I've stayed silent on this for years.... Eugenia Cooney Part 1
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I've gone out of my way to not watch her content. My heart just breaks for her. The only way I think I can help is by not watching her videos, not sharing, not commenting etc.
Amen
I’ve literally not heard of her until now 😅 but I also don’t use TikTok so maybe that’s why…
@@DefinitelyNotAFerretthats not why lol shes been a popular topic on youtube since like 2013
@@oliveraddison6143 Jesus Christ- no idea how I managed to avoid her until now. Then again I didn't know markiplier existed until last year and he's been here a while too
@DefinitelyNotAFerret I only found out about her a few months ago, and I'm a Digital Marketer, so 🤷🏼♀️.
Iit's the algorithm of what YOU watch and seek for the most part. I found her on TikTok on a hashtag #️⃣.
I think we need to talk about the mother holding the camera and helping her make the videos.
I agree
Exactly. If we're going to talk about how this girl has been 'let down', we should probably start there.
her mother literally took her out of treatment saying they were going to get privatized help. then obviously didnt
Just like Jeanette McCurdy's mother...
Her mom claims she’s healthy and fine too 😅😅
What worries me....is her Mother. I can't help but think that her Mother is gaining something from this. I have a 9yr old daughter. I get worried when she has a simple cold. I just can't see how her Mother is letting this happen.
I know her mother made some of her video but she lives with both her parents so why does society still insist on blaming ONLY the mother. He lives with her and apparently does nothing to stop her.
Btw she’s almost 30 now so it’s like addicts: you can want to help them as much as you can but they have to want it. Otherwise it’s not working. Unfortunately.
@@cannellecinnamon5504Her dad doesn't really live there because he works in New York. I think he comes home to visit, but that family is such a mess I wouldn't be surprised if he has an entirely separate life from them. His wife is nuts, daughter is mentally ill and sick, and son is wierd and a perv. He probably checked out a long time ago. They're worth tens of millions so he probably just sticks out the marriage. Not that it makes it any better but i think there's a lot more than meets the eye with this.
Exactly, I would move heaven and earth to get help for my chiId, idc what age they are. Her brain cannot possibly function right in her state of starvation. And even if she wanted to eat, refeeding syndrome could kiII her. It's such a tragedy waiting to happen. Idk but she may be beyond helping at this point. I do wish someone in the Houston area would call APS to investigate. Her mother is compIicit imho, idk if it's because of the money or what. Idk how YT & other pIatforms can aIIow this either, sorry but it's not ok to pay someone miIIions to unaIive themseIves on video for peopIe to see and pervs to get off on.
Her dad?
Mom's probably make some good $$$ from the views
Being online is fueling her ED. At this point I don’t believe she could be healthy and be present on the internet at the same time. She gets so much validation here why would she want to change? Not to mention how uncomfortable it is for her body to go through the changes and bowel issues. The people that raised her and the world has failed her and she’s at a point of no return, she’s almost 30 and is still so dependent on others
Not necessarily. I grew up before the Internet, and there were plenty of people I knew who had eating disorders and just refused to get help, or believed being extremely thin was healthy. I have a family member with a mental health condition that I have taken to the doctor numerous times to seek help. She is not online, but just like Eugenia, she believes she is fine. She refuses to seek longer term treatment that could help her. Eugenia’s family should help her, but ultimately, her getting help is up to her. Many people have reached out to her. I do not understand why she does not get help. Eugenia being in or offline will not change this. Deplatforming people is wrong and not the answer
@@JuliasHairJourneyshe’s flashed her privates multiple times on livestreams and she gets money from ana fetish people when she does certain things on livestream for their pleasure. She also refuses to age restrict her videos. People have caught their kids looking at Eugenia videos and young anorexic girls want to look like her. I hope she gets committed and gets forced to eat.
@@JuliasHairJourney I think you missed the point.
@@PeaceOfMake No, this is my point and my view. I think there is no good resolution to this issue. I am explaining my thoughts regarding the people who want her offline.
@@JuliasHairJourney She is being validated through online attention, which keeps her in the deep end as she has no support in real life pulling her the other way.
Society has not let her down. Many people have reported her content and CZcams has done nothing. Tiktok finally banned her today. People are mass reporting her in CZcams and nothing is done even though her content is in clear violation of the TOS. A lot of people are trying to help her. The one major person who's let her down is her mother. The CZcams coin is too great to give up. Sacrificing her daughter should be illegal.
Yes, it scares me
That possibly one day that girl is going to die soon because of her illness. She’s my age, we’ll close. I understand what it’s like to struggle with body image but I just hope one day she gets help that she needs to be mentally and physically healthy before it’s too late.
Exactly right. She's been reported over and over as a dangerous influence to younger fans and to herseIf and aII YT says is she isn't violating their TOS or guideIines.
I truIy wish someone in the Houston area where I think she Iives, would call APS because clearly she's incapable of helping herself at this point.
Her mother's just bizarre in her denial of there being a probIem and filming her Iike she's her pimp. Ughh this case frustrates me as a human, an RN and a mother.
I refuse to even give her a single view. But the video of her dancing in the lavender outfit was shown on a news clip on a Houston news station which is probably why it got so many views. All it did was draw more attention to her. 😔 I believe it was about people trying to get her deplatformed until she gets help at least.
Someone in the area needs to call APS on her, but it may already be too late.
lmao well it took Chris Hansen and an entire Netflix documentary to get Onision banned from CZcams, so there's not much of a chance that they'll do anything about her.
something is really wrong with youtube's algorithm in general. you search for something, and as soon as the results peter out you get either manosphere content, disturbing violent videos or eugenia cooney. there has to be more than just engagement driving that.
I absolutely agree, there is something absolutely vile about the CZcams algorithm and the Eugenia, the violent/gory content, and manosphere content gets pushed out to people who aren’t even trying to find that stuff, which makes it more popular. I was literally looking up “lemon peel crochet stitch” the other day and after scrolling down through maybe 10 videos that were relevant to my search, the next video suggested was of a child dying, and then some videos with bloody wounds and poorly done medical stitches.
@@gracefoster7587omg i thought this just happens with me. I search for good asmr videos and i get all these videos of diseased body parts. It makes me cringe with disgust.
I look up pics of diseased body parts to relax to.
Money is driving it
@@gracefoster7587a while ago, my younger sister and i were looking for videos on how to make dresses for our dolls out of socks, and after scrolling a bit, a playlist with the cover of a woman's private areas with scissors by it came up.. it was really graphic, and gross. something is seriously wrong with youtube's algorithm, we weren't even searching anything remotely related to that. instead of making new features like Shorts Effects and whatever, they should be focusing on things like this that have been happening for so long.
There are kids in her comment section striving to be like her she needs to be taken off of social media
platforms make money from her. they couldn't care less. you tube included. despicable.
I agree with you, I check every few years to see what’s happening with her and always surprised to see her still on CZcams. I completely reject her being able to be on CZcams
Parents are a thing
The worst thing is as an X Eugenia fan, we tried to do what we can to stop promoting her content but the platforms, none of them ever did anything to try and stop her content it's literally awful to watch but as a fan in a literal other country I have no idea what else to do
I don't know why, but I'm recommended her content with the weirdest searches. Why?
@@Sarah-psalm127Just clear your cache and you should be fine.
Lol wtf are you a fan of all she does is body checks 😭 If she were fat she would not be getting this sympathy like gtf
Sadly there's nothing anyone can do until she wants to get better.
Also alot of people don't understand algo & probably hit like to help make her feel better not knowing they are spreading her content to more people, more trolls etc.
I hope for something to open her eyes, she is worth so much more & deserves a happy life..
You should never be a fan of someone who promotes sickness
Agreed that's why I deleted her. I hope she gets the help she needs. For a while it seemed like she was and it just stopped. People in her comments always comment or try to get her to comment about her body but I read from experts you shouldn't do that with an eating disorder so I just unsubscribed and blocked her. She needs to focus on getting better not her channel.
She has to want the help.
When shane did his video on her I was so happy that she was getting better and made a comment about how pretty she looked and how fuller her face was getting. I know now that I should not have said that about someone who has a ED so I hope that she never read that comment.
she never really got better. She was just forced into Rehab by her friends (like literally forced, she had no say in it) and when she got out she went right back to her old "lifestyle"
At this point, even if she got help, her organs are really damaged. The reality is this woman won’t live much longer. There is zero muscle anymore for her body to compensate the lack of eating.
@@mialia15104she was 5150’d because she’s literally killing herself. forcing her into that shit is the only way to help her considering how much healthier she looked
I just couldn't watch someone slowly kill themselves. She also body checks constantly. As someone who goes between binge eating and starving way too often, it's so triggering. She's dying. It's sad and terrifying.
@jessmelgar219so basically, just let only the people who have positive things to say reinforce that behavior? The point of bringing up this concern on public platforms is to discourage these things from being promoted within the social media cycle. Your individual experience in your own life doesn't reflect how behaviors on social media works.
@@WolfeWrangle That is the exact opposite of what they said, stop being disingenuous. They’re directly advocating for the one thing that will actually do what you pretend to and claim you want done: Disengaging.
@@Omnihilo they said "comments even like this", when this comment is literally not even on Eugena's page or videos. When concerned people don't say anything, the only people who will comment are those who like the triggering content. She'll be surrounded only by validation, and nobody, not even on the outside, will be putting any pressure on the platform(s) to do something about it. I'm not saying give her views or yell at her in her comment section. But advocating for her deplatforming in a.way that does not directly engage with her content is much better than staying silent, smart one.
@@WolfeWrangle Either you’re a child, or reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
@@Omnihilo projection is a big fad these days I guess.
I do not engage, do not follow. Will not follow. Hoping she seeks medical attention for whatever her issue may be. I can make assumptions about her medical issues. But i will not
I have not watched EC's content directly but just reactions at others' channels. What strikes me is that she seems diminutive mentally as well, she does things and talks like an 11 year old. And her mom is if not supportive of it then at least passive. She was on vacation with her mom and did things that would be fun for a little kid.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 I mean with what nutrition does the body develop when you starve yourself for years, I firmly believe that it absolutely effects the mental development as wlel
Shes anorexic that’s her issue
“We” havent let this girl down. Her mother and CZcams and whatever other services that pay her and use her to make money have let her down.
Yeah, Jaclyn Glenn TRIED to get Eugenia help and had her 5150 a couple of years ago... Completely burning down every bridge within their friendship, unfortunately... But she had to do it because she felt her friend was 💀ing in front of her eyes... I think she was in treatment for like 4 months so she did technically stay longer than the 5150 amount of time that they would force her to stay in treatment... But then once she left the program... clearly her mother never followed up and got her the proper long term help that she needed. So yeah, it is ultimately her mother being abusive and controlling... Her mother literally screamed verbal abuse at Jaclyn over the phone when the 5150 was happening... And tried to not let it happen... So she very clearly is not seeing that her child is slowly unaliving herself.... She sees that there's nothing wrong with Eugenia and ACTIVELY tries to prevent people from getting Eugenia help.
Jaclyn Glenn talks about it in a CZcams video 4 year ago with her now husband and another mutual friend detailing how the whole thing went down. It's pretty bleak. But honestly I'm SO proud of them for trying as hard as they could to help her... Even if it meant that Eugenia no longer wanted to be friends with them.
Correct. WE have NOT let her down. We are powerless in this situation as has been evidenced multiple times. We needn't blame ourselves.
Her dad
Lets not act like Eugenia isn't aware of doing all of this for profit as well.
Ty!!
As a young girl I watched her videos. After watching like 2 of 3 of them, I started wishing I could be bone skinny and I tried to starve myself to look like Eugenia. I was in 6th grade. I already had body image issues but after her videos and seeing her trying to be everything that is the opposite of fat, I genuinely started believing that I was undesirable and disgusting. So seeing people try so hard to not be fat or overweight, not for health but for looks, that really took a toll on me. I genuinely hope she gets the help she needs because her bad tendencies aside, she’s a kind woman and she doesn’t deserve to feel so unwelcome in her own body. Wishing her the best.
CZcams had promoted her content to me for a couple days. I never clicked on it. But sure enough, it was there. I just click on the report button. Fortunately it's stopped now. I hope she gets help irl, but she absolutely needs to get deplatformed first.
Same!! I didn't click on any of them, but I also didn't report it. It's been 2 weeks or so, and I'm still getting her videos in my recommendation feed
I report and still get her videos and remove them from my history since my autoplay starts the videos, I looked up CZcams guidelines and it mentions flagging sensitive content but I don't even see that option so I can't properly choose the correct one.....
I was just searching for gluten free muffins and for some reason she pop up!!
I’ve hit “do not recommend” multiple times and she still shows up in my feed…
😢 same
Here's the thing. I'm a licensed mental health clinician and I think we need to think about this statistically. How many people with diagnosed eating disorders from around the world watch and like her content. 2M likes sounds like a lot. But, she has extensive reach and influence. What I'm saying is that I think it's mostly the people who have an eating disorder who view her content. She validates them.
And fetish consumers. They exist.
I feel kind of weird singling her out, there are so many people on social media with mental health problems, yet everyone piles on her eating disorder because of obvious physical cues.
This is a poor take. 2 million is 2 million too many and it has actively led to this woman’s demise.
@@esseaem1451 8passengers was promoting child abuse for 8 whole years, right up until mommie was arrested, welcome to social media.
I disagree. Yes, eating disordered people consume her content but so do older male fetishists and looky-loos.
I agree society has let her down, at this point, it's no better than when people of the past went to "freak shows". People go to her channel to stare and gwark at the unwell girl. It's very sad.
Boy, that's a bleak truth. 😔 At least in the old days, side shows were a way for disabled people to gain employment, independence, and some respect in a world that otherwise shunned them. Some of them became amazing business people. This is something darker, I think.
Society all by itself isn’t to blame.
Her enabling mother has a much bigger role.
Im sure the Cooney family lawyer told Eugenia not to say, "You should be thin like me"! That doesnt mean her content is not thinspo. It is!
She's an adult & if she wants to unalive herself through starvation no amount of social media posturing is going to change her mind. Even her own mother doesn't care.
We have absolutely no way to know if her mother doesn’t care, cares, or actively wants Eugenia to stay sick. Former friends of Eugenia have spoken out about her Mother’s behavior. Suggesting that Eugenia’s mother convinced Eugenia to not get rehab due to a “weak heart”. This is all speculation but people who have claimed to know Eugenia say her mom is harmful.
She's an adult that has many health and mental problems and clearly she needs help because she thinks everything is ok, I'm surprised she's still alive, I have never seen her content, but is depressing to know her condition
The algorithms have been promoting her content. Her videos keep popping in my feed even though I do not watch her content.
Same!
The only person that had let this poor girl down is her mother!!!
Eugene breaks my heart , she is coughing now because her heart is starting to fail. Even if she wanted to start eating at this point she couldn't. Her body is shutting down. It wouldn't surprise me if her skin is very itchy now because her kidney and liver are dying.
Adult protective services need to intervene.
my heart breaks every time i hear about her. i only hope one day she's able to really get the help she clearly needs.
That's a bit dramatic. Your heart breaks for a rich woman who intentionally uses shock tactics for views? How about the actually abused women of the world, the children being exploited, the abused animals.. etc.. there are much worse things going on in this world than Eugenia's narcissistic behaviour.
@@Astral_Wander3r I'm sorry for your lack of compassion with regards to someone who is suffering from an eating disorder. Luckily, I can care about many people and things at the same time.
Honestly it's like there is this person somewhere on the internet pointing a gun to their head that might go off any minute, and that's been going on for years. Worried every time I hear her name. It's such a heartbreaking situation, yes.
@@pinkcatminhtI agree. I feel bad for her too. I hope she gets help she needs one day before it’s too late.
She is dangerous to those of us who are struggling with ED I feel pulled in so many directions
This is something Abbey and I agree on. The whole thing is tragic, and the fact that the public reaction is to force her to eat and to essentially make her a prisoner even more than she is. Nobody can save her by force. This is a woman who doesn’t feel worthy of nourishing her body and the response to her is always lacking compassion and kindness.
Society didn’t let her down. People have pushed her to get help dozens of times. She is a celebrity amongst men who fetishize extreme thinness. She would rather die than give up that extreme level of male validation and attention, and she’s leading other girls towards the same horrible outcome.
worse than the positive reinforcement is the utter cruelty with which strangers have treated a dying ill woman. people will troll her, attack her, send her hate messages, etc. treating her like she’s barely a person, just an object of morbid entertainment.
I could not have said it better! It IS "morbid entertainment"! Well put.
I’m glad you’re pointing this out. It’s insane that people are feeding into these kinds of videos
Not sure if you’ve seen of herbs and altars videos on here but I think they are some of the most thoughtful and well done videos ever made about Eugenia, highly recommend
True
Agree with this.
Yep. of Herbs and Altars is the only ED content I've ever watched. Their commentary is both humane and very honest.
@@CorwinFound same, it’s the most nuanced that I’ve come across
agreed, they experienced EDs themselves, and are also alt, and i think both of those things help to be understanding and nuanced
I've never avidly watched her. But there's no real solution to her channel except for her to get deplatformed. She needs real life help. She needs to leave her family and go find treatment. I can't watch her.
The only solution is for her to make her mind up and seek medical treatment. Holding her hand hasn't worked before.
@@JohnTitor20361the likelihood of her just going to help on her own is very low. And she has made up her mind. This is what she wants, she wants to be like this. The only way she can step towards getting better is getting away from her family that enables this and to get off the internet, but in her state of mind right now, only a third party can get her out so she can get better. The only treatment she had before was when she was 5150’d by some friends, however, she went back online and back to living with her parents and relapsed.
I feel awful for her. I believe she is under the coercive control of her parents, specifically her mother. She is clearly the breadwinner, and her brother and father clearly know this is wrong because they refuse to show their faces on camera. I supported her when she came back after going into treatment, and swiftly stopped after her “interview” with Katie. Jaclyn, David and her other friends tried like hell to save her. She I hold hope that she isn’t beyond savings at this point, but my hope dwindles more and more, especially after this last video came across my feed. 😔
This is another dee dee Blanchard situation
the thing is it’s not her fault that she’s disordered. it is however the people around hers fault for failing her.
Well it's US's mental health system and APA that has failed her because the US allows people to k1ll themselves unintentionally.
In the UK and Australia, she would be found to be a harm to herself and sanctioned to seek ED mental health treatment until she is no longer a harm to herself.
However the US mental health system is Hyper focused on bodily autonomy being overly liberal that they allow thousands of people to die of unintentionally suicide.
In the US you are still considered mentally competent if you can say your name and DOB. Even if you Obviously are a harm to yourself or others. Which causes so much needless deaths in the US.
Even a dementia elderly woman who was forgetting her chemo meds was considered mentally competent in the US. 😅
It’s so disturbing every time it pops on my feed. I wish CZcams would shut down her account.
As much as I understand where you are coming from when saying that, keep in mind this is her livelihood. This is not a solution. A solution for her would be to address her health issues to her audience and say that she's getting help. Nobody should lose their livelihood because they're ill.
@@Nina-jc3bepeople make livelihoods through fat camps and other unethical things also. do you think they also shoud'nt lose their livelihood because no one should? most people actually work hard in much more ethical jobs to sustain themselves unlike promoting ED on the internet.
I didn't know her but i think it was better. Having a 18 years-old daughter, it scares me that someone could think this is normal.
I came across her some time ago and it was truly shocking and heartbreaking. I'm in my 50's, and my motherly instincts were triggered. I had no idea about her popularity or anything. I left a comment and basically told her that she really needed to get treatment because is a valuable young woman who deserves an abundant future. It's really sad that she is in the situation that she is in. I hope that there is an intervention that is effective and that she can heal her mind, body and spirit.
she is in the position of responsibility as an influencer. people telling her tat young girls are following her example and harming themselves, is her responsibility. as soon as she understood this, she is not only responsible but promoting this disorder. she now feeds on these likes, knowing they bring harm.
There is just no saving her. Her mom helps her be sick. I hadnt watched in over a year and when i looked recently, was literally shocked . Its clear neither she nor her mother have any intention of saving her.
People are waiting for her to die on camera. Cruel. I do not watch such negative body “trends”. Is that the right word?
I’m not sure if that’s a trend? Maybe more like jumping on the bandwagon or a similar phrase?
To be honest Abbey, having another person commenting on her may not be helpful. It's beyond sad to see the direction things are going with EC. But at this time it's just best to let her live what's left of her life and let things run their course. I just don't think it's wise to spread more about her (since there is not much we can do for her from afar) to fans of yours that may not even know who she is, and will likely look her up after this, whixh could be potentially triggering to new people.
I would have agreed with you not that long ago but for some unknown reasons she seems to have randomly popped in a lot of people's suggested shorts these past few days. The advice to report/hide her channel instead of engaging is a good one imo.
let her basically k!ll herself is what you're suggesting?
I agree that commenting on her situation isn’t helpful, but I do think commenting on the fact that her platform should be taken down is. We can’t be sure, but it’s likely that if she wasn’t able to make money through her thinspo content, then she would be more inclined to recover.
Thank you for addressing this ❤
This girl is agonizing for me to look at. I feel physical pain when I see her. All these views that she gets, from my point of you, are similar to when people would go to the circus for lack of a better term for the freak shows and because of that sick interest, she’s always going to have an audience. I know CZcams regulates certain language and of course inappropriate content so it’s surprising to me that they let this go on. Especially with the vileness that goes back-and-forth in the comments sections. I never understood it. It was very jarring. The first time I saw her and her in a video clip.
it's so sad. the prevailing theory is that she has an icredibly controlling mother. she has gotten treatment and improved in the past but then she came home and it all just went downhill again. my heart breaks for her.
Eugenia will be 30 years old this year & she knows exactly what she is doing.
and her mother apparently wants her to be this thin, because her views bring them money which is the most heartbreaking thing ever 😭😔
I'm not exactly sure that is what is going on here. Now, there is some reason that her mother is enabling her I just don't think it's money. Eugenie has family has been wealthy for years previous to her CZcams fame.
Her mother has an eating disorder.
What frustrates me is I will be looking up a video on rainbows or roller coasters and then I get an image of her being pushed at me by the algorithm I don't like it. Just seeing her feels exploitative
then block her. your triggers are not her problem.
@@alexandrastrauser5538 You didn't read what I said. I have never looked for her She comes up when I'm searching other things My examples were rainbows and roller coasters. I'll scroll down through my search and then see her. I have never clicked on one of the videos. I don't interact with her. Being a jerk on the internet doesn't make your life better.
@@alexandrastrauser5538It’s not a ‘trigger’. It’s basic decency and empathy. Humans see someone who looks like a Holocaust victim and we react with, you guessed it, not wanting to see extreme unhealth. We’re programmed to help each other and when someone refuses help, what more can we do? It’s a survival mechanism, not ‘being triggered’.
CZcams has a button you can quickly press that says “not interested” if you don’t want similar things to show up again. Then you don’t have to go through the hassle of blocking her :)
I love how you’re so explicit about not trying to dig pile on her or criticize her body, you make it so clear that you’re only worried for her and you’re 100% right about society letting her down. It’s also so sad, the longer you have an eating disorder untreated, the harder it becomes to break free from it. Not only has she had it for a long time but her mom and society has rewarded her for it.
Praying for her, tbh I just wish I could be her friend to just be there for her however I could.
Ive had an eating disorder for 23 years. I was bullied relentlessly for being fat. Im 39 now , met the love of my life , trying to heal and build a future but am now likely infertile after 3 years of trying. I wish i had someone like you on social media when i was younger. I thrived off the compliment, and when they stopped i thrived of the concern amd worry. I wish people were a little kinder . Teach your children that we are different snd that thats a good thing
Her mother let her down, not us. She posts so people are going to watch. Can’t do anything. You can’t say anything about obesity or anorexia without criticism. She’s grown and it’s her responsibility to want to get healthy
Anorexia is an extremely serious illness. It's not that she doesn't want to get healthy, it's that her illness is such that she doesn't know what healthy is.
@@katfoster845 i know what anorexia is. However, a bunch of faceless people aren’t failing her. She’s a grown woman and she lives with her mother. It’s not our responsibility. Her mother is the one failing her and living off of the wealth CZcams brings Eugenia.
@@outlawlady848 I was responding to your last sentence, that it's Eugenia's responsibility to get healthy. That indicates a lack of understanding of what mental illness is.
@@katfoster845 when you become an adult, you become responsible for yourself.
@@outlawlady848 that shows you fundementally do not understand what mental illness is or what severe mental illness is like.
It bothers me so much. I can be looking for Christmas ornaments and then a fan account is pushing her content there. Or anywhere else across CZcams. I really don't understand the algorithm anymore. She was going to therapy and trying to gain weight at one point from what my sister said. So I really wish EC the best in that front.
Sometimes I check up on her on hopes she's doing better... You know how that's been going.
thank you for speaking up about this. it’s extremely triggering to see her content recommended and i always report it. God be with you and her.
The thing is the behaviors people are looking for are promoted on "secret" websites of a movement many people with eating disorders get caught up in. Then herself and those people go to her public profiles and carry about hiding in plain site very heartbreaking destructive behaviors which encourage one another to "do better" or "be stronger"
I say this because when I had an eating disorder I unintentionally became caught up in that same movement.
This intense form of Ed is practically a form of self h4rm. And I hate how people are saying "ppl shoud'nt comment on other ppl's bodies because that even more triggering" as if we as an audience are supposed to just watch her starve to death. We as a society are required to help people who are struggling live better.
It is absolutely self harm. Whether it is consciously chosen or not, denying your basic needs to ‘punish yourself’ is a form of self harm.
It is not practically. It is self harm. And it’s being admired by actual teens watching her channel which is even more concerning. She’s not really a “girl” she’s a grown woman who is almost 30.
I admire your take cause at this point it’s easy to see she’s sick. But you take is super kind and on point.
I don’t give her any views, I hope she gets support and help she needs
The Internet has become a stupid place where even a health professional is scared of saying that someone is obviously anorexic or bulimic. It is pretty obvious what naturally skinny is and what eating disorder skinny is.
It's like watching a train wreck or car accident, it's awful but you can't look away and there's nothing you can do so you just stare in disbelief and curiosity. I can't even believe she's still alive at this point
“We” have not let this girl down. The multimillionaires and billionaires that own YT, TT, and IG are to blame for providing her an open and free platform. The masses will always stop to watch a train wreck. The masses are behaving as expected, but are they not the cause of the wreck nor the horrifying aftermath.
Agree.
Her family has more money than the entire comment section- poor people are 5150'd for having a bad day. I do not feel bad.
that's really sad
My blood runs cold when anyone 😢shows Eugenia - thank you for blurring her out.
We let her down?! I can’t agree with that. She has let herself down. If she can get into treatment & take accountability for her behavior she has a chance. She recently said she does not want to change & says she is fine. I felt sorry for her too until I actually watched her content & then I saw the bigger picture. Eugenia & her mother are mentally ill. It seems a no win situation as both do not want her in treatment. Let her be on social platforms but age restrict it at least. As for people saying mean things in the comments, well she is on a public platform. Trust me she loves the hate. It’s part of the sickness. Everyone is watching because they think she’s about to die. For all the “mean” comments she gets there are many “fans” who tell her she looks great. I feel sorry for the people watching her going well, she’s ok, so maybe their ED is not that bad. Or worse thinking they can get much skinnier because look how emaciated she is.
she probably cant do anything for herself at this point and is so ill that she thinks she is fine, at this point it is the other people in her life's fault for her being like this
A common symptom of anorexia, especially when extreme, is not wanting to get help, or not believing that you need help. In this type of situation, the best thing to do would be for a parent/ guardian to commit her to a treatment facility at least to the point where she isn’t on deaths door. Obviously her family do not care about her getting better. While technically she does have free will, the mental illness (anorexia is both a mental and physical illness) is causing her to not think clearly. Especially considering the fact that your brain also needs food to work properly, you can see ugh the fact that she often stutters and loses track of what she is thinking. So yeah I don’t think it’s entirely just her fault.
Good to have your input on this sensitive topic. I totally agree
This is so sad. I really hope she gets the help she needs.
Breaks my heart on so many levels. I've followed her since high school.
Part 2 lets go
Hating and caring is different.
Hating can often make the behaviour worsen… but that’s my past experiences
Thank you Abbey. You’re a bright light in a dim industry.
I don’t think we have let her down. I think her parents have. I check her profile once in a while to see if she’s still alive and everytime I get shocked and surprised . Feels guilty for wondering how she’s still not dead but this is what she wants and how she wants to be.
One thing i absolutely loathe is how yhe internet infantalizes her. Shes an adult woman and she absolutely knows what shes doing with her content. It's intentional. She has agency. Her behaviour is problematic and shes not an innocent bystander. Shes not a helpless little girl.
She's sick and that doesn't excuse a damn thing.
Please stop calling her a Girl. She is a woman. We should all stop calling her a girl, she is not, she is not a baby, she doesn’t need her parents - on the contrary, if someone ever needed to go no contact, it’s her.
I feel so sad for her. I struggled with severe anorexia for 6 years and continued to struggle with the disorder, in terms of restriction and the self abusive mindset, for a decade. It's not a happy place to exist. I actually thought i felt extremely confident with my body during those years but I would totally remove myself from the world if I was an ounce over a certain weight, my days revolved around my body. It was so lonely.
I come at this from the perspective of having severe OCD and Body Dysmorphic Disorder= the compulsion to cause myself physical harm including a full blown ED. Eugenia is only one of millions of people being let down by the mental health systems around the world. i’m in Australia and have personally got lucky with my current outpatient treatment team but have experienced terrible care while inpatient. I saw people unalive. In all kinds of ways too. If her life does end I hope eventually it can be seen as an example of everything not to do and hopefully some idea of what should be done to save someone with a severe mental illness + devastating physical consequences. Or at the very least support them through their end of life. She needs support, that’s what breaks my heart. She knows she is dying, and it’s quite likely no medical intervention can stop that now. Surely she deserves psychological support to comfort her as she reaches end of life. It hasn’t been a choice for her. And trust me, she is suffering badly.
Thank you I appreciate you and what you do on here so much thank you.
I’m late to this but this is such a refreshing take. I absolutely agree with you
I have ocd. Giving us reassurance when we fish for it is the worst. And in healing and coping my loved ones know when I’m searching for reassurance and know to not give it. Views and comments of Eugenia’s page are only feeding her “reassurance” seeking. Like arguing with a conspiracist- refuting their belief only fuels their opposition. Report and hide Eugenia’s content at all costs
The details I left out are that OCD and EDs share a lot of characteristics and cycle behaviors. Which is why I used the example
There’s only so much people on CZcams can do for her. She or someone in her life has to help her, and she really needs it. People can report her content, but CZcams just doesn’t care to do anything about it
I stopped watching her after the whole Jaclynn Glenn situation where she says the best thing we can do is say nothing and stop engaging with her posts. This was after they had her 50150ed and Eugenia went on to Shane Dawsons documentary about her. It always left a sour taste in my mouth that so many creators see someone clearly sick and exploiting them for content. I think the best thing we can do is offer is silence and love. I hope she gets help but also wants it. At this point if might even be too late for her. That is such a scary thing to say cause you want to hope they can get better but it's looking very bleak.
I think the best thing other than not engaging is also reporting her account, first of all for her benefit and also for the benefit of the children / many impressionable people on this app. If she doesn’t have a platform, then I bet it is likely she would be more willing to get help and do treatment.
Need part 2. She’s incredible to remember. she’s blessed to still be with us
I was unaware of this person so I went and looked her up. I’m not kidding when I say that it literally made me sick to my stomach to see her. How is she still alive???? She is literally a living skeleton!!! This poor woman needs to be committed so that she gets the mental help she so desperately needs!!! I’m praying for her because I don’t know how long someone can exist like that but I do know that it’s doing long term damage to her body.
You’re always classy, Abbey. Thank you for being such a kind person.
I think about her and check in occasionally to see if she's alive honestly. I pray for her but I do not like and watch her contents I see if she's posted and that's it. I agree completely with what your saying here. Thanks for saying it it needed to be said by someone with views
Well said. Well said. I also feel that we as a humanity have failed.
Eugenia is almost 30 yrs old. People think she is a teenager.
she knows what she's doing. Also, youtube needs to remove her content
Nobody let this girl down. Maybe the mother but that’s it. She has had countless chances to get help, WAY more help than any other random person would ever be offered in their lifetime.. And she’s chosen to stay the way she is. It’s like a drug addict. Sometimes you just have to walk away. That’s how they wanna live then let them and move on.
And yes this is coming from someone who actually experienced and recovered from a serious eating disorder. I made a choice and I fought. And I don’t have a lot of empathy for people who can’t do the same.
I think it would help you to know that a SYMPTOM of anorexia is not wanting help/ not believing you are sick enough to need help. Yes, even with people as thin as her. It’s good that you made the choice to fight out of that system, but the help she has been offered hasn’t been achievable for her. At this point in her eating disorder, the best thing to do would be to involuntarily commit her to a treatment facility so she doesn’t die. Her parents could easily be helping with this but they choose not to. I have a feeling that if you had zero support system during that time in your life, you wouldn’t have wanted to be better either. Just something to think about, as someone who also suffered from severe anorexia.
I’m glad people are speaking up
It breaks my heart to see anyone struggle with mental illness or health issues. I had to stop watching her videos because she’s showing medical signs now, that are leading to organ failure. It’s heartbreaking.
Authorities should hold her parents accountable. No matter what her age, her parents the people exploit her and making money out of her
How has she not been committed yet? I’m genuinely curious how she hasn’t been deemed mentally unfit to make her own decisions and removed from her parents ‘supervision’. This reminds me of elder abuse cases.
@@strawberrycherrybabyshe has been. They couldn’t hold her, she went home, and she said she has no plans to change and there’s nothing wrong with her. At almost 30yrs old, she has to accept the help and want recovery.
"We let her down" isnt she almost 30? The level of grace yall give some people is so wild.
Eating disorders are a mental health issue. Mental health issues don’t discriminate by age
Yeah I feel for her but no one’s cares about my disorders lol :/
Why does her age matter
@@megadeltsmarcy I mean I understand your point and it’s valid. At some point though it’s like.. I wish this energy was extended to other people too. There’s younger people who suffer, who maybe actually WANT the help but don’t receive it. At some point you have to own and take responsibility, although I do feel this has been going on since she was a child. She was neglected and therefore is trapped within the mental capacity of seemingly a teenager. So abuse. Kind of like a Gypsy Rose Blanchard
@@BabyBoy_Milothe point is she is often infantilized because she acts like a teenager. People need to stop paying attention to her because it validates her even more. It’s no one’s fault that they are mentally ill. However it is their responsibility in either seeking help or accepting the help that’s offered. Society cannot force her to get better until she’s ready to and wants to. For some that day comes. For others it doesn’t. But you cannot force someone into true recovery.
I have had to constantly ask CZcams to stop showing me her content. I never was a viewer of her before but I sure as hell am not now. I really don’t even want to be on the internet after her passing. I know it’s going to be everywhere and I just don’t want to see it. I saw a video recently that basically said now is the time to either be kind or be silent because these are the last things she’s ever going to see. And as sad as that is, it’s true.
At the m time of typing this she has confirmed on her tt that she is in recovery, I wish her all the best
I have her blocked on all media. You, as well as many others who would typically remain silent are making videos. This is so terrifying, because I really feel like it's a way for folks to say their goodbyes. 💔💔💔
ABSOLUTELY!! the discussions around her anger me. no one has the authority to talk because they typically have no idea the complexity of any ED. they know nothing yet they talk and talk...
if i heard many of the things she's heard i would be in her exact position.
if anyone can take anything from my opinion on this, as someone who was heavily disordered and trying to avoid relapse:
stop commenting
stop liking
if you're going to view her content directly bypass views by going incognito or just. dont watch.
Another good option is to use the “im not interested” button, or report/ block her. But as someone who also has recovered from an ed, yes.
Bethany's honestly incredible in this video - so gentle and understanding, making space for Dav in a truly authentic way. I hope she continues to love the Lord if thats what brings her happiness and feels true and authentic for her, and love others who don't ❤
Very true. I wish someone responsible could step in.
Its sad yt still doesn't allow us to block people
Cams pictures have been so good. I loved the chat gpt giving Ethan the lupus glory medal. And the autism one
I don’t understand why these platforms are ok with standing by and watching it in REAL TIME. She shouldn’t be suffering through this there’s so much help out there. 😢
Thanks for saying something. ❤
How can you disregard the body? That’s the most obvious sign of anything not being well, a doctor looks at you that’s the first thing they do.