Buying a used VW Phaeton - 2002-2016, Buying advice with Common Issues
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Buying a used Volkswagen Phaeton - 2002-2016
How reliable are the engines, what are the common problems with these cars? What is the price for fixing the various issues and the price for the spare parts? Watch the video and you will get answers to all these questions and more!
What to look for when buying a used Volkswagen Phaeton advice / guide
used VW Phaeton sedan / saloon
used Volkswagen Phaeton review
VW Phaeton 3.2 V6, 3.0 V6, 3.6 FSI V6, 4.2 V8, 6.0 W12, 3.0 TDI V6, 5.0 TDI V10
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Wow! This is the most Comprehensive video I have ever seen. I am so thankful for all the effort you put into this.
Agreed!
On the v6 diesel engine: If you buy a car that was parked for a year or so in the dealer's parking lot check the functionality of stationary heating system (webasto) because the membrane of fuel pump for the heater can be dry and the pump will not function. It costs 500 euros and you need to unscrew the rear axel to change it. If you change the accessory belt, spend extra 220 euros and also change the main pulley on the crankshaft because the rubber on it ages fast (5 years) and you can have a nasty surprise if it brakes.
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I had the car now for 3,5 years and 50.000 km, now my 2012 v6 3.0 diesel 4 seater has 150.000 km except what I already said I only had a hydraulic pipe failure, not expensive to fix but I had to tow the car home from vacation also, hold on to your hats... I had to redo the software of the front right seat because I forced it into something in the back and it forgot it's 0 point. A couple of weeks ago someone hit it on the right side and to my surprise I found out that a door is 5000 euros so the 2 door damage is around 12.000 euros which is the insurance companies calculated car value , fortunately second hand parts are dirt cheap so here's room to negotiate with the insurance.
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The second hand doors wore 500 euros, repainting everything around the car that needs repainting 1500 euros and I got 6000 euros from insurance company. I spent the extra 4k in a trip around Europe.
But how does it drive. Ride , feel ?
Nice of you to share information about the car. Thanks
I was almost buying a Merc S500, but the car at the side was Phaeton 01/2009 V6 TDI with 150.000Km in Mint condition. Just bought it today! Really happy (for now).
Thinking too buy 2010 V6 3.0 diesel, good car so far?
Please keep us updated. I'm dying to get one.
Its good ??
The car os behaving well. For safety I changed the oil and filters from the engine and gearbox. The dealer said that in the gearbox everything was alright.. No metallic residue...
My car has some less positive points... Like no automatic lights.. When your unlock the car with car keys the lights does not turn on. My truck is not automatic and no front parking sensors... The rest are great
@@CoinsEuropa Yes maintenance its the key for a good car.....and abuse it .....i have two E38 and i knoow :D
This is the type of videos really needed,not the glamorous new car ads for **dummies** Thanks
I owned a Phaeton from 50K the 85K repairs and service cost me 88 cents per mile. Every repair was above $1k, even the smalls ones
A friend of mine in Romania owns a Chevrolet Camaro. One of the cylinder heads probably loses pressure, there is no one willing to do a repair with warranty so probably the car will end up being someone's project. Maintenance is the hardest thing about owning a car made for a different continent, except Land Rover Defender, you can only drive that in England where 10% of the population works in Land Rover servicing so they can brag on how good they are.
Where do you live
Good Video man! Everything explained. A proud owner of a 2011 Phaeton w12 and a 2016 phaeton v8
I had the 3.0 TDI faulty intake manifold flaps problem start at around 180000 km. My mechanic was quoting me 500€ to replace the intake manifold. I have resolved it for now by attaching a 15€ piece of metal (cost for a set of 2) which limits the range of motion of the actuator motor arm and restores its function. For anyone interested I suggest searching the P2015 and/or P2020 error codes on eBay and on CZcams if you want to buy one of these and see how it is fitted. I fitted one to the left motor and it took me less than 10 minutes and my check engine light is gone (for now).
Had the same on my audi 2.7tdi. My mechanic could not fix it.. Thank you CZcams and ebay I solved it myself for 20e
uuuu a long waited review, thank you and have a good year (I love this Phaeton)
I have the W12 version of this car. Inspect the car carefully before you buy. Unfortunately I didn't. So far I've replaced all control arms and drop links 6000$. Brake job 1500$. Engine out service for alternator, thermostat replacement, and other issues 11000$. This list doesn't include the hundreds of hours i spent working on the car myself. Other than the continuous expensive repairs this really is an amazing car. Don't buy unless you are really rich car nut or a mechanic.
Yes just wait till you have to replace those chains and chain guides. Another engine out job! I know because I owned an Audi S4, same engine. The damned car nearly broke me.
@@alinazang6651 I thought everyone in the world knew about VW products by now.
i am a mechanic, and there is one Phaeton, Diesel close to me here in Portugal, for 3000 euro, but I DO NOT WANT IT!!! not after reading about it in the net!!! WHAT A MOTHER OF ALL NIGHTMARES!!! "!!!! everything breaks down, and everything is VERY expensive!!! even those STUPID doors for the Heat and A/C vents, how stupid it that, VW coud not make those gadgets work... ......................................................................................................................avoid
Thanks for the Great review my Friend .
Very informative and entertaining video! Thanks!
I have a v6 Petrol. Very reliable and a lovely machine. Had to replace the variators and change the timing chain at 150k Km.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Very helpful video.
Amazing review, keep up the good work!
Clear presentation! The best!
Another problem to check is in the early cars check the battery management module. It can fail and cause electronic headaches.
Brilliant review. Thanks
4:48 is hilarious! Great video!
Excellent and very thorough
There's a lot of problems with this Phaeton. There's so much information that we should know.
Thanks for the great video! Could you make a video on the 2nd and 3rd gen Lexus RX (i know they aren't very popular here in Europe but i think they are great cars (the non-hybrids) and would like to know your opinion).
The best explained video about the Phaeton in the net...by far!!! Thanks for your great job.
A proud 07 Phaeton's owner from Barcelona. Cheers!!!
Im thinking of getting one....hows ur experience of driving it?
@@gman1087 Overall: amazing!!! instead it's not very cheap to mantain, but it's worthfull!!
Cheers!
@@nube144 How much did you spend so far?
@@namitsua Not an outstanding amount during 6 years. Just maintenance and a couple of things quite normal for its age.
Cheers!!!
There used to be 2 of them in our town. Haven't seen either in years. Meanwhile my LS400 will be 23 y.o. next month and still a joy.
eh eh eh
For the last 3 years i have been a proud owner of a 2013 VW Phaeton 3.0 TDI and it is the best car i have ever owned. It is a super luxury continent cruiser that gets you there rested and relaxed. My recommendation would be to "turn-OFF the EGR/AGR" as this will make a very big difference, engine oil change every 10K and transmission oil/filter change every 80K. Overall its an amazing car!!
O really! that is an interesting video and as well a comment I was thinking to buy one used from 2010 diesel one, it looks nice ! but to hear owners and listen to video is quite useful
A 3.0tdi doesnt need an oil change for AT LEAST 15000kms. No need to spend money for nothing.
I love your videos.
Probably be the best VW ever made. Unfortunately, VW stop the production of this wonderful car.
the best vw is scirocco but they ended production of that too
But now we have arteon :)
Faint praise.
@Selim Sultan Akbar like Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Jaguar, Lexus, Cadillac, Lincoln, Infiniti?
great video my friend nice job!!!
in my opinion phaeton is a better quality car than mercedes s class w220 and bmw 7 series e65 at this time but not better then the audi a8 D3
as well as giving a very powerful car,
im sorry that I managed to break through, I would like to own one
I have a 4 seater 2012 long Phaeton and 2 of my friends have newer A8s. My car is more confortable, better insulated, better overall finising quality (hand assambled) and also about 400 KG heavyer. The A8 is more sporty, consumes almoast 2 liters/100 km less but also costs 6000-7000 euros more. On the A8 you can find anoying cheap plastic here and there wile the Phaeton uses inox and wood. The A8 is already the older model while if you own a 2011+ Phaeton is the latest model.
Thanks for sharing
Amazing as normal 👍🏼
Great accent and reat review!
Would love to see a review of the land rover LR3 and LR4 (aka discovery 3 and 4 for non us markets)
Exellent presentation
2008 GP1 VW Phaeton 3.0 TDI 240 bhp: My middle air vent was stuck open. I removed the glove box, steering plastics, the whole centre trim and infotainment to get it out! The motor was just weak and worked when I gave it a helping spin to start. I greased it and played with it for ages before finding a tested unit off ebay for £30. now its fixed. My A/C compressor clutch burned out and a used tested unit of ebay was just £40. The old clutch was so bad I couldnt even remove it from the pump. Fitting it took about 3 hours, but now I could do it in less. re gas and now its fixed. I think I have a boost leak / evap leak I need to do a test. not bad to work on actually once you get stuck in. brakes / suspension is all accessible and easy to work on. Turbo easy access. good room under engine. quality bolts that dont break. aftermarket parts and parts cars available online. Amazing in the snow! I would recommend this car 100% Great value for money. very rare as well.
What are your online resources and trusted sources? I need to do some research. Thank you.
@@circeo12 Myself and myself. Im not a people person and I dont trust my local garage 1 bit! Invest in tools instead of paying other people. everything is built properly and comes undone easily. This is just a car with an engine dont over complicate things. The internet is always useful and youtube also for some videos. Just get stuck in and dont look back. If the worst happens you can always pay someone else to fix it.
Hey I saw you have some videos on your channel. Maybe you can also make a video of your Phaeton? Thanks in advance!
@@gieltimmermans I actually have the front upper control arm bushes to replace using a press to replace the actual bush to press the old ones out instead of whole new arms and a thermostat to do. I get stage fright from the neighbours when I work outside they are all so nosey! Filming and talking to myself gives me cringe! Haha. I would like to however genuinely
Henry Phillips Haha yes I have the same I once did a review on my car but it was without talking it was just a walkaround and showing all the features
Had a phaeton before, honestly was an excellent car. Just after so many years, the infotainment was outdated. It would have been nice to have later year phaeton's in the US
This is the most informative instruction on automobiles I have ever heard. I followed the same narrator as he discussed the Bentley Continental GT convertible. I can't express how much I have learned from his dialog. My only suggestion is that perhaps the narrator could slow down or find someone else to narrate as it is difficult at times to understand what is expressed.
I own a 2008 GP1. amazing car! A am going to make a video on it. I have the middle clock vent broken stuck open. I also had my AC compressor clutch burn out because the re gas job was badly done:(no vacuum test first he just blasted gas in!)
@Vincent Vogelsang on the driveway. Just changed front axle lower rear control arm inner bushes. When I move house and have some better place to work I will film some stuff.
@Vincent Vogelsang by the way I changed the middle clock ages ago. It was glove box out, infotainment out, centre wood panel and gear shifter out. steering wheel plastic surrounding, long plastic strip across centre of dash just to get to it. Changed AC compressor also all used parts off eBay. Low boost was a fuel rail pressure issue caused by worn swirl flaps in intake manifolds strangely. I have replaced most front end suspension by now. I can't find the correct drop links to fit all the auto shops suggest I need ones that are too small. The change over year making it a continental GT and not an A8 but still with facelift.
@Vincent Vogelsang CARA is 237 bhp not 240? Very have to find mine with CEXA. also have the AC massaging seats. TV. Radar cruise control. 18 way seats. Electric boot. When you get yours ring VW and ask for your PR codes and factory build sheet very nicely. They can email it to you. This is very helpful and just good to know. About 8 pages worth of info
@Vincent Vogelsang Nice thanks for the tip. I rang my local VW dealer and asked really nicely. I said I was a castotian of the vehicle and plan to take good care of Her. Only 172 GP1 were made in Europe. Mine right hand drive with all the options makes it very rare. The procedure for them is to print out then scan / photo into email and send. Because they don't have a forward option on the page directly it is impossible to copy paste. Yes I do it all myself and invest in tools instead of paying mechanics to do it for me. I have been passionate home mechanic for ever. This is a good car to learn on because after this everything else seems easy also all the bolts are accessible and not rusty. Owning Ross Tech VCDS is also a must becauese of all the electronics this will save to lots. I can't find the correct drop links because the bolt holes are bigger than standard. I tried 3 different auto shops took my drop link in and they are all different. My bolts will not fit through the holes and I can't use thinner bolts because one of them screws directly into the roll bar so it has to be the correct one. This is some GP1 crossover year problem. I have a squeek coming from front suspension still and it's bugging me. Happens on bumps and during torsion front left. They are last thing left basically. I don't have keyless entry. They 2 keys are nice though each one remembers all the settings from the last time used. The radio starts before you put in ignition. Their is a secret hidden button on inside of steering wheel for heated. Also the rear view mirror is electric with 18 way. I also don't have electric rear blinds. In looked at Tom Jones the famous singers old V10 TDI lwb with 4 seats for sale.. That was top top spec but I didn't fancy the bigger and longer. Was a really nice car tho. Ps. 45mpg is possible on a run!
good video but how do you turn the AC, i read pagess 29-37 (2004) the car is at the shop getting refriderient refill but they need to compressor/AC set up ON . I have the car for years and still can not figure it out. i tried recirc mode and defoster mode .
Amazing.
Can you make a review about the Mitsubishi Pajero
Video on any skoda model please
That intro was funny.
I would love to import a V-10 2007 Phaeton if you could upgrade the infotainment screen to the 2014-16 model.
so are you sure we supposed to change the transmission fluid in the n63 every 50k miles? mine has 86k so far....so filter and fluide change is recommended?
I dont know which make your videos awesome, your accent or the content, i think the both
The content is absolutely great but I couldn't bear that accent as it was killing my ears.
VW PHAETON ~nice car
really very very good
l Love VW PHAETON
Hideous maintenance costs, buy Lexus LS, just as good to drive and more comfortable, plus really reliable
I've had the same LS for 22 years. Great! Had its first repair 2 mo. ago.
Won’t be more comfortable to drive but will definitely be more comfortable for your wallet.
As an owner of this car, I can tell you that this car is amazing, but the maintenance is expensive and God forbid if you have any repairs with this car.
Please make Review for HONDA PRELUDE
Make one for the Q7 pls
the first generation Q7 vid is here: czcams.com/video/04o6oK1J5fM/video.html
How to DISARM THE ENGINE IMMOBILIZER for 2002 VW Phaeton v8
would you buy this over a a8 d3 ???....why ???.......
Is there any audi Q7 4 L with manual gearbox? Cuz i so one on sale.. i want to know if is from factory or conversion and if is quattro.
yes there is - the Q7 with the 3.6 FSI engine was available with the manual box
man i know many 1.9 tdi , awx engine code that have more than 300.000 km from much long time, no problem with that engine ,and maybe that km are no real that engines possible to have more than that, i think vw only make one unbreakable engine 1.9, any engine code from 90 to 150
Should one buy one? A 2004 model? Would it be worth it?
From 2004?? Omg no. Don't do it...Or well I hope you didn't do it since your comment is 1 year old :D
Hi. Nope, God willing. Thank goodness for the upcoming EVs in 2021 and 2022:-) I think I like EVs now, coz' I'd love to breath fresh air, even in big cities.
I wana buy one. 2002 production year, W12 engine, 188 000 km, that is it it hasnt been meddled with. Oener says that It drives fine, but some electrical stuff should be worked on.
What do you think?
Stay far far away
how much is it?
Phaeton#
I owned 2003 Vw Phaeton 3.2, I liked it, but yes, always it have some problems, and always you can find what to fix. This is my owned Phaeton short video czcams.com/video/4Kg39IbwV90/video.html
Are you Hungarian?
Imperial Reaction yes, he is
Buying advice. DO NOT F... BUT IT. You're welcome :)
You just convinced me to not buy.
Moneypit
👍👍😍😍😍💕💕
The Accent XDDDD
is a good car but is a huge money pit
Is it a joe daki talking canot understand the language
Best advice for buying a VW Phaeton - Don´t!
Why? Personal experience? I'm considering buying so any heads up appreciated!
Sounds like passat is the better option lol
Man your english is a killer
Hes from poland bree
@@TheRazvy1990 i'm from Europe too but my English is like my native language..bree
@@thedonn138 :))))))
1) Crappy gearbox
2) Fuel consumption = son of gas station license.
Wow too many problem with this car..It seems this car brand is simply not reliable at all...
VWs are good cars. Almost all luxury cars have more problems since they have more features that can break.
@@tjallaballa huh really.. ok noted. Tq bro
Yep, there are too many problems with VWs. I don't care if it is the Jetta, Golf, Rabbit, or the higher end like this one. They are just annoyingly unreliable. A luxury car with little problems will be a Lexus. That is what I prefer to drive and own. VWs are great if you like to spend money on little broken things. Lots of fun.
Jezus Crist, Renault makes so much bether cars.
Basically.... Don't buy one.... Thanks save my money..
Just buy a Bentley!
Out of the frying pan......
always when you start talking in English my heart hurts and I do not know why🥴
that's not good
thanks for watching!
He is not English nor American
I'm english and I can understand this perfectly fine
Accent level: Rallye finnish.
@@differentcarreview-dcr haha i love your accent. Good video
Lesen to speak english