This is What Happens to Victims of Narcissistic Abuse

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • In today's video Jill explains how the extremes of Narcissistic Abuse and Parental Alienation change a person.
    Jill Wise, otherwise known as The Enlightened Target, is a life long survivor of narcissistic abuse. She was raised by a malignant narcissist and married to a malignant narcissist, she has endured years of parental alienation, has repeatedly been targeted by narcissists throughout her life. She has an intimate understanding of all aspects of narcissistic abuse and Cptsd. She uses her experience and what she has learned to help educate others and bring awareness to narcissistic abuse. She is also a Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Coach and works with clients all over the world heal from the trauma of narcissistic abuse, parental alienation and Complex Ptsd.
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Komentáře • 394

  • @sunnydaye5942
    @sunnydaye5942 Před rokem +431

    Never never underestimate your safety. A narcissist wants you 6 feet under. Doesn't matter who you are to them, spouse, son, daughter doesn't matter.

    • @douglasr8036
      @douglasr8036 Před rokem

      Of course and if they succeed, they suck all the narcissistic supply they can from your death with no one the wiser. Sickening.

    • @fifilafleur5555
      @fifilafleur5555 Před rokem +66

      Yes, I have learned this the hard way. First I developed life threatening high blood pressure... and now metastatic stage 4 cancer. Our life can literally be lost to these monsters after years of isolation, smear campaigns & vicious abuse.

    • @carolovesteven
      @carolovesteven Před rokem +33

      @@fifilafleur5555seek Jesus. I’ll pray for you. ✨♥️✨

    • @donnabrockway8545
      @donnabrockway8545 Před rokem +9

      😢

    • @donnabrockway8545
      @donnabrockway8545 Před rokem +52

      CORTISOL LEVELS SKYROCKET AROUND THEM😮

  • @lauragadille3384
    @lauragadille3384 Před rokem +173

    I miss myself before the narcissistic abuse I went through

    • @LucieSalat
      @LucieSalat Před rokem +13

      Yes, and me! But we still remember ❤

    • @rhettwalker4491
      @rhettwalker4491 Před 10 měsíci +4

      They’ll come back but stronger

    • @soniaprovard8259
      @soniaprovard8259 Před 9 měsíci +2

      So do I. Today is Thanksgiving and I honestly wonder how I’ve made it this far. I feel like the last 6 years spent alone in this healing has taken it’s toll. I’m still alone even though I have 4 grown children & 3 grandchildren. I worked at my crumby job the whole week having the flu. Here I am alone & wondering if I ‘ll be homeless in the next 2 months. My ex-narc destroyed the family that we had & smeared me in the process. Even on the rare occasions that I see 2 out of the 4 kids, it’s tense & awkward & I feel like I’m on borrowed time. I am losing hope that things are going to get better. Please pray for me & I will pray that God shows all of us his Grace & Mercy this holiday season!🙏🏻🥰

    • @ΜΑΡΙΑΠΑΠΑΔΟΠΟΥΛΟΥ-π7ω
      @ΜΑΡΙΑΠΑΠΑΔΟΠΟΥΛΟΥ-π7ω Před 9 měsíci +2

      Me too !!!
      That's what I keep saying !
      Stay strong !❤

    • @samm4637
      @samm4637 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Me too. It really changes you.

  • @naveedrehman2987
    @naveedrehman2987 Před rokem +54

    I could never have imagined someone I “loved” and would have died for in a heartbeat would be so evil or cruel.

    • @MB-tr8sq
      @MB-tr8sq Před 5 měsíci

      Yes, amazing, isn’t it? I would love to talk to you. I had a cousin I thought of a a sister. Then after my mid 60’s she really started to be downright cruel, mean & distant. Someone else said “no sense in telling anyone as it sounds unbelievable”. THAT is for sure. You are left flabbergasted, and almost in a state of shock!! There is no logical explanation for what they’ve done, none at all. IF you even TRY to get an answer it gets even worse. Oh YES, THIS IS EVIL....that you can BELIEVE for sure. CRUEL& dispicable. You are left totally bewildered. Then you must pick up the pieces and find a way to move on. I did it w/ the help of God and wonderful videos on youtube like JILL’S. It all helped me to realize I WAS NOT CRAZY.....NOT AT ALL. I had just been a victim of a very evil creature. Victim NO MORE !! FREE as a bird now. Once you begin to sort it all out.....be glad to be RID OF THEM !! Life can be so good again. IT TAKES TIME TO HEAL FROM THESE DEMONIC EXPERIENCES, BUT IT IS WONDERFUL as time passes and you live your best life, get closer to God and have these 😢 demons OUT of your life. NO CONTACT IS BEST.That way you can move on easily. I KNOW they can really shock you w/ their demonic shocking behavior, THAT is why you MUST stay away.THEIR MISSION IS TO ULTIMATELY DESTROY YOU !! You need to face that and then get FAR AWAY !! Best Wishes for your healing & Happiness.😊

  • @candywilkins386
    @candywilkins386 Před rokem +207

    Went through this through my ex husband of 31 years my divorce lawyer and narc dad and now living with my narrist mom. They are everywhere! Once you see it ,it can't be unseen!

    • @confusedwhynot
      @confusedwhynot Před rokem +14

      I have been married 33 years. I am trying to work through so much. I am sure it will end in divorce. I can't trust his family because they are narcissistic. I am trying to move forward, but he is very controlling.

    • @donnabrockway8545
      @donnabrockway8545 Před rokem +4

      SO TRUE😢

    • @wayneelliott1180
      @wayneelliott1180 Před rokem +5

      Yes, seeing it is like an avalanche of realisation. The variety of abuse is brutally clear.

    • @Richard-vq7ud
      @Richard-vq7ud Před rokem +5

      My narc brother has both deep enmeshment and rage with his mother. After her death he turned it all on me. I found out she tricked me in inheritance. I think she caused all this. It is causing me so much pain and nightmares.

    • @wandarask8444
      @wandarask8444 Před rokem +9

      Candy, 31 years if you can go through that imagine what you can conquer now, and to love yourself in ways you never thought possible.
      Love from Australia

  • @fifilafleur5555
    @fifilafleur5555 Před rokem +61

    I remember reading somewhere that once you can identify a narcissist, you are one step closer to identifying a psychopath. That has stayed with me for years. Depending upon where your narcissist lies on the spectrum.

  • @elizabethd.2398
    @elizabethd.2398 Před rokem +122

    Yep. I’m a caregiver and provide home care to the elderly. About a month ago, one of my client’s caregivers (who is a narcissist) got in my face about the client’s medications. I told her very calmly that I didn’t need that in my life and that I was going to contact the client’s daughter. The next thing I knew, she was on the phone with the client’s daughter shouting that I was being “nasty” to her and proclaiming her victimhood. I wasn’t shocked at all - as I’ve come to expect this type of behavior from disordered people. When the client’s daughter telephoned me, I told her that I wouldn’t take any more of this caregiver’s drama and wanted that day to be my last day working for her mother. When I left the client’s house that evening, I was so happy to know that I would never have to deal with that narcissist again. It really felt great to be in the driver’s seat.

    • @maggiesalle2256
      @maggiesalle2256 Před rokem +19

      Congratulations on your courage!

    • @flightydancer
      @flightydancer Před rokem +7

      Well done! Stand up for yourself. Self respect is #1.

    • @allieeverett9017
      @allieeverett9017 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Good for you! I am currently a caregiver for a covert narc, husband is a malignant overt narc. I'm coming up on a year of service, but may not make it. They are scary.

    • @stephaniefrady7690
      @stephaniefrady7690 Před 3 měsíci

      I became my mother's caregiver from the time I was 27 till I was 40 I didn't even think twice about assuming the role of her caregiver it was just an instant reaction she was my best friend but she became a narcissist and she destroyed me. I have fully forgiven her and would do it all over again knowing what I went through. And she been passed away now for 5yrs and like I said I have fully forgiven her whole heartedly but when does it stop being painful?

    • @Wellness_Rose
      @Wellness_Rose Před 2 dny

      You would do it all over again? Do you think there was a level of Stockholm Syndrome? That's good you've forgiven. I've gone completely no contact with my entire family. I'm working on forgiveness. I know we don't need to reconcile to forgive.

  • @laura-2
    @laura-2 Před rokem +179

    Being with my ex narc for the past 6 yrs. made me observe this very pattern. I think they wanted to feel very important in a way that is disturbing. Instead of building trust with their intimate partners, they destroy the trust that they built with you (in that case lying when they tried to put you in their pedestal). Once they have a committed partner, they can’t stand being loved authentically by one person. Instead they go on and prey on other women that is susceptible to their love bombing. My ex narc was a compulsive pursuer in a relationship. He would go back and forth to the women he were involved before or try to meet women in complicated situation so that going public isn’t an option while having you as their main supply. In the end they destroy the very person that loved them. They are like toddlers testing your love for them. Showing and telling them you love them isn’t enough, they will cheat on your face to make you feel inadequate even if you are more than they deserve. They want to test your love for them so they keep hurting you and when you have enough of their abuse, you leave. Then they tell you, ‘you never loved me because you abandon me’. Well in fact it’s their actions and narcissistic behavior that made you leave or in other cases they discard you and will give silly reasons of the discard. Mine would use, ‘she’s crazy’, ‘she’s a nega-star’, ‘she insults me’, ‘she cheated on me’ et al. So with this pattern of infidelities and emotional abuse (who knows what else) it’s better to walk away. I did walk away and is now rebuilding my life with our daughter. We are struggling financially because I’m not earning enough to provide for my daughter but now we get to laugh and bring with us sunshine every day. No lies, no abuse and no fake love. We only live once, forgive yourself and move forward but never forget the lesson that narc abuse taught you. That is to respect yourself to walk away from what’s hurting and destroying you. That you deserve a life of solitude, happiness and love. Hugs*** :) Additionally I hired a private detective Metaspyhub@gmail. com. Once I knew what the narc was up to, it got easier to get over that lying, cheating, sack of doo doo, loser. I didn’t need closure from the narc, I paid for it. Best money I EVER spent!

    • @taranuzum8428
      @taranuzum8428 Před rokem +3

      Just out of curiosity how much does something like that cost? Asking for a friend ;)

    • @laura-2
      @laura-2 Před rokem

      @@taranuzum8428 it cost $150.

    • @orsumbunnygottahelp
      @orsumbunnygottahelp Před 6 měsíci

      Yes the go against the "Napp" on every level in life

  • @wayneelliott1180
    @wayneelliott1180 Před rokem +105

    The smear campaign is vicious and utterly destructive. Commiserations to those suffering that evil, you are not alone.

    • @keithbarbaro7590
      @keithbarbaro7590 Před rokem +6

      Most narcs have no credibility. No one normal takes them seriously.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před rokem +20

      ​@@keithbarbaro7590 I know plenty of narcs who know how to play their cards right in front of decent people and remain lifelong friends.

    • @wayneelliott1180
      @wayneelliott1180 Před rokem +3

      @Jon Doe Stay safe and all power to you in your endeavour.

    • @coldpotatoes2556
      @coldpotatoes2556 Před rokem +13

      @@SamStone1964 so do I, if narcissists had no persuasion power there would be no such thing as the term: ‘flying monkeys’.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před rokem +19

      @@coldpotatoes2556 Yes the most malignant narcissists I know have the largest network of friends and supporters. They could put a call out for help on Facebook and within an hour have dozens of helpers. Meanwhile those of us who don't use social media and have been beaten down by malignant narcissists will have no support.

  • @_Renee2
    @_Renee2 Před rokem +137

    I definitely suffer from trust issues. If your own mother can cause you so much harm and heartbreak all whilst smiling in your face, only to fly into a rage when her lies and deceit are exposed will leave you questioning everyone you encounter.

    • @LucieSalat
      @LucieSalat Před rokem +9

      That's so sad Renee. Thinking of you xx

    • @timmarinelli2962
      @timmarinelli2962 Před rokem +6

      Yepp, add on being a true targeted individual and you got yourself a literal hell of a life. Praise Jesus Christ!

    • @myselfidontagreewithyourse6306
    • @grantdoby8546
      @grantdoby8546 Před rokem +4

      I’m with you sister I know it’s hard, keep going though because your resilience and perseverance will make you the woman you were made to be. Getting proper healing and getting closer to God in relationship is a must.

    • @pabo8080
      @pabo8080 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Well said, can relate %100. Makes me physically ill

  • @stefaniejean8148
    @stefaniejean8148 Před rokem +147

    That is absolutely correct. I definitely have lost the urge to try to tell my side of the story. Those who sided with the narcissist wouldn’t believe me, and the people who don’t understand this abuse would think I was telling a very far fetched story. I mean, just thinking about retelling things that’s happened, I get exhausted because I have no idea how to even start!!

    • @scorpio-interrupted3516
      @scorpio-interrupted3516 Před rokem +18

      Exactly! And it’s impossible to explain to a lawyer and/or a judge.

    • @franksimmons9242
      @franksimmons9242 Před rokem +22

      This is true because some of the things they did was unspeakable and unthinkable. Unbelievable. Too disgusting to repeat.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před rokem +15

      ​And the lawyer may well be a narcissist and side with the narcissist even if they are supposed to oppose them.

    • @franksimmons9242
      @franksimmons9242 Před rokem +12

      @@SamStone1964 this happened when the ex went to counseling with me. She flipped him in a heartbeat.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před rokem +11

      @@franksimmons9242 This happened to me when the legal people were supposed to block a family member and instead gave him what wasn't his.

  • @caralee2617
    @caralee2617 Před rokem +131

    When I was around my ex narc the last few weeks, knowing I was about to boot his ass out for the 2nd and final time, I treated him exactly the way he treated me. I looked him right in the eyes and smiled sweetly and lied like a dog about where I was going and what I was doing. I lied about anything and everything-just like he did to me for nearly a year. I laughed and pretended everything was wonderful, as if I were completely fooled by his continuous bullshit shenanigans. I told him I loved him and pretended all was right with the world. When he disappeared or ghosted me, I couldn’t have cared less. I disappeared and ghosted him right back, later giving him BS excuses, just as he always did with me. I told everyone we knew (except his minions) every detail of the abusive things he had done to me for many months and exactly what I was doing to him in return. I knew when he was lying to me but he had no idea that I was lying to him at the end. He still doesn’t know. He just couldn’t imagine that someone as sweet as I, whom he thought was right under his thumb and always madly in love, believing every word he uttered, could possibly be deceitful with him. HA! It was satisfying because he deserved it. He deserved far worse than the little bit I dished out in retaliation. It’s enough that I, and our mutual friends, know the truth. Now, he’s history and has been for almost 6 months. Blocked and deleted everywhere. When I see him in public, I don’t look at him. He speaks and I don’t acknowledge he’s alive. F*** him. Sometimes narcs pick the wrong Empath to mess with. Moreover, I was able to track all phone activities using Metaspyhub@gmail. com Totally untraceable, cheap, and anonymous.

    • @myselfidontagreewithyourse6306
      @myselfidontagreewithyourse6306 Před rokem +6

      So you became what you despised....how is that a win? Now you're a stalker on top of a narcissist.... that's not something to be proud of? Why would you willingly become what you despise?

    • @user-vt9kd4no8j
      @user-vt9kd4no8j Před 7 měsíci +1

      TY this is fantastic… just like the him! 👍

    • @qeytmyok2473
      @qeytmyok2473 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@myselfidontagreewithyourse6306she is doing that only to him ..I suppose..not to others...paying hin back in his own coin ..that is sweet ...that requires lots of planning, daring
      and courage.which mist of us lack ...so good luck to her .wish i too could do the same to the narcissistic female in my life

  • @madelynsage8728
    @madelynsage8728 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Narcissists will definitely show you who your true friends are!

  • @justangelzaragoza
    @justangelzaragoza Před rokem +35

    they like to convince you that your mind isn't your own, but it is, that's why you actively seek help and try to find a way out when it happens

  • @annabanzon313
    @annabanzon313 Před rokem +12

    I have found that I'm not willing to tolerate any more abuse. I find myself less committed to being loyal to anyone or anything.

  • @courtneymeyers82
    @courtneymeyers82 Před rokem +47

    The pain, it doesn't ever go away completely. Narcissists wound you to your very core, oh and how they do love to twist that knife. You're left with buried thick scars, that flare up and become inflamed at times
    PTSD, the older you get, the more and longer the remissions but it doesn't ever go completely away
    Thank God for people like you to help guide us and steer us away from these evil people

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 Před rokem +2

      So,,, basically ruined as a human being…

    • @MARLA116
      @MARLA116 Před rokem +13

      ​@Michael Garrow
      Wounded but not ruined. ❤

    • @danaguilbeau5857
      @danaguilbeau5857 Před rokem +2

      ❤you right

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 Před rokem +1

      ​@@michaelgarrow3239, you wouldn't be a little bit narcy yourself, would you, Mikey?

    • @LR-yu3mx
      @LR-yu3mx Před rokem +1

      Jill's is the best videos that I have come accross in 3 years I am on this platform, about my life struggle with narcissists!
      I do not miss any of her's!

  • @truth8027
    @truth8027 Před rokem +24

    Some of us are blessed to be alive to day to watch these videos. Many died with out understanding what they were going through. It took me years to get this knowledge. I held on to The Lord Jesus Christ and He kept me alive and He made sure that I got this knowledge. All I can say is thank You Lord. I knew something was wrong but I had no words to explain what was happening to me. Abuse was normal. I didn’t know anything about healthy relationships, had never even heard of it. The worse thing that could have happened to me was dying without understanding what happened to me. You know something is not right but you just can’t put your finger on it. I never knew that something like this existed and it had a name and it could be explained and yet I was experiencing it. I didn’t have the education but I do now.

    • @danmcdonald8522
      @danmcdonald8522 Před rokem +4

      Excellent comment. You are a Warrior and a survivor. The torture and pain of narc abuse is unbelievable. How these creatures try to destroy good kind people is not normal. STAY AWAY. HEAL. Enjoy your life again. God bless.

    • @orsumbunnygottahelp
      @orsumbunnygottahelp Před 6 měsíci

      AND happy for you too...Just goes to show you...this is a spiritual warfare...it is those beings are demons out here to destroy lie and kill whatever they will and can.....God is real His son does in the cross We are forgiven We are made new and We sister have a d situation that is way far beyond anybody comprehension and the biggest thing about it all is that WE AM HAVE ETERNAL KIFE WHEN WE GET THETRE....the battle has. ALLREADY been won and your salvation has been bought with the blood of Jesus Sanctified and trusted unto the Lord Jesus Christ! That's why there is such a battle over you...everyone else subsequently are not a threat to HELL....SOME OF USA ARE...I've never been one to keep mouth shut about the Lord ...and I will say and talk about the Lord anytime....

  • @navydogsadventures3500
    @navydogsadventures3500 Před rokem +40

    I feel like a psychologist the way I analyze what people say anymore. They really mess with our heads.

  • @Tammissa
    @Tammissa Před rokem +34

    Omg, YES! YES! Thank you, I’m not crazy, I’ve been suffering from this abuse for 20 yrs+. Nobody believes me! I’m actually crying. I feel understood for the first time in years.

    • @Zona-dw9rp
      @Zona-dw9rp Před 10 měsíci +4

      Me, too. Many blessings to you.😊

    • @nicholecornes1915
      @nicholecornes1915 Před 8 měsíci +3

      NO YOUR NOT CRAZY!

    • @lisabowden402
      @lisabowden402 Před 8 měsíci +2

      It’s so freeing.

    • @randycoolbaugh1408
      @randycoolbaugh1408 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I know, right! Wouldn't it have been great if we had CZcams back in the eighties!?... I would defiantly be in a much better place by now.

    • @sharon70418
      @sharon70418 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Let the healing begin. All the best.

  • @pabo8080
    @pabo8080 Před 11 měsíci +13

    Demonic behavior is an excellent way of putting it. I say this without being part of any religious dogma. I've learned that good and evil do exist and there is an unseen battle between the two. Narcissistic abuse is a tool of evil.

    • @jenniferbrooks87
      @jenniferbrooks87 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Absolutely! Our physical bodies experiencing so much discomfort and pain while interacting with them is a clear sign alone.

  • @colleenjl9474
    @colleenjl9474 Před rokem +48

    Every detail here is so accurate it gives me goose bumps. Yes, personally speaking, I have changed and have become considerably more guarded and cautious. There are those I love in my life, but I find that even they are not exempt from any alarm bells set off by gentle reminders from "intuition" I used to ignore before. Now intuition is like a gentle whisper and a tap on the shoulder...It was a stroke of luck when just a few months into the relationship I realized something was terribly "off". I did research. After 6 more months of trying to make it work, nothing changed...my boundaries and dignity were never respected nor considered, and there was no civility in working out conflicts. As humans who don't have 200 year lifespans, we just don't have the luxury of time to waste on people who care nothing for others. We cannot continue to make excuses for their behavior or ours. The truth is out there...Grab on to it, be guided by it...and LEAVE. Save yourselves.

  • @joshuaanzalone2060
    @joshuaanzalone2060 Před rokem +57

    We definitely become stronger jill and we no longer people please. It changes us in soooo many ways. We now know that not everyone is like we are. We don't defend,we don't explain. We cut off all flying monkeys and narc family members. We no longer place others above ourselves

    • @Butterflyyyy9
      @Butterflyyyy9 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Exactly because Flying Monkeys & Narc Family Members are people pleasures it's alway's about THEM. Not anymore NOT on my watch! 🔥

  • @blisterbill1708
    @blisterbill1708 Před rokem +35

    Btw, Out of all the talking heads on this narcissistic abuse subject, you’re the best. You’ve been through it.

    • @bluedogfish2
      @bluedogfish2 Před rokem +4

      She’s good…… sounds like she went thru pure hell like we all have but some worse than others

    • @ginadellgrottaglia6897
      @ginadellgrottaglia6897 Před rokem +2

      Most have been through it... the ones I watch anyway. But, yes, she's enjoyable. This is my first vid here...
      (Came via a short btw.)

  • @danthepainter8924
    @danthepainter8924 Před rokem +25

    'Maintain no contact with the narcissist' is a tough pill to swallow when I know I was obliged to leave my 6 years daughter behind( exposed to the abusive behaviour of her narcissistic mother)in order to save my life.

    • @amazingconsistency3039
      @amazingconsistency3039 Před rokem

      Yes, thank you. God says a man is to protect and lead his family. What did you decide?

    • @realmsabovetheclouds3619
      @realmsabovetheclouds3619 Před rokem +1

      🧡

    • @brendamobley
      @brendamobley Před rokem +2

      I’m so sorry. I am glad you are safe and I hope you will get a chance to help your daughter. Sometimes you have to put the oxygen mask on yourself first and survive.

  • @Desmondbrown73
    @Desmondbrown73 Před rokem +8

    Ever since the pandemic, I can’t trust anybody anymore. I’ve been in a 30 year relationship with my wife who has narcissistic personality disorder, I had no clue until the pandemic happened and I became awake for some reason

  • @stevec3892
    @stevec3892 Před rokem +7

    Had a whole family and suffered from anxiety and panic attacks my whole life ,

  • @tamarapalaniuk5412
    @tamarapalaniuk5412 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I needed to hear that I will never be the person I was. 😢. Hopefully I will become a stronger, confident woman.

  • @SOSM209
    @SOSM209 Před 10 měsíci +5

    “You Must Spend Time Alone Healing your inner Person” life journey

  • @DropOfHuman
    @DropOfHuman Před 11 měsíci +7

    I hate hearing “we will never been the same person we were before this.” It hurts my heart because I’m fighting for my life and I know I’ve already lost the battle. 🥺

    • @iszold
      @iszold Před 8 měsíci +1

      I hope all is well I've been where you and truly I tell you I have been saved by the lord my god.

    • @EveningTV
      @EveningTV Před měsícem

      It is because we are better. We are so much wiser and less likely to ever betray ourselves again. We know what we are worth and we stop settling for crumbs. I would never want to be the same as I was before I realized the lie I was living in.

  • @SookieSews
    @SookieSews Před 11 měsíci +6

    Excellent video, just got divorced from a narcissist, and was trapped under their spell for four years. Glad I did not have any children with him or any property, getting a divorce from the court system was very easy, he made it as difficult as possible, and tried to hold me hostage in that marriage, so that he could get more money for his disability, but I finally got out and the best way I can describe how I feel is lucky to have survived and got out

  • @jonellis6235
    @jonellis6235 Před rokem +10

    You’re correct. It’s hard to get past the hurt. Uncertainty is a certain!! Still struggling with that.

  • @floralyimo7907
    @floralyimo7907 Před rokem +10

    Listening to this....made me feel that i was listening to myself literally as a 17 yrs Covert Narcissist Survivor!!
    Thank you so much. I take this video as a validation of Embracing the new Me!!
    2 and five months free from terrible Narcissism!!

  • @pattybonner4975
    @pattybonner4975 Před rokem +15

    Repulsive is correct...I haven't dated since it's been 4 years...still healing.bounderies for sure... Unfortunately now it's like one red flag and I'm just like nope...sad

    • @tnt01
      @tnt01 Před rokem +4

      best to meet people through friends, having some sort of connection is safer.

  • @blisterbill1708
    @blisterbill1708 Před rokem +26

    Thank you, Jill, for all you do. Your video about malignant narcissist fathers ‘enlightened’ me to this subject. I just wish there was CZcams 3 decades ago.

  • @rjoettesquire9358
    @rjoettesquire9358 Před rokem +9

    Everything you said struck home. It is unfortunate some choose the route of the narcissist, rather then healing. I left my entire family after a lifetime of abuse. My only child(daughter) was taken from me by her dad, whose mom married a wealthy retired airline pilot. She did not want to be embarrassed by her narcissist son, who stalked women(yep, I really know how to pick 'em!) Therefore, she bailed him out every single time to avoid being embarrassed by him. He so gaslighted our daughter, she lost every ounce of confidence. He was using teen prostitutes, alcohol & drugs, & when this overweight, 66 year old man was rejected by my daughters 28 year old friend, he drove to the parking lot of where the friend worked & blew his brains out. My daughter was so dependent on him, she didn't think she could survive without him. Two years later she also committed suicide. This is the cost of a narcissist. Do not hesitate, get out now! Especially if you have children. I pray for healing for us all.
    I have major panic attacks if contacted by family. Moving on & not responding to those who choose to not get over themselves. How very sad when one day they wake up & realize what they have done.

  • @zippyz4170
    @zippyz4170 Před rokem +8

    I get so disgusted when the memories flood back as I've been a target my whole life. The anger is really hard to deal with as I've never been so angry in my life. My family, relatives, work environments, social groups and even the cops just kept targeting me and I didn't understand why until I overheard someone accusing me of being the narc and I know I'm not cause I'm the scapegoat and they hate who they are so they dump it on me. I wish I researched this topic when I first heard the term as I would have just disappeared from my community. They are murderers in disguise but oh no don't hurt them...damn double standard.

  • @mendyviola
    @mendyviola Před rokem +7

    Trust no one. That’s what I learned. I had to leave the country to ultimately escape to constant stalking, even after he went to jail multiple times. The court blamed me for the abuse and rape (1990’s) and did virtually zero to prevent it from happening again.

  • @baeldaikokuten_yj6792
    @baeldaikokuten_yj6792 Před 11 měsíci +5

    It’s sad that I had all these after having a narcissistic friend last year. It took me over a year to get over the situation. Some of my friends thought it’s about the friendship conflict but it’s more than that 😢
    It made me care more about innocent people

  • @georgegavallos4519
    @georgegavallos4519 Před rokem +6

    Truly, my Naivety handicapped me ( John 9:25): “ One thing I know. I was blind, but now I can see.” ( the Narcissists)

  • @davidhinkson8856
    @davidhinkson8856 Před rokem +4

    My biggest issue is feeling that I am not good enough career wise or that people I am looking to date now will not accept me for who I am, especially since I have lost a lot financially after 14 years in an abusive marriage to a narcissist. I have also learned the importance of minimal contact with her and complete no contact with her highly toxic mother and brother.

  • @stephenclayton7052
    @stephenclayton7052 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I have lost the ability to trust people especially in a relationship sense. As much as I want to trust a person I constantly question 'are they genuine or will they just use me'

  • @Jetmab04
    @Jetmab04 Před rokem +8

    Absolutely Jill!!
    When I had one of them on the phone and he directly screamed into my ear - quote "no matter how much you can prove, you have to die anyway' end quote
    There is no room in my life, for such hate...I hung up and, no matter how much it hurt to lose everyone and everything, there will never ever be any room in my heart and life for such insanity 😱
    And yes, so true, such experiences never disappear from our life as, we learned the hardest wayhow to set our bounderies..
    Thanks a lot for sharing Jill 💕💓💕

  • @maggiesalle2256
    @maggiesalle2256 Před rokem +12

    I was raised by two narcissists. I would love to meet the person I was meant to be. I am not negating what you said in this video. I still think in my own case a lot of bad effects have ruined much of my life. (I always had great friends, though!)

    • @Elizabeth-tb5oh
      @Elizabeth-tb5oh Před rokem +2

      Same here. So from birth. Before we were verbal. So much trauma and abuse. You’re right about meeting the person we were supposed to be. It’s been a hard life going on to marry narcissists. No more! Cant go back and change things so I’ve looked forward and developed interests and hobbies I like. I’ve drawn close to God who is my true father/Father where I find my worth and value. I have peace now. Peace is the perfect answer to not knowing what might have been for people like us.

    • @williamerobinsonjr2576
      @williamerobinsonjr2576 Před 11 měsíci

      I'M Sorry this happen to you. My response to my parents like your situation was to become the person that I couldn't find on the face of this earth. Be a good spirit and be love! Bill

  • @Infinitetrucker
    @Infinitetrucker Před 5 měsíci +212

    I should be retiring in 3years, you see l've got good companies in my portfolio and a good amount invested, but my profit has been stalling, does it mean this recession/unstable market doesn't provide any calculated risk opportunities to make profit?

    • @divonteschiller8788
      @divonteschiller8788 Před 5 měsíci

      Consistency is the key to a successful investing journey as modest investments for longer periods of time will usually outperform larger investments over shorter periods. I’ll keep working with Mr Zach his ways are very defined and yields results

    • @teddy.bisson.411
      @teddy.bisson.411 Před 5 měsíci

      This is superb information, as a noob it gets quite difficult to handle all of this and staying informed is a major cause, how do you go about this? Do you trade on your own?

    • @andreasvankur3735
      @andreasvankur3735 Před 5 měsíci

      This is superb information, as a noob it gets quite difficult to handle all of this and staying informed is a major cause, how do you go about this? Do you trade on your own?

    • @Infinitetrucker
      @Infinitetrucker Před 5 měsíci

      How can I reach him?

    • @divonteschiller8788
      @divonteschiller8788 Před 5 měsíci

      Search his full name

  • @johnkarl8921
    @johnkarl8921 Před 5 měsíci +2

    What I hate the most after my 20 year Rollercoaster ride through hell
    with my covert narcissist is why can't I stop thinking about her ?
    I've been through therapy years ago- leaving her has been a long process of standing up for myself against her dismissive devaluing emotional abuse and gas lighting manipulation, walking away, coming back only for the whole nightmare to quickly turn full circle.Her latest tactic was to smear me to her family and friends by playing the victim and telling them how horrible I am to her and how I keep walking out leaving her.
    I gave up getting angry years ago because that's exactly what plays into their victim game. I can never get anywhere trying to discuss our relationship, my feelings etc everything is a my way or the highway attitude from her . I have periods of questioning myself if I over react to her dismissive ways.She does everything talked of in videos on the subject. All the red flags are there. I know about trauma bonds codependant relationships so why why can't I move on. We're no contact atm. Sh said her family hates me ( the family I've shared holidays,weddings, funerals with,helped and done endless work for as I have for my ex ie. handyman jobs big and small
    now they hate me ??? She wrecked my health physically as well as emotionally I was hospitalised twice with stress induced heart and gastrointestinal problems been in therapy for anxiety and depression and ptsd issues. Lost friends, lost my inheritance as my mother couldn't stand her and cut me out of her will to ensure she wouldn't benefit from it. She interfered behind my back writing letters to the executors for information signing it with my name even. I should hate her ! Whats wrong with me. Sorry for a long post but that's how its changed me . I don't ever want to trust another woman again ( it's nothing against women it's the fact there are so many narcissists around today male and female it's terrifying getting close to people again

  • @MARLA116
    @MARLA116 Před rokem +13

    Great video, Jill. I don't know how and when I will heal. Or if I will heal. But, I am hoping that my experience, like yours, will help someone else who is suffering.😢❤

    • @teresadvorak6145
      @teresadvorak6145 Před rokem +2

      Help is on its way! ❤ prayers for U & your situation 🙏

    • @MARLA116
      @MARLA116 Před rokem

      @Teresa Dvorak
      God love and bless you, Theresa. TY so much. I can see why you have the same name as St. Teresa of Avila, St. Theresa Benedicta of the Cross, and St. Therese of Lisieux.❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

  • @kimberlyfowler5748
    @kimberlyfowler5748 Před 10 měsíci +4

    As far back as I remember my mom and older sister were narcissist, for me there was no before

  • @YOU-niter
    @YOU-niter Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is a fantastic description of what anyone who has had a narcissist! In their lives!
    Thank you so MUCH!
    Sharing far & wide! For ALL who have been through narcissistic abuse, smear campaigns etc etc etc!🤯😓☹️

  • @gordonanderson3111
    @gordonanderson3111 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The 'gang stalking' form of this disorder is so extreme for me now - you would not "believe" it!
    In fact I was told when I was young "Don't bother trying to tell anyone what we are doing (to little boys rear ends) no one will believe you!" So bad my one brother Mark died in August and it is being kept secret, no obituary, no notice to me, no word of any funeral, mainly to stop me from getting my due inheritance - all done by an evil sister - who used it to come to my home town and scream that I had to come out of my room...
    Our 90 year old mother disappeared in 2013 the same way. Just taken to the funeral home and burned with no ceremony. The gang of covert narc. I suffer can and Do kill people! So every restaurant I go into, all across the USA, some show up to demand I be thrown out - denied service. Several times I made an appt. at and art dealer for an appraisle and when I walk in the door they scream I have to leave and the police are being called to arrest me - so I am starved by being stopped from working or even selling any valuable art of or musical instrument I made!!! Hundreds of times police are called... ...when I had to live in a mini-van for 12 YEARS - now dying of cancer in a subsidized apt., dying at gov. expense, when I used to be such a hard worker - AND THEM STILL ARE AT MY DOOR trying to get to me, for breaking their sacred demonic "Code of Silence". The harder I worked the harder they tried to end my life.
    At the center of the word believe is the word lie. There is no shortage of facts to base ones life on, and the greatest suppressed fact of all is there can not possibly be just one being "above " Earth Humans and in fact there as many above us as below. There are many Gods, Goddess, Angels, demons, 'aliens' ET & ED beings, Nature spirits... and so I AM being sent back to my heavenly home, to escape 'Them' who will not allow any of this to be said.

  • @yellowdayz1800
    @yellowdayz1800 Před rokem +20

    It is demonic behaviors!

    • @user-xe5og7hu8t
      @user-xe5og7hu8t Před 3 měsíci

      It absolutely is!..... they all act just like their father, the devil.

  • @luckyduckydaisyflower2344

    Low detached contact is very helpful term. Thankyou. Let's put on the full armor of God. He made it for us. If we strive to learn about our creator he will change us.

    • @jenniferbrooks87
      @jenniferbrooks87 Před 6 měsíci

      I am a Christian as well. I tried low contact but unfortunately am having to No contact with my elderly parents. They are very physically sick and require my help but on the phone still abused me. God understands when our own life is at stake.

  • @ankicat3425
    @ankicat3425 Před rokem +4

    My parents are narcissists and my partners, and people I've tried to trust have used me, so now I've got such an anxiety. I've got a job interview coming up and I've already got stomach ache caused by anxiety

    • @bleh329
      @bleh329 Před rokem

      Too bad this "professional" thinks you're just a monkey.

    • @michaelaxis6304
      @michaelaxis6304 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Wow sorry to hear that my family are super evil and is hard to find a job because i don't have a car and i need money

  • @JJ-mh4xd
    @JJ-mh4xd Před rokem +3

    I experienced this first hand unfortunately and I had to endure 3 of them at once. My ex boyfriend and his parents were awful. I had caught my ex father in law going through my stuff. He was searching the laundry for his tobacco chew fixed. SO WEIRD! I was taken aback by this.

  • @franklinbacon3565
    @franklinbacon3565 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I found it amazing in my case, how the narcissists do not even have to speak to their victim directly, but have flying monkeys abuse for them. These flying monkeys also may have their gripes with the narcissist, but carry out the demands, anyway.

  • @SOSM209
    @SOSM209 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thank you. You really hit home! I’m going to watch this same video at least five times or more, I am 57 years young. I was traumatized there a very young age as a boy, and I went through a lot of domestic violence only to find myself attractive or brought into relationships through these women seem to be, a poor experience, some cases very poor 27 and I’m also seeing my eyes being opened and my spirit regenerating. Thank you for this video. You definitely touch my life tonight.

  • @vampireslayer1989
    @vampireslayer1989 Před rokem +7

    Exactly Jill! Thank you for what you do.

  • @MoPoppins
    @MoPoppins Před rokem +5

    That shade of red is gorgeous on you, Jill! 💄

  • @amelittaberretta9109
    @amelittaberretta9109 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Indeed, the pain is ever lasting! I have learned the hard way, often ask God how have I deserved this ultimate unkindness from someone „I truly loved!“……sadly

  • @rjc7289
    @rjc7289 Před rokem +4

    The people who do lend a sympathetic ear to me are few and far between. My family would sooner I keep my mouth shut and stay in the background unseen and unheard. They know I am getting wiser to their bullshit and see their narcissism for what it is, and they can't handle it, hence the latent outbursts of intolerance and hostility. I'd love to untangle my ties to certain family members and go totally no-contact with them indefinitely.

  • @aparajitarajput2982
    @aparajitarajput2982 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Huge thanks to you for bringing out this entire video in the language of 'WE', makes it much easier to understand and realize that many people are involved in this healing and recovery journey. Also, sharing lessons from these painful situations which normally other people do not even try to recognize/ validate the mere existence, highly grateful dear!!
    Peace, strength and patience to all who are in their journey of finding themselves back again ❤

  • @paulhudson1931
    @paulhudson1931 Před rokem +5

    I just confront a potential narcassistic now and tell them straight away what they are. If someone doubts me for no reason' when im in the right i just call them a gas lighter 😊

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před rokem +1

      Except some of them have never heard those terms.

  • @anonymousunknown8709
    @anonymousunknown8709 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Omg. Yes. 💯 I disregarded my instincts based on his unrelenting lies that I chose believe under the stupidity that he actually cared for me and our kids.

  • @lorisunshine81
    @lorisunshine81 Před 28 dny

    Thank you. You have really helped me feel like a survivor and not a victim. 61 years of 2 abusive narcissists and so close to freedom. Although I have to live with him until the house sells it's so hard. I dream of being away for good. It's hard to hear his voice let alone see him daily. You've inspired me.❤😊 Thanks

  • @NarcissistSurvivorSociety

    Awesome job! The more we talk about narcissistic abuse, the fewer lives it will ruin.

  • @johnegan4762
    @johnegan4762 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I wish I could not relate to this video as much as I do. I guess being a person of low to no boundaries made it inevitable that I would have to learn the hard way.

  • @ty8xhuohm
    @ty8xhuohm Před rokem +8

    Doctor, can you do a video on how to heal from the PTSD disorder after narcissistic abuse?

  • @terrydyer2490
    @terrydyer2490 Před 5 dny

    WOW, this is one of the best videos explaining a narcissist. This is just a part of my long nightmare. My husband and I were mentally and verbally abused by our evil narcissistic demon of an adult daughter, For years. It got so bad that the stress cause an emotional breakdown for my husband, One day he started crying uncontrollably with him gasping for air ( this is a guy that never cried because of his upbringing of men don't cry ) He was asking what he did wrong on raising her to be so evil then he collapsed and took his last breath 4 years and 8 months ago. She always had anger issues since she was a teen, but we chopped it up as just being a teen and hormons since she seemed to be a very well-rounded person overall. We noticed the changes in her as she got older and thought she was bipolar. But it was too late for us to get her help because she was over 18. She wouldn't amit that she has mental problems and get help. By the time I learned about narcissism, it was too late. The trauma damage was already done. In those horrible years of walking on eggshells, she had us under her control because she was kicked out of her ex-husband's home for stepping out on him and the trauma she caused. She ended back with us because she was homeless and 3 months pregnant with another's man child. So, of course, we took her in. She was lying from the start, telling us her marriage failed because he was abusing her physically. I know different now. We tried to help her, going through her pregnancy and the birth, then she couldn't handle being a mother. She wouldn't do what a mother should do and we ended up raising our grandson until he was 6 years old.
    She hunted down for a new supply because my husband became disabled and we couldn't give her a free ride anymore. We asked her to start paying her own way because if she didn't we would end up homeless. That pissed her off, and she really got bad. She finally found a nieve 24 year old guy, 6 years younger than her, Within 3 months, she manipulated and lied to him and they moved in together. Then she trapped him by getting pregnant. My husband I ended up homeless with her stalking us and still messing with our heads using our grandson against us. Then my husband died. She destroyed me beyond repair. I have been abandoned by everyone,... She made sure of that with her lies.. I went no contact but it is slowly killing me from the inside out. I can't have a relationship with my grandson. I can't function anymore. I'm the one who is at fault somehow. And you know what.. I'm starting to believe I must be. I'm just a failure and a lost cause.. I can not heal . It hurts so much. I'm so tired of trying. I just want to die.

  • @DogGoneYouTube
    @DogGoneYouTube Před rokem +4

    🙏🏿Amazing you must have a secret mirror in my aura.. everything you’ve shared applies to me… this post is confirmation that i’m on the right track in my healing journey
    Thank you and God bless you🙏🏿

  • @cathleen7432
    @cathleen7432 Před 15 hodinami

    Peace and safety!!! 🙏🏾 So precious! Such a blessing!! Thank you God!

  • @tammystours5171
    @tammystours5171 Před rokem +3

    Wow!! This is such an awesome vid! Was just contemplating these things this morning!
    It is such a wonderful place to arrive at this, trusting myself and letting others EARN my trust instead of giving it to just anyone. Valuing my peace and well being above all else. It was a hard long road, but wow! Does it feel incredible to finally have gotten to this point! And yes, once you have survived this nightmare, there comes a KNOWING that you are tough as a bullet! God Bless ❤

  • @gwendolynwehage6336
    @gwendolynwehage6336 Před 7 měsíci +1

    For me, words mean nothing, narcissists can say all manner of good things while being mean at the same time. This video is exactly right. I have no interest in making new relationships with anyone who displays some of this disorder. Even when they are kind I can see through the phoniness. I am definately stronger because of my battle with narcissists. And, you are correct in saying narcissism is demonic.

  • @Exit.The.System.
    @Exit.The.System. Před rokem +4

    Spot on !
    Best words I’ve heard in a long Tim

  • @eboneep6354
    @eboneep6354 Před rokem +2

    Wheew this is hard I just wish I could be over this pain

  • @pagonabarbata1364
    @pagonabarbata1364 Před rokem +2

    Growing up with a narcisstic father only sets his children up for a bad example throughout life.

  • @deeheglie4940
    @deeheglie4940 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yes! We already have walked through hell!

  • @r-ph
    @r-ph Před rokem +5

    Love you, Jill. Thanks a lot. ❤

  • @randycoolbaugh1408
    @randycoolbaugh1408 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Is this why society as a whole is going down the tubes? In my life narcissism ran rampant. My grandparents my parents and I'm afraid even me. "polluted society", OMG! 100%! but after ghosting 99% of everybody I know that has done me wrong at any level, Its a lonely life.

  • @almeliachapman6675
    @almeliachapman6675 Před rokem +3

    Omg…you are so on point! Thank you so much for this confirmation. Wow!!!

  • @Crystalquartz964
    @Crystalquartz964 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for having the beautiful red flowers in the photo, Jill. They were a pleasure to see as I listened to your Wise words

  • @aquagirl9228
    @aquagirl9228 Před rokem +1

    Truth!!! Thanks Jill 🙏✌️❣️☀️🙏

  • @jeaninechitiva8333
    @jeaninechitiva8333 Před rokem +1

    So true, thank you

  • @mindywood119
    @mindywood119 Před rokem +2

    Well said, my thoughts exactly.

  • @karlasimmet8777
    @karlasimmet8777 Před 10 měsíci

    I am hurting, I have had a lifetime of various abuse. Thank you for recognizing these issues it helps my mental health.

  • @e.annhinman8399
    @e.annhinman8399 Před 2 měsíci

    Some sociopath mother's started this abuse after our birth or conception. I and many had to fight for normalcy. Dad loved me and stayed which helped.😢

  • @Humanfacehumanityfirst
    @Humanfacehumanityfirst Před rokem +1

    Well articulated!

  • @jessmason2112
    @jessmason2112 Před rokem +2

    ❤, they are going to have to have their things together. If not I can struggle all by myself. I don't need to add to the struggle with nonsense. 3:47

  • @SebastianKomor
    @SebastianKomor Před 2 měsíci

    Great video. Thank you. I am in a co parenting, err, counter parenting situation with a narcissist. Doing my best to be low contact. Ironically that just winds her up, so my phone goes into world championship in text messages mode.

  • @robyncampbell9624
    @robyncampbell9624 Před rokem +2

    Thank you Jill for your videos they are great lol ❤

  • @franksimmons9242
    @franksimmons9242 Před rokem +1

    All those powerful deliberate statements!

  • @SOSM209
    @SOSM209 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for Healing Energy thru the Video. E.T.
    The Soldier aka T.S.

  • @pamelagraves2364
    @pamelagraves2364 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for all your help and video info🌼

  • @suef5417
    @suef5417 Před 3 měsíci

    So validating! All of the above for me these days.🙂

  • @jasongeer9402
    @jasongeer9402 Před měsícem

    I am happily in self-isolation. I've lost all desire to even participate in society. I did not take care of myself anymore I don't take my heart meds I don't clean myself. I have no family, I have an ex-wife who who I paid child support 2 for a kid that was not mine who lived with me the whole time. Right up until I went bankrupt because of the child support and became homeless. Pray every night that I don't wake up and cry every morning when I do . No longer go to any doctors because refusing healthcare will end social security and social security is the only thing keeping me alive.

  • @Heavenly_007
    @Heavenly_007 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Still going through it 😔 god help me and my kids 🙏🏽

  • @shawnamartin8505
    @shawnamartin8505 Před 4 dny +1

    My mother just about killed me. My 1st suicide attempt was when I nine uts oldI was so scared of her I rather would've died!!

  • @NextLevelTherapy
    @NextLevelTherapy Před 7 měsíci

    So good and thorough. Best I’ve watched on this topic.

  • @markh4926
    @markh4926 Před 7 měsíci

    I lived with a woman for 22 years before realizing she 'may be' a narc. She was a manipulator for sure but I just thought doing things for your wife was normal.
    One month I started to bring up my experience with narcissism in my alcohol recovery group, not just from her but from her first husband. The reaction from those people in several different meetings both live and Zoom surprised me as we are allowed to talk about anything we like except crimes we committed and or criminal statements or intentions. The women had the biggest shyt fit and some walked out on me. Some men told me I was not allowed to talk about narcissism and some tried to shame me.
    All that didn't make sense to me until the gossip and slander against me came to a head when at one in person group they accused me publicly, in front of thirty people, of being a predator. I did make a new girl laugh at that meeting but one of the sayings in AA is, "We are not a glum lot." The attack happened seven months ago and I'm wondering if I will recover from that, it changed my life as I am now isolated from them, part their design and part by my simple desire for self preservation.

  • @WarriorNoldor
    @WarriorNoldor Před 11 měsíci

    After my experience, I stopped being a nice guy, less trusting, and giving the benefit of the doubt.

  • @markcooper9033
    @markcooper9033 Před rokem +3

    Thank you again miss Jill for your insightful content.
    You must have been/are an interior designer. Too many things in the background coming together 😉👍

  • @janicemurphy4373
    @janicemurphy4373 Před rokem

    My words and thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @elizabethchapin8303
    @elizabethchapin8303 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nobody talks about how families are affected by having a son who is in denial about his toxic relationship with a female narcissist.