RIDGID r4514 - Router table insert for table saw and fence extension.
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- čas přidán 5. 03. 2021
- Added a router table to my RIDGID r4514. Some scrap wood a $20 router table insert plate, and some shelf pins and I made a fantastic router table attachment. RIDGID's fence design is great for this application because it incorporates t-track on all sides so it's very easy to add on an auxiliary fence system with t bolt. (Or in my case bolt that I ground down into t bolts)
materials list:
router table insert - the one I bought off Amazon is no longer available but all the cheap ones look the same except for the paint jobs. (also had to re drill the mounting holes in the one I had)
here a comparable one:
Router Table Insert Plate, Uranny 700C Aluminum Router Table Insert Plate + 4 Rings Screws for Woodworking Benches www.amazon.ca/dp/B07C92KDDN/r...
pins:
www.amazon.ca/20pcs-Cabinet-W...
router:
www.homedepot.ca/product/ridg...
table saw:
www.homedepot.ca/product/ridg...
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Mind blown! I just set up my new Ridgid saw and was looking for a how to video for squaring the fence. I did not expect to find this gem. What an ingenious idea.
That's very kind of you. I'm glad I could help 😁
Sometimes you see things that make you go,..hmmm, interesting. Then there are some things that just make you feel dumb for not seeing a solution right in front of you. This is one of those, fantastic.
Just got this exact table saw and will definitely be making this attachment and returning my dads ryobi table 😊
This is genius. 💪 Thanks for the idea. Nothing more needs to be said!!!
Thanks man. Happy to help.
I recall Sears selling a table saw with a built-in router insert many years ago. This is really well done, thank you for sharing!
I appreciate that. Thank you!
Very clever and well documented with no fluff. Really appreciate the effort you put into this!
Nice!
Very cool. I just bought the Rigid portable table saw and then I saw your video. Yet, gonna do it.
Good luck brother!
Spectacular--thanks for the great 4514 add!
The exact solution I was looking for since I run the same table saw. Thanks for putting this content out there!
Thanks for watching, good luck with your build
Thanks so much for sharing! I have a pretty small workshop space and this will really come in handy
Brilliant! Thanks for this very practical and great idea. Perfect timing coming across your video as I’ve been planning on making some sort of setup for my trim router.
I appreciate this because I have most of the same tools, only I wish I had a fence with a T track in it! The simplicity of this build speaks volumes. Thanks a lot!
Great job man I love this! Just picked this saw up today and can’t wait to build a router table in it.
This is a genius idea. Thanks for sharing!
This is awesome. I must try this for my rigid!!
I've been needing/wanting a router table and this looks like the perfect solution! I don't have a trim router but this looks sturdy enough to handle my plunge router.
Great video, very creative thinking, and perfect timing. I was just about to add a router table to the left side but I like this SO much better. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Thanks. Best of luck on yours
Clean and concise installation, one of the best designs that i have seen. Great fence too!
Thanks
Such a clever use of space!! Well done!
Thanks
Wow this is a game changer! Thank you good sir.
Excellent!! I have just bought this saw and this looks like the perfect next step
Thanks, good luck with your build.
Well done. Great solution for a small shop.
Thanks
I'm a little embarrassed I didn't think of this. I'll be doing this with my saw and a homemade router lift. Good idea
you stole my idea LOL I did the same thing but I did it 10 years ago. I'm glade to see someone can think outside the box. great job
Nice job. very efficient!
your fence moves so smooth
Thanks but I guess ridgid deserves the credit. I just made sure the surfaces were perfectly even.
I like it! Great use of the extendable table. Only thought that could be problematic is dust/shavings build up. If you made the fence a box you cold easily attach a vacuum port to hook it up to a dust collector. Only feedback I'd have. The set up is great!
Hey that's a great idea, I've been thinking about something similar. I didn't bother thinking about dust collection because I have a small space and don't have any dust collection system set up. I am moving to a bigger space and hope to set something up. Your box idea with some sort of vac connect on the back should work very well. Thanks for the tip. Cheers
I’m really new to woodworking and I have this exact table saw and I plan to adapt this myself. That being said in reference to the dust, couldn’t you just make the equivalent of a cover to put on there when not in use? Instead of making a spot to lift with the finger, just raise the router to “pop” it
Pure genius looks like I have my next project
Thank you 🙏🏽
Yep. Gonna do this! Good stuff!
Jaw drop! Definitely making this!!
Thanks. Good luck with your build
Great idea. Have the same saw and router and totally going to do this. Thank you for sharing bro.
No problem!
Nicely done!
Excellent idea! i like it A LOT!
Thanks
Great idea
amazing work sir! was looking into buying this saw - I have a really small space so this is a great add on!
Thanks. Good luck with you build
Pretty slick. I like it!
I absolutely dig this video. I have the same tablesaw as a stand in for when my delta took a crap on me. I'll be copying you. Liked and subscribed
Nice video Mike. 👀👍🏻Good job
I have the same saw. Thanks for the brilliant idea
You bet!
DUDE!
I have the same table saw.
Definitely have to do this. 😎👍
Awesome design and idea.
Thank you sir!
Does anyone else always try to blow away the sawdust while watching these woodworking videos 🤣?
Lol, you're not alone
Genius, doing this tomorrow!
Awesome video, thanks
Great idea and video. Going to try this with my saw but hopefully make it easily removable, (very small shop)
Thanks, Good luck with your build. I find it very easy to insert and remove, though its more convenient and space saving to just leave it in when I fold up the saw
Awesome job. Love the wo wo lol
looks good.
Creative, simple and extremely functional. This was a timely find for myself as well ... I'm picking up the Delta variant of the Ridgid R4560 next month and I wanted to do exactly what you just did in this video. About the only difference between what you did and what I'm going to probably do is have a laminate surface on the addition. Other than that, pretty much on board with your design.
Thanks much for sharing your design and instructions, it will save me a certain amount of trial and error. Cheers and good luck with your saw and router table.
Thanks, Laminates a great idea. I wanted to do that for my build but was at the beginning of the pandemic and was too much of a hussle to go out. So I used what I had. Good luck with the build. Going to be no friction with the laminate
@@TheCandolFamily Use bee wax
This is awesome!
Thanks.
Very cool!
Thank you 🙏🏽
Brilliant !!!! i'm gonna make the same, tnx a lot !!
dude. you are a GENIUS
Thanks appreciate it
Brilliant!
Ingenious!!
Thanks
i have the same model ,i will make the same, great idea !
Thanks. Best of luck with yours.
That’s a great idea
Thank you!
Nice video. 👀👍🏻😁
Fantastic!
Thanks
I did exactly the same with my Ridgid saw table...logical idea. I don't understand why Ridgid don't make an insert which does this...
Yeah really
ok, how to put this?
I own the same table saw for quite some time and you've open a new world for my best "portable table saw" ever!!!
Even that you took it to the next level, I'll make it simplest, according to my essentials.
thank you very much!
Hey thanks for the kind words. Just working with the goods I had. Good luck with your build
Smartest idea I’ve seen on CZcams, thank you so much for sharing this, and could you plz tell something about Rigid table saw? I
This is a genius. Bumped myself on the head that's a good idea.
Really great video and explanation. Does anyone have recommendations on which t-bolts to buy for a Ridgid fence? I'm new to this t-slot stuff and have noticed how many sizes or options there are - it's a bit confusing for a newbie. I purchased the Ridgid ts3650 used and I'm loving it, just wanting to get the bolt situation figured out.
Looks good, Im going to try and see if this works with my Ryobi saw. Maybe malemine top.
If it has an extendable table it should. I wanted malemine too but with stores closed I just used what I had. Good luck.
I just found your video, and LOVE IT! I have the same saw and just ordered the plate after watching your super idea. Thanks for sharing! I am going to subscribe and look at your other videos. Could you make a video on how to make a table saw dado plate for the saw?
I was wondering how to use that extendable part on my makita table saw….well thanks to you man cant wait for 2morrow to start
Where did u get that metal plate for router?
Where can i get such clever drill guide ? :)
I did have a question about this. I don't exactly want to drill into the table saw but I was thinking...is there a way to make a dado/groove or something so this fits in between? I think I might try your method since I have the same exact table saw. Unsure if I should just screw the 3/4 plywood or mdf together or glue them though.
I have a question, this means that every time I need to use the fence I would have to remove the router fence to flip the short fence?
Thanks for the video! I have a similar saw and was wondering about locking the fence when it is on the plywood. There is a groove on the back end of table top/extension where the fence locks in. Did you cut the groove out of the plywood?
How does it lock into place when it is on the plywood section?
Thank you!
Hello there. No I didn't have to cut any grooves. Just cut the ply to the same length as the table top. It doesn't interfere with the fence. Locks down just the same as anywhere else on the table.
@@TheCandolFamily thank you!
Sweet! Recently got the same saw and have been considering doing this so I am just curious... why not extend the saw plate out all the way and make a larger birch router plate to insert?
Hey thanks for the suggestion. For larger pieces I switch the fence to the other side of the router and it gives a lot more surface on the table to work with.
I have your same router and bought the same metal plate to make my router table. Unfortunately only 2 holes on my plate match with the router holes🤔 Did you have the same problem? How did you secure your router to the plate? Thanks
What size and where did you get the bolts for the fence?this is exactly what I need. Thanks for the tutorial.
Hey glad you found it helpful. To be honest I stole the pins from an old book shelf. I did link some pins from Amazon in the description that are identical. One of my pins wasn't lined up correctly and I had to drag the hole. So I used epoxy to set them all after(while installed in the saw). If you have some it will make it much more durable. Good luck with your version
Very nice I have the same table looking forward to following your video to build mine thank you. Does your blade go out of adjustment every time you make some cuts?
Thanks, fence needed some adjustments to get it squared up, but I haven't noticed the blade alignment changing. Only problem I've had so far is part of the dust collector system broke.
@@TheCandolFamily I had a really hard time aligning the blade if I get it to 90 deg one side then the other side is not on 90 so it's really hard to get it right as far as the fence I had to do the same as you.
Mount dust colection on fence
Just bought this table saw and I think I am going to use this great idea, but one question does the table saw still fold up for storage with the rotor attachment left in?
I have not made this yet but I would think it would interfere with fold up, but simply remove and store elsewhere when moving the saw. Love this idea. I will be working on making this this weekend.
Very nice addition to this table. Too bad Ridgid removed the fence micro adjust thumbscrew from this model and it's predecessor R4513...fortunately my R4510 is still in great shape.
Awesome vid.... looking at buying the r4514 to replace my 18 year old Ryobi BT3100.... how are you liking the performance of the saw? Thanks and have a blessed day
Hello, that's for watching the vid. That's probably the best feature of the saw. Very strong motor. Hasn't failed me yet. Cheers
Hi do you have a vid about the fence upgrade to your table saw? Can you please give me the part number for it? Thanks Nice video btw
This is exactly what I want to do. Any chance you could link to the pieces you used?
Also- did you cut the plywood square or have it beveled at all so it sits in easier?
Hey thanks for watching, sure I'll update the description and include my materials.
Yes I did square it up. I figured that the 2 pieces of plywood I laminate together wouldn't be perfectly square to each other and would need to be cut if I wanted all 4 sides to be perfectly flush with the table sides and fence rail. Plus if I messed up the alignment of the router insert I could correct that when I trimmed. Instead of putting a bevel or groove on the edge to rest on the fence rails, I used metal shelf pins to line up and hold it flush with the table surface. Thought it might get in the way of the fence sliding over the insert. I did break the top edge with some sand paper just so it matched the edges of the rest of the table. Thanks for the question. Hit me up if you have more when u go make one for your saw.
@@TheCandolFamily Was wondering how thick that piece was! 2 pieces of 3/4"?
I had at least 7 videos in que to watch but watching this one I deleted the rest. Where did you get the mounting plate for the router? Did it come with one? I have pretty much the same router as you used? Thanks and great job!
Hey thanks brother. I got it off Amazon. If I search for "router table insert" it will come up. Some really nice ones if I want to spend a little more but here's a link to the one I got.
RealPlus Router Table Insert Plate, Aluminum Router Plate for Woodworking Benches Wood Tools Milling Trimming Machine with Rings a.co/d/aiF76cy
Cheers good luck
Thanks a ton!
Did you have to ajust the fence for the saw? I bought the same saw and have trouble getting the fence to line up straight.
I'd actually bought it second hand. Not sure if the first guy did or not, but I have noticed that there are 2 spring clips on the front of the fence that if not engaged properly throws the fence out of wack. I always push forward on the springs when I put the fence on Maybe that might help you. Also the fence isn't attached to anything at the front untill it's clamped, so it's best to hold the front face and only the first couple inches of the fence to slide it over.
Lots of videos out there, showing how to fine tune the fence
What do you use for editing….?
I used Kinemaster for this video
Where did you get the router insert??
I got it off Amazon but it's no longer available. All the cheap ones look the same though, except for the paint job. I have a comparable in the video description.
How thick is laminated plywood?
I laminated 2 pieces of 5/8 ply together so it was roughly an 1 1/4" thick
What bit was the one you use I know that you mentioned it was a 3/8 but which 3/8?
Hey not sure what you mean. Just a standard 3/8th drill bit.
@@TheCandolFamily I ment type of bit.
what are those pins called? what size? thanks!
I had some kicking around, but if you search for shelf pins they'll come up.
@@TheCandolFamily thanks!
I tried this many years ago and found my saw just had too much sag on that extension. This is a newer model that might not have the same problem.
What model was it? Seems really sturdy to me. My thought is if it can handle half a sheet of plywood at 30", a couple of pounds at 15 should be ok.
@@TheCandolFamily Oh I wasn't suggesting the weight was an issue. What I had going on with my R4510 was the sliding table would bow downward slightly given enough weight. This wasn't a problem for small pieces but for stiles and rails and certainly raised panels I'd get inconsistent results depending on how hard I would push to keep the the work piece flat.
My Ridgid just died the other day so when my Metabo arrives I'll look at doing this again but this time using an adjustable angled support from a cross member instead of hanging it from the rack and pinion rails. This way I can dial everything in to be on the same plane and can still adjust the fence.
@@dfs7979not sure if they use the fence system but I will definitely keep an eye on it see if it begins to sag, but so far so good. Love the metabo saws. Hitachi makes great tools. From my research it seem like one of the best of not the best jobsite saws out there. Hope u get lots of use out of your new saw.
Could you share the source for the $20 router insert? THANKS!
I put a link in the comments for a similar router plate insert. The one I bought isn't available anymore but they're almost identical
How about dust collection? This setup will blow sawdust all over while using the router.
Yes. Yes it will. Could hook your router up to your shop vac/ collector but it'll still prob make a mess
Yeah I don't have any dust collection equipment so I didn't really factor that in. In the future I might rebuild the fence deeper with a inch gap between the fences were a vac house could mount to. As it stands now...get ready to get dusty
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice czcams.com/users/postUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
That's a great idea. Thanks for the tips.
speak up
I was using my inside voice lol. Shot this with my phone camera, but looking into a proper set up for future vids.