Other issue that happen on most Z & G at least for my ownership experience: 1. CSC Failure 2. Rear axle click (annoying ASF) 3. Steering lock module - if it fails it keeps it lock & car won't start, wasted like $500 on tow, parts & labor and could avoid it if I took the steering lock fuse out which I did after got the car back. Other then that been happy with the VQ platform had G37 Coupe at 30k miles, now almost 90k in 6 years its my daily, I've taken it to the track, road trips & mexico activities and its been reliable. Now I'm selling it to I got 370z with 27k miles and already had CSC failure lol had to swap it for external CSC kit.
So Andy this one, i was borderline on.. this ripped bushing mostly happens with us enthusiast drivers. The majority or G owners will never have this issue and will enjoy the low NVH that the bushing offers for a long time.
As I expected, your list is much better than the other lists from random people. They always complain about not very important things and don't go into any important detail.. they make lists of things that don't matter much. Great job.
correct these list are attention grabbers and dont offer much substance, which is why i tend to shy away from it.. but this vid seems to be getting good reviews.
Yes that little coolant hose on the driver's side was a pain. Hose clamp pliers really helped out with that job. I got 170k miles on my G Sedan luckily haven't had the sunroof or gallery gasket issues, knock on wood.
2012 G37s Sedan factory 6Mt , 110k miles only issues I’ve dealt with is the sunroof drain issue , replaced both pieces at once on both driver & passenger I agree the clutch pedal can be funny taking off or going from 1 to 2 gear I’ve worked on plenty of customer cars tho & did gallery gaskets & that firewall water bypass plastic issue
I hear about cracked dashes and I don't have this problem with mine. I bought mine with 82k in 2019 and it's got 93k now in 2023. Some of the steering wheel has slightly worn around one of the parts that connects to the wheel part.. but the worst thing in the interior is probably the silver trim piece on the door.
what year is your car.. i hear late 2012 dashes and onwards seem to hold up.. and yea the raw aluminum can take a beating, im happy mine have mostly survived unscaved.
@@3rdPedalMedia It is a 2012, but I don't think it's a "late 2012". I know when I ordered brake lines I checked and had to select "Before 01/2012" in the dropdown on Z1.
Да согласен недостатки в платформе есть. Как и в каждой модели есть свои недостатки. А за некоторым проблемам нужно особенно внимательно следить. Но удовольствие от машины , которое ты получаешь от вождения, перекрывают все недостатки. Особенно если ты влюблен в это авто. Для меня каждая поездка за рулём как в первый раз. 🔥
One issue I had was at around 130k miles my water pump failed and it is a pain in the ass to replace because it's timing chain driven. Took me a good two weeks to replace it in my garage, awful design.
This is actually a good design for engine safety. Most cars have their water pumps driven by the serpenentine time. If the serpentine belt snaps or a pulley fails while driving or while you need to drive it to a shop, your engine won't overheat as the water pump is driven by the timing chain. Don't ask me how I know this lol. One my idler pulleys or smth came off while I was driving spiritedly haha
I honestly don’t mind the factory clutch feel. I got it basically right away and it catches in an intriguing and fun way. That said I may eventually change it. Just bought a 2011 g37s manual!! It’s great
I just got a 2008 G37S with 142000 seems pretty solid only issue so far is a slight sweet smell of coolant under the hood. Was looking around and so far I've spotted the corrosion around that plastic hose coupler on the passanger rear. Im gonna check out that other hose you were reffering to.
I love my g37 sedan 2013 and I had the sunroof the coolant connecter fail on me last year but easy fix no dealer was need did all the maintenance my self now it’s time for spark plugs
I have a G37S and i have had to replace the galley gaskets. But i did the first time at like 145k! Then the second time was about 220k. I have not checked the other hoses! I am going to look at those today, lol...also, i have to park outside, and i use a window dash saver, but my dash is cracked so bad. It did it even with the shield. I also need to check my sunroof drain ports. I still think this is a good car. Still has a ton of power even with the mileage...thanks for the info bro!
I’ve had the occasional puddle on the carpet but it’s usually behind the passenger seat. Another issue I’m still having is during spirited driving, while using the paddles the trans won’t upshift. And by spirited I mean driving it on a NASCAR style oval track. Off the track I’ve never experienced it.
I think a lot of the you mention are on point but, these are problems that come with any older car. The sticky dash is a Nissan thing my old 09 Altima had the same thing at like 67k miles lol 😂
Yea bro. I installed the RJM pedal very early in its life around 30-35k miles. And since day one I could tell with that pedal its fully releases due to new noise at the trans area until I put force on the pedal. My belief is the stock pedal puts a pressure on it which caused the premature wear.
Sticky / Melting / Shiny or cracked dash, (mine just gets shiny and I have to regularly clean it and treat it with 303 right now very often) and Passenger Occupancy Sensor failure (which shows a nice red light on the dashboard). The Sensor is built into the passenger seat and only way to fix that is with a new seat or do a bypass which I betting you did if you are using non standard seats. Of course if you do the Passenger Occupancy bypass mod, which forces the air bag to always be on, then you have to deal with the seat belt light on by unplugging that connector or using a seat belt extension that is always plugged in to trick it into thinking someone is strapped in.
Update: My dash just started cracking around the vents so at best all you can do delay the inevitable even if it's garage kept, use a sun shade when parking outside, and cleaning it regularly.
I had this issue on my q50. Where the car would always think someone was sitting in the passenger seat and the seatbelt light would always stay illuminated in the gauge cluster. I used my mechanics high end scanner to do an airbag and seat belt system reset
I bought my 2010 G37 in 2012 with only 11k miles. I still have it and the whole interior is decaying as well. Dash, door panels, center console, leather seats, etc. My car is kept garage most of the time. Wrong choices Nissan, no wonder your sales reflect your poor quality.
I have a 2008 Lexus IS250 that has a sticky dash door panel issue and it drives me crazy fr. A dash replacement is exspensive and a coverlay on mine is about 350 for one. There's a infiniti G37xS sedan I'm thinking about getting that just came up for sale.
Dont get the xS. I had it and waste of money. You get none of the actual sport package benefits if you have an awd model. Just get the regular X and add paddle shifters yourself
I was sure I had the sunroof drain problem but it turned out to be that the window of the coupe did not close high enough. Just a fingernail thickness gap let in enough water to fill the depression in the floor pan, even in a mild shower. The leak cannot be seen sitting in the car in the rain as water runs down the rubber sealant and comes in under the scuff plate inside the door.
Have you had a problem with your slave cylinder? Many of us in AZ have had this issue but I don’t see many people outside of AZ having issues with the csc. Maybe Bc if the heat? I’m not sure but I had to upgrade twice from a stock to a heavy duty and then finally to a cmak delete kit after both failed on me
So yes. The CSC should be on the list I forgot it :( However personally I haven’t rly had issues with it till now as it’s aged. Maybe it lasted longer because of the RJM pedal.
I bought the less psi pedal assist spring, I figgin' hate that thick OEM yellow one, that has probably been my biggest problem. Gotta put that in this week too.
On the money bro, you know me I got the other red 2013 6mt in Nashville Forgot ine thing tho that bxtch ass OEM CSC lmao. I did the Z1 CSC elimination kit back in 2020. But 3 months ago the 5th gear shift fork ring broke so its stuck in gear. Bought a BNIB trans from Z1 gotta finish putting it in this week.
I didn't know infinity's come with manual seats my skyline v36 350gt S base seats sports leather are fully electric I thought infinity's are meant to be flasher and mines a 07 dash is perfect no screen shade
There is a strange knocking sound that comes from the back when my music is off. And it’s not only from the back. It happens from the front a little bit too. I know that’s not road noise that’s supposed to be like that. The ride still remains smooth but the back knocks when you go over the slightest creases in the road. It be like thud thud. Some days 😅I’m lucky and I don’t hear it. Usually because I’m playing music. But the days I want to ride with out sound and enjoy the purring of the car. That is always a spoiler. Might be the struts or the shocks. It’s not that loud but it’s there. Does any one else experience the same thing. Please let me know. The mechanic told me there is absolutely nothing wrong with my car after he changed the front driver side wheel bearing hub assembly. That I am so happy about because that used to sound like the e brake was stuck on and it would just grind and slow the acceleration of the car. But now that out the way , the front passenger side might need attention as well, or it just something I waited out and it went away. Now the car drives smooth. Btw I have aftermarket 20 in rims on mine with the proper lower pro tires( and the don’t rub or defect the inner wall) mines an awd by the way. I also have another question. What power steering wheel fluid is supposed to be used in the car. My car came without the owners manual. 2009 Infiniti G37x coupe.
I have an 09 g37 sedan. Exactly the same as your red one except it's an automatic. Front end is getting noisy when you hit small bumps. Struts, bushings? Anything common to start with? Anything helps. I love this car
I have a 2009 G37X. You're dashboard is white? And sticky? I don't know what he hell you're talking about. Did you ever try cleaning it. How about showing your dash? Weird video
Other issue that happen on most Z & G at least for my ownership experience:
1. CSC Failure
2. Rear axle click (annoying ASF)
3. Steering lock module - if it fails it keeps it lock & car won't start, wasted like $500 on tow, parts & labor and could avoid it if I took the steering lock fuse out which I did after got the car back.
Other then that been happy with the VQ platform had G37 Coupe at 30k miles, now almost 90k in 6 years its my daily, I've taken it to the track, road trips & mexico activities and its been reliable. Now I'm selling it to I got 370z with 27k miles and already had CSC failure lol had to swap it for external CSC kit.
Yess i forgot the CSC urg lol.. never heard/read about the axle click tho nor the steering issue.
Oh yeah and the passenger cat failure at 80k
@@3rdPedalMedia also rear diff bushing failure
So Andy this one, i was borderline on.. this ripped bushing mostly happens with us enthusiast drivers. The majority or G owners will never have this issue and will enjoy the low NVH that the bushing offers for a long time.
When he said everywhere I had flashbacks😂
As I expected, your list is much better than the other lists from random people. They always complain about not very important things and don't go into any important detail.. they make lists of things that don't matter much. Great job.
correct these list are attention grabbers and dont offer much substance, which is why i tend to shy away from it.. but this vid seems to be getting good reviews.
Yes that little coolant hose on the driver's side was a pain. Hose clamp pliers really helped out with that job. I got 170k miles on my G Sedan luckily haven't had the sunroof or gallery gasket issues, knock on wood.
Man those clamps were the worst.
Same 170k
One of the few that give useful information on this platform consistently. Great content! 👍
🔥🔥💪👊🏽
2012 G37s Sedan factory 6Mt , 110k miles only issues I’ve dealt with is the sunroof drain issue , replaced both pieces at once on both driver & passenger
I agree the clutch pedal can be funny taking off or going from 1 to 2 gear
I’ve worked on plenty of customer cars tho & did gallery gaskets & that firewall water bypass plastic issue
I hear about cracked dashes and I don't have this problem with mine. I bought mine with 82k in 2019 and it's got 93k now in 2023. Some of the steering wheel has slightly worn around one of the parts that connects to the wheel part.. but the worst thing in the interior is probably the silver trim piece on the door.
what year is your car.. i hear late 2012 dashes and onwards seem to hold up.. and yea the raw aluminum can take a beating, im happy mine have mostly survived unscaved.
@@3rdPedalMedia It is a 2012, but I don't think it's a "late 2012". I know when I ordered brake lines I checked and had to select "Before 01/2012" in the dropdown on Z1.
There not aluminum there plastic that’s why!
Да согласен недостатки в платформе есть. Как и в каждой модели есть свои недостатки. А за некоторым проблемам нужно особенно внимательно следить. Но удовольствие от машины , которое ты получаешь от вождения, перекрывают все недостатки. Особенно если ты влюблен в это авто. Для меня каждая поездка за рулём как в первый раз. 🔥
абсолютно 100%
вот почему я только осветил самые большие проблемы, а не придирался ко всему
Bro youre a legend. Really good insight that I had no idea about.
I don’t know about legend but happy you found value in the info.
One issue I had was at around 130k miles my water pump failed and it is a pain in the ass to replace because it's timing chain driven. Took me a good two weeks to replace it in my garage, awful design.
This is actually a good design for engine safety. Most cars have their water pumps driven by the serpenentine time. If the serpentine belt snaps or a pulley fails while driving or while you need to drive it to a shop, your engine won't overheat as the water pump is driven by the timing chain.
Don't ask me how I know this lol. One my idler pulleys or smth came off while I was driving spiritedly haha
I did not know about that one little hose on the drivers side that connects the 2 metal lines. Interesting vid, thanks
The coolest line broke in mines too
I honestly don’t mind the factory clutch feel. I got it basically right away and it catches in an intriguing and fun way. That said I may eventually change it. Just bought a 2011 g37s manual!! It’s great
Congratulations it’s such a great car
I just got a 2008 G37S with 142000 seems pretty solid only issue so far is a slight sweet smell of coolant under the hood. Was looking around and so far I've spotted the corrosion around that plastic hose coupler on the passanger rear. Im gonna check out that other hose you were reffering to.
Congrats on the new addition. The other hose is drive side under the intake above the header. Approximately 3-4inch long. I have a video about it.
czcams.com/video/ZIGtmWcFL6U/video.html
Just the tip not the shaft 😂😂😂
Love the video man planning on picking up a G37 S this summer
Nice man! Hope you love it as much as I do.
the dash is definitely the worst issue, when the sun hits the melted parts the glare is blinding 😎😎
dang didnt even consider that.. i better keep mine coated with 409
Broskiis just buy a dash cover looks clean and all those issues solved and u can get it custom stitching/engraving👍👍
I love my g37 sedan 2013 and I had the sunroof the coolant connecter fail on me last year but easy fix no dealer was need did all the maintenance my self now it’s time for spark plugs
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Great video so helpful!!!!
I have a G37S and i have had to replace the galley gaskets. But i did the first time at like 145k! Then the second time was about 220k. I have not checked the other hoses! I am going to look at those today, lol...also, i have to park outside, and i use a window dash saver, but my dash is cracked so bad. It did it even with the shield. I also need to check my sunroof drain ports. I still think this is a good car. Still has a ton of power even with the mileage...thanks for the info bro!
Dang sucks to do the gaskets twice. Did you go OEM the 1st time? A lot off ppl have used the EPS Tuning kit.
I’ve had the occasional puddle on the carpet but it’s usually behind the passenger seat. Another issue I’m still having is during spirited driving, while using the paddles the trans won’t upshift. And by spirited I mean driving it on a NASCAR style oval track. Off the track I’ve never experienced it.
Trans getting too hot?
@@3rdPedalMedia 🤷♂
@@3rdPedalMedia I'm unsure if that would be a symptom.
The sunroof drain is my only issue even if u clean it it will leak at some point again
I used the Adams ceramic coating off-label for the dash. It helps
ill have to look that up thx
It is not FDA approved so make sure that you document the failure of less invasive/conventional treatments in the service record.
Nice!! Thanks for the info
Very good
Im not gonna lie it was hilarious that he said ," the white stuff! It gets sticky when it CoUMes out and its everywhere 😅😂,🤔
I think a lot of the you mention are on point but, these are problems that come with any older car. The sticky dash is a Nissan thing my old 09 Altima had the same thing at like 67k miles lol 😂
Thanks and absolutely there’s a laundry list of things left but these are the main issues that can possibly sway ownership.
Gosh I hate the sunroof issue.
Hey ToXIc, great video. You never had your CSC blow out? That's worthy of Top 5.
Yea bro. I installed the RJM pedal very early in its life around 30-35k miles. And since day one I could tell with that pedal its fully releases due to new noise at the trans area until I put force on the pedal. My belief is the stock pedal puts a pressure on it which caused the premature wear.
@@3rdPedalMedia Lucky guy. Mine blew out at 18k miles (ten years ago). Under warranty, but still a PITA.
@@johnclare210 got about 90k on the stock one and going to finally change it out next week when I do my clutch.
I also would buy a Red G37, install premium racing seats, wear a Marvel Tee as well...and i'm born October 12th...mine would be a vert tho i love them
lol the marvel tee.. i have used that one too often huh. yea verts are kewl
Sticky / Melting / Shiny or cracked dash, (mine just gets shiny and I have to regularly clean it and treat it with 303 right now very often) and Passenger Occupancy Sensor failure (which shows a nice red light on the dashboard). The Sensor is built into the passenger seat and only way to fix that is with a new seat or do a bypass which I betting you did if you are using non standard seats. Of course if you do the Passenger Occupancy bypass mod, which forces the air bag to always be on, then you have to deal with the seat belt light on by unplugging that connector or using a seat belt extension that is always plugged in to trick it into thinking someone is strapped in.
Dang never heard about the seat issues.
Update: My dash just started cracking around the vents so at best all you can do delay the inevitable even if it's garage kept, use a sun shade when parking outside, and cleaning it regularly.
I had this issue on my q50. Where the car would always think someone was sitting in the passenger seat and the seatbelt light would always stay illuminated in the gauge cluster. I used my mechanics high end scanner to do an airbag and seat belt system reset
Great video I had my personal pool in this car just don't go to infiniti to get it fix they will charge u rent money lol
Yea can be annoying. That hourly rate is rough.
@@3rdPedalMedia yea lucky I know someone who fixed it ...for a good deal no more leaks 😁
My car sun roof is leaking like crazy 🤦🏾♂️ & I have the 2018 Q50 😭 They just refuse to fix the issue
I bought my 2010 G37 in 2012 with only 11k miles. I still have it and the whole interior is decaying as well. Dash, door panels, center console, leather seats, etc. My car is kept garage most of the time. Wrong choices Nissan, no wonder your sales reflect your poor quality.
thats awesome and at the same time oh no! See if you find a 2013 partout car been looking for one myself
Hey great video, it helped me ensure my 2015 Q40 is gonna be safe!! Where did you buy that cupler for the coolant line?
At any autostore. Ask for a radiator hose clamp and don’t over tighten it but make it snug.
I have a 2008 Lexus IS250 that has a sticky dash door panel issue and it drives me crazy fr. A dash replacement is exspensive and a coverlay on mine is about 350 for one. There's a infiniti G37xS sedan I'm thinking about getting that just came up for sale.
Dont get the xS. I had it and waste of money. You get none of the actual sport package benefits if you have an awd model. Just get the regular X and add paddle shifters yourself
Damn. I got one at like 140k and she's fine. Had a power steering pump whine since it was 2 yrs old but otherwise my 2012 g37 is mint
Changed out the fluids with OE? What color is the fluid?
I was sure I had the sunroof drain problem but it turned out to be that the window of the coupe did not close high enough. Just a fingernail thickness gap let in enough water to fill the depression in the floor pan, even in a mild shower. The leak cannot be seen sitting in the car in the rain as water runs down the rubber sealant and comes in under the scuff plate inside the door.
Dang. Do the window relearn procedure and see if it will go all the way up.
@@3rdPedalMedia I did try that but the angle of the window needs adjustment to remedy this problem.
let me get tho seat! lol
Doood they’re sooo good in there.
@@3rdPedalMedia I need a set for my R33 GT-R
@@tommykentner Brent had a set in his r33 check out that vid. It will give you an idea of how it will look.
@@3rdPedalMedia will do brother 👊😎
Have you had a problem with your slave cylinder? Many of us in AZ have had this issue but I don’t see many people outside of AZ having issues with the csc. Maybe Bc if the heat? I’m not sure but I had to upgrade twice from a stock to a heavy duty and then finally to a cmak delete kit after both failed on me
So yes. The CSC should be on the list I forgot it :(
However personally I haven’t rly had issues with it till now as it’s aged. Maybe it lasted longer because of the RJM pedal.
the same dash company made the same dash for the is300, same issues. I have seen videos that people sand them and paint them.
Yea vendors messing shit up.
I bought the less psi pedal assist spring, I figgin' hate that thick OEM yellow one, that has probably been my biggest problem. Gotta put that in this week too.
Yea I 1st did the spring mod, then after while that didn’t feel as good but loved the pedal ever since the new assembly.
Looking for a low mile 2014/15 Q60 coupe awd right now. Thanks so much for the video.
Np! Don’t forget to sub!
On the money bro, you know me I got the other red 2013 6mt in Nashville
Forgot ine thing tho that bxtch ass OEM CSC lmao.
I did the Z1 CSC elimination kit back in 2020.
But 3 months ago the 5th gear shift fork ring broke so its stuck in gear.
Bought a BNIB trans from Z1 gotta finish putting it in this week.
Yea man! I can’t believe I forgot that one. I believe I did pin the comment that 1st mentioned it.
I hate those damn hood latches getting stuck 🤬🤬🤬. I said @uck it and just got hood pins
oh yea? stuck cause they weren't aligned correctly on the aftermarket hood or on the OEM hood?
Can you please tell me what the wheels are on your car. They are nice, would like to see if a set would look as good on my 2014 gs7 s. Thanks
they are some Work S1's 3pc here's a vlog about why i chose the face type and how i came up with the offset. czcams.com/video/dCsSlZnX374/video.html
@@3rdPedalMedia thank you for letting me know
I didn't know infinity's come with manual seats my skyline v36 350gt S base seats sports leather are fully electric I thought infinity's are meant to be flasher and mines a 07 dash is perfect no screen shade
I swapped my seats with the 350z Nismo ones. The car did come the electric leather seats.
There is a strange knocking sound that comes from the back when my music is off. And it’s not only from the back. It happens from the front a little bit too. I know that’s not road noise that’s supposed to be like that. The ride still remains smooth but the back knocks when you go over the slightest creases in the road. It be like thud thud. Some days 😅I’m lucky and I don’t hear it. Usually because I’m playing music. But the days I want to ride with out sound and enjoy the purring of the car. That is always a spoiler. Might be the struts or the shocks. It’s not that loud but it’s there. Does any one else experience the same thing. Please let me know. The mechanic told me there is absolutely nothing wrong with my car after he changed the front driver side wheel bearing hub assembly. That I am so happy about because that used to sound like the e brake was stuck on and it would just grind and slow the acceleration of the car. But now that out the way , the front passenger side might need attention as well, or it just something I waited out and it went away. Now the car drives smooth. Btw I have aftermarket 20 in rims on mine with the proper lower pro tires( and the don’t rub or defect the inner wall) mines an awd by the way. I also have another question. What power steering wheel fluid is supposed to be used in the car. My car came without the owners manual. 2009 Infiniti G37x coupe.
Use OEM fluid. Empty the reservoir and put new fluid. Over time so this.
As far as the sound that’s gonna be a hard out over the interwebs.
I had my dash ceramic coated. And every month id apply some ceramic detailer on it and mine never cracked. I live in Toronto
Interesting.
Great is d pnm! Loooooolll
Fool lol.
The platform is not. G37 it's. Pv36 it's a rebadged skyline 👍
What lip is on your sport bumper? Is there two?
OE lip with Successful Automotive splitter
The dash is trash for real mines is so sticky rt now
Why do think they stop production on most of them????
New model refresh, with the exception of the 370z and GTR most models gets facelift every two years and redesign every four.
How much did you pay for the work on the gallery gaskets?
it was around 900
@@3rdPedalMedia obviously you took it to a shop?
Stupid sunroof drain!!!!!! I’ve had that problem with all 3 of my Gs.
3? Dang.
Are gallery gaskets issue fixed on all 2012+ g37/370z?
Closer to the MY2013, we’ve seen some early MY2012 still have the issue.
09' G37 starts and stalls, no engine lights.. any ideas?
It needs 3 things.
Gas
Air
Spark
Check each. Without codes you may need a scanner to scan the output of the sensors. May need a mechanic’s help.
I have an 09 g37 sedan. Exactly the same as your red one except it's an automatic. Front end is getting noisy when you hit small bumps. Struts, bushings? Anything common to start with? Anything helps. I love this car
Issue number 4 just happened when my wife was driving.... coolant everywhere
Do you have aftermarket sway bars? The bushings may need greasing.
Are those nismo seats straight bolt in?
Unfortunately not. Check my nismo playlist.
For Issue 5 what is it called to change?
Called? To change?
My 2010 maxima had sticky dash
Dang. Prolly the supplier they used around that timeframe. Maxima is the top luxury model on the Nissan side so figured.
Time to get a q70 or q50
no manual trans.. so i'll keep the G
Sooooo you looking to sell? LOL
Gonna be high.
I have a 2009 G37X. You're dashboard is white? And sticky? I don't know what he hell you're talking about. Did you ever try cleaning it. How about showing your dash? Weird video
I have the sunroof problem I hate it
Dang. Take it out runs so soapy water down it and blow out both ends with compressed air.
@@3rdPedalMedia I’ll try that tomorrow thank u so much
Them cvt at sucks
Very true but these didn’t come cvt.
Not quite as annoying as this video however.
Thx for your honestly. Don’t forget to like and subscribe 👍🏽
Any options to replace the sunroof with a new one or just the seals and using the same soonroof?
Dealer should have parts.
#1 everything pricey as fuck
SMH it is
I CURRENTLY HAVE A VOLTAGE PROBLEM
dang.. wow not sure about this one