Are you cooking the flavor out of your food?

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    In cooking, it’s difficult to preserve flavor AND create flavor at the same time.
    𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰 𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘁𝘆-𝗴𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘁𝘆:
    -Chambers E 4th, Koppel K. Associations of volatile compounds with sensory aroma and flavor: the complex nature of flavor. Molecules. 2013 Apr 25;18(5):4887-905. doi: 10.3390/molecules18054887
    -Rocha SM, Costa CP, Martins C. Aroma Clouds of Foods: A Step Forward to Unveil Food Aroma Complexity Using GC × GC. Front Chem. 2022 Mar 1;10:820749. doi: 10.3389/fchem.2022.820749.
    -Kays SJ and Wang Y (2000). Thermally induced flavor compounds. HortScience. 35, 1002-1012. doi: 10.21273/HORTSCI.35.6.1002
    -Spence C. What Is the Relationship between the Presence of Volatile Organic Compounds in Food and Drink Products and Multisensory Flavour Perception? Foods. 2021 Jul 6;10(7):1570. doi: 10.3390/foods10071570.
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  • @MinuteFood
    @MinuteFood  Před 6 měsíci +36

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    • @matthewharris-levesque5809
      @matthewharris-levesque5809 Před 6 měsíci

      You need to consider editing this video. Eating tomato leaves is not recommended and can cause gastro distress and other concerns in children. Casual suggestions of using them in cooking, without warnings, isn't really the best practice.

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  • @Ruruskadooo
    @Ruruskadooo Před 6 měsíci +316

    Aside from the smell itself being part of the taste, imo it makes food more enjoyable when you can smell it in the house while it's cooking and it smells delicious; it builds up the anticipation and enhances the later eating experience. So much of the enjoyment of food is how you perceive it, and there's just something about the experience of smelling a delicious home cooked meal wafting through the house that feels so happy and comforting, especially if you're going to sit down and enjoy it together with loved ones once it's done.

    • @AdmiralThumbs
      @AdmiralThumbs Před 6 měsíci +9

      Yeah, I was going to say something like this. I wonder if there have been any studies into the psychological effects of smelling good food before tasting/eating it. Perhaps the smells you get in advance are not wasted, but rather investments that yield a more enjoyable experience overall.

    • @cromcorgetti
      @cromcorgetti Před 6 měsíci +7

      In my experience, it's a double edged sword where I sometimes end up feeling like my food tastes flat due to odor fatigue of cooking for hours and smelling the same cooking. This is all anecdotal but I've read others experiencing the same thing.

    • @Mattrk698
      @Mattrk698 Před 6 měsíci

      I think it goes around that, the anticipation of the flavor, people who can't smell anything are able to taste the food and enjoy it equally

  • @asdfghyter
    @asdfghyter Před 6 měsíci +51

    i feel like the main thing missing in the original quotes (apart from "is it a significant amount you lose?") is that you actually need the volatilization for it to taste/smell anything, so it is very helpful to create the environment where the aroma compounds are likely to escape before serving

  • @miigon9117
    @miigon9117 Před 6 měsíci +30

    Becoming stressed out about losing flavor when smelling good aroma sounds so bad and goes against a big part of cooking and eating delicious food: making yourself happy. I would say just enjoy yourself and don't worry about it.

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Exactly, imo if you made yummy smelling food, unless something went horribly wrong that's a strong indicator it's gonna taste yummy... especially because as we've already talked about a lot here, smell is flavor

  • @icecreambone
    @icecreambone Před 6 měsíci +363

    i feel like the unanswered question here is whether you are actually losing a significant amount of flavor. a gas or aerosol is much less dense than a liquid or a solid after all

    • @brothermine2292
      @brothermine2292 Před 6 měsíci +46

      That question was covered beginning at 2:40.

    • @keelanrose5706
      @keelanrose5706 Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@brothermine2292 I feel like it was just a little bit vague. But hey ho, still not a bad video :)

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 Před 6 měsíci +21

      @@keelanrose5706 It's a bit vague because there is no yes or no to it, and the vagueness of all of this is acknowledged in the video. But I agree, Minutefood did an awesome job explaining a broad and rather still unknown topic

    • @collinfant5146
      @collinfant5146 Před 3 měsíci +1

      If you're cooking over a really long time yes. Like in say a crockpot. Otherwise no.

  • @k_fuller
    @k_fuller Před 6 měsíci +93

    I loved the shout-out to America's Test Kitchen! I was thinking of that tomato video the whole time. They have a similar hack for strawberries, where they add blended freeze dried strawberries at the end. On the flip side, when making broccoli cheddar soup, they say to simmer the broccoli for twenty minutes because in that case you want to boil off the sulfur aromas so that you're left with the nutty and subtler flavors.

    • @lordofthestrings86
      @lordofthestrings86 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I’d always heard that tomato leaves were poisonous. After looking in to it, that is not the case. I’m curious though, do you basically treat them like a bay leaf and take out before serving?

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ⁠​⁠@@lordofthestrings86I would assume so, but depends on the dish. Tomato leaves are much more tender than bay leaves, they’re more akin to spinach.
      The myth isn’t entirely unfounded. Many parts of plants in the nightshade family (solanaceae) can be dangerous. For example, tomato leaves are fine, but potato leaves aren’t.

  • @ankokuraven
    @ankokuraven Před 6 měsíci +7

    One thing i will add, getting a food to the state its releasing those volatile aromas, means it will be pumping out those aromas while you are eating them. some of those compounds would not get released during consumption if they were cold.

  • @gleann_cuilinn
    @gleann_cuilinn Před 6 měsíci +27

    The tip about tomato leaves is super useful because I have a tomato plant that makes tons of leaves but not many tomatoes... now i can use it for something

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb Před 6 měsíci +12

      tomato leaves are mildly poisonous

    • @Bb-yr1cu
      @Bb-yr1cu Před 6 měsíci +5

      @oldcowbb
      Exactly my thought! It is not very safe to consume any parts of the tomato plant except for the fruit, since they are poisonous. Composting them is a much better idea imo, it can give you more tomatoes in the next growing season! :D

    • @LibertyMonk
      @LibertyMonk Před 6 měsíci +4

      ​@@oldcowbbonly very mildly. You're more likely to get heartburn from the acidity in the tomato sauce/dish than feel anything from a pinch of tomato leaves mixed into a pot of sauce.

  • @genericalias5756
    @genericalias5756 Před 6 měsíci +32

    not always a bad thing though: if you've ever cooked beef or lamb start to finish in a pressure cooker, you might have noticed some odors that stick around at the end

  • @thomassebastian7
    @thomassebastian7 Před 6 měsíci +4

    1:06 This was exactly what I tried to explain to people. Smelling and tasting are the same. If you smell something, you indirectly are tasting it. If you taste something, you indirectly are smelling it.

  • @lumination0923
    @lumination0923 Před 6 měsíci +11

    That explains why every time my mom cooks it smells so amazing but the actual food itself is bland and sometimes even terrible! I don't think she's a food nerd like everyone here but I might experiment with this once I start cooking on my own

    • @LibertyMonk
      @LibertyMonk Před 6 měsíci +19

      She also might just, not add salt or oil/butter to bring out the flavor of the dish. Heat control is really important for flavor, but if there's no salt to bring out the flavor, or no fats to spread the flavor over your tongue, it'll seem bland.

    • @randomjunkohyeah1
      @randomjunkohyeah1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      It’s extremely unlikely that the stuff in this video has anything to do with it.

  • @miandrew88
    @miandrew88 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks for explaining some of the stuff I've inherently learned from cooking like adding fresh herbs at the end of cooking! Love this channel

  • @iagocasabiellgonzalez7807
    @iagocasabiellgonzalez7807 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Totally agree. Think onion dice. When cooking on olive oil at a mild frying boil 'till it gets transparent it gives tons of aroma (some times too much, if the onion is wilder), and the resulting base can be used for a million different dishes, giving flavor but not killing all others, a positive thing. Evaporating cooking water to concentrate flavor is another of my favorite tricks.

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold Před 6 měsíci +94

    To me, aroma is the entire thing that makes things taste. I unfortunately have Corona at the moment and lost my taste, but I still taste sour, salt and heat. The rest is completely gone though (usually temporarily fortunately). But that you loose enough to evaporation to even notice, I also never believed that exactly because it's a small percentage.

    • @claranyman5708
      @claranyman5708 Před 6 měsíci +4

      SAME. Im also sick atm and Ive lost my sense of smell and by far the worst part of this is that I can't taste food properly anymore. Everything just tastes vaguely sour!

    • @keelanrose5706
      @keelanrose5706 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It depends. If you add some fresh herbs at the beginning when cooking a stew or something I can well imagine their flavour cooking away. Generally I think you're right though. It's simply a negligible amount.

    • @tomclanys
      @tomclanys Před 6 měsíci +3

      Once I had that virus I lost my smell and taste for like 4 days, but like... completely. I couldn't even smell alcohol, chilli powder or pepper. I couldn't even feel their burn at all! That was the weirdest thing ever. Weirdly enough nothing tasted "bad", but the texture was more noticeable, but nothing was disguisting or anything like that.

    • @durdleduc8520
      @durdleduc8520 Před 6 měsíci +1

      i was pretty surprised when she said that scientists were unsure how much aroma contributes to flavor -- based on accounts like yours, i thought it was universally agreed that smell IS flavor! get well soon.

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@durdleduc8520 Well yeah, their account is from having covid, which interrupts both senses. So as scientists said, we don't know how much aroma contributes to the flavor of food and how much of it is actually just taste

  • @PredictableEnigma
    @PredictableEnigma Před 6 měsíci +6

    I think smelling it before eating while it's cooking means you are still getting the pleasurable benefits of those compounds, just earlier. The anticipation of the food you get from smelling the scents coming from the kitchen is just as good as the scents you get when you are actively eating the food! Not lost scent/flavor, just timed differently.

  • @blainebickle1178
    @blainebickle1178 Před 3 měsíci

    I love how you make food science easier to understand with these concise videos!

  • @LimeyLassen
    @LimeyLassen Před 6 měsíci +7

    I wonder, if the whole room smells good from the food, can you even tell the difference where that aroma is coming from?

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah smells get more intense the closer the source is and since some compounds vanish very quickly the aroma is much more complex when fresh

  • @satansamael666
    @satansamael666 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Also to caveat the argument, you are also losing undesirable odors as well. So that’s another factor to consider.

    • @MinuteFood
      @MinuteFood  Před 6 měsíci

      A great point! Fish sauce is my favorite example of this.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I wish I had a sense of smell so I could enjoy aroma… it sounds so nice to be able to tell if someone is cooking from another room and enjoy it

  • @xelaxander
    @xelaxander Před 6 měsíci +3

    I noticed that risotto is way more flavorful if the cheese is added just at the end. Somit seems to matter for some dishes where one adds flavor compounds in low concentrations. If the flavor compound is produced by heat, like in many Maillard reactions, it doesn’t seem to really matter.

  • @MuttonTheDragon
    @MuttonTheDragon Před 6 měsíci +6

    Smells also get your mouth watering for good food, helping with the digestion process early on.

  • @L0v3Aesthetix
    @L0v3Aesthetix Před 2 měsíci

    I love food and about cooking. And new subscriber!

  • @akpak4449
    @akpak4449 Před 6 měsíci

    Huge added value in those videos!

  • @MathewSan_
    @MathewSan_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video 👍🔝

  • @narutokunn
    @narutokunn Před 6 měsíci

    I can't cook ANYTHING but I LOVE THIS CHANNEL.Thankyou

  • @samanthaDH
    @samanthaDH Před 6 měsíci

    1:55 Whoaaaaa
    The biggest/only thing my mom taught me with cooking growing up is that, "If you can smell it, it's done" and holy heck there's science to back her up!

  • @christopherkarr1872
    @christopherkarr1872 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice video - I've been saying this for years. Volatile aromatic compounds *are* smell, and adding, say, vegetables to a stock near the end of stock cooking significantly improves flavor retention.

  • @KristenRowenPliske
    @KristenRowenPliske Před 6 měsíci +2

    I lost my sense of smell after a bad sinus infection (not COVID) & that DEFINITELY affected my sense of taste. It took a couple years before I regained anything, at first just string odors & flavors & now moderate.
    I could always sense heat from spices (I can’t tolerate them 🤷🏽‍♀️) & much of what I don’t like is texture-based anyway. I ate what I knew I liked & tried a few other things that I normally wouldn’t have been interested in. My mom was more concerned about it than I was; it didn’t stop me from getting hungry & eating.

  • @anthonylosego
    @anthonylosego Před 5 měsíci

    The layering function is probably key. Cook first, layer up later before serving.

  • @ramblingsofgabby
    @ramblingsofgabby Před 6 měsíci +1

    When I make soup I noticed a trend of adding vinegar or acid as a last step off heat, but sometimes I've had to play with the flavours to get the soup where I want and the acid will fade. It's also not nearly as prevalent in any leftover soups

  • @clankb2o5
    @clankb2o5 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Some people in the comments seem to think that tomato leaves are poisonous, but a quick google search tells me that they're perfectly fine to eat. Happy cooking!

  • @crazyrocket2900
    @crazyrocket2900 Před 6 měsíci +5

    People always ask me if I can't taste food as well because I can't smell. I think I just can't sense the compounds at the really low concentrations people normally can like you discussed because I can (sort of) taste a lot of the things you said you mostly smell and don't taste. I have actually fallen out with a lot of the things in that list (my sense of smell slowly deteriorated). Some examples being vanilla and chocolate (it's usually too sweet for me now). I never liked almond so I don't have anything to compare, I love the acidity of tomatoes and lemons so I don't know if that's supposed to have some deeper layer to the flavor. I like cinnamon but it does feel like I have to put a lot of cinnamon on stuff in order to taste it. I switched away from coffee to tea because I like the slower release in caffeine so that one doesn't count, and I still like parsley and sage. (I wasn't aware bread had an aroma)

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'm a bit similar, I lost a portion of my sense of smell after an ATV accident. It feels like it depends on the day and even time of day, and temperature, but I'd describe it as exactly that, like I needed a higher concentration of the actual molecules to be able to smell it versus people around me.
      I too, didn't know bread had an aroma until I started eating breads besides white bread, but it's never been strong. Very maillard-y smell with a sort of starchiness similar to potato, but I cant smell bread at all during the night

    • @crazyrocket2900
      @crazyrocket2900 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@cherriberri8373 That's strange that it varies! For me the whole process was a slow decay over years and it will sometimes be not as bad for a day but it returns to where it's at now which is pretty thoroughly not being able to smell.
      I am an undergrad in chemistry and math so I get to test that sometimes too with some funky stuff.
      Pretty much my only experience with directly smelling things anymore is if they're very strong or occasional bouts of smelling fairly random things very intensely. I'm not entirely convinced the second one is real though because I ask my wife if she can smell it too and she has no clue what I'm talking about so I tend not to share anymore because I don't want people thinking I'm crazy.
      I noticed that I'm starting to forget what things are supposed to smell like but with things like bread I think it's just that they blend into the background so you don't think about the smell of bread until you lost it and then just assumed it must not have had a sent. I had a similar thing with chocolate funnily enough (another one in that frame of foods we mostly smell the taste of them) and only recently my wife told me that it does have a smell - she was working in a candy store.

    • @LibertyMonk
      @LibertyMonk Před 6 měsíci

      "the acidity of tomatoes but don't know if there's more to it than that" wow. The acidity is an important part of it's profile, but only in the way the milk chocolate is sweet and dark chocolate is bitter. I can't even imagine what it'd be like without aromatics/volatiles.

    • @AySz88
      @AySz88 Před 6 měsíci +1

      As clarification, the distinctive smell of bread is often identified as "freshly baked bread" or toast, and is a classic maillard reaction example. Lemons (citronellal) and tomatoes (lots - see "The Genetic Basis of Tomato Aroma") each have fairly potent smells from just breaking the plants' cell walls (ex. zesting lemon skins), not just the acidity.

  • @tonatiuhl.8433
    @tonatiuhl.8433 Před 6 měsíci

    In coffee there is a new method used to keep the volatile compounds created during the extraction: a frozen metal ball between your shot and your cup.
    there are some good videos about it, i love this kind of tricks

  • @nocsha4119
    @nocsha4119 Před 5 měsíci

    Im kinda glad i saw this because o want to make a tea concentrate anf was wondering the same

  • @drunkenobservations7483
    @drunkenobservations7483 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have wondered about this with stock making. I go for around 4 hours, while I have friends that believe in 24 hrs.

  • @babilon6097
    @babilon6097 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I like your flavour of humour. I hope you're not running out any time soon.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks so much

  • @Wildhorn666
    @Wildhorn666 Před 6 měsíci

    Was expecting an AirUp sponsorship with that subject.

  • @SkylerLinux
    @SkylerLinux Před 6 měsíci +1

    On the point of preserving the smells in food as you're cooking them, cook in a pressure pot. It's both faster to cook AND with a higher pressure the compounds will cook-off at higher temps & slower

  • @savvivixen8490
    @savvivixen8490 Před 5 měsíci

    All I know is that my dad taught me to "flavor for loss." I already know a measure of flavor will be inevitably lost during the cooking process, so seasoning my dish in a way to compensate for the inevitable loss based on volume, temperature, and water/lipid content has saved me a good deal of trouble with my dishes and baked goods.

  • @gildedbear5355
    @gildedbear5355 Před 6 měsíci

    I think the better way to look at it would be that cooking changes flavor and the scents of the cooking food are indicators of how those changes are progressing.

  • @dhruvpatel.1001
    @dhruvpatel.1001 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yes, I don't wanna accept that, the smell replaces the flavour, I really love the smell/flavour from the Maillard reaction! 😋

  • @BIGWUNuvDbunch
    @BIGWUNuvDbunch Před 6 měsíci

    Minute food dropping another banger!

  • @EnRav1
    @EnRav1 Před 5 měsíci

    I feel like that one tasting water by smelling company would've been the perfect sponsor for this video

  • @ciaduck
    @ciaduck Před 6 měsíci +2

    This reminds me of tea brewing temperature. Green tea tastes bitter and sad if you brew it at boiling. If you brew it at 170 degress F (the correct temperature) it is sweet and sometime grassy. The hotter temperature scalds the leaves, destroying the sweet flavors and producing bitter ones.

    • @MinuteFood
      @MinuteFood  Před 6 měsíci +2

      We just might have a video in the pipeline on this very topic...

  • @billmcdonald4335
    @billmcdonald4335 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm anosmic, so cooking for me is all about sight, sound, feel, and taste. I've learned over the years what works for me and what does not.

  • @Xloi63
    @Xloi63 Před 6 měsíci

    In mead brewing, I’ve learned that you should only add your flavouring ingredients like fruit and flowers during the secondary fermentation stage. If they are put in too early, the intense agitation of the primary fermentation will blow off all of those flavourful volatile compounds that would make your brew complex and unique.
    Not waiting for the first fermentation to wind down explains why my meads all came out with the same sort of funky taste.

  • @emiliomurkmere
    @emiliomurkmere Před 6 měsíci +2

    2:04 omg khachapuri!!! my georgian friend's mom makes this so much and its sooo goooddd

  • @reneejoseph5334
    @reneejoseph5334 Před 5 měsíci

    Bro I’m not even trolling this channel is so educational

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      @CaritasGothKaraoke Před 2 měsíci

      Don’t call people “bro”. Especially don’t call women “bro”.
      Just stop saying “bro” altogether. Seriously. Abolish the word, even for brothers.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi Před 4 měsíci

    I like the hypothesis, and I like it be left as an academic exercise. I think we've all been there where we cook until something smells good. We don't want the previous lost smells, we want the food to reach the point where the smell is good and then we know it has reached the point of being delicious and we can stop cooking. And think about all the sauces, like the basic italian tomato meat sauce, that is left on the stove instead of taken out right when all the parts of it have been heated. The flavour basically gets better the longer you let it sit. While losing all those smell molecules "for no good reason". I think it's one of those nice to know mechanics and theory that don't have much to guide in practice (other than don't roast your food for a long time when it's done).

  • @savagesarethebest7251
    @savagesarethebest7251 Před 5 měsíci

    Adding some of the ingredients later is something I and my girlfriend already have figured out together by ourselves :)

  • @GoodTIMeMoviesNL
    @GoodTIMeMoviesNL Před 6 měsíci

    Wow you guys in America now also have tony Chocolonely, that os good to see.

  • @GameDesignerJDG
    @GameDesignerJDG Před 6 měsíci +7

    There are ways to preserve aroma compounds, if you want to go to the effort. I propose there are 3 ways: condensing, dissolving, and capturing.
    Condensing is when a gas (such as a volatilized compound) loses heat and changes phase back to a solid or liquid. You can condense the flavours by keeping the lid on your pot as you cook. Many flavour compounds will condense on the surface of the lid and should fall back into the dish you're cooking. You could take this to the extreme by cooling down your lid with ice water or building a lid with active cooling (either with AC / a heat pump or by pumping cold liquid over it). Disadvantages: only compounds that become volatile at temperatures above that of your condensing surface (the lid in the examples above) can be collected this way.
    It's possible to dissolve volatile flavour compounds into another substance, like water, oil, or alcohol to prevent them from escaping the dish. You can do this by simply adding water, fat, or alcohol to your dish. If you want to collect the most volatile compounds, I suppose the best option would be to create a continuous supply of mist in the pot. Misting the liquid would increase the surface area and dispersion of the solvent (water, oil, and alcohol), which would increase the probability of capturing stray compounds. Disadvantages: Only compounds that dissolve in the solvent you use can be collected this way. Water dissolves different compounds than oil which dissolves different compounds than alcohol. In addition, adding solvent to your cooking inherently changes the recipe that you're trying to create.
    Lastly, you can prevent volatile compounds from escaping by literally trapping or capturing them inside something that you don't open until later. Fried chicken captures the flavour of the meat inside by creating a crispy shell around the food. Certain baked goods can capture the flavours of things baked in them. That's why pigs in a blanket taste better than hotdogs. You can also keep the food in a closed container while it cooks, but that would usually turn it into a pressure chamber, which isn't ideal. The best way to take advantage of this is to eat the package the food came in, but another way is to wrap the food in tinfoil or boil it in a vacuum sealed bag suited for the task. Disadvantages: heating a completely closed package is usually a bad idea. And partially open packages can let some compounds out.
    Combining 2 or all of these techniques is easy. Putting a lid on your pot condenses volatile compounds on the surface of the lid, as well as condenses water to dissolve the compounds, and it constricts paths for the compounds to escape, even if it doesn't completely capture them.

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yes, steam distillation is actually one way how aroma compounds are extracted (e.g. essential oils). The efficiency depends on steam volatility of the said compound (see e.g. Raoult's law).

  • @hopsiepike
    @hopsiepike Před 5 měsíci

    It depends on how volatile the aromatic is - some definitely cook off faster than others. Saffron, for example, can disappear if added too early.

  • @armagetronfasttrack9808
    @armagetronfasttrack9808 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Do any research papers actually show that _any_ relevant aroma compounds (aside from maybe ethanol) are vaporized enough during a typical home cooking process to reduce their concentration to ~50% or less? For example, for the tomato sauce trick, are they sure that the fresh tomato flavors are actually being "cooked off" (vaporized) and not just undergoing chemical reactions due to the heat?
    If there aren't any actual examples in the research, then I would say it's totally irrelevant to even consider trying to "save" any aroma loss through vaporization since the concentration of the aromas is not even changing in a significant way due to vaporization.

  • @jon1913
    @jon1913 Před 6 měsíci

    Oh food puns, you always get me.

  • @P_Chalou
    @P_Chalou Před 6 měsíci

    I guess you have to learn by experience which compounds are completely lost with heating. I certainly cannot tell, but we all usually add herbs at the final stages. Another thing I have noticed is that when I use white wine with nice fruity and flower scent, I smell something really amazing, but I have lost all the aroma after 2-3 minutes. So I have come to decide that I will add the wine just before I remove from the heat, even if alcohol remains at the end

  • @yellowflowerorangeflower5706
    @yellowflowerorangeflower5706 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Also much of the pleasure of cooking itself comes from the aroma

  • @brothermine2292
    @brothermine2292 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Do pressure cookers preserve flavor?

  • @travisretriever7473
    @travisretriever7473 Před 6 měsíci

    "That's my two scents"
    ...
    Take my fucking like, lady!

  • @BastiatC
    @BastiatC Před 6 měsíci

    I'm not even through the intro and I can already hear the Cajuns laughing.

  • @MBKill3rCat
    @MBKill3rCat Před 6 měsíci

    It's not just smell, but I find if I add herbs at the start of cooking, their flavour is much diminished compared to adding them near the end

  • @jakeehrlich8113
    @jakeehrlich8113 Před 6 měsíci

    For compounds that can re-dissolve (not sure which these are) and don’t break down (not sure which ones these are either) cooking them in a confined space and then letting them cool back down would in theory preserve them. If you sous vide pineapple juice before using it as a marinade for meat or as a flavoring agent in bread you can denature the bromine enzymes that break down protein/gluten while maintaining more of those fresh volatile compounds. This sort of “pasteurized” pineapple juice doesn’t taste quite as fresh as the real stuff but it is a lot better than boiling it.
    Another aside, some foods/aromas like lemon are particularly or easy to boil off. Boiled lemon juice tastes like sour water but you can cook strawberry jam quite a lot and it retains its flavor. I think in some cases it’s just because the volatile compounds themselves are more volatile (truffles seem to be an instance of this), and in other cases the viscosity/solidness of the food might not be allowing the compounds to escape as quickly until you break them down and increase their surface area by chewing in your mouth.

  • @sfllaw
    @sfllaw Před 6 měsíci

    5:16 You fooled me into thinking that you'd partnered with @TwoCentsPBS! 😅

  • @kloassie
    @kloassie Před 6 měsíci +2

    How about putting a lid on the pan to trap the aroma until the food is served

  • @sandwich2473
    @sandwich2473 Před 5 měsíci

    When I had covid I lost my smell entirely for almost a year
    I could still taste perfectly fine but all food was limited to the basic senses of sweet, satly, etf
    Funnily enough, when I started to get my smell back I fell in love with coffee :P

  • @mathewritchie
    @mathewritchie Před 6 měsíci +1

    On the other hand it is possible to eliminate flavor from food a few years ago I did some work at lake Argyle diamond mine when I went to the mess for dinner and breakfast all the food was tasteless and no amount of salt or chilli sauce could fix the problem,I have since found other food suppliers with the same magical anti flavor technology but never found out how they do it.

  • @MultiLeandrini
    @MultiLeandrini Před 6 měsíci

    This is so interesting, and I never really thought about this.
    But there is a premise in this video: "flavor" that the eater gets is of absolute importance but the smell of processing the food is irrelevant (in terms of pleasure of the cooker, not in the sense of information so that we know how good is the cooking process going).
    In my opinion the smells I get while cooking are good and pleasurable on their own, I don't think I would like it very much to cook in an odourless environment. Part of the good experience of eating is also the cooking. (Although -again, as you said, it's complicated- because as you smell the stuff you're cooking you also lose sensibility to the flavour when eating)

  • @michaelboucher1023
    @michaelboucher1023 Před 4 měsíci

    So tomato leaves are edibile?

  • @Ryak1234
    @Ryak1234 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Isn't it the same thing for poop smell in the bathroom? Is it literally tiny volatile particle of feces in the air?

  • @TK_Brainslug
    @TK_Brainslug Před 6 měsíci

    my granny cooked red cabbage so long the was almost no colour left in it. My mom cooked it properly I hated it same with sourkraut which i quite unusual being a german myself

  • @christophermcclellan8730
    @christophermcclellan8730 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Aren’t the green parts of tomato plants (i.e. the not tomato parts) poisonous though??

  • @bastiat6865
    @bastiat6865 Před 5 měsíci

    Great info. What are the two books under "Science and Cooking"?

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 Před 5 měsíci

      One is cooking for geeks. The other I can’t see, but I’m assuming “acid fat acid heat”

  • @elheber
    @elheber Před 5 měsíci +2

    IMHO smelling my delicious food while cooking is part of my meal, and a huge part of why I love cooking. It's like an appetizer. Sorry, no, correction: it's literally an appetizer.

  • @mikeroni
    @mikeroni Před 6 měsíci +3

    I’m not sure it matters if you eat in the same area that you’re cooking in? The smells make their way to your nose either way

  • @MindYourOwnPlate
    @MindYourOwnPlate Před 6 měsíci

    Surstrõmming for sure tastes better than it smells!

  • @marwcelin4022
    @marwcelin4022 Před 6 měsíci

    I wish you could have talked about ways to reduce flavor instead of increasing it too but few things you said could be very useful like using an air fryer, I just wish there were ways of doing that without making the whole house smell terribly

  • @mael1515
    @mael1515 Před 6 měsíci

    Sous vide would have been an interesting element here: air tight cooking could mean more flavor?

  • @bensoncheung2801
    @bensoncheung2801 Před 6 měsíci

    Totally.

  • @Dondlo46
    @Dondlo46 Před 6 měsíci

    2:04 isn't that Georgian food on the drawing? that's awesome to see the food get recognized

  • @Rkcuddles
    @Rkcuddles Před 6 měsíci

    As always your puns and red hair stick figure are my favorite
    Wait how come I can't taste anything when I lose my sense of smell when I have the flu? I thought without the smell, your taste buds don't get prepared so you don't taste the food as well.

  • @jonmedina259
    @jonmedina259 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I always heard that tomato leaves are toxic to eat.

  • @HelPfeffer
    @HelPfeffer Před 6 měsíci

    0:21
    me: "oh, so more flavor means more smell, right?"
    her: *the other way around*
    me: 🤔

  • @SnowsLife
    @SnowsLife Před 6 měsíci

    basically, fresh bread is a smell. fresh bread is also a taste. temperature is key for taste... soo Ideally , you would have both, but the combination of the latter is ideal.

  • @SaulKohn
    @SaulKohn Před 6 měsíci

    Wait -- are tomato leaves edible? Or do you need to fish them back out before serving?

  • @mwnation5686
    @mwnation5686 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey heads up you said to throw in tomato leaves not basil leaves. Tomato leaves are mild posion.

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 Před 5 měsíci

      Tomato leaves are ok! But many other in the family (eg potato leaves) are not

    • @CaritasGothKaraoke
      @CaritasGothKaraoke Před 2 měsíci

      No, they are not okay.
      tomato leaves are indeed considered to be poisonous. They contain alkaloids such as tomatine and solanine, which can be harmful if ingested in large quantities. These compounds are part of the plant’s natural defences against pests and diseases. While a small amount of leaf might not cause harm, it’s best to avoid consumption of tomato leaves to prevent potential toxic effects, such as gastrointestinal distress and nervous system effects. It’s the fruit that’s meant for eating, not the leaves or stems.

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 Před 2 měsíci

      @@CaritasGothKaraoke in high quantities. An adult can eat about 450g of tomato leaves before they start feeling sick.

  • @zerocalvin
    @zerocalvin Před 6 měsíci

    people that say "smell is lost flavor" forget that aeromantic is a thing... many things we use in cooking like garlic and pepper is for the smell rather than taste... smell is also a good indicator of cooking time.

  • @Lennard222
    @Lennard222 Před 6 měsíci

    I would guess that when aromas are still tightly bound in the food, they do not as easily get into our nose while eating.
    Ever eaten cold spaghetti? Its harder to taste the delicate aromas.

  • @ydrib6086
    @ydrib6086 Před 6 měsíci

    Yes, yes i am

  • @Jeyekomon
    @Jeyekomon Před 5 měsíci

    I wonder what would happen if I cooked my tomato sauce not 20 minutes but let's say 20 hours (while keeping the amount of water). Without any lid, letting all the flavor leave. Would I really feel the lack of taste? It is worth a try.

    • @techheck3358
      @techheck3358 Před 5 měsíci

      It would certainly taste different, cooking tomato sauces for a longg time is widely known to make them tastier, but that is mostly done covered so it doesn’t dry up. It would be an interesting test

  • @rhettdownen6873
    @rhettdownen6873 Před 6 měsíci

    Cooks of so many cultures have been perfecting this for centuries as an art. Science is barely catching up. Humans are pretty clever.

  • @user-ib3hr8bg8d
    @user-ib3hr8bg8d Před 2 měsíci +1

    Aren't tomato leaves like really poisonous?

  • @resart5445
    @resart5445 Před 6 měsíci

    And thats why i use smelling salt instead of regular salt

  • @brukujinbrokujin7802
    @brukujinbrokujin7802 Před 6 měsíci

    I have been cooking for years and let me tell you, DO NOT worry about lost flavor.
    Having aroma also means that the temperature is "just right" to activate those aroma compound. And letting some lost doesnt mean anything. Airborne compound is so minuscule that it doesnt affect the food. If your food is aromatic that means it is at the best temperature.
    Remember when you can smell lets say olive oil ? What you smell is volatile compound. Even if you let your olive oil for weeks it wont lose "flavor".

  • @mooing_cowmilk
    @mooing_cowmilk Před 6 měsíci

    friendly reminder that when you smell PO from the last person who used the bathroom, your consuming their waste products :)

  • @IWouldLikeToRemainAnonymous
    @IWouldLikeToRemainAnonymous Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video! I immidiately got suspicious of the claim covered in the video. It is really much like with nutrients in food. When you cook some food you will be breaking down some nutrients that you no longer will absorb (in that way at least) but you are also rendering even more nutrients out of other bits when cooking and making them more bio-available in the digestion. I am all for questioning old wisdom but this was like a no-brainer. If the good smell of food made food worse to taste we wouldn't be cooking and reheating food in the first place. Ancient humans and civilizations did not know the science of how cooked food is more nutritious so had the smell generated in the cooking process actually made the food flavour worse than to not cook these ancient people wouldn't waste resources on doing it. Then we have the personal experience; aside from certain beverages and desserts, don't most of us think that most food is better when cooked/warm rather than having it cold?

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Nah, there are definitely some foods I prefer cold honestly! But I think that just goes to show that they're few in number, and I like most of them hot too even if I prefer them cold. One easy example is basically any salad

    • @IWouldLikeToRemainAnonymous
      @IWouldLikeToRemainAnonymous Před 6 měsíci

      @@cherriberri8373 Just my point! I realized after I posted that I didn't include salads among the exemptions but should have because hot iceberg, arugula or romaine is not generally good. But otherwise, most foods are considered good or better when warm, by most people.

  • @nefelpitou
    @nefelpitou Před 6 měsíci

    Maybe the ideal way to solve this would be to cook all food under a condesner column of some sort, therefore trapping all of the volatile flavor compounds!

  • @Finian1
    @Finian1 Před 4 měsíci

    this is like food theory

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPH Před 5 měsíci

    1:16 studied neurology and people have lost their sense of smell, leaving only taste behind.
    "Taste" is mostly smell.
    Sweet, salty, bitter, sour (umami? Popularized after my studies lol)