Air Disasters: Death and Denial 🛬 Full Episode
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2023
- EgyptAir Flight 990 was on a routine flight when, en route to Cairo, the plane suddenly lost altitude and plunged towards the water. Tragically, the Boeing 767 slammed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, killing all 217 people on board. After the October 31, 1999 plane crash, the Egyptian government asked the American NTSB to handle the investigation. As investigators raced to find the cause, they had to consider every option. Was it a mechanical failure, or an intentional human maneuver that caused the plane to crash?
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As an experienced pilot, it is plain to me that Batouti obviously did it:
1) No flying pilot is going to say NOTHING when the Captain returns and asks him what is going wrong. Impossible.
2) It is beyond "coincidence" that a modern airliner in straight-and-level AUTOPILOT flight over the ocean SUDDENLY develops an aberrant control motion only WHILE THE OTHER 2 CREW-MEMBERS ARE OUT OF THE COCKPIT. Not believable.
3) No flying pilot will ignore such a sudden "control malfunction" for 15 seconds before taking any action whatsoever. Impossible.
4) No working professional pilot, ever, has volunteered (with unusual eagerness and forcefulness) to "take over" the 1st shift only 20 minutes into the flight. Impossible. We all know what a rest cycle is and what it is there for.
What a despicable excuse for a man to take all those other people with him.
Plus all the engines were shut off
Well said
Can I ask you a question please
@@zBean Circumstantial at best.
How about MH370, and the Ethiopian crash? I guess you could easily find a million indisputable piece of evidence that they were suicides or pilot incompetence too. Let me guess, you are a person of Anglo origin. You guys are good in exploiting the weak, in this case, the dead. It is in your nature. Apologies if I'm wrong.
Captain El-Habashi had been with Egypt Air for 36 years and had been flying for even longer than that, and despite being 57 years old, with the aircraft at an extremely unusual attitude pulling negative g’s, managed to get back to the cockpit and into his seat. He put everything he had into the fight to save his plane and his passengers, even after undoubtedly learning that the man beside him who was supposed to be helping him, was actually trying to bring the plane down.
All the more tragic that Egypt Air and Egyptian government, in its effort to save face for a murderous Al-Batouti, never fully recognized the truly heroic efforts of Captain El-Habashi.
True, it was done intentionally.
What are you talking about? Egyptian investigators said it was technical problem with the plane, not the suicidal captain
@@Redguard677 Not sure if you are trying to be sarcastic or not, but it was a suicidal captain; not a technical problem.
Without a doubt he was crashing the plane. I thought that the Captain chair was able to override the 1st officers controls of the plane
Great comment James, wow this is terrible..Why would someone do such a thing 😢
I really respect the real Captain. He tried to save everyone😢
Captain El-Habashi had been with Egypt Air for 36 years and had been flying for even longer than that, and despite being 57 years old, with the aircraft at an extremely unusual attitude pulling negative g’s, managed to get back to the cockpit and into his seat. He put everything he had into the fight to save his plane and his passengers, even after undoubtedly learning that the man beside him who was supposed to be helping him, was actually trying to bring the plane down.
All the more tragic that Egypt Air and Egyptian government, in its effort to save face for a murderous Al-Batouti, never fully recognized the truly heroic efforts of Captain El-Habashi.
where is the evidence to say for sure that it was Al-Batouti who crashed the plane?@@jamesm3471
@@jamesm3471😂
Word up
but all the rest of the crew were just sitting there praying? what type of the mentality is that?
I am supremely scandalised and embarrassed by the Egyptian investigators. May God judge them.
A coward in life and a coward in death taking others with him.
At the end, one of his supporters says "this is a simple plane crash." There is no such thing as a simple plane crash.
actually, there is.
I wonder why they put 33 officers and scientists on one flight?
@@saeedalkitbe4766 he mess them up 😢
@@drats1279No. Actually there aren’t.
I said the exact same thing. There's always multiple factors involved.
I understand his family not wanting to accept their father was responsible, I understand them living in denial because they don’t want to believe their father was a sexual deviant who harassed women constantly, but everyone else can see what truly happened and I feel bad for his family living in that much denial. It’s a horrible truth, to recognise their father was a deviant in this way, how he harassed women constantly, and that he chose to crash the plane on purpose after being told he was being fired.
He was a selfish man who only thought of himself, he harassed women because he was selfish, he crashed the plane because he didn’t want to live in shame because he was selfish, and his crimes were covered up for a time because the airline were selfish. Just selfishness all around.
Indeed. A sex-pest and possibly a mass-murderer. However, people should try and be kind in their comments here because even if this is true, it is not their fault. It must be very difficult for them to live with the loss of their father and such allegations against him.
I think the family is vile, especially that nephew. He looks slimy too, and there’s something very annoying about him. It’s pretty obvious to anyone watching or who’s looked into this case it was suicide by pilot and murder-suicide, so being in denial in the face of this is very ridiculous, makes them look silly, and is also a bit of a slap in the face and egregious to the victims themselves (they’re dead so it doesn’t matter really) but the victim’s families. The level of delusional - especially that publicly maintained - is very irritating to me.
@@Uvray people should try and be kind to people maintaining a bald faced lie that even they know is probably ridiculous (because no one can surely be that delusional and ignorant and in denial?)? It’s pretty audacious, a slap in the face to the victim’s families and the victim’s memory, and insulting too. There’s no honour in that, and no respect is deserved. That nephew grinds my gears.
I hope the victims watch this show and develop their own truth to it and Batouti’s family come out of denial and claiming it as just an accident. It was never proven it was the sheared elevators.
@@Uvray ó😊😊
This was 100% intentional and the Eqyptians only proposed an alternative to cover up the failure of their actions.
yeah, me being Egyptian im outraged that they tried making their own circumstances (this is like the 1st time im not on my country's side)
@@Apollo-hs3trit is known that they tried to cover up. I worked in aviation in Egypt during this time.
100% hmmmmm.
@@Apollo-hs3tr You should not believe what the officials say these days.
First, the man oddly insisted strongly on changing his flight spot for no apparent reason - Second, for what possible reason would you EVER shut down ALL the engines while flying over the ocean at night, that guarantees the plane crashing into the ocean, then add the fact he refused to answer the other pilot or pull back on his control yoke - no this man had a death/revenge wish and didnt care if he took a plane full of innocent people with him because of his personal problems that he created himself - he was mentally unstable no matter how you try to dance around it.
Please understand that in Islam If you Kill non believers ( Khafir) you will go in Haven and get 72 Hoors ( Virgins) . The way the FO ( Al Batuti ) behaved with Women employees in Hotels and the fact that he was not going to be flying again to America, he may be upset and following his religious beliefs that Killing other people will help him go to Haven. He purposely shut the engine to crash in the sea, he even did not reply to the Captain when he asked him what happened because he was trying to Crash the plane. This is the reason why the Egypt Government does not want to accept that it was Al Batutis fault . You will see the same behaviour in Malaysia Government for Malaysian Flight 370 disappeared in 2014.
They in the middle east are VERY vindictive folks. No one can argue that. All one has to do is look at history and how they are/act... Getting back at people is in their dna
Yea,suicide for sure
I agree. If something was wrong with the plane than he should have told the captain when he was asked. He kept pushing the control yoke down instead of up.
Lol you don't kill ppl remembering god
There has never been a clearer case if pilot suicide. A vile act, which has destroyed thousands of lives.
Clear case? When FBI stops all mutual investigations just to shake Egyptian side of, then paying some guys to publicly talk bs about the First Officer?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
There’s another case
germanwings flight 9525
Want to bet Boeing has a part in this story.?
Much respect for Captain El-Habashi, and First Officer Adel Anwar. For the First Officer for wanting to stand his ground and remain in his seat, and the Captain for his heroic efforts to try to save everyone.
And captain Taha
Good points. Altho the capt didn't stand up to Batouti's wheedling, did he?
The Egyptian investigators should be ashamed of themselves. Such disrespect to those who died on the plane.
Egyptians are STILL as evil as they were to us Jews thousands of years ago‼️🤬
You sure who the liars are?
In the Middle East, the Egyptians are considered to be the dumbest of the dumb...
I'm Egyptian and I can say I'm 99 sure Americans lied about the co piolet guy
@@lola_103 Stop sniffing glue.
He did crash it into the Atlantic.
That's why he went into the Cockpit so early, and chased away the young First Officer.
Please understand that in Islam If you Kill non believers ( Khafir) you will go in Haven and get 72 Hoors ( Virgins) . The way the FO ( Al Batuti ) behaved with Women employees in Hotels and the fact that he was not going to be flying again to America, he may be upset and following his religious beliefs that Killing other people will help him go to Haven. He purposely shut the engine to crash in the sea, he even did not reply to the Captain when he asked him what happened because he was trying to Crash the plane. This is the reason why the Egypt Government does not want to accept that it was Al Batutis fault . You will see the same behaviour in Malaysia Government for Malaysian Flight 370 disappeared in 2014.
Only Egypt disputes this and despite that unnofficially Egyptair adopted the two person rule, if a pilot leaves the cockpit, a flight attendant must stay with the remaining pilot to make sure nothing happens.
Same goes for Malaysian Airlines, despite in Malaysia it being still doubted that MH370 was flown into the ocean by the captain, they instated a two person rule shortly afterwards and after Germanwings not long ago the two person rule became a global standard. The reinforced doors help people keep out quite well since 9/11. But sometimes that's a problem when the pilot is locked out.
But everyone except those involved have long accepted that both Egyptair 990 and MH370 were deliberate acts the relief FO and the Cpt. MH370 we still miss the wreckage to conclusively prove it but not Egyptair 990. Mass murder in both cases.
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l Or at least pilot error right? Dead men can't defend themselves, you know full well and exploit it..Haha you guys are great.
There should never be a case where someone is left alone in the cockpit of a passenger airliner. Ever.
Why not. If the pilot is reliable, and if autopilot is working. The other pilot should only quit for few minutes
@@Omer1996E.C not always there was a German airline where a pilot was left alone and crashed the plane by will. Plus it’s not hard to have a FA in the cockpit it’s a law now
@@Omer1996E.C No pilot is 100% reliable. There have been several cases of pilots ditching planes deliberately.
I think it's smart, because sometimes people slip through the cracks in the system. Reports are falsified or forgotten, records are not updated. People's mental health information is often overlooked or overclassified
@@Omer1996E.C because the lone pilot could become incapacitated. They had an incident on another airplane in the states (Not sure which one, sorry) that the first officer HAD TO lock the captain out of the cockpit because he was having a psychotic breakdown. Tough call and some airlines allow the head flight attendant to stay in the cockpit. Just too much can be left to chance.
They tried so hard to blame the equipment. NTSB nailed this case, they were right.
I feel so disgusted by his family's and the Egyptian president's efforts to cover up for one man while disregarding the many lives lost because of one man's selfishness.
The fact alone that he was eager to fly the plane alone should already be more than enough to convince anyone that he's planning to do something really bad.
Especially after take off 20 min later coming to chase first officer out would have been a clear sign something is off and the young first officer should have point blank said no...
@@michaelmuya3013how the FO could say no?! The guy was older and flight instructor.
Who said it was captain?
Not surprising considering it was Mobarak
He was never going to fly the plane. He was first officer, not the one flying at the time. The plane was in auto-pilot and he took control when the opportunity presented itself.
I can't believe they gave him the key to the plane after they told him he would be fired when he got back. I mean seriously right now?
Captain Taha's interview makes it crystal clear that Al Batuti intentionally crashed Egypt Air 990 and killed all on board. It's shocking when the airline EgyptAir itself revealed to all its employees that this wasn't an accident but the Egyptian investigators keep denying...
Quick lost in control seconds after that stupid Captain decided to go.
Yes it was not an accident but an offensive hostile action specially when you know who was on board. Don’t you know that the tail unit was destroyed by means of a missile and that is why the plane dived. To cover the dirty act they declared that the captain committed suicide. One of the black boxes was recovered but they claimed it fell from the robot’s handle and was destroyed although the resistance of this box is below nuclear explosion. Imagine these dirty lies against a dead man that can not defend himself. Go back to history and check different lies Saïd to explain dirty actions like the suicidal act of Marlene Monroe and the nuclear scientist professor Almashad or Nabaweya Mousa. I am really astonished that you enforce their dirty story.
I have no trouble in believing that an Egyptian could be guilty - especially the Egyptian government considered. Sad. Stay away.
yes, he was too insistent to take the wheel
@@soavemusica u
The reason why Egypt is in denial that he purposely crashed the jet, goes back to the old saying. Sometimes the truth hurts. And sometimes people deny the truth, because it hurts.
I have also heard about the forked tongue.
The real reason was something way older, money.
Admitting it was murder would have made EgyptAir fully liable. So they tried to put the blame on boeing.
For anyone to say Egyptians or Muslims never commit suicide is ridiculous! We are all human, regardless of anything else. We are all the same; we all have the same emotions from time to time.
"yeah, they would never commit suicide, but genocide? were all for that!"
They invented the suicide bomber,right?
@@teenieneenie630 yeah like wtf?
Suicide is sin in islam but suicide for killing others for allah is a virtue. Bloody bastards. And Allah offers gifts in the heaven for ''supporting muslims even if they have committed wrong things ''. This bastard religion must be wiped out from the surface of earth.
True !!!
I blame management who tells a pilot getting on an aeroplane he will potentially fly that he will be fired.
I agree - few managers have insight into the employee psyche and internal workings of the people that they are supposed to "manage". The term "manager" is a much maligned term. It should rather be but licking sociopaths who does not care about anyone but themselves. A true leader will never be called a "manager".
Three months put the man on pre-retirement leave.
that in no way justifies what the pilot did, or any of his prior misconduct
Exactly.
That was poor management.
for real. Don't let the guy fly if you've already decided to fire him and DEFINITELY don't tell him until he lands at least.
He tried so hard to be left alone. He crashed the plane intentionally 😡
Lol he tried to kill himself?? This is nonsense
@@yazenahmedplayzgamesn81919no it’s not. The freak commuted suicide.
@@DubaisLifestyleLocator oh sorry I didn't watch the whole video
@@DubaisLifestyleLocatoryeah and the absolute stupid clown 🤡🤡 decided to end everyone else's lives as well! Absolutely stupid clown 🤡🤡 he was. Well, I'm glad he's dead but I'm not at all glad that he decided to purposely take the lives of others
@@yazenahmedplayzgamesn81919 if u didn't watch it till the end then don't reply
The man put himself before every woman at the hotel, and put himself before anybody on that plane. A true scoundrel.
Egypt wrote the narrative they wanted to hear and then desperately tried to manufacture circumstances which supported it.
If the decision had been made that this was his last flight to America, why even let him be in a position to control the aircraft ???
Why would he have been allowed to be on the flight at all???
This is my second time listening to this case and I'm still feeling very angry and disbelieve how someone can be so selfish!
Same!
Very very selfish
If you want to die do one final unselfish act and don't take anyone with you. This guy was disgusting.
Absolutely
The more I learn about people, the more I love dogs.
I guess I'm not the only one obsessed with watching these videos
I generally only watch them when I'm about to get on a plane.
Is something wrong with us?!
But I’ll never fly!
No, you're not!!!
It's crazy that until a few years ago, I was beyond terrified to fly and would have terrible panic attacks during the entire flight. And that's after taking Xanax and lots of vodka!!! After tons of prayer and research, I'm not longer afraid. Now I'm obsessed with these videos!!
I can understand, it must be really hard to believe your father committed suicide and brought hundreds of people with him.But they need to face the truth, so they can be in peace with their father.
its honestly more of a mass murdery and suicide, he could have hanged himself but he intentionally chose to bring a few hundred of people with him which would make it even more difficult on the family.
Seriously, if I was his son, I would lost my empathy for him. What a selfish guy
I agree. It also seems that they didn’t want to believe that their father lived this double life in secret for years.
@@giapaul7973 You have a double life?
But what if he's innocent? And Americans fabricated facts about him
RIP every innocent soul on board. What a mental case flying for 36 years then taking a plane down full of passengers.
The NTSB nailed it. I wonder if he was more embarrassed about explaining to his family why he was getting fired (for harassing women) of if he was just really set on killing the chief pilot. Either way, there was no reason to take everybody with him.
He was I'm financial ruins also which didn't help..
because he is a coward and only think about himself harassing women and being a sexual deviant also a coward I hope he is in hell burning forever cannot run nowhere if their is such a place
The NTSB stopped short of calling it suicide --
Probable Cause
The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of
the EgyptAir flight 990 accident is the airplane's departure from normal cruise flight and
subsequent impact with the Atlantic Ocean as a result of the relief first officer's flight
control inputs. The reason for the relief first officerís actions was not determined.
there was to him.
Please understand that in Islam If you Kill non believers ( Khafir) you will go in Haven and get 72 Hoors ( Virgins) . The way the FO ( Al Batuti ) behaved with Women employees in Hotels and the fact that he was not going to be flying again to America, he may be upset and following his religious beliefs that Killing other people will help him go to Haven. He purposely shut the engine to crash in the sea, he even did not reply to the Captain when he asked him what happened because he was trying to Crash the plane. This is the reason why the Egypt Government does not want to accept that it was Al Batutis fault . You will see the same behaviour in Malaysia Government for Malaysian Flight 370 disappeared in 2014.
A red flag should've went up to the Captain when the relief 1st Officer forced himself prematurely into Adel's Amour's shift. Also, the Captain should not have allowed that handover nor should he have left the cockpit with El Batouty alone before his shift officially started. The pilots were too laxed.
You are correct if they had the USDOT Federal Aviation Administration two persons in cockpit rule what will happen is that the relief Captain would have been with El Batouty and then return to the seat with the actual captain being back on the seat.
I think this accident happened before the implementation of the two person cockpit rule. That rule came in around 2016 after Andreas lubitz flew the A320 into the alps on purpose.
You will never know . But new rules has been implemented so it won’t happen .
@@godloves1821 Only after other deaths.
Good point and correct however the guy was obviously a trusted soul amoung his peers.
Saying that "Egyptians don't commit suicide" ...really shows that Denial (da Nile) is more than just a river
Because Egypt usually chooses to blame the equipment. It’s much more likely the NTSB is right. Sadly, the disagreements prevented measures that could’ve been in place to prevent other pilot suicides like Germanwings Flight 9525.
Actually that one could have been prevented if the did look into the African siical guy
Egypt had a culture of such reverence for pilots, likely from the Arab-Israeli wars, that they couldn't bring themselves to say a pilot had deliberately crashed a plane.
Undoubtedly they were afraid that everyone would be afraid to trust Egyptian pilots after that if they admitted it. But if the company had acknowledged its error in letting him fly after being fired, that would have prevented that outcome.
I understand why they're in denial but they're not above normal humans.
The real hero of the story was the captain who did everything to save the plane and he deserves to be remembered.
1st officer knew that old coot was up to something.
I just never understand people who want to take other people’s lives when they take their own. Like come on. That’s so selfish.
But some ppl would surely be happy with the unexpected payout!
Makes it easier if you take a bunch of people with you as you die. The same reason royalty used to kill all their servants and have them buried with them; to feel important.
@@Fuzzle1985 oh shut up
Also, if you see any Egyptian on your comments, just don't reply. They will only believe what is government said to them.
It’s the equivalent of a toddlers temper tantrum. They’re “punishing society” for not conforming to their self important narrative.
If it wasn't on purpose why did he kill the engines.
His faith as a Muslim was so strong and rock solid that when he killed the engines he wanted Allah to fly the plane miraculously. Strong faith
@@hugovelasco3186that is racist and no it is cuz he didn't want someone to recover the plane.
@@hugovelasco3186LOL right
@@Nimbus342 lol he was being sarcastic. And Islam is a religion not a race, so your racism argument is false.
@@PorousG That's not how you do sarcasm also why are you replying to a 4 month old comment? Mind your own business dawg.
Wow, i feel real sad when i was watching this, The real captain tried to save everyone but failed :(
My condolences to the families🙏
The nephews total denial of his uncles obvious suicidal mission is totally irrelevant.
He had no inside expert knowledge of the thorough and professional findings by the NTSB - only a loyal belief in his uncles innocence and that counts for nothing.
Really Sad that a man could intentionally do something so cruel 😢
If FO El Batouty wanted to take his own life, that's his prerogative but to murder the others on the plane shows a level of evil, narcissistic deprivation well beyond his alleged deviant sexual proclivity.
Hell awaits him
He did not behave how Captains should be, he wanted to fly so bad, he crashed the flight intentionally... my heart goes out to the captain who did his beat
Such a big loss when you hear that they were a number of pilot too on board it's very sad.
Unrecoverable situation. Engines off in a dive over the ocean at night. He didn't lock the door because there was no need. It's a miracle thw captain made it back in. It's unfortunate he was beginning to realise it was deliberate. Instead of fighting the airliner he should fought the FO, then control could have been regained but likely too late to restart any engines so either way it would have been an ocean ditching at night. Extremely unlikely to be succesful.
The captain almost saved the day he died a hero
He could've saved the plane if he had figure out the copilot was intentionaly trying to crash the plane.
That man didn't die with honor as his son said, and he absolutely did not live with honor. What a belligerent dirtbag. Egypt Air sadly got what they deserve by allowing the bad behavior, unfortunately the innocent people didn't deserve what they got.
Pride is a hell of a thing. What the nephew said explains it all "IT was a simple plane crash" but then follows it up with "Its a cover up" if they are covering something up then it isnt a simple plane crash. They just dont want to admit that a man that was held up on the highest pedestal would do such a horrible thing. That he wouldnt just unalive himself, but take hundreds of other people with him to avoid the consequences of his actions.
ALL: "Let's investigate the case'
Egypt: "DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. YOU WORRY TOO MUCH"
I disagree with Al-Batouti's nephew. It is not unusual for someone who is suicidal to act perfectly normally. Families are often in shock because they had no idea that their loved one was even depressed, let alone wanting to take their own life. Sadly, I've known seven people who committed suicide - all men, mostly under 35yrs old - and in only one case was the family aware that there was a risk. One of those young men was on holiday with a group of friends, larking around on the beach just like all the others. He excused himself and went back to his hotel and ended his life.
How can they possibly deny, all to protect image and reputation of one person, what that co-pilot did, both preceding and during the flight? It’s so clear to everyone else what this scenario was. I know suicide is huge sin in their culture, but to deny and try to drive the investigation away from the truth is wrong. So many lives lost, but they’re all out to protect the reputation of one. Disgraceful in my opinion.
Because in Egypt they hold their pilots as gods basically they’ll never blame them for anything. Especially if they were air force
Each president of Egypt has been a pilot
@@freyafoxmusic yeah, I gathered that. It’s just crazy to me. When one person is responsible for the loss of so many innocent lives, because their personal life was going through a bad patch, they should just hold up their hands and admit the truth. Just like they did with the co pilot of the Germanwings flight that deliberately crashed the aircraft full of passengers into the French mountains. I do realise culture plays a big part though.
@@Fleurbunny I think it’s almost all cultural pride. German wings well they’re German
@@freyafoxmusic very true!
Please understand that in Islam If you Kill non believers ( Khafir) you will go in Haven and get 72 Hoors ( Virgins) . The way the FO ( Al Batuti ) behaved with Women employees in Hotels and the fact that he was not going to be flying again to America, he may be upset and following his religious beliefs that Killing other people will help him go to Haven. He purposely shut the engine to crash in the sea, he even did not reply to the Captain when he asked him what happened because he was trying to Crash the plane. This is the reason why the Egypt Government does not want to accept that it was Al Batutis fault . You will see the same behaviour in Malaysia Government for Malaysian Flight 370 disappeared in 2014.
After you tell someone they are fired or going to be, you take away all their ability to retaliate. The Captain’s best chance in this situation would have been a chokehold. In addition, pilots now carry weapons. Egypt Air screwed up big time.
If he was fired he should've been escorted as a passenger back to egypt and not allowed to fly.
He should have not been allowed to board the plane with that info. Wait until he was back home, have HR fire him, demand any passes etc or keys and return his unform. You dont tell a person they are going to be fired b4 they board a plane for duty.
@@shimmer8289 like I said he should have been escorted as a passenger.
@@redrubytwilightxx8700 💯
@@shimmer8289Right! That's using common sense.
RIP to those who lost lives
And some who survived
@@julyanroldan3837no one survived the crash
The other shows. Not this one
@@julyanroldan3837 NO ONE survived this crash.
At 43:57, it seems he is projecting saying it is a cover up. I don't know what I would do is this situation if it was my relative. However, I feel the NTSB has a track record of reporting causes no matter if it makes Boeing, Airbus, etc look bad. It doesn't make sense why the NTSB would highlight shortcomings (in airplane design, pilot training, poor maintenance ) for so many accidents and try to cover it up for 1 exception.
The Egyptian government refusing to turn over info on the pilots background is more indicative of a cover up to me.
The actual cover up was on the part of the Egyptian government.
Because they are embarassed that their first officer would do such a thing
Im Egyptian and Im real disgusted on what the relief first officer did
Did you believe that faa interpret the way they went Boeing 737 max Ethiopian crash and Indonesian crash the said it was plots error all the time
If there was an issue with a hardover stabilizer, the plane would have not began to gain altitude after falling it would've gone straight into the ocean.
exactly the pilot crashed it
@@LeemWillsthe copilot
And the engines would not have been affected.
All that money towards investigation when it was crystal clear three minutes in this video that the so-called ladies' man was a crazy lunatic. Lesson learned: don't tell a pilot he's fired until after his last flight!!
RiP to all those poor souls minus the murderer.
This is such a sad, F*cked up event that didn’t need to happen. There were several good military personnel on board. Not to mention the retired couple that just wanted to finally travel. So many lives were lost all due to one persons selfishness. Just a sad situation.
When I worked in the airline, in situations where one of the pilots had to step out of the cockpit - a flight attendant had to go there. A pilot was never allowed to be in a cockpit by himself.
this crash may have prompted that rule.
But I wonder what could a flight attendant do if a pilot chooses to do something drastic?
@@GoGreen1977 Very good point. But I guess - better to have one in there than not to have one.
Yo this is the narrator from “I ALMOST GOT AWAY WITH IT”😂One of my fav show because of him
Nit-picking a small part of the video - the VSI (vertical speed indicator) would never spin around and around like that. The altimeter would, but the VSI would just peg at its max indication and stay there.
If only his bosses didn’t told him that this will be his last flight ✈️. They should have waited till he get back to Egypt 🇪🇬 and deal with it there that way he wouldn’t feel ashamed and commit this outrageous crime
WTF? It is his bosses fault he murdered these people?
According to the documentary, superiors in N.Y. told him prior to this flight, that he would not return to the USA. I’ve a feeling that the co-pilot realized that upon return to Egypt he’d be terminated and disgraced, so he suicided out, knowing that Egyptian officials along with his families, would shamelessly reject the suicide theory. Hindsight being perfect, this likely would not have happened if the co-pilot had not been informed that they were on to his behaviors until after they returned to Egypt.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans there'd be no time for tinkers
If only Gameel kept his pecker in his pants. He deserved to be sacked. What's even more surprising is that this wasn't his first offense. Egypt Air should have held him accountable from day 1.
Hindsight is always 20/20.
100 percent intentional. Why would he shut the engines down?
In all the airplane disaster shows I have watched, the NTSB has always held the manufacturers of all planes accountable for any design defects and/or flaws. Corruption is not in any way shape or form happening in the NTSB. Corruption does exist in the USA, but not within the NTSB.
I would agree that there is no corruption in the NTSB. The FAA on the other hand, is rife with corruption.
How can a professor from George Town not interpret that properly, as a native arabic speaker, we also say it when faced with a difficult choice, imagine being at a the top of a scary ride and have to decide if you want to go ahead, you hype yourself up n keep saying it, in this contest it means I’ve made my choice, the rest isn’t up to me.
Listening to the audio alone tells you everything you need to know. How an entire country rallied behind a murderous pervert is beyond me.
RIP to all that lost their lives
i don’t speak arabic, but even with what he said and his translation, that doesn’t mean it refutes he was meaning to crash the plane and it wasn’t intentional. He can still be saying it ‘positively’. Like, I put my faith in god - as in hopefully he will look kindly on me and understand or something. So I found what he said bizarre - he was trying to implicitly defend the murderer.
‘i put my faith/trust in god’ or whatever the phrase means (not an arabic speaker) could just mean in any context that he hopes god will forgive him and understand or look kindly on him. It doesn’t mean that he didn’t intent on crashing the plane or that he wasn’t trying to, so I don’t understand. Just because it has a positive meaning means nothing. It’s just like saying ‘god bless’. I could say god bless before doing something evil to try to absolve myself in the eyes or god or something (i’m not religious so i’m just conjecturing but yeah).
@@oliverwortley3822 i agree, it’ nuanced, but in the context of what was happening it doesn’t sound right. If he thought they were crashing, he’d have used other “blessings” appropriate for the situation, it’s not conclusive evidence, put together with other evidence, it makes more sense
@@ZX-mg5xs I agree with you largely, especially what you said about the professor. What he said made no sense, even without the added context of knowing arabic and the phrase he apparently translated.
like usual crazy emotional moslems
the emotions control logic.
Wow… one of the most terrifying flights ever
You know we would Usually be happy over a full episode but the backstory of the actual flight is kinda dark
Whenever I seek answers to difficult questions, I ALWAYS look to history for answers.
There was one eerily similar case that occurred 50-years ago in the ex-Soviet Union that strongly resembled this one. The case revolved around a Russian man who was the most prolific and sadistic mass murderer in Soviet history, killing a hundred boys and girls in the most grisly ways imaginable. The reason they never pursued him was because the Soviet government refused to believe that a Russian citizen could commit such heinous crimes, believing that only "sick and twisted Americans" were capable of such senseless violence. So they stonewalled the entire investigation, allowing him to kill virtually at will for years and years. Many dozens of innocent children could have easily been saved, but in their abject denial, the murders continued without interruption. That is nearly the identical circumstance here, where an entire government refused to believe that one of their own could have killed himself and others intentionally. Try explaining that concept to the hundreds of terrorists who commit suicide on a regular basis, taking out hundreds of innocent bystanders in the process. This was clearly an Egyptian coverup with absolutely no mitigating evidence to the contrary.
P.S. Btw, the name of the movie I just mentioned is "Citizen X," available everywhere. Starring Donald Sutherland (who won the Emmy for his performance) and a superb Stephen Rea("V for Vendetta"), and Max Von Sydow ("The Exorcist") this is one of the best movies I have ever seen. It is one of the most engrossing and riveting American films in years. WATCH IT.
I read that story too, the investigators were unbelievably slack & should’ve arrested him on the evidence in his bag alone! Or at least watched him.
His name was Chikatilo I think, I am sure I misspelled it. I watched a documentary about him as well. He was broken due to consistent mental and biogical trauma, never got reprimanded, continued killing and then when trialed family members of the deceased tried to kill him. Citizens stood up for the family members as well.
@ioannageor180 you got it right - Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo. The butcher of Rostov. Nastiest, most despicable, evil piece of filth to ever walk upright. The movie is amazing, but not for the faint of heart.
I would like to watch that movie
@@ioannageor180
Yes, Andrei Chikatilo. Of all the murdering monsters I've ever heard of, he rates way up there. But even worse than his crimes, the way the Soviets let him go was the biggest crime of all. It's called, "Denial."
Absolutely disgusting how this can happen. I think tensions went up when the First Officer was told that it would be his final flight to the United States Of America that he wanted some sort of revenge on the airline so he decided it would be the perfect time to take revenge on the airline when the captain left to go to the bathroom. I think also it didn't help that he never got promoted to captain which would have made the First Officer more upset which also corelates to why he wanted to take revenge on the airline and all passengers and crew on board.
The boss that reprimanded him was also on the plane. There’s no denying he was responsible.
If it hadn't happened in American airspace we'd never know the truth as the Egyptians would've hushed it up, like they have done with previous crashes.
I think it’s exactly as how they described it. Batouty wanted revenge and it was going to be his last flight, it would be Rashputi’s also! (Sorry if I got the names wrong)
There can hardly ever be a more serious and reprehensible crime; there can hardly ever be a credible excuse!
If there's a cameraman filming onboard your flight, you know you're finished.
lol
Right, you're finished but the cameraman always survives. Life can be so unfair!
End of video says,
"it will forever be a painful mystery"
I say, "painful yes, mystery no"
Of course his family won't admit his responsibility, but why won't the Egyptian government admit it? How does it benefit them?
As far as I am aware Egypt Air was, and still is, government owned. The government of Egypt would ultimately be held liable.
@@keithmartin1328 And they don't want their religion, reputation, and peoples accused of doing something so dispicable. And their cowards too.
That must've been, I can't even imagine, what those passengers went through otw down. Wow!
That's pure stupidity and sick. Love aviation but that guy was evil.
I am so sorry for the family and friends of the people onboard.
God bless their souls.
If they had waited until he got home to fire him, this wouldn’t have become such a tragedy. But we all have 100% hindsight, don’t we? So sad. In addition to my sympathies to the victims and their families and friends, I have sympathy for the families and friends of this man. I can’t imagine going through this.
I'm sure you are the only sympathetc soul
He may have known it was coming before they made it official. What you need to do is suspend with pay if there is an investigation but the culture was too much of one of blind respect for these pilots to do so. If he had been cleared he could've returned to work, no harm done.
There was a similar one with a German pilot who also suicided with a plane of passengers. He thought his failing eyesight would cost him his job and he had been treated for mental illness. The medical privacy laws in Germany foolishly blocked doctors from notifying the airline.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525
@@LastAvailableAlias I did see something on tv about that case. Think it was Air Disasters”. Very disturbing.
I posted a similar reply on one of the threads. If they had wanted to be kind to his family, they could simply have offered him early retirement on some agreed medical grounds.
When someone becomes incompetent, but has not committed a serious crime, agreed early retirement is not uncommon here in the UK. This guy certainly ticked all the boxes.
Effectively firing the guy a few hours before he was due to fly across the Atlantic, was the most ridiculous thing that I have heard in years.
Check Al-Jazeera documentary is was a mechanical failure, its not the co-pilot
Unbelievable! My heart goes out to the families 😔🙏❤️
02152 is not a Boston Zip Code
It’s winthrop.
People love saying they’re from Boston when they live in the burbs
That pilot is in the same category as Van Zanten from the KLM accident
No not quite. That was deliberate. Van Zanten was incompetence and arrogance.
"The runway is clear???!"
"Oh yes!"
Full power.
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l both were full of arrogance
@@megankeil5228 The FO was more scared of the Captain than arrogant in my opinion. He tried to stop the take-off several times.
@@megankeil5228 Or did you mean Van Zanten and the one in this video? Then I agree. I thought you mean the flight crew on the KLM
KLM & Egypt Air are in the same category...
Bro my heart broke when i heard about the person tho who switched their shift to get home Intime for his wedding. They just wanted to get home in time to declare his love to the women of his life and ended up loosing his chance at a future with her or the family they would have made 😢
The flight simulator was shown that this pilot did the same thing several times to make sure he knew how to crash this plane he was embarrassed that he was to be fired, the error was you never tell a pilot this is your last flight he should have fired him right there why wait a day he kill all these people and his friends and family are to ashamed and they should be there father is a disgrace and disgusted human he never give a thought about anyone other than himself he dishonor his whole family and country,
the brother’s analogy and argument is rediculous…this is an airliner filled with passengers following procedures and protocols, not a car driven by friends on a highway. The passengers families are fully justified in suing the airlines.
Atrocious analogy
That dude is in alot of denial, so any explanation he can come up with will be satisfying for him.
So he was an old pervert that got rejected by women and decided to take everyone with him cos he was found out and let go from his job. What a selfish POS 😒
The Germanwings pilot and that whole incident...imagine being the F/O trying to get back to flight deck.
*I really love watching this type of documentary*
Denial doesn’t change the real things in this world. Diverting attention, blaming others and grasping at straws shows weakness and real lack of character. I guess I just do not understand some of the Egyptian culture.
I want to know how the Egyptians explained the fact that he shut off the engines...no matter what happened up there ask yourself....would you really want to turn the engines off in an emergency? 🤔
All happen because co pilot exposes his birthday suit in front of some girls on the window, and harassing a hotel maid. Because of his actions, he was lectured by his bosses that flight 990 will be his last flight and he'll be retired
What a useless human.
The man was totally unstable and had no right to be sitting in the cockpit of a passenger aircraft. The airline was far too tolerant and wished to protect its own reputation. They should have got him out long before. Do you wish to be flown, along with your family, by a pilot who never made the grade to become a captain and in addition was mentally unstable ?
@@jamesgraham6122 exactly...someone who cant control their s*xuality is not mentally stable....unfortunately there r a lot of pilots acting foolishly like that believe me
He was not being retired only barred from flying to american soil as an employee.
I am disgusted by the fact that a supposed trust worthy authority would want to give false reports to cover up the facts
He took it off autopilot without justification. Unfortunately he caused the accident. God bless the victims
May Allah put the ones responsible including the ones that covered this up in the deepest of hells
I cannot even imagine what passengers felt when falling all the way from 30,000 feet or more....this sico should not have been allowed to fly the plane
These video's are so addictive and I can't stop watching, despite being terrified of flying
Addictive because you feel you learn human nature in its extreme. At the end of the day it’s necessary to understand human nature of all nature.
I watch these on my tablet WHILE flying.
it unfortunate sadness to family members who lost love ones ...but it pilot who causes the casualties..why he insisted to fly the plane
what does watching these videos in the comfort of your home all safe and sound have to do with being terrified of flying?
@@cuckoonut1208 I used to watch a lot of these air crash investigation shows I was addicted to them , but after I developed a big fear of flying due to the shows that I didn't have before I am ok now though.
Next video please ❤
Love this channel so much💯
"Death and Denial." Denial. Egypt. Get it?
Only a person dies knows the truth, whereas everyone else just speculates.
A pun. "Denial" and "The Nile".
Never leave one pilots alone
London Aviation
Love these documentaries.
Guys, Black Box Down has an episode on this crash, and they have a lot of information that this show leaves out
After German Air. Theirs always a Flight Attendant with a pilot. Condolences to the families and friends. All rip. We New Yorkers will never forget. Amen 🙏.
I feel bad for the passengers who died😔
This was absolutely intentional. Prematurely switching places with Anwar and waiting for El-Habashi to leave the cockpit to disengage the autopilot and shut the engines off was no doubt his responsibility for all those casualties. Al-Batouti has a special place in hell reserved for him.
On another video, i keep getting harassed by Egyptians for daring to tell them that the evidence is irrefutable that Al purposely crashed the plane. No mechanical failure could've caused what happened
Rass 'em back!