happy a leveling kit. If you want that Quigley look though you gotta at least roll with the Action. The leveling kit is barely noticeable only van fanatics will notice the slight lift.
I had a lot of available overtime in 2020 so I was able to try out something different. I'm always happy to support aftermarkets that develop products for our vans. We are a small market.
The van sure does look great! And it did come with the Fox shocks too $$$ which my Camburg kit did not get..those are expensive which I’m going to order soon.
Too bad Jeremy couldn’t of gave you a bit of a discount on the lift. I’m guessing you mentioned to them your a CZcamsr? I bet he’s gonna watch your videos because nobody besides them is making videos on their kits.
He’s gonna get some advertising from you guaranteed.
You have lifted 2 vans now you’re a wild man! I took the easy road and bought my van already lifted so the previous owner ate the cost mostly..
I should of emailed Action Van and showed them my Original video that has 30,000 views. I've even had around 10 people tell me they are going Action Van because of my video. I should of asked them for a discount since Weldtec is pretty much dominating now. I don't think Weldtec needs publicity. If I didn't get my lift done when I did the wait is now until June. They're kicking ass right now.
It's funny when I was younger I was obsessed with speed. If this was 21 year old me I would of Supercharged my Z06 now here I am spending $4400 on a van lol. Seriously if I were only allowed to keep 1 vehicle it would be my van. Video topic right there!
I keep going outside to look at my Van lol
@@JohnDrivesAnything so I’ve been thinking about when my lifted van obsession started..
Here it goes.
In 2016 I was cruising Craigslist in my area for cool vans when a huge Ford e350 popped up for sale for only 10 grand 5 minutes from my home. I didn’t know 2 wheel drive lifted vans even existed. I thought wow a 4x4 van for cheap! It was a mint white e350 15 passenger van with a action van lift on 33” inch tires. Sadly Someone snagged it before me. I went home and started googling Action Vans and that’s how I ended up on your channel! I found my van 6 months later.
Sorry for the long story lol!
@@holdfast4588 Van stories are never too long my friend. I was jealous of family and friends that had vans when I was a kid. My parents had a 1982 Corolla lol.
So being an Adult I'm probably making up for some sort of pschological damage of not having a van when I was a kid. My dad would even borrow my cousins van to run errands in with me. I'll never forget it 1982 Ford Econoline. I have to find a picture of it my parents have it somewhere.
When it comes to lifted Vans I remember years back Motorweek did a video on Quigleys and I wanted a 4x4 van but they're so expensive. So I discovered the Action Van lift and went that route years back . I was impressed how the Quigley dwarfed the Suburban. A lifted van is like having a treehouse and van at the same time lol.
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Now give it the ATeam paint
What's a rear locker, is that something no homo?
Rear locker is very no h0m0 basically a 2 wheel drive vehicle is 1 wheel drive. One tires moving the over is spinning freely. So when you get stuck only 1 tire is moving and it's the one that has the least amount of traction. A rear locker allows both tires to move so you get traction in both tires and not just one. Very important for off roading.
@@JohnDrivesAnything ah o.k. sounds like a good thing to have
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where did you get your bull rack??
Off Road Warehouse