MIG vs Flux Cored Welding and when to use each
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- MIG (GMAW) and FCAW are often confused with one another by the home hobbyist welders. Many times it is due in part to the fact that most small MIG machines are also built for flux cored welding.
The truth of the matter is, that while you can do either process with your machine, there are two processes for a reason. In this video we will look at the biggest reason why a home hobbyist would choose one process over another.
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I see people criticizing Paul’s welds. I’m 68, and I’m not quite as steady as I was. Are they bad welds? Well, rarely, but it does happen. Paul happens to be very knowledgeable, more so than his critics. If his welds are not what they used to be, that’s natural, as he’s also an older guy. Most of his welds are just fine. Occasionally, they may be marginal. But that’s not even the point. His explanations of what he’s doing are valuable. It’s too bad if he’s not doing this anymore.
Mel Gross I wouldn't worry about those critics, their day WILL come.
Mel Gross agreed sir.
I agree Mel. I was the base oxy/accel welder in Vietnam (all we had) I got a setup as soon as I got home and did the gas and stick since. I kind of got away from welding in the past years as I couldn’t see what it was doing with my bifocal glasses. By accident I found cheapo readers really helped me. I just recently while doing body work was frustrated with gas welding and just bought a small MiG setup that’s why I’m here and this 70yr old is trying to once again learn all he can.
Engineer here, more major construction projects than I care to remember.
Good welders are mostly in attitude. This guy is passing on knowledge and wisdom. Take that for what it is.
@ that is very sad to hear a mans pride is his welds I hope your grand pop the best sounds like a great guy
A quality weld isn't always a pretty weld and a pretty weld isn't always a quality weld.
Perfection is impossible as long as you are human.
I really appreciate these older videos and the wisdom of the previous presenters on the channel. And everlast really has come a long way in a short period of time too.
I love that you guys actually explain the difference between the processes instead of crapping on one VS another. An unexpected recent expansion to my company became onsite trailer repairs. I've actually enjoyed learning the flux core process. I can make great looking strong repairs while being able to run off a generator working outside and not having to worry about gas and whatnot.
I also like flux.
It handles like MIG but welds like 7018.
Sir... you literally MAKES ME CRY just by being the who you are! I wish my grandpa was around still and even he would learn a thing or two with your videos (did I mention that I loved (and still do) my grandpa?) I never welded anything before and now I found myself having to deal with everything related to it from what machine/process I have to buy to what results am aiming for and I can tell ya... It’s not easy. If anybody ever did say anything to the down side of your videos, let them be, coz they are probably the kind of people that needs to do that so they can carry on with their day and cover their lack of respect and self confidence. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE WAY YOU EXPLAIN THINGS AND THE WAY YOU USE THE WORDS TO EXPLAIN IT! Your videos makes a guy like me , that knows nothing about the subject , feel like a pro. THANK YOU
This guy knows his stuff and describes it perfectly. Any thumbs downers are trolls that are pretty much brainless. Keep up the great videos and we will follow and learn. Thanks for sharing and take care!
Exactly right! On that note, Funny how the amount of thumbs down doesn’t show up anymore. Anyone ever think to themselves why that is? You should.
CZcams hides the thumbs down because they were embarrassed at just how many people dislike stupid politicians and woke b.s. And feminism propaganda and the alphabet community and all the other stoopid crap they try to shove down our throats.
Agreed. 28 years of production welding and I always watch these great teachers from this great channel. This guy is a master welder hands down.
@@zerubbabelsbridge Amen to that. Look at how they had the ball to delete 500000 videos of public information that they called conspiracy theories.
Very interesting video, informative and on point. What I would like to add is that there is some disparity about the costs of the 2 processes. I bought a small flux core welder for under $100. A similar MIG unit would run almost $400 more, not counting the bottle. As a hobbyist, the flux core does what I need. Thanks for sharing.
this answered my questions perfectly. Im a metal sculptor and my biggest issue was the smoke cleaning from hard to reach areas, also the splatter balls. it looks like investing the extra couple hundred is a good idea for my lungs and the quality of my welds. Also this guy has a cool personality, i dig it
I like this guy very knowledgeable. It’s too bad the trolls flap their gums
Trolls live under bridges for a reason. Their trolls lol...
The old timer might be flapping his gums but he's spitting out some knowledge .hes been around for a while.you might learn something instead of commenting on something you don't know anything about but wish you did
Spanner monkey stick with the straight mig . Flux core is very messy and hard to clean.if your outside and worried about the wind shield yourself with some cardboard.you won't regret it.i also am an oldtimer
@@mitchellbarnett6202 He wasn't saying the guy in the video was. He was talking about the people making negative comments.
I'm just learning to weld, using a wirefeed. Just finished my first project, which went pretty well after practicing for a few days. I found your video really helpful. Thank you.
Thanks Paul for such a plain,simple and informative video. I just picked up a mig welder and all welders tell me is,”Go to gas”. Your very easy to listen to and I’m looking forward to seeing more of your videos,and thanks again,Lester
Flux core is just fine it’s gets a bad rap but it runs very good
How do you know the guy's genuine? When they leave the "melding wig" slip and the fart in the video...you know the man is not full of crap...outstanding! Seriously thanks for the humor while I'm learning. Great video.
Though have done gas welding and cutting on rough projects, my pit barbecue setup for one, I just purchased my first 180 A wire arc welder. Of the video series I have looked at in preparation this is the most useful I have come across for getting up to speed quickly and building on a little base knowledge. Thanks so much for your efforts to bring the information together clearly and concisely.
I’m very new to welding, and I really appreciate the thorough explanation. Well done, and THANKS!
We literally watched this guy's videos in my welding classes at Community College.
This channel is an excellent resource.
I think Paul's weld are fine, especially for the sake of an instructional video created to highlight the differences/advantages/similarities between basic gas and flux core welding (indoors and out). He does a great job of answering a number of common questions in one concise video. Thanks Paul!
been watching videos for weeks trying to figure out the difference between mig and flux, this video is super helpfully
This was a really good video, clearly explained . thanks
Great video, thanks Paul. I've been trying to decide for some time which type to go for as a beginner hobbyist. I don't have an indoor shop so now I've seen your video I'm set on going flux core which will meet my needs just fine. Thanks again 👍
If you want to get different process get a stick welder. Even if its a 110. You can do more than just steel
That, sir, is a PERFECT informative video which is to the point and concise. Thank you for your knowledge and expertise. I will subscribe with respect to you. 👍🏻
Thanks Paul for some very basic and fundamental facts to flux core and gas welding. I’ve just started my hand at welding with mig using flux core. Almost everyone I talk to tries to discourage me from using it and go to gas. First time I’ve seen any of your videos and really wnjoyed
thanks for the video! i appreciate you and your time. i’m currently practicing with fluxcore and mig and cussing at tig and if it’s thick and my multi process harbor freight is broken then i will go back to the stick. u guys on this channel are awesome and i just wanted to say thank you for your knowledge and your willingness to help and pass it along 🤘🏼
Thank you for the great explanation and for sharing your knowledge. A true gentleman.
Thanks Paul. Great explanation on the basics that this beginner hobbyist didn't understand.
1st video that really explains. Especially for a beginner
Thank you very much. Really useful and educational. Great filming as well.
i use a ryobi cordless fan when using the flux core wire indoors to blow the smoke away from me just some things to try. great video
Your concise and simple explanations are refreshing in these days of extended long streams of words by many.
PHIL , I was in pre-law in high skool, Euclid, Ohio. Then pre factory work, then
beginning mechanics. The brief explanation is helpful, yet I practice
at mechanical stuff over & over. Riding
Bicycle to save nickel and dime for
either 6011 3/32 in. Rod. , vertical up
on Chevy Van box beam rusty area weldment. 115 Volt stick ? Used to 220
beginner stick Hobart. Mom moved,
and rather freeze 6011 then freeze 4 months.
Im so Glad you guys left in the Melding Wig. 😂😂😂👍
Thank you very much for sharing your time with us making knowledgeable videos. Greatly appreciated. God bless you brotha.
I have a Miller Multimatic if needed to weld out side I would use stick welding before going to flux core welding. Stick welding has a lot of advantages espacilly in maintenance over the others. The main thing in maintenance is the ability to use non-prepped metal even welding through paint and rust when you have to get something up and running as quickly as possible.
Thank you sir, excellent video, straight to the point, clear, concise info. Very helpful without wasting my time just to hear yourself talk.
Thanks! I am new to mig welding, was hoping to find a video that was straight forward. This video made sence to me! I highly dought that any person welding anything would be a hobby person! Lol :) I am really good at arc welding, I hope my arc welding skill will help me move into welding with this mig welder alot more seamless than without, thanks for the explanation of what to expect from the welding wire
So just to update! I tried mig welding tonight and the work turned out perfect. Must have been the years of arc welding that paid off. I went straight to using the wire with the shielding gases and you where correct that they throw off smoke, nothing in comparison as when I use my arc welder so that was pleasant and I exhausted the smoke outside! Happy welding EVERYONE!
when i see this beautiful old guy i just press like :)
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE IM 65 AND WILL BE LEARNING HOW TO MIG WELD, GAS WELDED AND STICK WELDED ALL MY LIFE AND I MASTERED GAS WELDING ,BUT WOULD LIKE TO TRY THIS, THE LOOKS OF THE WELD DOESNT DETERMINED THE STRENGTH OF WELD GOOD PENETRATION IS KEY AND WISDOM COMES WITH AGE ,EXPERIENCE AND MAKING MISTAKES THATS HOW YOU MASTER THINGS
It's completely informative for my education. I've dabbled with welding before. But now I have a Flux/mig welder. I've forged knives for several years and welding is a different animal.
Informative video for a rookie like me. Appreciate the time taken to fully explain the different processes.
of all the videos I've recently watched trying to decide on my first welder, this one made the most sense to me. Thanks! Also, LOL at "melding wig".... that was funny
I enjoy your videos and the knowledge you share! Thank you kindly
Very informative in difference between MIG and self-shielded welding! Thank you.
Helpful video for those who are inexperienced. It should maybe be noted that the FCAW wire is a more costly product than the solid core bare wire mig wire. Perhaps a comparison of the different types of mig (or mag) shielding gases, and their relative costs, would be helpful as well.
Thanks for that great explanation between mig and flux core. So far I have been just using the flux core but however I now have a bottle of gas to try out the mig on a calm day - I have no shop so everything is done in the back yard. The bottle I have is strictly co2. I haven’t tried it yet so I really don’t know what to expect.
Outstanding video as always. I’m finally going to move up from flux core to a welding process that uses gas. I have some experience with MIG, but I’m leaning more towards TIG due to its versatility and appearance.
As for the peanut gallery, if you clowns could weld better than Paul, you wouldn’t be clicking on an entry level instructional video like this.
Thank you very much for a very good video and explanation between Mig and flux welding I watch all your videos thank you
THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR GREAT INFO- FLUX CORED IS WHAT I WILL NEED BECAUSE MOST OF MY WELDING WILL BE OUTDOORS MAKING A NEW FENCE AROUND MY HOME BECAUSE MARIA DESTROY THE FENCE WE HAD , I WILL BUILD A SQUARE STEEL TUBE FENCE THAT WILL BE 3 TIMES STRONGER THEN WHAT WE HAD, AGAIN THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WELDING
one more thing i would suggest when you a re going to do fluxcore is to change your gun nozzle to one made specifically for fluxcore. if you use the standard mig nozzle with fluxcore, you will inevitably have to replace it along with your contact tip as the slag and spatter from the fluxcore process will find it's way into the small holes that feed your mig gas through the nozzle
thanks for sharing your accumulated expertise !
This was great, very well explained, thank you!
Good & informative video....thanks Paul
Excellent instruction! Thank you!
I’m just learning this stuff. . You are very knowledgeable
Simply the best welding video. Thank you.
I'm not a young guy either, being 68. I'm trying to learn a little something so I can do what I need to here in my shop and my equipment. If it isn't perfect, who cares, as long as it isn't a dangerous weld. It's my shop and equipment and that's what counts.
Really enjoyed this video and got some good information out of it.
Thanks a bunch.
Thanks kindly Paul, I have a (think they call it) stick welder and I really like the wire driven type (I've only tried it once), but it was so much quicker & more convenient, then changing the electrode constantly, but it was gas (not flux cored) and by watching your demonstration, I see
that the flux cored wire driven type seems pretty much the same as gas, so again, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
Very well explained. I have some knowledge in welding but I didn't understand the benefits of each process and I feel like I have a much better understanding now. I work in the construction industry and I see alot of stick welding and what I now know is self shielded aka flux core. I want to learn to weld and I'll most definitely be using this channel to learn some tips and tricks but ultimately the best way is just to start.
Awesome !!! Best video i have seen on mig welding!!
Would have loved having you as my instructor in school !
Reminds me of my father, He was a welder all his working life, Real old school but with welding you never learn it all !
There is nobody who melds a wig better than you! Love your videos. Thank you..
this guy is the best welding teacher 👍👍
Thank you! Very informative video!
Thanks for taking time for video and explanation
9:45 🤣. Awesome video!
Hahahaha
Great demo, thanks for the info.
‘Wonderful video, great help. Thank you
Kevin
Awesome video! Like the he breaks information down.
great video, thanks for posting
Excellent video. Now I know how to meld wigs perfectly :)
Thank for valuable information!
I’m new to welding
But try hard to learn
Just got me a miller 141 to learn
Really clear, many thanks 👍
Thanks for the clear explanations!
thanks for the tutorial
Welding is very hard. Great video my friend !
great stuff guys.
Great video, love the way you teach, thank you so much.
Hay Paul, thank you so much for this video, I’m a biker and needed some expert advice on what sort of welder to get for a few fabricating jobs I need, some frame modifications and a few brackets to make and didn’t know whether to go gas mig or flux core, and you have totally given me everything I need to be confident with flux core. Indoor or out if needed, and no gas bottle hassles, definitely flux core for me. I’m assuming I just need to try and best match the wire the to metal I’m working with. Thanks so much. Rich from the U.K.
If you can afford it go gas my English brother. From down under Australia
I hope you went for a gas welder, they give nice clean welds and most can easily be converted to flux core if needed, and they often have a lower power range which is good for thin materials. I have a flux core only and I consider it a waste of money, although it's a cheap one -my old arc welder gets much better welds.
Excellent video - thanks
Thanks so much. You would make a great class based instructor ;)
9:56 onto video you laid a pretty good far good sir. Well done & awesome video!!
Great video. Very informative. Thank you.
This fella is awesome.
My first home welding machine was a MIG/FCAW/GMAW combo ($300 Amazon Special).
Innershield Flux was great for just starting out because I didn't need to buy tanks of shielding gas.
Thanks for the informative video
Excellent presentation. My thoughts are that MIG has the advantage of being able to weld additional metals, for example Aluminum, is generally a cleaner weld and can be used on thinner materials. FCAW has the advantages of not being affected by the wind, can have a higher heat input to weld thicker materials but has a higher spatter problem. The spatter problem can be minimized by proper wire wire speed and voltage settings as well as through the use of anti-spatter sprays.
Thanks mate, better welds than I'll ever be able to do
Prepping your material is very important,clean the rust the paint,and dry.also get comfortable,and and as close as possible to your work area so you have a good view of what your doing.in time your welds will look good
Well I went to subs and I was already subed 👍 A lot of great information here for sure
Awesome video. very helpful
Thanks for the video, very informative
Great video thank you Sir!
Great video very helpful . Thank you
Awsome, thank you for sharing.
Thank you for your knowledge it was most helpful
Its really has bean informative. Thanks a lot for making time to make the video. I have no experience in welding and have a question hopefully that i can get an answer. While doing MIG welding, if the out rim of the welding gun (the metal cover shielding the welding wire) touches the welding material, does it generate sparks? If it does not, can this outer part be rested on the welding material; if you don't have a steady hand?
Great Instructor Sir, please identify also what are the defects. Thank you
Thank you for this video!!!!
Thanks, great information. ;) Hello from Victoria Canada eh.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Thanks Paul!
thanks, pop, i definitely learned something
Nice demo! TY!
Thank you sir I appreciate your help