Far Cry 2 details vs Far Cry 5
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- čas přidán 3. 04. 2018
- How FC2 holds up 10 years later. FC5 has its own attention to details that FC2 doesn't have, this comparison doesn't mean FC5 has nothing to show.
Both games run under a different version of the Dunia engine (Ubisoft-modified CryEngine).
If you don't know which game is which, Far Cry 5 always cuts before Far Cry 2, clips fade in when it's just another example from the same game.
Recorded on PC, ultra settings.
What's missing:
- FC2: Rain, no dynamic weather in FC5 • Rain in Far Cry 2
- FC5: Fire through walls with armor piercing ammo • Far Cry 5 - How To Get...
- FC5: Large ammo boxes explode • Hey Crowbcat:
- FC2: Golden AK-47 variant, less prone to corrosion • Far Cry 2 Gold AK47
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Far Cry 5: realistic graphics
Far Cry 2: realistic
i'll take realism over graphics
@@Insane_scum me too
@@IloveSatyrs9191 everyone agrees with that
Well except fir that rpg part
I didn't see weather. damn open world with no weather diversity. Look at it in gta v and rdr2 is awesome. I want to rain at night with bright reflections in the Fc. But shit ubishit
Far cry 2: Immersive physics, detailing, and immersive game design.
Far cry 5: gpu fan go brrrrr lol
Far cry 2 gpu : wtf dude?! It's freaking hot in here would you stop playing?!
Far cry 5 gpu : yeah dude it's cool in here, keep playing.
😂😂
@@caalcb7 *L*
Answer is simple, far cry5 for coop, far cry 2 for single. BUUT! based on battlefield 4, they can make farcry 5 much much better
@@caalcb7 yeah if you use a intel uhd for fc 2
This video is proof that we’re not crazy when we say older games were made with more attention to detail
but.....the buddy system is worse in FC 5, the world is more empty........I dunno if I'd rather they spend their time on little things like this than the improved combat
@@troywright359 the buddy system wasn't very good in FC2 either so, both games could use a lot of improvement
FC2 focuses on detail more than actual fun, just beat the game today and 80% of it was just driving from point A to B then back to A
@@aidennicholson2109 Most of games have such quests
@@KrolKaz gamers care about fun, whether that be gameplay, story or characters, which Far Cry 3 had and Far Cry 2 didn't.
When I was a kid I used to think that games in the future would look much better with even greater attention to detail and more interactivity.
I'm still waiting for those games.
@@frogglen6350 sadly they seem to be the exception rather than the rule
@@frogglen6350 Wait what did Arkham Knight do so realistically?
Some of them have already arrived.
@TouchingIsJustTheFirstStep It did have a lot of things your could break with the batmobile, including walls (I’m not the OP, this is just a suggestion)
Cyberpunk! oh wait...
Far Cry 5: 40GB
Far Cry 2: 3.5GB
Damn... I never knew
The graphic takes place dude.
developers' brains : 200 ko
Because games these days ship embedded with game engine, unlike good old days when games were compiled with stuff it uses.
@@mkultrasoldier yeah but a good optimized 3d model won't take much space. High resolution images and audio files will take much space but still maybe, because I have used some modern game engines, I think games these days also ship with unwanted chunks of engine data. Remember in FC4 we get map editor, that wouldn't be possible without an engine or at least it's world editor. In some cases the executable file of the engine becomes the games executable file which hints embedding.
(Edit: I know that FC2 had map editor. For some reason a lot of people think I don't know that and are replying like "Uh you know FC2 had map editor". Yes I know dumb ass. I have been playing games since I was 4 or 5 ok. Since the beginning of 21st century. I know you are excited that I may not know and are eager to correct me but dude read my comments below)
FarCry 5 : Throw molotov, Just small fire
FarCry 2: Throw Molotov, Entire Africa Burned
*smokey the bear would like to know your location*
Isn’t Africa already burned ?
@@sanatoriumnugget6598 i always disliked small and unrealistic explosions,you throw a grenade and if u are 1 meter away ur safe
A great way to solve world hunger
@@aidanthorsen2155 what hunger lol it will get worse
The amount of detail at 2:18 of the flame shooting out from the launcher on the back and igniting the dry terrain because it’s so hot is a detail I’ve never once seen in a single game in my life. This is astounding to actually see. Thank you.
That flame out the back is called "Backblast" and I've only seen it in one other game. In Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm, I used a rocket launcher to blow up a tank and accidentally killed my own guys with the backblast and that's how I learned about backblast
@@chickencurry420 battlefield 5 has backblast, if an enemy is behind you while you shoot a rocket launcher, they will die
@@rochambeau7197 I've never played Battlefield but that sounds awesome
@@chickencurry420 backblast is a thing in some games like ARMA 3, but far cry 2 was the first one that I've seen where it actually set grass on fire. so damn cool.
@@edbo10 vanilla Arma 3 doesn't have backblast
Shooting the streetlamp reminded me of the fact that in FC2 you can actually shoot out a car's headlights in order to make it harder for enemies to spot you at night.
....You can turn off the lights just by pressing the swap grenade option, which is f by default.
@@johndexterzarate6663 Well, I guess I've been wasting ammo this whole time.
@@TheGREYPELT It's not wasting if it works
Oh, I didn't knew this tactic, thanks for the tip
Experimental. Nice. I turn of the lights but when sometime. I do it for fun
The fact that they included a back-blast effect with the rocket launcher in FC2 still blows my mind to this day. Great attention to detail.
@@mosel2580 A Carl G recoilless rifle?
Yeah, that's a rocket launcher, bud.
Only other game I can think of was ARMA that has back-blast with rocket launchers, but even so it doesn't set foliage on fire.
@@dwsimmy2599 America's Army had backblast too.
@Raphael The M1 bazooka burned all of its rocket fuel in the launch tube.
@@dwsimmy2599 rising storm vietnam got blacklast too
Me watching the Farcry 5 clip: That looks pretty good, what's' wrong with that?
Me watching the Farcry 2 clip: Ohhhhhhhhh
Lol
Same
@Hussy lmao "kids today"
@@e.e3614 wich is way superior
Respect okay i have 12 and a play real games like FarCry 3 ww call ir duty 2 3 4 qnd gears of war
I'm 15 now wow i was so dumb it's funny seeing this old comments
Anyway *dies of cringe*
Far Cry 2 was so underrated when it came out. I loved the elements like having malaria and needing to find medication for your character, the gun jamming that made firefights more intense, the fact the mini map was literally a map your character held up while driving, man it was such a classic
@@HelghastStalker well many S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fans are maso who enjoy putting themself in misery. The players are usually more experienced too.
Far Cry is a much more famous series. Meaning for many,it might even their first ever game.
@@HelghastStalker would be fine if it happen a little bit less often or u get a bit more medicine everytime u go do a mission. I played a crap out of fc2 back in the day and it still annoy me that you only get like, 2-3 pills everytime? Great game tho
I read an article a month ago or so that claimed the malaria mechanic was “racist”
Idiot probably never played the game
@@HelghastStalker It's not the same tho as radiation.
Since in stalker you can deal with radiation pretty easily here if you fail to have those pills you just die you can't pick them up from corpses or loot them from boxes.
When Ubisoft still have good UI design. Instead of clutter the screen nowadays.
One of the tiniest but most crucial moments in gaming for me was a time in Far Cry 2 where I found a wounded enemy crawling in tall grass by literally just following his trail, only to find he’d bled out in the middle of a tiny clearing. Shit felt like something off LiveLeak.
Metal af
Thats actually some movie shit
Everybody says these old games prioritized details over graphics but at the time these games were pushing graphics forward WHILE having all this nice stuff, developers have just stopped caring about that stuff it seems.
David Johnson bullshit
I agree. Just look at the games during those period. GTA 4, Crysis, AC II. WiC, CnC 3. With RA3( I was expecting a more like CnC3 graphics and detail look much like WiC but it went woooh the heck?) Compare them to their successors and you'll say wtf happened?
Reality is, if the Far Cry 5 things switched with Far Cry 2, you’d bitch about their not being enough birds in the sky or something. Always something to complain about
@@MichaelJ44 This argument is tried and almost never true. Yes criticism will always exist however if the game was better and had higher levels of detail, then it's possible this video would never exist and people would be praising it.
Stuff your fucking "too few birds in the sky, people still complain" argument it's worthless.
Michael Did you watch the video?
FC2: uses medicine
FC5: BRO POWER
Ur shot and u can't get up?
Ohh it's nothing bro just grab my hand and get up.
LOL, made my day
Don't touch my hand though. that would be unmanly. Let's just lock forearms.
Family members with school be like:
Lmfao
One thing enemies do in Far Cry 2 is run you over. Instead of pulling over just to get out and shoot you like they do in 5.
i think fc 5 enemeis also run u over...i have been dead that way around 5 times in the game
they do that in every Far Cry game wdym
I hate that engine rev sound, only thing that causes panic
Farcry 2: Wounded enemy gets up and stumbles toward cover, nearby allies come to heal him.
Farcry 5: Freeze tag
On the back of the box of Far Cry 2 it says it has "The Most Realistic Fire In Any Videogame!" And it probably still does.
I remember that's the main reason why i bought this game
was that really the selling point?
tbh, i play games because *p h y s i c s*
and nothing more than physics
@@joaquingonzalez834 On the fc2 box it said it had the most realistic fire. I said "heck, well now i gotta see it"
The box really didn't do the game any wonders
@@joaquingonzalez834 isnt *f i r e p h y s i c s* tho ?
Grimosaur thank you for bringing back this vague memory
Losing a Buddy in FC5: Ah, nevermind, I will find another one.
Losing a Buddy in FC2: BRO, DON'T DIE PLEASE.
@Tfkdkem • 10 years ago Not to me.
"You know, i could heal you..."
*Dude agonizing in the floor*
"But medkits are expensive, sorry buddy."
*Shoot him.*
I see you have my pfp
We lost a homie that day
FC5 NPCs i want dead most of the time, FC2 NPCs are the real chads and deserve all my syringes.
The dashboard GPS and physical map combo was an amazing feature that I'm surprised no other game has replicated, not even the following Far Cry games.
The only game that i know that is similar is stalker's mods.
It takes fans to make what fans want.
Man, this makes me imagine what if Far Cry 2 have active modding community.
@@ilhambahniar2892 FC2 Needs Active Moding Community. This Make It Happens Now Or Never.
....Redux mod actually removes the player marker on the map just to make the gps more useful than a diamond tracking device. And the markers on the map is remade to look like its hand drawn. Probably the best fc2 mod to date.
Because ubisoft are desparately trying to get another "Far Cry 3 effect"
Modern western developed games feel the need to shove a million things on your screen in order to tell the player what to do because they're so poorly designed.
Can someone explain to me how this game is 15 years old and the NPCs somehow act like actual human beings compared to farcry 5
Well you have to talk about CPUs they used for PS4 and XB1.
better physics wouldn´t be possible or the game would have horrible perfomance on consoles.
After all PC gamers have been saying tha consoles are holding back gaming
Its just better engines bud. People have lost rhe art of making great engines for games. I mean look at halo infinite or battlefield. There are reasons games are as brolen as they are now
The problem is that creating a powerful cpu designed for gaming, based on high end desktops would costed a lot of money for Sony and Microsoft for PS4 and XB1
The AAA gaming industry has become over-corporaticized and it's led by businessmen instead of game developers, who seek profit for their shareholders. Far Cry 2 sold 3 million copies in 3 months, Far Cry 5 sold 5 million copies in a week. From their perspective, Far Cry 5 was a massive success. From their perspective, they have absolutely zero incentive to add detail in their game.
@@chrisscott3071 the frostbite engine is super good it’s just that it’s not really easy to use unless you created it.
The people who worked on battlefield 2042 had no idea how to use it since they didn’t make it. All the old dice devs left.
It’s not really their fault since EA has a strict game engine policy.
That is why Anthem failed since BioWare spent half the dev time trynna fix an engine not designed for RPGs into an engine designed for RPGs
They removed all these things so when they will add them back in, they can say it's new revolutionary stuff lol
facts bro🖕
@Ilyas AitAkki rdr1, rdr2, more than 10 GTAs, max Payne, rockstar do make sequels, but they make it worth the wait, unlike Ubisoft
@Ilyas AitAkki tbf yeah, both companies use to love making games, now it's all about the money, ubisoft it's obvious as shit, with rockstar gta 5 online is a prime example
@@SimplyLeon you really think that any big company really loves to make games lol
@@c0smo709 yeah I do, I hate to say it but paradox put so much effort into their games the only problem with them is that they release tons of dlc but they work on a singular game for 5 years or more just pumping out content after content, that says to me they like expanding their games as well as making them, CD Project Red, sure they aren't massive but they're a big company that spend years releasing just one game, there's companies out there that still love making games, it's just a lot of them are smaller then say EA or Ubisoft but they're definitely still around
Developers think graphics are the answer to realism
Its the tiny details
Gaming community is to blame. Pretty games are easier to sell, even if it's all cardboard underneath.
When has the far cry series ever been realistic? The main goal is not to be realistic, but on a degree easy to play
@@LA45439 The first game had mutants and was unreasonably difficult.
Its part of it. Graphics are important to realism but not the only thing important
Far cry 2 is super interesting to me just because it perfectly encapsulates the difference between immersion and realism. If you watch jonathon ferguson's review of the guns in the game, they get most of it wrong, but despite that, it still feels intense. It doesnt make sense for the ak to explode like that, but while playing the game, feels a lot more tense and immersive. Honestly games in that mid 2000s era are really interesting with their attention to detail and creative uses of physics (fear, might and magic, sr2 etc.). I love that we're no longer in the brown military shooter era of games, but I do miss the emphasis that was put on the player's effect on the environment from ragdoll kicking or minor destructible environments ala gears of war 1.
judging from the amount of details on the weapons, such as pistol hammers actually moving and rocket launchers having back blast, the weapons being wrong is a stylistic choice
I'm a gun guy and I didn't touch far cry 2 for a long time because the AKM had the charging handle on the wrong side, I was missing out on something because of that and i can't agree with you more that the feel of the game more than made up for it.
Have u ever check out people whom died because of jammed ak? Sure it is cheap and has strong firepower but It's not so safe weapon.
@@miles3369 Funny how weapons are modelled incorrectly but still feel more like actual weapons compared to other games due to them actually being able to malfunction.
so basically it's unrealistic but immersive?
Far cry 2's NPCs really feel like people, but the way they react to an enemy they can't see is what I actually like about it.
For example if you use a mortar on an area (and actually manage to hit it) they go into cover and stay there for a certain amount of time.
Same goes with sniper rifles too if you hit one of their friends. Dunno why but that really blew me away when I first played it.
Note: Farcry 2 is over 10 years old
11 now :D
but still is better
Crosby The Wolf fc5 kinda sucks ass, they all progressively got worse.
evil_squid true except 4 that memorable as fuck
I still play it
I have 96% of game btw
There seems to be a disturbing trend immerging in the game industry where older releases, although not as graphically impressive, have a much higher attention to detail and much more of a focus on how the player interacts with the world.
Edit: I feel like maybe, this is incorrect. There are plenty of big budget games that get years of development time, and still don’t have the sort of ‘extra’ details that extend beyond normal gameplay that you sometimes saw a decade ago. I think the comments below about poor management being the case are probably right.
Maybe because of longer development cycles. Wouldn’t surprise me if, in the four or five years it took to make a game back then, individual devs had more free time to work on nifty touches in spare time, especially unplanned ones. Shorter development time means less time to add features on the fly.
impressive for today standards, this game when it came out y remember it destroyed my brain with how good it looked.
I feel like it’s because how fast life is moving now these games are coming and going so fast they just don’t try to immerse us anymore cause it’s something new around the corner
Plus a lot of the focus is spent working on the phat ass graphics. Can eat into development time when you wanna put HD textures on every spot of wall.
I think it lies down to the game engine. All new Ubisoft titles use game engines where there's a noticeable lack of physics, weight and interaction. Alot of things like ragdoll are barely in these games anymore, in favour of locking bodies to the ground etc. I hope we see a return to detail and better game engines with these new consoles.
Far Cry 2 is nothing short of a masterpiece. It was a big F-U to the "user-friendly" FPSs that were only just starting to be released in 2008. I can't recall many games that felt this cinematic when playing them. It wasn't just a game...it was an experience.
And not to mention what it felt like to lose one of your buddies on the battlefield. They come in like a guardian angel to drag you out of trouble, Bullets flying by as you fade in and out of consciousness. You felt like they were putting their neck on the line to stabilize your wounds.which was why it hurt so much when they died.
Youre in a gunfight same as any and call for backup from your favorite buddy, you mess up the outpost but then they fall to the ground. You rush over to help them but they're beyond messed up. Your medicine isn't working, and you realize they're not going to make it as they overdose on your morphine instead of returning to their feet. That shit was dramatic as hell, and i don't know how ubisoft went from that, to you flopping over while waiting for your AI friend to get unstuck and help you.
So true
Youre god damn right my Man
I think the problem is that modern far cry games are bloated, you could easily burn through your companions clearing the map in Far Cry 5 if it was done like this before the story has a chance to wrap up
When i played far cry 2 i though: "man, imagine games in 10 years"... 12 years later: THIS!!!
Yes, I must say that I am also disappointed by the evolution of the video game industry. Like many things, it was better before...
The modern AAA standard.
Man I understand, I didn't played FC2 I heard my friends talking about and I was like "Ok man it's a video game why are u so excited?" today I know why, and when I see the videos of this game now and the lack of some details I'm asking myself "what did we miss?"
Same with Crysis and 99% of AAA games that came in the 13 years afterwards :(
Exactly the same thought
Something I absolutely love is how the enemy NPCs interact with each other in FC2. They're always communicating to each other, covering each other, playing dead, healing each other, and even flanking the player. The NPCs in FC2 also wear very camouflaging clothes, even as a guy with 20/20 vision trying to find these fuckers is so difficult because they blend in with their environment.
Yeah I love that aspect of it but it seems like once they find you they can see you through any foliage.
kujo jotaro
@@the_distinguished fuck those reddit comments bug me
Somewhat like MGS V?
then you have far cry5 and they burn down an entire forest trying to kill the player
how did they fuck this up
I consider weapon breaking and jamming to be one of the innovative features for an action game, many players must have been pleasantly surprised when their weapons broke.
…followed by the immediate realisation that they no longer have a functioning weapon with about 5 guys shooting lead there way.
@@Tmaster2006YT which is why you should go to the weapons store and pick up not broken weapons after a while.
People have issues with jamming.
Because reacting to a jammed gun with unjamming/pulling out another gun is hard.
@@Neo2266.
And?
I like the mechanic.
@@a.k8185 i like the mechanic but the delay before pulling out another gun when you jam is slightly annoying
I love how you already know which one is better just by looking at the intro.
How the fuck is Hope County so poor when all the sheet metal is made of vibranium
jethical b15 Edgy
The Vabranium industry was moved to China.
That's exactly why. They blew all their cash on their fences and walls.
Matthew Anthony I think he knows
Matthew Anthony The “we wuz kangs and shiet” meme is not from a movie, tf????
It’s like evolution, but backwards
Devolution?
Povidis 5374 II Pewdiepie reference I think
ZELYNER no it’s not, there were a lot of problems with 2 which they had to rework and simplify to fix. We would never have a huge open world map like 5 with the physics of 2 without needing a multi thousand dollar pc and a fuck ton of free space and ram to run it. Someday that might be standard but it’s economically not viable right now for either consumer nor producer.
@@mikeydudek2885 You know that map sizes between 2 and 5 are about the same, right? And apart from a few textures, 5 doesn't even look better. In the meantime, computing power increased tenfold between 2008 and 2018. There simply can be no excuses.
Actually, FarCry Evolution was pretty ass-backwards itself...
The Dunia Engine was so goated along with the map creations you could make. It sort of doesn't surprise me that triple A gaming companies don't give any attention to the little details like they used to and focus on making the quickest "finished" product only for it to end up half baked.
We really were spoiled back then and i'm glad many of us got a chance to experience it all.
Its insane how this video pushed me to buy FC2 and enjoy it in its entirety, despite the game having its flaws and annoyances (malaria, almost instant respawning enemies, weapon degradation being still janky af despite getting reliability upgrades, etc). I even finished it recently and I must say, I don't regret it, the attention to detail and overall feel of the game is still amazing to this day, I enjoyed it greatly.
I moved to playing FC3 and Im already scared of how despite being a good game, it doesn't have the details of FC2.
....Try replaying fc2 with Redux mod. It fixed some issues like outpost respawn time takes half in-game day. And some infighting actually happens when an enemy faction patrol gets in an outpost(actually made some of my sneak mission bit easier). One of the best thing probably was the addition of weapon inspection button.
@@johndexterzarate6663 Redux Mod is a must! Gameplay gets better realism, the map your holding is actually a real map with no magic arrows, gotta use the gps for that.
I replayed the game several times in hardest difficulty with different playstyles and its fricken awesome and unique! Definitely, if you want fun go with sniper and mac/uzi and shoot the outpost fucks in the stomach to watch their allies fail at saving them, then switch position and ambush the sneaks who are trying to flank your old position :P
The flaws feels like more of a "you" problem the games if i'm being honest
good for you i hope more get to enjoy fc2 its a great experience, i feel its more than just a game
What's the point of advancing graphics to the point where everything looks real, but things don't *behave* like a real objects
That's what happens when you put 70% of your funding into art and then forget you have a tech department to fund also.
Vito C ikr, It's almost like they're pandering to the masses without taking into consideration the real target audience is right in front of them: Their real, long-time and long-term fans. I played Far Cry 3 and wanted more, so I got Far Cry 4. I thought it was fun and a step up, but wamted more of that man/tiger gameplay, so I got Far Cry: Primal. Loved it. I wanted to see where it all (mostly, Far Cry 1 is terrible) began, so I got Far Cry 2. Definitely a different take, but I enjoyed it all the same. The real fans aren't the ones who buy your game blindly at face value, only knowing the most basic information and making the purchase without taking into consideration all the little details. It's all because the little details and the hidden animations and the tiny, pointless things are what make the games seem more real than they really are. It's what makes the difference between another sequel to a game franchise and a real masterpiece. Same with Assassin's Creed III, IV and Syndicate. Same Combat. Now Assassin's Creed: Origins. That is a masterpiece. It really feels like time was put into it with its fidelity, sense of realism and immersion, the finer things that really do matter actually pop when you look for them and enhance your gaming experience just that much more when you find them. They're what seperate the repetitious games from the true outlying masterpieces.
Vito C
I think that's why so many games fail to immerse me these days; good graphics mean nothing if the world doesn't react realistically to the player
Vito C
This is the reason why Half-Life 2 won so much critical acclaim, it had great graphics, visuals, attention to detail, and an amazing physics engine which was utilized with the gravity gun.
Hey, that's pretty good Just like in life, it's the little things in life that count, not just the overall picture.
Every Far Cry since 3: You're the ultimate badass killer dude who can do it all.
Far Cry 2: You're some boi with malaria and a gun.
@Johnny Ortega Because Ajay was a US military, do you even know what you're talking about.
@Johnny Ortega yea, I don't care about those“bullshit terrorist life lessons”, all I want to do is kill Joseph. That's it. I really don't understand WTF is UBI trying to tell us in far cry5. I guess “when the terrorist come, don't defend yourself, because the terrorist are right”???? Like WTF??? Really???
Johnny Ortega in far cry 3 the story is kinda disconnected from the gameplay after you get a gun you lose all feeling of the character not knowing what he’s doing. He’s an expert with any weapon he grabs and has no problem killing outside of cutscenes. So story wise Jason did transition from scared tourist to killing machine, but gameplay wise he transitioned from killing machine to ultra mega killing machine
Far cry 2 was so hard for 10 years old me, it seemed like i'd die if i got hit by two bullets
@Johnny Ortega i found it hard to believe Ajay and Pagan would be good friends after the alternate ending. I would have expected for Ajay to GTFO as soon he left the ashes but after rewatching the ending im sure they had a very fun time shooting some guns
As someone pointed out in a comparison video on RDR2 and FC6. This is the difference when you build a game around physics or build a game and add physics. FC6 is a substantial upgrade over FC5 in that regard but you can really tell that physics where added in. Play 5 minutes of RDR2 and you instantly FEEL the physics of the game. Everything has inertia and a weight to it.
what, fc6 is the exact same.
what physics are you talking about?
@@dazerrazer3018 you can keep sliding down depeding on how big the slope is which is very fun, instead of always being stopped after a short time
@@doyouwannarollwithme what
FC6 is def not a substantial upgrade over FC5 in physics. The more we give credence to weak entries in franchises the more we deincentivize real attention and ingenuity.
@@dazerrazer3018 Are you illiterate? If you run and then press crouch i.e slide, on a slope, you'll keep sliding down until the ground is flat, that's not present in FC5 which has fixed slide distance
The way leaves get blown off trees during explosions is soooooo amazing to look at in FC2.
Farcry 2 feels miles ahead of 5 in terms of gameplay and immersion .
The guy getting hit in the leg, grabbing his pistol, struggling to get to cover, then lying against the rock out of sight with his pistol ready...
That's fucking detail man, that's way more important than graphics
No. Gameplay is king, always. As well as the user experience
@@yourmom-fx4sw true
@@yourmom-fx4sw Well, he did'nt say details are THE most important thing, he just said they are more important than graphics. And don't you think that this kind of advanced NPC behaviour is part of the gameplay and user experniece afterall?
far cry 5: a guy comes to you and taps his back, oh yeah, im all right now. theres no bullet wound or anything.
@@yourmom-fx4sw details like those help the gameplay
Another detail for me was the car repair, you actually opened the hood and tighten a random bolt but it's still better than "lol just weld the mirror, that'll fix the engine"
Tighten a bolt in the radiator, which is logical because the engine will overheat due to gunfire.
0/10 what if the spark plug is damaged how will a bolt fix that
@@tracey9073 more like a 3/10, welding your tires is a 0/10
@@TheCybertron86 😂
TheCybertron86 but the blowtorch is usable as a weapon that just sets people on fire at no cost of ammo
The start with the title screen. Far cry 5 sits in dark background where far cry 2 bursts out in flames saying I'm hotter.
Playing this game on insane difficulty is an experience like no other because you can only save at safe houses, you really feel like you are making sacrifices and thinking strategically about surviving and not wasting your syringes
The fact that you can do that level of detail in a game with very little computer resources should give no excuses to AAA developers with hundreds of employees. They just don't care plain and simple.
This proves that its more about creativity and dedication than graphics.
Well far cry 2 is an AAA game with hundreds of employees as well
There's just too much focus on graphics and style over substance because pretty colors and lighting is what sells.
@@musslos699 yes but what's important is that ubisoft has a shit ton of resources now
@@musslos699 Yeah but this was 2008. Hardwares weren't really as advanced and yet the game is here looking all fancy
@@musslos699 I mean fuck, Hollow Knight (One of the best games of 2017) was made by 3 guys sooooo Resources ain’t an excuse there’s also Fnaf which was by 1 guy sooooo yeah
Far cry 2 definitely needs a remastered edition where only the graphics are new
Ubisoft F-ed up the Assassin's Creed 3 remaster, which means that they shouldn't even try to touch Far Cry 2...
@@genzi2812 that was rare and they brilliantly managed to fuck up *against the odds* . Usually , remasters don't end up this tortured. I am sure even a sufficiently decent effort at revamping the graphics by a B-studio would be enough to breathe new life into FC2's game world.
Xeroff_Inclusion rare! Lol every Ubisoft remaster is a joke just the old game ported in higher res look at every remaster they’ve made is a fuck up.
Nope, they should make FC6 with a NEW game engine so they can develop innovative game mechanics and put attention on the details as they did with FC2, and some crazy physics, or realistic ones. :)
Bugsitogamer that’s completely unlikely. Even game developers that make quality games wouldn’t be dumb enough to waste the time and money that goes into creating a whole new engine from scratch. That’s not the problem. The problem is Ubisoft Montréal (or whatever team of developers made FC5) focused on the presentation of the game, rather than the long time quality that follows about 3 hours into the game.
The sound effects in 2 are actually amazing for the time. Especially those rocket launchers
Even things like the hoverboat engines sound like they sampled straight from the source.
I still get a reaction when I hear that telltale sound of an engine revving when they try drive into you. That instant feeling of panic is unforgettable
9:56. For a second there I thought that the explosion had created a tiny man.
lmao true
How is a physics engine and detail in a game that came out 11 years ago better than a game from literally the same franchise that only came out last year
they keep firing all their developers, that's why.
Wellcome to capitalism buddy. You live to get the máximum profit.
@@lautamn9096 no it's just greedy companies that are the problem. Not capitalism.
@@retsaMoN sure? EA Sports does the same. There are a lot of companies.
@@lautamn9096 they just fire developers because developers cost too much.
GTA 4 was also a victim of "I was way ahead of my time but people ignored me" trend.
yes....gta 4 is 100 times better than gta 5
i feel the issue with GTA 4 was it got a tad too realistic without keeping some of the fun silly stuff the GTA franchise was known for plus the map it was set in, was fairly week and nothing but city.
@@lalnablehector1285 GTA 5 is more realistic you die very easily in that game so I'll probably take GTA 4 at least I could jump from higher places without getting wasted every time and I don't know Niko is very relatable to me right down to the look's
@@lalnablehector1285 The City was actually alive though. GTA V is more bland to me, sure it looks good. but it doesnt feel good.
@@MrBICKUS9 I feel the opposite, every single time Rockstar does a city only map like GTA 3, liberty city stories and 4, they just felt so dead and characterless like oh great a city what a fuuuun place to be.
This, for me is the reason why Far Cry 2 is the best Far Cry. It's simple, yet very well made. It's just you and your guns in a hostile environment trying to accomplish a mission.
I just wish it could get a remake. Imagine far cry 2 with far cry 6 graphics and style, slightly bigger map, dangerous animals and etc. it would be perfect.
It also has objectively the best interpretation of stealth out of the series
@@lookinass2332With the way developers have been screwing up remasters and remakes, I don't think Ubisoft would honor the legacy of the game.
They still own the Far Cry property
yeah but it looks brown, no fast travel and malaria therefore it makes it the worst fc game for anyone born post 2000
I think my favorite detail in 2 was weapon conditions. It felt like you were using hyper-recycled guns that hadnt seen proper care in years, and when your weapon jammed it was a turning point in a gunfight, going from about to spray 3 guys around a corner to sprinting for cover. I wish the modern Far Cry games leaned into gun maintenance as much as pokemon leaned into pet simulation.
At this point I wish they leaned into the survival into a hostile unknown place, but looks like every game the guns are better and you get them faster
It's almost scary how well detailed Far Cry 2 was. GTA IV and Far Cry 2 both being 2008 games had attention to details way ahead of their time
I think game companies focus on details less in general now too. It’s sad
@@Lubedupsquid everyone's fixated on graphics
@@sharjeelahmed7913 yeah exactly
Man, 2008 was a great Year for games, we get GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Dead Space 1, etc....
@@mateoreyes6921 Devil May Cry 4
made with love vs made for money
tiago souza
True af 😎
Far Cry 2 was such a bad game
Gaming in general is going down deeper and deeper into pit
tiago souza made for money vs made for money
remember when I played fc2 was wondering, if this is africa where are all the lions buffalos zebra's and shit?
The attention to detail in older games is always incredible, but at the same time, I feel there's a harsh reality surrounding it. Back in those days, having immersive, highly detailed, interactive environments and such made your game stand out from all the others, especially in the middle of the Xbox, PS2, GameCube era, and the early to mid-Xbox 360 and PS3 era. Game devs and companies pushed themselves to showcase that their game engines were capable of handling all the amazing physics as well as how intricate and clever of an Ai they can design to accompany it so that we, the consumers, would buy it and play to see for ourselves.
Nowadays it's all about dumb 4K resolution this, ray-tracing that, microtransaction all those, live-service everything rather than actual immersion and attention to detail. I'll take 480p with the power to destroy a whole city in an amazing, particle effect, debris filled mushroom cloud that makes my system bow down to its knees over some bullshit fancy lighting effects that make next to no fucking difference unless I use a microscope and stand still in one specific spot of the entire game all day, every day.
Agree
@Atheil Red why would he be?
Yup, and on top of that the stuff they do put in tends to be shallow, only scratching the surface of what a mechanic could do
Concordo
Teardown has very cool destruction mechanics, although that's the only thing the game is.
That’s quite a *far cry* from what it used to be.
Gamers: We want realistic graphics with realistic physics.
Ubisoft: Choose one.
They made both, but in separate games...
Graphics from ubisoft. Nah. I have not seen weather from Cry far 4 onwards. Hope the next part will be there. I think open world weather is a must-have standard, but not for Ubisuck.
@@gun8586 *cry far 4*
Can see you point. Wonder if ps5 will do both?
@@MegaRayan2011 Fc4 has no weather system, not wet when entering water, no real-time shadow movement, no dynamic shadows, no reflections and mirrors, no shaders or parallax mapping, no can drop objects like blood, cartridges, no grass shadows, road surfaces and textures lacking in detail. (you can see roads and ground in Gta v or Rdr2 it's extremely detailed). Ubisoft has eye-catching graphics because of a variety of colors, but to say it's good in graphics, not, because it supports very little graphics technology.
NPC: *Gets wounded in FC2*
Other NPC: "You okay? Here, let me carry you to safety."
NPC: *Gets wounded in FC5*
Other NPC: *slap* "you're fine now"
*healing slap*
Slap of Joseph Seed
Imagine have a Random dialogue A.I that interacts with the player and it self like make a new story everytime you like a new Random generated plot quests Npc voicelines and even a Seamless infinite world generation with infinite potential just Far cry 2 and autoherworlds with a bit of world experimentation
They actually use syringe, but how many?
It's Morphin
I'm so glad you make these videos. It truly validates the nostalgia of the good old times. Seeing all the attention to destruction/physics in this video reminds me of Red Faction. Man, gaming truly has become an industry rather than a passion and hobby. Im so thankful for all the indie devs and few corpo devs that still put out good stuff
Ashame that we live in the day and age where we have the most technology we've ever had to make these insanely detailed video games, yet nobody around to actually use it to its full potential like we use to
okay but that technology is generally used to make enormous worlds with tons of content, not to make desk fans spin when you shoot them (which wouldn't happen)
Actual video title: Ubisoft v/s Ubi$oft.
Ubi Soft vs Ubisoft vs Ubi$oft
(3 different companies, basically - I grew up with the first. Like when EA was Electronic Arts.)
Ubisoft vs Ubi$old
@@MasterImpactSkill xd
@@michaelmonstar4276
EA Games. Challenge everything *shweeeooop*
Do you mean, Ubisoft vs Ubi$hit
legends say that the rocket is still moving away from Earth
Don't be silly, it hit the firmament
@@raw711984 Lol
Take notes, Korea
I had no idea that the RPG in FC2 actually fell back down if you shot it straight up, that's insane!
@@raw711984 lmao.
My favourite detail HAS to be throwing a grenade beside a tree and some bushes nearby ; you can really feel the wind just violently gush by all the while getting thousands of leaves in your face that shit NEVER gets old , I absolutely loved doing that in the game and ofc without a doubt Far Cry 2 is my favourite Far Cry
After seeing that the fan wings moving when you shot them, i refuse to believe that these two games made by one developer.
It’s the simple things that make far cry 2 a classic. The fact that NPCs literally strategize with each other how they can save a wounded soldier while still shooting at the player is so immersive.
Plus it goes both ways. what it felt like to lose one of your buddies on the battlefield was emotional, even if you barely knew them. They come in like a guardian angel to drag you out of trouble, Bullets flying by as you fade in and out of consciousness. You felt like they were putting their neck on the line to stabilize your wounds.which was why it hurt so much when they died.
Youre in a gunfight same as any and call for backup from your favorite buddy, you mess up the outpost but then they fall to the ground. You rush over to help them but they're beyond messed up. Your medicine isn't working, and you realize they're not going to make it as they overdose on your morphine instead of returning to their feet. That shit was dramatic as hell, and i don't know how ubisoft went from that, to you flopping over while waiting for your AI friend to get unstuck and help you.
@@jackhazardous4008 exactly, even with not much character building in farcry 2, when a buddy is down and you can't save him and he either OD's or you have to put him down, it brings a moral dilemma into play and you don't know what to do
They also show fear and apprehension towards you when they are only fewer after you pick off their mates. This is especially true after you move out of their line of sight and stay undetected after a while. Additionally, they also beg or try a last-ditch effort to kill you with a pistol when you down them.
@@a7HKdAbmET Didn't know about half of that and I have been playing the game for at least 100-150 hours. One reason why FC2 is so good is that it's subtle and also that some things almost never happen. Like for example that a startled animal will run away and alert the AI to your presence.
Im planning on doing something like this for my game, so like the ai will have a push state where they go directly to the player, if they killed a nearby ai will push and use them as a body shield
by the way, its a 10 year difference.
that's 50 in any other industry
So... Content/realism > Quality/incompleteness
@@geegeenumber4672 I don't understand your comment
@@donpepe8440 Far cry 2 gave more attention to detail in the interactions for more immersion. Far cry 5 sacrifices interactive detail and immersion for color and simplicity. Very bland, and boring, simplicity imo
@@geegeenumber4672 so you're saying 2 is better than 5 or my dumbass brain can't process what you're saying?
I loved the physics and creating fires in FC 2. Just shooting a random gas container and see it shoot off in random patterns before exploding, was a joy. FC 3 improved in a lot of ways, but they never got that fire right again.
"The only way forward is to go back to the way things once were."
-Joseph Seed
Far Cry Development team:
Far cry 2 : 30 Animators / 30 Level designers
Far cry 5: 30 level designers
More like 30 animators doing level design lol
Isnt the far cry 5 map taken from far cry caveman?
Most of these were related to gameplay tho, that is programmers
SteelBallsOfCopper yeah the base outline is, but it’s different a LOT. Far cry primal had like a snowy mountain area, a Rocky Mountain Area, a summer hot area and the map is different a lot.
And Ubisoft commercial or marketing policy is Farcry 2 $ 20,000 and Farcry 5 $ 1,500,000, it's my opinion of a French player, so... ^^
FarCry 5: "lets send my dog companion to kill an entire outpost so I can get the undetected achievement" - Next Gen
Far cry new Dawn: Horatio
U dog can even revive u lol
Far Cry 2: Let's kill an enemy in a stronghold with a sniper rifle from a distance so that the rest of them run for cover, and I can sneak in, complete my objective, and get out before they know where I am.
@@christopherregan1654 is.. Is that a compliment? I'm confuse.
@@wutdio4353 Of course it's a compliment. It highlights the fact that Far Cry 2 is a whole lot more realistic and plausible compared to Far Cry 5.
Ubisoft's answer to bad game reviews is "But the lighting is procedural and dynamic!"
I’m literally flabbergasted learning about how much detail was put into these decade old games, details i thought would be the norm by now but that i have not seen in forever…
Far Cry 2 : Ambitious about their game
Far Cry 5 : I just want money
Ubisoft: "Hello, I like money!"
IGN: "What inspired you to cut out some of the more detailed features of your games in place of graphics?"
Ubisoft: "Money!"
@@dominicbofficial no idea why you are shitting on UBI when they are the lead company on multiplayer games rn Wit For Honor crushing it Siege having been placed in the top 5 multiplayer games of the year 3 years in a row
Remember when AC1 was being promoted? Look at how far that franchise has fallen.
@@zeis2127 right because call of duty and battlefield don't exist right?
@@zeis2127 ubisoft is being shit on because the quality of far cry 5 compared to far cry 2 is rather appalling in these people's eyes. they do not care that ubisoft is doing well in other departments. they want a better game.
2008: Games as entertainment
2019: Games as business
games as a service 👀
You do know that back then games were still a business right?
@@sneaky5141 games should be a service like the games by CDPR. Not like those half finished muddy games which is now done as a business
@@bigsmoke8816 yeah it was a Business through entertainment.
But now it's just business except for few studios...
@@aswin5792 well a lot of people are still entertaind by modern games, so it is still a busines through entertainment
These are kind of terrifying - like looking into the past of a fallen civilization and wondering how the hell they let this happen.
WOW! I love the destructible trees and bushes in FC2! Having that added level of destructibility adds a lot to the immersion. I hope they'll incorporate that to FC6.
Ofc they won't
They didn't
@@EggBlunt (ノへ￣、) fc6 was kinda a let down
Farcry 6 was a copy paste of 5, like new dawn was.
@@a.k8185 ye it's sad
When games were made with love
fr same happened to mafia
I disagree. Having a tree burn to the ground is cool, but totally unnecessary for the actual gameplay. You know what isn't cool? Having your gun jam in the middle of a fight. Video games don't have to mimic real life completely, none do. No one wants to play a game where you run out of sprint, or have to manually reload magazines etc. It's a great comparison nonetheless.
Red dead redemption 2:pathetic
@@williamrhyne2639 so arma and dayz have 0 players.
@@errvega2705 No one wants to play either compared to modern shooters.
So basically FC5 looks newer, and FC2 looks better.
Also, God bless FC2's animators.
Distractic I think it more to do with the attention to detail than animation but alright
fc5 looks better, fc2 is better**
just add a bit of gamma and saturation to fc2
Best graphics: far cry 5
Best everything else: far cry 2
1000th like
I remember how proud they were of Farcry 2's fire back when it released, and certainly for good reason.
I remember my brother telling me about Far Cry 2 when it came out, it was gonna have so realistic graphics with cool features like a fire that will spread and the environment reacting to explosions and so on. I thought it was so cool to introduce all these new things to the game. Now I see a trailer of the new far cry and I go 'Oh.. a new main character in some new area, new weapons and stuff but mostly just reskins from Far Cry 5 that were reskins from Far Cry 3. Oh and a movie actor ok'.
I can't believe how realistic the wounded animations are in FC2
Ikr...better mechanics than gta 5
@@bsfproductions8801 GTA 5 is like:
Oh I got shot, now I fall, GTA 5 is not an example of wound animations.
@@bsfproductions8801 gta v good physics,details,wheather system ,blood and wound than far cry 5
@@gun8586 Physics is debatable, while yes the vehicles have better physics, GTA 5's world is static, whereas in Far Cry 2 you can destroy buildings, and the AI is far more competent, and the Guns are better.
Yeah but gta is just fun, not realistic.
*jumps off cliff and dislocates several joints*
*puts on band-aid*
As opposed to snapping it back into place like a badass
OkBk crashes car
removes bullet from arm
Gets gunshot in leg
Pulls tooth out
Still better than bandaging aggressively the same arm over and over
*edit: MENACINGLY
13:28 the guy from FC2 can heal himself like Wolverine but he can't fight off a little cold?
The Farcry devs vs. Crysis devs conflict, gave us this beauty back then.
It seems like back in the day, even if the graphics didn't look as real as possible, the objective was to make it *feel* as realistic as possible.
Now the only objective is to make things look realistic but not feel like they are
"back in the day" was 10 years ago
idk what to think now
back in the day, these were the best graphics. And it was awesome.
yeah, in FarCry2 the ingame world feels "real" and in FarCry5 it feels much more like fake decorations.
Gerolf van Oudshoorn yeah for me too
FarCry 5 looks good, but FarCry 2 FEELS good.
Farcry 2 looks a little bit better to me
There isn't a better way to describe both games in 1 sentence.
It makes you feel like Spiderman
@@apoletestry3766 I agree
@Indigo Rebel think about this, a 2008 vs 2018 game. do you think thats fair to say thats 2 gameplay is shit? and 5 is better? lmao you need some help
edit: its like saying "man doom 1 gameplay and graphic is much worss than doom eternal"
I really love how a game that is very old and it's only 2gb is fucking up a game that's extremely modern and nearly 50gb
(Nice evolving backwards ubisoft!!)
First of all, FC2 isn't "very old" - it's two generations ago. Second, this is comparing pretty much the only good parts of 2 to the absolute worst examples of 5.
The enemy AI, the animations, the gunplay, the map system, the environment, the companions, the vehicles, and the weapon details were the good parts about Far Cry 2?
Sounds like a really good game to me.
Honestly I didn't hate the deterioration mechanic, it was okay it forced you to prepare before taking a long mission and the game had plenty golden ak with longer usability. What I hated the most in the game was how enemy respawned way to quickly making going back to complete the mission a nightmare, since every encounter was a deadly one in the game.
Honestly after FC4, I'm done with the franchise. I don't need every game to have cringe characters, customizations, skill trees etc.
Weapon degradation and malaria: the only two things die-hard FC2 fans think are bad about it
Weapon degradation and malaria: the only two things I don't think are bad about it
This should almost be called “top reasons not to be excited for far cry 6
Nah, I thoroughly enjoyed Far Cry 5 and I am really excited for Far Cry 6.
Top reasons why you should not pre order games.
So far FC6 doing a pretty shit job at making me exited by showing me Saw-blade gun, handheld Minigun, (Finally) re-modelled Flamethrower, and a small dog on the wheels…
@@anooseofficer7842 far cry 5 was the absolute worst in the series lmao
@@wtfisjuice5207 Many people would disagree with you.
i remember when far cry 2 was marketed as having the most realistic fire.
It was a pretty big deal and visuals aside it's still one of the best fire systems.
I mean, Far Cry is the series that I just want to fuck around in the world with minor mechanics like the fire, sadly it's being downgraded a bit by bit.
i mean no not at all. it was changed into a shitty playground sim for braindead apes like yourself, but when farcry 2 was fresh, the series could have gone for a much more realistic route
I remember downloading the video of them showing off the fire on gametrailers
batterysurf Still holds up pretty well tbh
Since discovering crowbar about a week or so ago I have to point out that my very favorite thing about this channel is how this person is able to show so much without saying a single fucking word. If any words are spoken, it's not even from the user themself.
My friends disagreed with me when i said Far Cry 2 was the most realistic Far Cry...
...isn't Far Cry 2 the ONLY realistic far cry though? Beyond just graphical fidelity?
@@sebastianbronowicki7073 I would say every far cry adds something... but at a cost. Far Cry 2 was the foundation.
Holy shit. Far Cry 2 was brutal. I played the shit out of it but never noticed how well polished it was. It just felt good overall.
i played far cry 5 and thought it was amazing
And the MP was awesome
@@gabox17da88 Amazing compared to FC2, if you are a fan of both? I'd like to give it a shot but have had a hard time getting into any FC game after 2. They've all felt cheesy in comparison.
@@diamondbracelette far cry 3 is the goat
@@diamondbracelette Dude far cry 3 is where it's at. It's very different from far cry 2 but jesus the voice actors, specifically main protagonist Jason and villain Vaas just fucking nailed it. The way Jason goes from a kid scared shitless on a vacation to a murdering psychopath on a revenge rampage with a machete and throwing knives 15 meters into people's eyeballs is just so good. I haven't really seen a protagonist character develop in such a way other than Spec Ops: The Line, I can't really think of any other examples.
Far cry 2 good but Far cry 3 da shit
Man I loved FC2 because it actually felt like you were on survival mode and the game didn't hold your hand.
yeah but can't deny there was a very annoying respawn issue.
couldn't have said this better myself. It had the right amount of difficult you could have in a game.
Lol yea it did, I loved that game to death! Except when the checkpoint I cleared 3 minutes ago is once again full of enemies like WTF.
i actually loved the way checkpoints respawned regularly
I played fc2 through abtout three times in hardest mode and I NEVER had any problems with the respawn timer weird huh?
I've recently been noticing that developers are stopping putting details (enviromental or physics) into recent games. I think it's because according to them in the end they're just little things that no one notices and they take up memory, since we play games just for play, not to watch the grass burn all day realistically, but why remove them? The beauty of thes little things are discovering and appreciating the game world even more.
Far cry 2, crysis, GTA 4 and alone in the dark were revolutionary in 2007/2008.
First Assassin too
A jammed RPG launcher was the most terrifying thing in FC2 because half the time the rocket would just end up at your feet. And I loved the game for it.
Tf2: time to fly!
I think the most terrifying thing in Far Cry 2 for me was when one of my buddies was downed, i used morphine on him and it didn't work.
For me the scariest thing is getting run over by the enemy car, everytime i hear the car engine it always makes me panicked and look around where the hell are they coming from lol.
@@a_san_t Oh man I remember that roaring engine sound when they try to run you over. When I don't expect it that's sure to get a jump from me.
@@galloviking4766 yeah, that shit's intense lol
The healing animations from FC2 still make me recoil.
As someone with a bad stomach for blood and gore, it's a testament to it's quality after so many years that I still physically cannot watch those scenes
theyre so well done you can feel the pain when watching them. the slight hesitation or stopping for half a sec part way thru really conveys the pain.
13:16
I love far cry 5 never played 2 but those healing animations look so cool
I laughed at them. They were so awesome and so like raw. Makes me wish something would happen to me that forced me to snap my arm back into place. Looks so painful but satisfying.
Far Cry 2 wasn't perfect by any means, but it knew how to be immersive. Amazing attention to detail for an open world of the time, and it still does things that many games nowadays don't but should do. I just wish more care went into the writing and voice acting for that game.
There was a time when games tried to be immersive