How Good Was Kevin McHale REALLY?

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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  Před 4 lety +251

    Would McHale be as good in today’s NBA?

    • @CoolcatInfinity
      @CoolcatInfinity Před 4 lety +69

      Yes

    • @fortnitejake850
      @fortnitejake850 Před 4 lety +9

      Yea.. I doubt it

    • @jordanwilliams5673
      @jordanwilliams5673 Před 4 lety +59

      Better

    • @mprattyh3
      @mprattyh3 Před 4 lety +38

      No question

    • @jingqi9106
      @jingqi9106 Před 4 lety +55

      McHale would probably have to change his game if he played today. He basically played from 10 ft and closer for most of his touches but he did have a good midrange jump shot. In today's game he would probably play the 5 because even though he was 6'10", he had long arms and excellent timing on both offensive, defense, and on the boards. In today's game he'd probably shoot an even higher % in the low post because of the open lane and rules that favor the offense. I don't think the NBA has ever seen a power forward with better moves and scoring ability in the post than a prime Kevin Mchale.

  • @ZiggyMercury
    @ZiggyMercury Před 4 lety +150

    Averaging 60% from the field over a whole season with 17 shots per game is insane.

    • @MikeBrownLegend
      @MikeBrownLegend Před 3 lety +24

      And this was when they played defense in the NBA

    • @gevorkgk
      @gevorkgk Před 10 měsíci

      Ya. Thats really impressive.

    • @MrBubblecake
      @MrBubblecake Před 9 měsíci

      @@MikeBrownLegendfouling isn’t defense, that wasn’t defense, it was a bunch of scrubs who couldn’t play it who had to resort to fouling and hoping the refs didn’t call it

    • @matthewbarry1746
      @matthewbarry1746 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@MrBubblecakeSo you've never heard of the hand check rule. Nice to know you know nothing about the game.

  • @jingqi9106
    @jingqi9106 Před 4 lety +563

    Kevin McHale was basically unstoppable when he received the ball on the low block because he had more moves than U-Haul and was deadly accurate. Charles Barkley called him the best low post player he ever saw. On the Celtics he was known as the "Black Hole" because once you passed the ball down to McHale, the ball never came back out. Lol

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 4 lety +57

      I'm pretty sure it was Danny Ainge that called him a "black hole". You know you're a ball hog when your own teammates are calling you nicknames about it. lol

    • @jingqi9106
      @jingqi9106 Před 4 lety +22

      @@jonnyarnett I think you're right about it being Danny Ainge that came up that nickname. McHale probably never passed the ball back out because he knew he'd never see the rock again. lol I'd love to see you do a feature on the great Rick Barry although getting video on Barry might be a challenge. Barry is so underrated but was such a great player.

    • @290TheEmpireRecords
      @290TheEmpireRecords Před 4 lety +16

      @@jonnyarnett well after winning 2 6th man of year awards he wanted the rock!!

    • @husseinalhadi5471
      @husseinalhadi5471 Před 4 lety +12

      Jonny Arnett -NBA CZcamsr yes Ainge did say that and Parish followed up by saying but he hits such a high percentage of his shots nobody has a problem with it

    • @billbright100
      @billbright100 Před 4 lety +14

      I watched nearly every Celtics game in the 80s. I saw him pass it out many times. It was a lot less than most because when he got the ball on his spot it was nearly an automatic 2 and a lot of old school 3s. He was as unstoppable as Kareem on the block only with more moves.

  • @Maximillian200HP
    @Maximillian200HP Před 4 lety +584

    I've wanted a decent Kevin McHale Video FOREVER! Countless Larry Bird videos, never seen ONE Specifically about Kevin, well done sir!

    • @Huvrkrft
      @Huvrkrft Před 4 lety +14

      Maxmillian200HP I love bird McHale and the Chief

    • @Johntb100
      @Johntb100 Před 4 lety +2

      Yes

    • @greense65
      @greense65 Před 4 lety +4

      I hated McHale. And I've also been waiting for a video to give this great player the respect he's due!

    • @Maximillian200HP
      @Maximillian200HP Před 4 lety

      @Hello8 goodbye9 Charles Barkley and Isiah Thomas wouldn't have the respect they do for him if that were the case.

    • @patrickj.7887
      @patrickj.7887 Před 4 lety +2

      Max: There are plenty of McHale video's, "McHales 9 day reign, "McHale Scoring Highlights" and more check em out!

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 Před 4 lety +665

    Kevin McHale, the most forgotten power forward of all time.

    • @ja8ames
      @ja8ames Před 4 lety +19

      He was voted one of the 50 greatest in 1997. Cedric Maxwell (who maybe didn't play the exact same position, granted) is much more forgotten, it seems.

    • @KiyanPocket
      @KiyanPocket Před 4 lety +2

      ja8ames
      I don’t even know Maxwell.

    • @seanswinton6242
      @seanswinton6242 Před 4 lety +11

      That man is a beast! McHale should have been MVP in '87 and in the '86 Finals. The played on a broken foot for most of a season. I found him frustrating when he played the Lakers. He was big reason the Lakers lost in those Finals in the '80s. He's my other most respected PF. My favorite is Tim Duncan.

    • @MaximusWolfe
      @MaximusWolfe Před 4 lety +10

      @Hello8 goodbye9
      Even Bird said that McHale was as good if not better than him in '87. He has said this in several interviews. McHale actually finished third in MVP voting.

    • @UpChuckTheBoogie
      @UpChuckTheBoogie Před 4 lety +19

      When McHale was in his prime I would take him over Duncan.

  • @mikedye98
    @mikedye98 Před 4 lety +95

    Growing up in Minnesota, I followed McHale through high school, college and in the NBA. Yes, the greatest post player. We even named our son, now 24, McHale.

    • @TrumpFanNetwork2
      @TrumpFanNetwork2 Před 4 lety +4

      I named my daughter, now 16, Jordan.

    • @patrickmcdowell4933
      @patrickmcdowell4933 Před 2 lety +2

      I remember him at Hibbing High School. Kevin was a couple heads taller than everybody. I loved watching him play with the Celtics.

  • @Keranu
    @Keranu Před 4 lety +76

    Cannot get enough of McHale's footwork. Always a pleasure to watch him slip between defenders like an eel.

  • @curtishopkins8252
    @curtishopkins8252 Před 4 lety +260

    I saw him play many times. Underrated? Extremely so. He is up there with the best.

    • @baroneb5043
      @baroneb5043 Před 4 lety +9

      Saw him play during his prime in the 80's my Dad had season tickets... There is no more " low post " game but if there was NOONE better than McHale low post....& I'd bet my balls that no team better than 86 Celtics...

    • @israelPoplife
      @israelPoplife Před 4 lety

      Curtis Hopkins could be the name of an underrated legend also.

    • @housesports000
      @housesports000 Před 4 lety +1

      Was averaging 26 and 10 in 87’

    • @dp233332
      @dp233332 Před 4 lety

      @@housesports000 yep and he never sniffed those numbers again after the injury

    • @magichands135
      @magichands135 Před 2 lety

      I thought underrated too, but he's in the top 50 of all time, so nah.

  • @williamteter9474
    @williamteter9474 Před 4 lety +212

    He had some of the best low post moves ever! Some of the guys today could really learn a lot by studying his film.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 4 lety +5

      McHale had Hakeem's footwork before Hakeem did - though I suspect they both learned their footwork from the same sources.

    • @DC-ck6bp
      @DC-ck6bp Před 4 lety +7

      I don't think today's players try to learn from that. Players now a days today practice more on how to get away with traveling the "legal" way AKA james harden. Dwight Howard and lebron James are 2 players that received one on one coaching from olajuwon and nothing stuck to them!

    • @MrKelly-ll1lx
      @MrKelly-ll1lx Před 4 lety +2

      Yup! I stole post moves from him 25 yrs ago as a highschool hoop player and they still work on these youngstas today 😆😝

    • @kevinpardini8254
      @kevinpardini8254 Před 4 lety +2

      You said some. All of the guys today with how bad there foot work is they could learn. A post guy with great foot work and low post moves could dominate today.

    • @MrKelly-ll1lx
      @MrKelly-ll1lx Před 4 lety

      @@kevinpardini8254 Yup!

  • @exiledknight3961
    @exiledknight3961 Před 4 lety +275

    Dude was 6 10 with an 8 foot wingspan. Largest ape index in sports history of + 14 inches.

    • @bigmant-rex9864
      @bigmant-rex9864 Před 4 lety +15

      GerMart bruh... what?

    • @bigmant-rex9864
      @bigmant-rex9864 Před 4 lety +13

      GerMart how is “ape index” racist towards non whites? It’s a measurement

    • @rahowherox1177
      @rahowherox1177 Před 4 lety +1

      F me, havent heard ape factor mentioned for 25 years...

    • @dookiepuddle
      @dookiepuddle Před 4 lety +17

      @GerMart You're the only dimwit who brought up race. Enjoy the video and shut up.

    • @htut80
      @htut80 Před 4 lety +8

      Wow, you're really edgy. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @budfox2337
    @budfox2337 Před 4 lety +57

    Being a Celtics season ticket holder in the 80’s, I can say that he was one of the most underrated players of all time. He was the best Low Post player ever.

    • @titletownakaboston3909
      @titletownakaboston3909 Před 4 lety +3

      My husband had season tickets too, but when we moved out to California in '80, he gave up the tickets. A year later we moved back and I would stand in line for tickets. One time I got there at 5am and the line seemed like a mile long. We would get in groups and start talking. Little by little the line would move. I noticed this guy in the group behind us who wasn't there before. Then he got in our group and started talking to us. After a while he got in the group in front of us. I tapped him on the shoulder and yelled at him to get behind me and he did. He started talking with us again then went in the group in front of us again. I tapped him on the shoulder and yelled at him, once more to get behind me. He was pissed, but too bad. I wasn't letting this jerk go ahead of me. 5 o'clock comes and I was the last person they let in the door. He had to come back the next day. That would have been me if I had let him get in front of me.

    • @budfox2337
      @budfox2337 Před 3 lety +1

      Raymond Langdon,
      Olajuwon was a better overall player than McHale, no doubt about that.

    • @AntickUamba
      @AntickUamba Před 3 lety +1

      @Raymond Langdon hakeem was better further from the basket. Mchale was a demon low post

    • @elchichosantana6410
      @elchichosantana6410 Před 3 lety

      Just want to ask how fast was he during his prime? He looked slow footed and easy to block.

    • @budfox2337
      @budfox2337 Před 3 lety

      McHale wasn’t fast, but the game was different back then. The Bigs stayed in the paint and guys drove to the hoop. He dominated offensively and defensively down low.

  • @HDRed-cs5ym
    @HDRed-cs5ym Před 4 lety +34

    He was amazing, and his extremely long arms made him very hard to guard, and added to his defense!!! He was one of the greatest, and most unusual players I've ever seen!!!

  • @chuckweicha1
    @chuckweicha1 Před 4 lety +156

    Speaking of underrated Celtics Dennis Johnson would be a good player to do as well

    • @williambaugus927
      @williambaugus927 Před 4 lety +6

      DJ was incredible. Those teams were as good as any of the super teams today. Better in my opinion

    • @holeefuk4614
      @holeefuk4614 Před 4 lety

      @@ROBERTTONUS neither Maxwell or DJ were underrated both were highly regarded

    • @holeefuk4614
      @holeefuk4614 Před 4 lety

      @@ROBERTTONUS here's a mention BIRD STEALS THE BALL... Pass to DJ!!
      czcams.com/video/H_RJ5XN8TK8/video.html 🏀

    • @tommyboy1675
      @tommyboy1675 Před 4 lety +2

      Magic said that DJ was one of the toughest defensive players that ever guarded him; that should tell you everything you need to know about DJ.

    • @holeefuk4614
      @holeefuk4614 Před 4 lety +3

      @@ROBERTTONUS the best part (as always) Johnny Most losing his fucking mind lol

  • @jeusvox2878
    @jeusvox2878 Před 4 lety +284

    KM suffers from the same stigma as Pippen. Playing next to a super star will always over shadow everyone else no matter how good they are.

    • @big8dog887
      @big8dog887 Před 4 lety +23

      How's this for a team? Scottie Pippen, Kevin McHale, James Worthy, Pau Gasol, and Tony Parker? All played second banana, but this is a great lineup. I know Pippen and Worthy were both small forwards, but Scottie could probably handle the "2". (Sorry, but I have a hard time putting D-Wade in this category, having led a title winner before LeBron came along.)
      Edit: Klay Thompson might be a great shooting guard for this discussion, but I can't take either Worthy or Pippen out of the lineup. Manu Ginobilli might be worth mentioning, too, but I already have a Tim Duncan teammate.

    • @jeusvox2878
      @jeusvox2878 Před 4 lety +8

      @@big8dog887 that's actually an insane lineup as far as chemistry due to every player having the ability to score, but are used to being 2nd or 3rd options, so are also willing passers, and great defense. And Klay could come off the bench and also be a closer, hes lights out, and having him fresh off the bench is a nightmare for any team. But yeah, Parker honestly glues that squad together, Ginobili and Duncan would be good for that team as well.

    • @harrycraft5100
      @harrycraft5100 Před 4 lety +10

      Dont believe Pippen was n McHale s league

    • @matteowatteo1296
      @matteowatteo1296 Před 4 lety +14

      @@harrycraft5100 Pippen one of the greatest small forwards, swing men in NBA history. Plus he played in your jock, shut down D. The greatest "help" defender I have ever seen in 50 years of watching basketball. Not comparing the two men as they played 2 completely different roles and positions. Pippen will never get his due as he was the Lou Gehrig to MJ'S Babe Ruth. Neither will McHale.

    • @matteowatteo1296
      @matteowatteo1296 Před 4 lety +2

      @Jon Dhoe Bird made McHale great. What's your point? Was McHale on the dream team? Not 1/2 the defender, scorer or athlete Scottie was. You have no argument.

  • @akbarralston9714
    @akbarralston9714 Před 4 lety +25

    Most underrated Celtic player in history ...

  • @freddieagnir3138
    @freddieagnir3138 Před rokem +5

    Best moves ever. On his first step, he could shoot the fall away, which would have a release point about 15’ from the basket. If he decided to pivot back up and under, the release point was right under the basket. So much range! Unstoppable.

  • @marcosmartinez8088
    @marcosmartinez8088 Před 4 lety +46

    You forgot to mention he has the second largest wingspan, like 8'2 i think, just behind Manute Bol. He is definitely a top 10 of all time pf, but i believe this is the most underrated position too, guys like McHale, Pettit, Jerry Lucas, Worthy, Webber and Hayes get overshadow by TD, Dirk, the mailman, the big ticket and Barkley.

    • @ramonvicentevallesterosric7802
      @ramonvicentevallesterosric7802 Před 4 lety +3

      TBF... it's either they were in the Dark Ages,Golden Age or played with Legends.
      They say a bright star may dim other stars that are near it.

  • @lmcgjr.4032
    @lmcgjr.4032 Před 4 lety +45

    McHale was great in the post and a true team player!

  • @alexgriffin1726
    @alexgriffin1726 Před 4 lety +106

    Easy top 5 power forwards his low post moves was devastating. Being a Lakers fan at the time I hated him but totally respected him.

    • @dirklerxstpratt2112
      @dirklerxstpratt2112 Před 4 lety +10

      He was the toughest guy for the Lakers defense to handle. Cooper did a good job defensively on Bird and Kareem could handle Parish but they had no consistent answer for McHale.

    • @randycrocker9459
      @randycrocker9459 Před 4 lety +6

      I bow to your class, not many have that much of it. My privalage and honor, thank you...

    • @randycrocker9459
      @randycrocker9459 Před 4 lety +3

      Thats privilege

    • @kdonovan221
      @kdonovan221 Před 4 lety +4

      Alex Griffin I applaud you for recognizing an opponents player for being so good. Not many like you Alex not many

    • @alexgriffin1726
      @alexgriffin1726 Před 4 lety +5

      Thanks u can't help but to respect the Celtics at the time and ohhhh weeee Bird gave me fits but watching him taught me the fade away I had as a kid. Much respect to those guys I hated to see his career cut so short.

  • @saiyansomething73
    @saiyansomething73 Před 4 lety +36

    I remember in one game in particular he put about five different moves on his defender who was still reacting to move number three when McHale put in a layup against him. I loved watching the futlity that defenders had to endure when playing Kevin McHale.

  • @micktuna27
    @micktuna27 Před 4 lety +62

    I definitely place him on my all-time team. As a teammate he was superb. I loved his effort and combined with Parrish and Bird, they are the finest front court ever.

    • @Hallstyle
      @Hallstyle Před 4 lety +3

      It just sucked that Parrish Bird and Mchale seemed to all get old the same year.. Parrish was REALLY old but Bird and Mchale just had a lot of road miles on them...

    • @ixine-yz5uh
      @ixine-yz5uh Před 4 lety

      U gay

  • @fnieves01
    @fnieves01 Před 4 lety +19

    I love me some kevin. This man was impossible to defend in the low post. Watch “the best off” this man.
    His foot work is incredible. He goes up strong. Or goes up to fake, repeatedly until he’s open.
    Under rated as a player.

  • @j34xalphaking87
    @j34xalphaking87 Před 4 lety +28

    Kevin Mchale was a beast in the low post One of my favorite players along with Larry Legend.

  • @Ace-ek4bf
    @Ace-ek4bf Před 4 lety +20

    Don’t forget this man has a 8 foot wingspan. That’s crazy.

  • @DeTroit-rv1sq
    @DeTroit-rv1sq Před 3 lety +8

    McHale was a monster, his footwork was legendary.

  • @Flametree1492
    @Flametree1492 Před 4 lety +34

    One of my favorite player, pleasure to watch, he frustrated many a defensive players.

  • @MaximusWolfe
    @MaximusWolfe Před 4 lety +11

    Literally the most underrated player of all time. One of top 5 Celtics ever (Bird, Russel, Pierce, Hondo). The premier power forward of the 1980's. Period. One of the 20 best players in NBA history. Period. And that's being conservative. He is literally ignored for being white, gangly and playing on the same team as arguably the best player of all time. Had he played for any other team he would have won at least one MVP. He was and is the supreme genius of the lower pivot, post up offensive game. Only Hakeem and Tim Duncan can realistically compare to Kevin in that hugely important category.

  • @adrenalineunlimited
    @adrenalineunlimited Před 4 lety +25

    Haven't watched yet, excited to see the man of 1,000 post moves. Unguardable

  • @stevend4433
    @stevend4433 Před 4 lety +5

    He was flat-out Unstoppable definitely one of the top 5 power forwards of all time

  • @keithconnell8460
    @keithconnell8460 Před 4 lety +15

    I always thought that McHale had the best inside post moves of any player I had ever seen in the NBA. Especially when you consider he wasn't a bully like Shaq, for example. McHale didn't knock you down and then just dunk on you. That over-under move was just amazing, and everyone knew it was coming. Couldn't stop it though.

    • @markuyehara7880
      @markuyehara7880 Před 4 lety +1

      Olajuwon's post game was better but there's hardly any shame in coming second to that beast.

    • @patrickmcdowell4933
      @patrickmcdowell4933 Před 2 lety

      I agree. McHale was the best ever!

  • @l31007
    @l31007 Před 4 lety +17

    When Michael and Kobe steal your moves, you gotta be something special.

  • @IsMa-he5gr
    @IsMa-he5gr Před 4 lety +27

    Best moves on the low post ever, so effortlessly and accurate.

    • @porkfrog2785
      @porkfrog2785 Před 4 lety +3

      like a snake on 2 feet, tying you up in knots, twisting this way and that, utterly unpredictable-could fall away, go over, around, under...Barkley says what you said, adding 'I didn't know what to do with him and HATED playing him'

    • @MetaversalSouljah
      @MetaversalSouljah Před 3 lety

      Hakeem?

  • @grafeebabee
    @grafeebabee Před 4 lety +6

    His down low game was amazing! His drop-step and ability to move on his pivot was awesome!

  • @dwayneaustin6818
    @dwayneaustin6818 Před 4 lety +19

    McHale was the REAL DEAL!!!!

  • @roybarrows9733
    @roybarrows9733 Před 4 lety +4

    It's good to see a Lakers' fan give an honest account of a rival Celtic, giving him the right respect.

  • @KaneDeathBreaker
    @KaneDeathBreaker Před 4 lety +3

    It always amazes me to see a man of his size move so effortlessly around other big men in a crowd and score so easily. He always had such a smooth flow.

  • @Keranu
    @Keranu Před 4 lety +12

    My boy, you granted my wish and created an excellent video as expected! But most impressively you did it all within what... a week after I requested it? You are the MAN.

  • @tomhollis2685
    @tomhollis2685 Před 4 lety +4

    One of my favorite players of all time. Tried to play like him. I still have a McHale t-shirt!

  • @chicobear
    @chicobear Před 4 lety +62

    Jonny: How about a "How Good Was Joe Dumars REALLY?" It would be just as appreciated as this one on Kevin McHale.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 4 lety +8

      Yep, he'll definitely get one at some point, bro. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @randycrocker9459
      @randycrocker9459 Před 4 lety

      Joe Dumars was stupid good, that means even someone thats stupid has to say, "damn, that guy is really good", and i'm not a Pistons fan but he was as good a shooter as anybody, Bird Allen West, he's in that category and thats rarified air.....

    • @markuyehara7880
      @markuyehara7880 Před 4 lety +2

      Joe D was a great all-around guard and one of the best on-ball defenders the NBA has ever seen.

    • @wickedlester5320
      @wickedlester5320 Před 3 lety

      Screw Detroit. 😏

  • @jaronzennaiter
    @jaronzennaiter Před 4 lety +64

    Well done!! 86 Celtics are truly the best ever.

    • @dumisatonyjohnson8145
      @dumisatonyjohnson8145 Před 4 lety +1

      JaronZ
      I gotta go with those 70 win Bulls

    • @kenwilliams3208
      @kenwilliams3208 Před 4 lety +2

      They were indeed- the NBA's finest team ever.

    • @greysonG10
      @greysonG10 Před 4 lety +2

      @@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Bulls had no competition.

    • @birthabutt9555
      @birthabutt9555 Před 4 lety +2

      I agree. They played inside out and could slow it way down with precision. It was unbeliveable to watch.

    • @euroamerican5189
      @euroamerican5189 Před 4 lety +6

      86 Celtics would have ate the 96 bulls alive

  • @eduardoquintero8363
    @eduardoquintero8363 Před 4 lety +7

    Glad you made a video about Kevin McHale, one of the greatest in the post.

  • @jonnuanez2843
    @jonnuanez2843 Před 4 lety +24

    As a Showtime Laker diehard, there was NO way I was going to give any of the Celtics any recognition. Now...yeah we're good lol. Of course, I'm 35 years older than when them and the Lakers had their prime battles; time mellows the vitriol. This was a great video. Thank you very much.

    • @porkfrog2785
      @porkfrog2785 Před 4 lety +2

      'Hate' in sports is the ultimate compliment. Because hate is the flipside of fear. You don't hate easy opponents

    • @audieconrad8995
      @audieconrad8995 Před 4 lety +2

      Respect from a Celtics lifer...

    • @josephgunsher1022
      @josephgunsher1022 Před 4 lety

      I still miss the buffalo braves and 2 for mcAdoo

    • @fredjones9750
      @fredjones9750 Před 4 lety +1

      I felt the same way about pippen. Hated him in day but respect him more in hindsight. One of the great 2 way players.

  • @broaddusmarines
    @broaddusmarines Před 4 lety +45

    Before Tim Duncan stepped on the court, Kevin McHale was considered by most to be the greatest Power Forward to ever play in the NBA.

    • @MaximusWolfe
      @MaximusWolfe Před 4 lety +13

      Those who tout Karl Malone above him are ridiculous. He was great but Kevin was a master whose low post array should be studied minutely by every prospective power forward and center.

    • @jefffawcett
      @jefffawcett Před 4 lety +12

      And let’s be honest, Duncan was more of a center, just because the Spurs called him a forward doesn’t change that.

    • @mikespongili8254
      @mikespongili8254 Před 4 lety +4

      @@MaximusWolfe Karl has the points, true, and it's amazing that he was that good for that long, but was also lucky enough to have had Stockton feeding him the ball, and as top scorer on the Jazz, having plays (pick n roll anyone?) specifically designed to get him open, while McHale was not the centerpiece of the Celtics offense. I can still see Karl, ball cocked above his head, flying in to the basket, knee stuck out in front of him to clear a path...

    • @TheH3dgie
      @TheH3dgie Před 4 lety

      @@jefffawcett Lets be honest, he was a powerforward for his prime. Unless you consider David Robinson, Rasho Nesterovic, Nazr Mohammed and Fabrico Oberto as powerforwards?

    • @jefffawcett
      @jefffawcett Před 4 lety +2

      H3dgie nope. He won his first MVP in 2002 when he was 25 and obviously in his prime. He played 40.5 minutes a game while the 36 year old Robinson played 29.5. No one else on the roster who got any significant minutes was remotely a center so he was spending at least a quarter of his time at the center position. He repeated his MVP in 2003 playing 39 mine minutes a game while Robinson only played in 64 games and just 26 minutes per game. Again no one on the roster was remotely a center besides them so at least half his time was being a center. Then they had Nesterovic playing 28 minutes in 2004 and 25 minutes in 2005, so about 1/3 of Duncan’s minutes at center. 2006 it was Muhammad and Nesterovic splitting time at center, so a PF season for Duncan, the next year just him and they switched his listing to center on the roster. 2008 listed as C, only Elon also got time at the position, 20 minutes a game. Anyway, let’s just say half his career he was playing the center position. In the end it is irrelevant, Duncan is clearly a top 10 player of all time and McHale could’ve been if he hadn’t had the injuries and been forced to play through them.

  • @waterdog1951
    @waterdog1951 Před 4 lety +33

    Charles Barkley said McHale was his toughest opponent. That puts him near the top of all time.

    • @titletownakaboston3909
      @titletownakaboston3909 Před 4 lety

      I can't stand Charles Barkley. He never has anything good to say about the Celtics.

  • @brgreg8725
    @brgreg8725 Před 4 lety +21

    Red traded Joe Barry Carrol for McHale & Chief! What a genius!!

    • @MrBronx61
      @MrBronx61 Před 4 lety +2

      Red was a master in the art of fleecing Myers, lol.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MrBronx61 Red was a master in the art of fleecing.
      Consider the trade that landed him Bill Russell.

    • @MrBronx61
      @MrBronx61 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 - Danny Ainge learned from Red....just ask the Nets, lol.

    • @DaJesta088
      @DaJesta088 Před 4 lety +1

      I don't remember who nicknamed him Joe Barely Cares but no one earned their name more than he did lol

    • @richieboy6825
      @richieboy6825 Před 3 lety

      I remember my NBA book said that JB stood for ‘Just Breathing’. I’m glad I was a Celts fan in the 80’s otherwise they’d be easy to hate- so cocky!!!

  • @Commander76
    @Commander76 Před 3 lety +4

    Most underrated power forward ever. He was a beast. He's my all time pick at the four spot.

  • @fmacias1
    @fmacias1 Před 4 lety +2

    The best footwork ever

  • @jaydubya3698
    @jaydubya3698 Před 4 lety +2

    McHale was a long-armed, boneless wonder with quick feet, unbelieveable post moves, deep armpits and no ability to jump. He was a human octopus doing an impersonation of Frankenstein's monster. Always sweaty and pasty. Awesome defender, one of the greatest players ever down on the block.

  • @baklavaconsumer1080
    @baklavaconsumer1080 Před 4 lety +82

    Paul McCartney was a really good player indeed

    • @Maximillian200HP
      @Maximillian200HP Před 4 lety +12

      Glad I am not the only one who thinks he looks like Paul McCartney! Especially since he's aged! Kevin today looks like Paul did about 15-20 years ago.

    • @porkfrog2785
      @porkfrog2785 Před 4 lety

      McCartney was competent on bass, you shoulda said 'really good songwriter', unless yer saying he LOOKS like Paul and not being sarcastic

    • @billbright100
      @billbright100 Před 4 lety +4

      Lol I never saw the resemblance until now.

    • @porkfrog2785
      @porkfrog2785 Před 4 lety +1

      @AWelsh Celt lol ...you missed the point of the post. McCartney is STILL considered the greatest song-writer EVER, so that's the natural go-to if the OP is being sarcastic. Also, things have an evolutionary historical context....since you're the expert, are PM's abilities on bass considered 'masterful' TODAY, the way McHale's low post moves are STILL considered the BEST today?
      and btw. take it easy buddy. hero worship and emotionalism is unseemly. name-calling is always just funny to me. I am a flawed, fragile human, and make mistakes, but you don't know me or why I wrote what I did. Hopefully you understand me better now and let go of inference. Best wishes, keep playing that axe

    • @ChristineCAlb1
      @ChristineCAlb1 Před 4 lety +1

      Now that you mention it Kevin does look a little like Paul McCartney. Long-lost half brothers

  • @dvdgway
    @dvdgway Před 4 lety +7

    Kevin McHale was the greatest post player with all of his moves I have ever seen, especially his slippery eel move

    • @Johnkoth
      @Johnkoth Před 4 lety

      Same moves as players before him.
      Up and Under has been in the NBA since the 50s.
      Hook has been used before that.
      Fadeaway existed since 50s.

    • @dvdgway
      @dvdgway Před 4 lety +2

      @@Johnkoth true that but I didn't live back then or watch basketball back then, I grew up watching Kevin McHale abuse everybody he played against. And I stand by my words, the greatest post player of all time.

  • @tomsurber2293
    @tomsurber2293 Před 4 lety +1

    The best advice I could give any young big man would be to find every Hakeem Olajuwan and Kevin McHale highlight you can, then lock yourself in a room and memorize every post move you see. The were both geniuses on the low block and could score on anyone down low. Thanks for posting this!

    • @johnnyboy4me
      @johnnyboy4me Před 4 lety

      Truism Tom... Hakeem is underrated. Played hard every night without a true point or consistent guard play period. Tremendous on defence also.
      Both great players.

  • @bilbobaggins5136
    @bilbobaggins5136 Před 4 lety +1

    I lived in Detroit and was a Pistons fan. I hated the Celtics, but I admired all of them. McHale had so many different shots, he was impossible to defend. I loved watching him play.

  • @icecreamforcrowhurst
    @icecreamforcrowhurst Před 4 lety +14

    I watched McHale thru the 80’s and I’m here to tell you: TOP 5 low-post player of ALL TIME. True talk.

    • @eddieash6189
      @eddieash6189 Před 4 lety

      Top 3

    • @malachimatcho7583
      @malachimatcho7583 Před 4 lety +1

      What??? Are you two guys serious??? You gotta be kidding me?! In my opinion, McHale is anywhere from top 6, to top 3 of all time. But BOTH you guys think he’s top 5 to top 3 all time? Are you guys on crack???

    • @eddieash6189
      @eddieash6189 Před 4 lety

      @@malachimatcho7583 you said 3 to 5. I said 3, what's so hard to understand?

    • @malachimatcho7583
      @malachimatcho7583 Před 4 lety +1

      Eddie Ash I was just fuckin around. 😁

    • @eddieash6189
      @eddieash6189 Před 4 lety

      @@malachimatcho7583 well now I feel like a dumbass hahaha! Thanks...I just think its shit how quick people dismiss players from other era's

  • @rogerwelsh2335
    @rogerwelsh2335 Před 4 lety +8

    Best low post power forward ever.
    No one had better low post moves.

  • @celtics17banners84
    @celtics17banners84 Před 4 lety +27

    Great video. Been waiting for this one. Bird doesn’t have 3 Rings without him

    • @porkfrog2785
      @porkfrog2785 Před 4 lety

      nah...2 maybe. Kevin's minutes were actually reduced in the Finals to 13 per game. He was helpful off the bench as a rookie, but green as grass. The fact they cut his playing time around 4 minutes and Cornbread won MVP[tho Bird deserved it more] indicates at that point, just a good rebounding bench player with massive potential..he just didn't know the pro game yet

    • @JFigueroaGuitar
      @JFigueroaGuitar Před 4 lety

      LOL

    • @susanbloodgood3572
      @susanbloodgood3572 Před 4 lety +3

      Mc Hale was awesome, but Bird would have rings no matter who He played with !

  • @JoseGomez-cj1tq
    @JoseGomez-cj1tq Před 4 lety +11

    Frankenstein! That's what we used to call him.

    • @titletownakaboston3909
      @titletownakaboston3909 Před 4 lety

      @Mark Cianfarani That was GREAT!!! I could watch that over and over again!

    • @titletownakaboston3909
      @titletownakaboston3909 Před 4 lety +1

      @Mark Cianfarani No one could pass like Bird. Behind the back, pass, fake it, fake it, pass, between the opponents legs pass, full court pass, fall on the floor - no problem, pass. He did it all.

  • @christopherr3676
    @christopherr3676 Před 4 lety +37

    There was never a more automatic 2 pts in basketball than giving the ball to McHale down in the low post

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 4 lety +1

      Wilt in his late years in the low post was more automatic - but not by a lot.

    • @christopherr3676
      @christopherr3676 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 wasnt great free throw shooter . McHale was

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 Před 4 lety +2

      @@christopherr3676 In his late years, Wilt had gotten smarter about not LETTING folks foul him.
      Kevin was a much better foul shot shooter though at any point of his career vs Wilt's BEST year.

  • @rogerwelsh2335
    @rogerwelsh2335 Před 4 lety +11

    Loved this special but I think Kevin gets a lot of love these days and he deserves it. His peers greatly respect him as the best of his time. I think there has never been a better low post player ever. I got him on my all time team.
    The guy that is grossly and inexplicably underrated is Bernard King.

  • @armandorodriguez6447
    @armandorodriguez6447 Před 3 lety +1

    He was SOLID.... that dude was unmovable in his game

  • @riverjao
    @riverjao Před 4 lety +3

    I love seeing my man K Mac getting some well deserved love!

  • @kaiserrino8774
    @kaiserrino8774 Před 4 lety +4

    Scoring 56 Points in the tough 80s is something else.

  • @vicentesimoes2468
    @vicentesimoes2468 Před 4 lety +9

    It was really nice to see Kevin McHale recognized! Still Im a Lakers lover that would love to see a vídeo like this on Big James Worthy! Thank you

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Před 4 lety +3

      He's gonna get one. Might jump around to a couple other players first, but Big Game James is definitely coming

  • @Madvillainy48
    @Madvillainy48 Před 4 lety +2

    Those numbers almost look like if prime shaq could make free throws. This video is really an eye opener.

  • @michaeljordan6008
    @michaeljordan6008 Před 3 lety +2

    His low post moves and footwork were really amazing.

  • @michaelulbricht9438
    @michaelulbricht9438 Před 3 lety +3

    McHale was one of the most unstoppable players around the rim. His long arms had amazing dexterity. He scored 56, Bird did 60 just 2 weeks later!

  • @ashamael
    @ashamael Před 4 lety +5

    It's really a question of peak vs sustained greatness. At the top of his game, he's top 2 or 3. Same thing with say, Barkley vs Malone. Peak is Chuck, but Mailman did it much longer and at a high enough level that you're honestly splitting hairs. McHale from 85-87 was nigh unstoppable. There's a reason there's a phrase "Kevin McHale-like post moves"

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Před 4 lety +1

      Good point. Granted Tim Duncan stands the test of time as a player overall and for his position. But in terms of other prime talents who played in the 80's to now, its pretty long term consistency and absurd peaks. We recognize the long term of course especially if we saw them play for two decades. But yeah rarely do we speak of 'prime McHale' who had the best combination of measurables and low post offensive scoring to put up nigh absurd efficiency numbers. Barkley flirted with .600 FG before but McHale did it TWICE and was sweet shooting the FTs as well while getting FTAs at a good rate.

    • @dizzyboy352
      @dizzyboy352 Před 4 lety

      ​@@t4d0W and barkley, like lebron, was a heavy steroid user so there is no respect there. kevin mchale was pure talent with a high moral character, he didn't cheat other than the phantom foul calls but that was out of his control. his career just happened to overlap with the godfather of cheating taking over. when david "lowlife" stern took over, he implemented cheating like sports had never seen before, for the love of money which is the root of all evil. implementing subjective officiating, allowing selective steroid use for chosen players=dwight howard, charles barkley, shaq, lebron james, dwayne wade, rigging the draft starting with patrick ewing in 85, etc etc... david stern was a true gangster for capitalism.

  • @tortillasarenotbiceps7622

    One of the best 6th men ever. We got to watch the Celts for years. Kevin is one of the all-time greats.

  • @jlip4308
    @jlip4308 Před 4 lety

    I watched Kev’s first varsity HS games when he came up from the JV in 10th grade. Noticed some talent right away especially his great hands around the hoop. I watched him jumprope with his college coach Jim Dutcher. I was a student and watched practices. They put on an amazing show with quick feet and coordination. Also took my parents from Hibbing to his last Gopher home game. Big time standing ovation from the home crowd. My dad was a hockey guy but became a Celtics fan for one reason...

  • @audieconrad8995
    @audieconrad8995 Před 4 lety +7

    One of the greatest low-post players...EVER.

  • @greglemieux9809
    @greglemieux9809 Před 4 lety +3

    Loved growing up in Massachusetts in the 80's . Go Boston.👍

  • @chuckweicha1
    @chuckweicha1 Před 4 lety +2

    He was awesome...his prime was cut short by his foot injury in '87...a season where he was absolutely heroic playing for 2 months on a broken foot...he was awesome in both ends and unstoppable in the post...legend

    • @Ryan2022
      @Ryan2022 Před 2 lety

      It ruined the rest of his career and he still
      Limps from it

  • @MrBluesmeister
    @MrBluesmeister Před 3 lety

    Good job, love your passion for basketball and the great mini documentaries.

  • @P1nter
    @P1nter Před 4 lety +10

    Great Video again. Keep it up, i really like your content

  • @gregserna963
    @gregserna963 Před 4 lety +7

    I remember him very well, as a Big thorn on the side of my Lakers Showtime & Magic era, Boston had their Big 3 stars with Bird, McHale, & Parrish!!! My 80's Lakers had 4 us it's Magic 4 them it's Tragic!!! Big game James Worthy, and Perhaps the GOAT Scorer, the Captain Kareem Abdul Jabbar!!! It simply made for 1 of the greatest era's in all of Basketball History!!! Magic vs Bird rivalry is Historically the greatest the NBA has ever had, who did Jordan have as a rival?? Stockton 2 Malone? Sorry!!! Doesn't really even compare 2 Lakers vs Celtics WW3 games & Championships in the 80's, guess who was there in the trenches with Bird?? That's right, Kevin McHale!!! Great player that I ever so much despised during Showtime Lakers era of the 80's.

  • @dantean
    @dantean Před 4 lety

    Footwork, footwork, footwork. The transition away from low post basketball has rendered geniuses of footwork such as McHale, Moses Malone, and Hakeem a memory all but forgotten except to those of us old enough to have lived--and HATED--these guys, god bless 'em. McHale was all elbows and footwork and couldn't be stopped. Thanks for posting.

  • @mooeminou
    @mooeminou Před 4 lety +2

    YAY NEW VIDEO! I love u man 😭

  • @BuMMasUmmA
    @BuMMasUmmA Před 4 lety +3

    When he retired he was considered by most the best power forward of all time

  • @dasb00t32
    @dasb00t32 Před 4 lety +14

    Charles Barkley said McHale was the best player he ever played against

    • @eddieash6189
      @eddieash6189 Před 4 lety

      And Charles is always right lol. He also made that comment between licking his fingers

  • @tylerbowling
    @tylerbowling Před 4 lety

    An absolute legend! Thank you for this.

  • @MrArjunchoudhary
    @MrArjunchoudhary Před 4 lety +1

    Another one! Woo! Great way to start a Friday

  • @richsalzer2556
    @richsalzer2556 Před rokem +2

    McHale would be among my top 3or 4 Power Forwards, along w/ Duncan, Dirk, Mailman Malone, Worthy

  • @michaelberta3153
    @michaelberta3153 Před 4 lety +3

    Glad to see he is getting his due. Great player to watch and learn from. I wonder if he invented those moves on his own or was he taught? My second favorite player of all time after MJ.

  • @mams1701
    @mams1701 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video as always! 👍 😃

  • @4WINify
    @4WINify Před 2 lety +1

    Mchale had these secondary moves that no one had and it took defenders by surprise

  • @lamar1990lg
    @lamar1990lg Před 4 lety +10

    Kevin McHale is top 10 PF all time

    • @AceMcSch00ly
      @AceMcSch00ly Před 4 lety +2

      I'd say top 5 in all honesty.
      Kg,Dunan,Malone,Barkley,McCale, Dirk

    • @cesartaker
      @cesartaker Před 4 lety

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 top 50 maybe

    • @lamar1990lg
      @lamar1990lg Před 4 lety +1

      @@cesartaker top 50 PF's??? You bugging lol

    • @cesartaker
      @cesartaker Před 4 lety

      @@lamar1990lg The video clearly states it. He only got 2 good seasons (so that makes him a top 5?) I don't think so...

    • @lamar1990lg
      @lamar1990lg Před 4 lety

      I didn't say Top 5 I said Top 10

  • @jimmyjameson8705
    @jimmyjameson8705 Před 4 lety +9

    The greatest low post player of all time.. Unstoppable.

  • @Blackjacksarmory
    @Blackjacksarmory Před 4 lety

    Great video and Kevin is one of my all time favorite players!

  • @mikeswain6058
    @mikeswain6058 Před 4 lety

    Good video. Truly one of the best. He wuz pretty much unstoppable

  • @RobertoHernandez-bz2hh
    @RobertoHernandez-bz2hh Před 4 lety +4

    The greatest up and under low post player of all time. His up and under moves whats as unstopable as the sky hog of Kareem.

  • @MrSayWhatIThink23
    @MrSayWhatIThink23 Před 4 lety +6

    A prime Kevin McHale is probably the 3rd best PF of all time behind only Duncan & Garnett. Great video, McHale doesn’t get the credit he deserves

    • @WadeWalker22
      @WadeWalker22 Před 4 lety

      Young & Ambitious um dirk have u forgot

    • @MrSayWhatIThink23
      @MrSayWhatIThink23 Před 4 lety

      Wade Walker Dirk ain’t better than Duncan & KG and McHale in his prime was a deadly scorer and better defensively

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 Před 4 lety +1

      @@WadeWalker22 You mean Barkley & Malone.

    • @MISTERO70
      @MISTERO70 Před 4 lety

      McHale trained KG and Duncan tho and Malone was a dirty player.

    • @shiranuiaensland1442
      @shiranuiaensland1442 Před 4 lety

      @@MISTERO70 McHale clotheslined Rambis.

  • @richmcintyre1178
    @richmcintyre1178 Před 3 lety

    Playing on a team with Bird makes it hard to stand out but McHale did and he deserves all the recognition for his contribution. Thanks for shining the spotlight on a true star performer and unselfish player. One thing McHale did very well was to watch for the insane passes he'd get from Bird, great hands, and a high BB IQ.

  • @Mrd9960
    @Mrd9960 Před rokem

    I got his autograph back in 1988, when i was 11, i went to a Celtics game and after the game, all the players were driving their cars out of the parking garage, great memory!

  • @yankeetiger41
    @yankeetiger41 Před 4 lety +15

    "He's the best player I ever played against and had to guard." - Charles Barkley

  • @southwest1988
    @southwest1988 Před 4 lety +10

    I had always said he has to be one of the best one on one McHale will murder Duncan cmon

  • @cd6xc
    @cd6xc Před 3 lety

    One thing that really jumps out from the footage is not only how skilled he is, but that he doesn't hold the ball too much for a low-post guy, it is so fluid the "catch-move-shot" sequence, and you can see that on the multiple double-teams he avoided by simply getting rid of the ball early.

  • @Kbear9762
    @Kbear9762 Před 2 lety

    Besides his amazing talent his enthusiasm and sense of humor make him so likable and his SHOULDERS!

  • @cfapps7865
    @cfapps7865 Před 3 lety +15

    I actually watched him in the State championship High School game in Minnesota. All time great but Bloomington Jefferson whooped Hibbing that night.

  • @reggiespear7455
    @reggiespear7455 Před 4 lety +5

    I think Kevin is the best down low player in nba history

  • @aburnce
    @aburnce Před 4 lety

    I grew up in Boston and was basically between 8 and 21 years old during his career. I was a Celtics obsessive. I watched his whole career. Watching him throw fakes and 1,000 possible moves on defenders in the post was as fun as watching Larry make insane passes and shots. He was pretty much unstoppable in his prime. AND a great defender.

  • @patricklnolen
    @patricklnolen Před 4 lety +3

    Honestly,!on any other team (without Bird) and his name would be more recognized as he would have been the first option