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Hey I'm interested in becoming a truck driver any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and around how much do I expect to be paid yearly again I appreciate all of the help I can get
You got to get away from.each other before it becomes bernard "bernie mac" mccullough "GON BE SOME FURNITURE MOVING 'ROUND THIS M.F."ER TIME" y'all!! #IJS
And it looks like they were in michigan close to or in the detroit metro, greater detroit metro or ann arbor too.
your guy is done! threats of violence will not be tolerated in the states. go back to africa tikki!
Respect goes a long way and even in high school I gave the janitor just as much respect as I gave the principal.
Thatâs a fact bro
I actually gave the janitor a lot more respect than the principal.
I actually threatened to stuff the principal in the toilet!
Wasnât a very well mannered or behaved youngster
@@paulmartin2425 you said respect is earned not given but yet you gave the janitor more respect than the principal so not even you listen to the BS that comes outta of your mouth sit tf down
@@paulmartin2425 I agree with this part, at my job I'm wayyy cooler with the janitor than the warehouse manager not cause of choice but he's just more relatable.
Word!!!!
âIâm from Detroit, you need to talk to me a certain wayââŠâŠ
America is NOT Detroit. Thank god!
Iâm so sick of this shit. People thinking they should be talked too a certain way just because theyâre from certain parts of the country.
Iâll never understand younger guys threatening old dudes with violence. Stand your ground and stick up for yourself, yes. But I donât see the need to threaten an old man unless youâre actually in physical harm.
If the guy's being disrespectful, then he needs to be disrespected. There's a difference between sharing his knowledge about driving, and being full of himself.
@@joshuabrooks4907 âstand your ground and stick up for yourselfâ as I said, but youâre a punk if you have to threaten violence because of your ego. Same if you do that to a woman or a child.
@@joshuabrooks4907 What an idiotic logic.
@@Andy-su5wg Do you drive for a living?
As a trainer, I will say this⊠The situation is as tense for the trainee, as it is for the trainer. I treat everyone with respect, and I calmly give instructions. When it comes to safety, the operatorâs perception is most important. If he felt like he needed to change lanes, to give the trooper room, and he missed the exit, so be it. đ€·đŸââïž We can always turn around..
Good point, the operator's perception should always trump the passenger seat occupant when it comes to snap decisions. I had an instructor tell me to go through a yellow light when we were, I don't know, 200-300 feet away at about 30 mph. I hit the brakes and we stopped easily before the intersection. I'm 100% sure he meant well, but there is definitely gonna be a judgment deficit for the one not holding the wheel.
Depends if your in a b double or a roadtrain sometimes there no where turn around in a single yep you can turn anywhere
Moral od the story if your from Detroit you can act like an idiot
Trainers yell at the trainees behind the wheel. But Iâm not about to switch trainers. I had dickhead trainers but I just did my time and moved on.
I could never train. I know itâs good money, but I need my privacy and my space.
People now a days want respect⊠but wonât give respect. It goes both ways.
Especially trainers.
exactly@@Bluelinechevy82
Blks
@@mehrbhamanu donât belong here bro, youâre a part of the problem
@@marcobarthelemy7460 im not blk you are though
This is a problem in the industry. My trainer was an asshole. And it was 5 weeks of HELL. But I made it and Iâm FINALLY in my own truck.
Did you threaten to fight your instructor?
I don't see why this guy is so friendly with the guy in the video when he's talking about beating up an old man...
DEI politics
He's one of those people who always have to be "down with the culture" no matter what.
Fun story. Iâve had an absolute terrible trainer! He made me instantly rethink and regret truck driving! I yelled at him and called my company and demanded a new trainer! He was a POS
đŻ% SAME
Bro I can't imagine this shit, whenever I read these comments I'm like dude they put y'all together off the rip weeks on end đ€Ł I used to do landscaping travel jobs but whenever I hear shit like this I'm like bro people really work shit like this, not all trucking but some of these shitty trainee and company situations. It's honestly insane, I see why people don't wanna be truckers anymore.
I went through the same thing that black dude went through, EXCEPT mine was for a Yard switcher position. Needless to say I quit, and I was happier quitting than dealing with that mess. Moved on to a better paying field.
@josha.b doge 2 he said he makes more money now though..thats a def win
How you staying fit on the road bro? Iâm in to weight lifting myself and been trucking for a year now. Trying to get some tips to stay fit on the road. Thanks
Same thing happened to me as a trainee. The trainer was the worst person I've ever met.
I feel you, driving for dollar general , the trainer i had kept talking about how he was a school bus driver and got fired being convicted for sexual harrassing some of the girls on the bus, and after drving with him for 2 weeks i could tell, when i have to call the driving manager to get me a different trainer because he kept talking about getting off on little girls, and them telling me to just deal with it. I tell them get me a ride back to the hub, because i quit. Fuck you Schneider and fuck you dollar general.
Me too I had to switch trainers the second week of training
I get along with everyone. Even if I donât like them as a person. They could be the most vile person I ever met, but Iâll get along with them, but once Iâm on my own Iâll never talk to them again
Itâs just a part of the job. No one ever said you had to be friends
I wonât talk to them if I donât think theyâre a good person
An old boss from a workplace I used to work at wanted me to be friends with people there, but I heard the way they talk about one another and they werenât my type. Heck to the NO
Say no more đ Half instructions, expects you to be a mind reader, blames you for things he/she never taught you because they confuse you with an old student. Gets mad when you follow their instructions stringently as you assume they are military style but their instructions are absolute crap and messes up everything.
Not everyone is cut out for teaching. Just because they can do a job doesnât mean they can teach other people to do it.
As a former trainer I can totally relate to this video and see it from both sides. Training a new driver is sometimes stressful and I had one student blow up on me because he felt I talked down to him and didn't show respect. I am also prior military so my tone may have been harsher than what I thought it was. We as trainers have to understand the level of stress that a new driver is feeling and both trainer and student must have a open level of communication and say exactly what's bothering them. Also, sometimes you may have a trainer where it's his or her first time in a management or trainer role and they need to be open to constructive criticism and feedback from the trainee.
Glad you posted this video to let people know it's not always good times in the cab.
So the black man wants to make the white man look like a racist.
How can you support the driver when he's threatening viol.ence?
That truck too small for two grown men who donât know each other. I hated it
Facts
I can't imagine it man I've worked landscaping travel jobs and I hated that shit I can't imagine weeks on end holy shit bro đđđđ
đŻđ
the blaxk guy was in the wrong
Itâs especially too small for 1 grown man and 1 grown childâŠ
Was in the industry since birth. Drove for 40+ years and always tried to help the new drivers. This is just a bad trainer and shouldnât have that distinction!
Do you have any tips for me in offset backing I am in cdl school and struggling to do this
I got my CDL in 2007 and I went through the same thing with my trainer. I had to put him in his place. A lot of these trainers really don't know how to talk to people and that was my exact problem. My trainer spoke to me disrespectfully one time and I stopped him in his tracks. IMMEDIATELY!! Respect is a two way street.
A lot of times people need to have thicker skin
@@educate3d Nobody's skin should be thick enough to endure constant disrespect, I know mine isn't.
@@educate3dyou can say that from the ground with a mouth full of fist.
@@obscurepunkmusic yea ok tough guy. Donât be a bitch. Simple
@Mr.Wilson57 In the army , you know what you're signing up for. CDL Training is far from being in the army. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Where's the footage of the trainer being so aggressive & bothering this guy that provoked his street nonsense as a trainee ? where's THAT footage?.. I'm sure he has it.. right??
NEVER EVER THREATEN A CO-WORKER...OR ANYONE..WITH PHYSICAL VIOLENCE. AUTOMATIC TERMINATION.
More like a warning to me.
But respect is often harder to get than a new job
You think that 'grown ass man' really gives a shit ?
Be a man!
He didnât get fired lol
I've been down that road before. I had a trainer that was an Army Drill Sergeant and we didn't get along at all. I believe that some trainers are in it just for the extra money and have no interest in actually training the new drivers. Some trainers seem to forget that we're all grownups and talking to someone like that isn't going to end well. Respect goes a long way from both sides
Lol army is way different bro 11C
Lmao you got a drill sergeant for a trainer. đ
u better make sure u on time everydayđ
@@overdoseonmynuts better be early.
Lol . Drill sergeant that I'm trapped inside of a small metal box with. No thanks . That's a recipe for a volcanic eruption
I've worked for guys like his trainer and trust me, it didn't last long. You don't get things through to people by yelling at them and losing your temper.
I had 3 trainers with Prime Inc, all were very disrespectful and tried talking crazy to me, they quickly found I wasn't the one...
I was let go by Prime and have been making better money ever since AND home everyday.
Training with a bully is unsafe and dangerous, companies like Prime don't care, to them safety is second to the money and goes out the window when you leave the classroom. I had heard countless stories about it from fellow students but it was still worse than I thought.
Iâm so glad my trainer was cool. Ended up teaming up with him for months then we are still good friends who speak regularly 4 years later.
Driver's forget that we all had to start somewhere. I used to train for one company and always remembered how bad I sucked when I first started out in the trucking industry. And I used the extra pay to make sure the trainee always had good meals everyday. Hey, we got to take care of each other because nobody else is going to. The only ones I have ever had problems with was the " Know it all "...RED FLAG !!!!
Agreed
Thatâs classy!! I canât stand know it alls either
But if they know what they know, just test them on what they claim they know. Problem solved. Some ppl JUST KNOW, even being new to an industry. I been driving trucks my whole life but only had my license a year. So MOST of the things I politely say I knew. Yâall trainers want complete newbieâs to suck your ass and make you feel macho, WHEN YOURE NOT.
100% I work with people that have been with the company for 25 30+ years. They've forgotten how it was for them day 1
My trainer was awesome, me and him are still buddies to this day.
Training was the worst part of driving a truck for a living for me. My trainer was alright, didnât teach me much but sharing a confined space with a total stranger for two weeks was pretty bad. Thankfully he kept a clean truck and didnât smoke. After the two weeks, there was a lot of fear, anxiety and learning things the hard way but 5 years later Iâm still here and running for a small fleet as a O/O making a good living. I will say Iâd never share a truck with anyone ever again. I donât care who you train for, itâs not enough money, period. What would it take me to train someone? 10 grand a week and not a penny less.
Not to mention you can possibly lose your life, while a complete stranger, who's just started driving a truck, hauls you around while you sleep.
â@@kensmechanicalaffair How could you sleep when you're suppose to be training?đŹ
@@juliettevashton1007 How can someone stand up, if they're supposed to sit? Hmmm?
I've been driving for 36 years, and had minimal training in tractor trailer before being cut loose on my own.
I started driving a straight truck for a family owned company doing local deliveries, fresh out of the army, and after 4 years of that experience, they let me practice on backing trailers in their lot. Then I started riding with a guy who had worked for them for 40 years on a dedicated route, that was out and back the same day, about 400 miles. After about 2 days, he rode while I drove, and told me what to look for, such as the usual hazards like other vehicles parked on the shoulder, speed management on downgrades ( which I already learned in a straight truck), and turning on city streets, and being aware of others around me and to read EVERY traffic sign.
He never screamed or cussed when I did something wrong, only gave constructive criticism and advice on how to do it better.
He will never last at any job if he can't handle being told what to do as a new employee.
"I'm from Detroit it's a certain way you have to talk to me" typical. I remember 25 yrs ago when I got behind the wheel, my Godfather said " I am going to piss you off every chance I get" I said why would you do that, he said " because you need to learn to drive stressed out and understand how to drive under pressure and you have to learn how to keep your emotions in check because you can kill someone or yourself. you have to no how to handle stressful situations". Modern truckers have a lot to learn!
Yea but itâs different coming from family
Yesssirr...well.said
Well at least he gave you a warning and explanation before doing so.
I don't even know your Grandfather and I love your Grandfather he sounds like a man's man. I would of found that to be a challenge!!! He is so right tho.
When I was out with my Trainer I had just got married. I went through school I wasn't making no money. I am out 6 weeks with a trainer not making shit. My new wife everyday I can't do this I am getting a divorce you don't make no money. My early years in Trucking was as Stressed as I had ever been.
omg...facts. I've had to learn this as well.
It takes a humble person, to train. It takes even more humility to learn.
Idgaf who you are, you don't disrespect someone because they aren't picking up on things. Unless he puts your life in danger, there is no point in speaking to someone like that
@@TzUuup Not disagreeing with you on that at all but look at the situation at hand. The man was driving a rig down the road when all hell starts to break loose. He was not focused on the serious task at hand and was heavily distracted in a high emotion situation. That could have ended up with him getting in a serious accident. Contain it and get pulled over in a safe place and then handle the secondary issue. A lot of drivers have to learn to set their emotions aside no matter what and remember safety first. That separates the men from the boys. I wish him all the best in starting a career in trucking because it's a real beast of a career like I said.
I disagree,I've been in situations with power trip dorky ass people like this before and it is hard not to react like that man there.Theres a lot of trainers like that that are straight wimps and go on power trips when you give them any type of control over others!!
Did it for 6m for Western Express
Yeah that sounds ridiculous. So everyone who's ever learned anything is incredibly humble? And anyone who's ever trained anyone is also insanely humble? Gtfoh, save that ish for the meditation channel
Well the problem with this video is that it doesn't show what lead up to this. This sounds like it has been building at least a few thousand miles. More than likely their both deprived of sleep, so that'll put'em on edge. Another thing is, even if they're 5 ways to do something and the trainer wants you to do it 1 way then that's the way you'll have to do it. If not he'll report it then all that time will for nothing. Just ride it out till your assigned your own truck, then do it your way. Sometimes you just have to be the bigger man and just grin and bear it.
Man I had a two trainers like that. Iâm so happy I finally found one who was calm and patient and made me feel confident where I am today.
Most blacks I have trained cannot take any criticism. And I they keep making the same mistakes over and over again, so I get louder so it gets through their heads and sure enough "You be disrespecting me" and they always threaten to "beat my ass" I'm done, I will no longer train blacks anymore I just won't, and no I'm not white I'm a Mexican American
Facts. Not all but MOST.
And then wonder why nobody wants them around.
Someone had to say it, white people may get irritated but they stay respectful and know their place as a trainee.
@@Brownsheep10 YES! The white's I have trained never once threatened me or whined about me "disrespecting them" not one. I get why people dont want blacks around. I totally get it now.
I've known trainers who were very knowledgeable but they just don't know how to convey that knowledge to anyone in a digestible way. I've also known trainers who were good at explaining the "why" in a tactful and articulate way. Maybe you're the former and not the latter. Evaluate your own "training" methods before you criticize an entire group of people.
The fact you even have to talk about your race is the problem, and it's part of the social norm that makes certain groups feel like they have a free pass to use that as an excuse.
Truck Driver more like an inmate. First week in truck acting like he owns the truck. Obviously an arrogant narcissist
I donât understand why this channel gave the trainee the respect and spotlight. He was clearly in the wrong. The passenger said for him to change lanes and he started acting like he wasnât in charge. Itâs the passengers truck and heâs training YOU. If you donât like it, donât work for him. But you laughing and cutting up with him didnât seem right. The old dude was telling him to change lanes and he said he wasnât gonna be taking orders from him and then he said this is my truck to park it and he made even more of a seen saying âIâm a alphaâ.
100% I would never want to ride with the driver either.
Them arguing while heâs driving this huge vehicle was making me sweat.
Both of them donkeys, but the black dude seemed to be the bigger degenerate.
Yeah, as he was driving down a mostly empty lane.
@@Naconju yeah doesnât matter trainers donât need to train, unless they want to
Drove for over 15 years. Trained several dozen drivers. Both sides are tough to be in..but as most of the comments have stated..respect goes a long way in both directions. You can learn from anyone.
You can't possibly say you have the full story without having an interview with both sides or at least playing the entire video
This guy threatening violence is not who you want operating an 80,000lb. Vehicle.
Not the kind of person we want in our society.
My very first truck driving job I had I was with a trainer for 4 weeks. Good driver but man was he horrible to be around. This man would yell, scream, call me every name in the book and even threatened violence against me. I reached out to manager to be assigned a different trainer. I was told to suck it up or I was fired. A lot of these trainers are on a serious power trip.
Salute đ«Ą to you. Because i spazzed out on my trainer
@@Don_of_Dons At that time, I had one week to go in my training so I decided to tough it out. It was that or I go back home and be homeless.
@@Bluelinechevy82 man I respect it
Glad it was you and not me.
@Marty Yo ur tuff
I train on my job. There's a way to be direct but also to keep respect. No yelling, no threats, no disrespect.. This went way too far. There is no learning going on when it's like this.
I used to work with these trainers a lot at a mega carrier and I can tell you for matter of fact that the only qualification they need from you is 6 months behind the wheel and a very short class that's like a day or two to validate your understanding of driving. It's sort of like those stupid endorsements where you take a 15 question test and pay $15.
In no way do they actually learn how to properly teach or how to manage interpersonal relationships. They do however teach them about de-escalation techniques and proper methods of reporting issues and complaints.
Trainer talking shit. Then when he stops driving you can see he scared. đ
Dudes threatening an old ass man. Yeah, it's real easy to beat up little kids too, eh? Pussy ass man bullied that old dude.
The trainee was in the wrong and I'd never hire him to clean toilets.
Trainer was wrong and learned quick that he not about to disrespect a person because he feels like it.
Yup if you donât agree. Just tell him to drop you off to the nearest truck stop. The driver can talk to who is in charge of the training department. So you can get another trainer. Someone who can get along with you.
The point is people must respect each other
đâđ . . . I totally agree. I tried to train & realized that i was unable to convey 17yrs experience to new driver. Shout out to the Driving Instructors who have ability to do so successfully.
I'll try not to write a book here. I blame these companies that will let anybody be a trainer so they can get you in a truck. I have heard first hand from drivers that got into physical altercations and even a trainer that was stabbed to death in the truck right before COVID. It was known that one of the companies I worked for would sit you down for a week or more if you asked for another trainer. After getting into a fight they tried to talk a student into getting back into the truck after putting his trainer into a rear naked choke and had to be pulled off of him by dock workers. I do not know too many truck drivers that will let themselves be talked down to like a child. They're not all bad of course but these companies know the history of a problem trainer. Great video.
Weâre hearing 1 side of the story. Iâd like to see the video before things heated up.
Dude, this hit hard for me. As a trainer for CRE I've been on both sides of this situation. I took my training very seriously cause this career can kill. But I never crossed the line where I lost my humanity. Man, I'll be first to tell you that living in a diesel box running team you gotta keep the feelings in check.
Definitely gotta keep the feelings in checkđŻđŻ
âMuch ANGER!â đ
A trainer from cre called me a beaner not cool man
I would never do teams unless it's with my wife. Living in a truck with somebody else is a no no for me.
CRE man oof
As a professional truck driver I've been in the game for 20 years, and one of my worst experience was with these f****** trainers I agree with his brother these damn trainers don't even know how to talk to anyone properly sometimes.
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lol
Facts man if your training someone you got to talk to them a certain way cause not everyone is passive in the learning experience.
Bruh, the funny part is that I could back better than my damn trainer, no cap!!! This was on a local job and with Swift.
I am not a truck driver, but thinking about making a move in this industry when I get out the military, but I can relate to the trainee frustration. Seniority or not, respect goes both ways, I have seen it plenty of times in the service, people just donât know how to talk people and hide behind the rank or seniority status to abuse the their âauthorityâ. It sickens me that people like that even exist. Did the trainee go a little too far? Maybe, but has he been addressed or talked to with decency, this wouldnât have happened.
Iâve been through this same thing with a trainer years ago, He was like an army drill sergeant as well, He told me I would never surmount to anything in trucking and here it is almost 9 years later, Iam still driving and doing well, I totally agree, Some trainers out there is just doing it strictly for the extra money, The trainer was in his 60âs and had admitted to me that he hated the fact that all these new drivers are coming in and are taking over and kind of pushing drivers like him out the door, So he was taking it out on all his trainees, I heard rumors that all his trainees hated him and he had problems with every last one of them smh. He was a very disgruntled guy. What made it even worse is that when I called safety and told them I wanted off the truck, They all took his side over mine and I moved on from that company because I wasnât comfortable being there after that ordeal
Lol you know its gonna suck when your trainer was a drill instructor
Some Trainers talk to trainees like little kids. I would only yell at the trainee if theyâre doing something really wrong that could cause peopleâs lives. Then I will explained donât do that mistake again.
Excuses:
1. I had just got CDL.
2. It was Monday.
3. Only in truck for 20 min.
4. I'm not listening about DOT, I'm just trying to drive.
5. I'm from Detroit, you gotta talk to me different.
6. TALK TO ME RIGHT, or im going to threaten violence. (Good job with keeping stereotypes alive)
Guy finishes the chat with "Let treat each other with respect" whilst his ENTIRE ARGUMENT was "Shut up or I'll fuck you up."
Pfff!
You deserve to get fucked up if U treat the people around u like shit, thatâs what he was saying. The trainer was obviously trying to get a rise out of him
If u had just got ur CDL you wouldnât want some moron screaming at u while ur trying to drive but ok bud
Dave tone switched up real quick when them breaks set đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
đđ His whole demeanor changed! Doing all that wolfing when the truck was moving but wanted to act like he had some sense when that truck stopped. Dave ainât want that smoke
@@anthonywavestrucking đ
Prime example of why some places in this country aren't safe to live in, and why you have to shield you children from stray bullets.
Coming from someone whoâs been driving truck for 29 years now, but never had a trainer, Iâm with you bro after hearing the story. That trainer probably didnât know shit to begin with đ. Good luck to you in the future in your trucking career and stay safe dude
I appreciate him reflecting and owning up to the fact he may have gone overboard. At the end of the day, be respectful to each other, you never know what someone else has been through.
I appreciate what you're saying...
It's challenging to pre-determine my reaction when you act like an ass đ€·đŸââïž
This does happen more than you think.
Sure Does
I went through the same thing that black dude went through, EXCEPT mine was for a Yard switcher position. Needless to say I quit, and I was happier quitting than dealing with that mess. Moved on to a better paying industry.
@@edgardovilla199 was it because a Playa hater lol
Hopefully this man gets blacklisted from trucking. He puts the truck in park and then the wardens physical violence on this old man. What a bad dude.
I guarantee you this trainer is doing it for the MONEY, not because he wants to or is good at training.
Driver will be in jail soon. Canât control his feels
No. It's keeping it real. As a driver out of prison, respect is everything
Get over yourself.
If someone disrespected you. What would you do about it? Would you assault them? Stab them?
Maybe go back to prison if you can't take your feelings getting hurt đ
Dude, I am not going to fucking respect you just because your ass went to prison. You earn respect.
Being the loudest one in the room doesn't always help
meh, i'd like to hear the trainers pov.
Trainers yelling at trainees are not helping the situation. Its either gonna piss off the trainee or make them nervous so they are more prone for mistakes. Some people arent just made to be trainers. period.
Tariq was in the wrong you do not threaten a co worker especially one higher up than you
How about getting both sides of the story, instead of just one side
Interview the older gentleman now, have him talk about his side of the story. Be fair.
that trainer doesn't need to be training anyone, he should be fired
Donât understand the instructor yelling. Just get to the destination. After the trainee leaves, fire/dismiss him remotely.
I agree with him. When speaking with anyone show respect.
Right so listen when someone is trying to talk to you normally and train you instead of being a dismissive ahole....see how that works...
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importance of investment.
Unfortunately, the trainer THOUGHT he could speak to this grown man like a child.
To be a trainer, you must have patience and expect a few mistakes. If these new drivers knew everything, THEY WOULDN'T NEED YOU!
I would have snapped too, female or not. Respect goes a long way and I tolerate NOTHING... One sign, one word of disrespect and that is where all hell will break loose. I want respect since I give it...
I don't blame this brotha for being upset since he was being disrespected by a dude who was clearly OLD enough to know how to be respectful
Y'all better start acting your age.
#YOUR POSITION MEANS SH** TO MOST PEOPLE, SO DON'T TRY IT...
do not hesitate to stop the car and call for assistance... before shit get ugly
I don't understand why they allow assholes to be trainers? Someone for this possition should be chosen based not only on his knowledge but especially based on how he or she is able to deal with other people. What I see is they just allow to be a trainer to every ahole out there no matter what, and that is so fucked up.
Unfortunately the trainer was talking to a child, not a man. Current state of certain demographics in this country. That's why they're inhospitable.
Well you already know your Insta fired for threatening Harm against an employee
Sometimes you gotta check these trainers. They may get carried away with how the speak to you
I doubt you show anyone respect when you speak to them
@@GeorgeLiquor Based on?
@@norfillyson 40+ years of experience in the primate house known as Philadelphia.
Exactly they be undercover racist just looking for a extra piece of change smh
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Spoken like a true d3v1l.
two wrongs don't make right. I wouldn't hire someone displaying lack of ego control. Neither of them
Yea the "Trainer" was way outta line. You dont talk to ppl like that cause they doin something wrong. No one will learn when your being an a hole
What if that was part of the test? Many blacks don't understand that working with heavy equipment requires one to be in control of their emotions no matter what for obvious reasons. You can't always be "keeping it real" and expect to trusted with a potential weapon capable of multiple homicides. That instructor new exactly what he was doing to provoke him and he saved several lives that day.
I was raised up around trucking in the 70's when my dad was a independent owner operator and things were very different. I spent many years trucking longhaul from SC to CA and back.Even owned 2 trucks and was in fleet mgmt. I thought I wanted to try being a trainer. But after doing it a few times, I quickly changed my mind. I'm a patient, easy going guy, and it takes a lot to get me frustrated. Being that I started so young and driven so many different trucks with different trannys.
(9-18's, Duplex-Quad Macks, 3x4's,etc) I felt I had something to offer and could maybe help someone. But my last trainee was a female and pretty much made me call it quits. She was very hyper sensitive, hard headed, and the absolute worst gear grinder I've ever heard in my life.
manuals are obsolete
I was lucky to start driving a straight truck ( fresh out of the army and with only car driving experience) with a small company that gave on the job training.
After 4 years experience, they had a guy who had 40 years experience train me on tractor trailer, on a dedicated account that was out and back the same day, roughly 200 miles each way. I was going to be his replacement because he was retiring and going to part time.
After 36 years, I believe that getting straight truck experience first, goes a long way towards building up enough confidence to train for combination vehicles.
I'm a white dude who had an excellent black trainer from 4 years ago, and we became wonderful friends.
I was financially forced into training when I worked at "wrner" you know the company, while in the trainers course, there were people bragging about what they're going to do to their students as if they're about to be assigned a slave! The biggest problem with the training program is that majority of these trainers don't have enough experience themselves to even attempt to train someone else, now yes I have horror stories with students most of them getting in your truck sick or already having a bad attitude thinking they already know everything but I do know I'd never train again
I made the mistake of leasing through CRE. I only took 6 month lease though just to test the waters. There is no way in hell I was supposed to be out there training with a fresh CDL myself. I had a female trainee who couldn't park for shit. I'd have to park for her and no matter how many times she showered she smelled. She had the nerve to complain. They told me to drop her off at a terminal. THEY GAVE HER HER OWN TRUCK. I sent them a message telling them she didn't know how to drive and they gave her the truck anyways. I tried to show her but people get it in their head they know what's best. We both had no business being in that truck together. I wasn't a trainer. I was still green.
Not learning to train someone isnât an excuse for Not being able to control your emotions. Sound like a man child
@@turtleislandchief she smelled you trying to be a comedian, stop trying to insult people, who raised you đ„
@@turtleislandchief tbh shawty probably didnt shower very well so you wouldnt try her on a sexual level lol. I know some females who probably do weird shit during solo training with males to prevent assault.
@@badhabits21900 đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł my bad but it was the truth. No disrespect to big girls. All she ate was junk so that's what came out her pores.
You know the black dude got
Fired for threatening him, trust me I feel this so much. I got into it with one of my coworkers for talking to me crazy, disrespecting me, just like this. I reacted the same. Definitely was the wrong way to go. Hold your composure, these people wanna fuck with a real man constantly. But itâs up to us to be composed and respectful. Canât step the their level ..
âWatch how you talk to meâ little buttercup got his feelings hurt
Spoken like a true passive aggressive cop calling bitch đŻ
Buttercup was about to beat his ass
No my friend watch how you talk to people and treat everyone with respect, its the butter cup who run their mouths, iv seen to many things and I myself know better, its the butter cups who don't know better that will eventually get them selves into something that they might not be able to walk away from at some point
@@Geronimoosceolamaccabeas "you gotta talk to me a certain way". That's what he said, correct? Nobody deserves to be talked to any certain way. It's basic respect. It Sounds like those woke people that want to be called they/them. Fuck that.
@@pimptheuniverse Resorting to violence like some simple minded teenager. Sad. Buttercup bout to catch a charge
I've trained operators for couple years as a fill in, never once have I yelled, berate, called names or acted violent. It's better to treat a person with respect and understanding while moving forward with training. There's times where I was concerned with their progression, but with humble persistence I never once had issues.
No trainer is going to talk to me crazy.
A man with no patience complaining about a man with no patience... Neither should be driving a tractor trailer if that small a thing sets them off to that extent...
Trainers forget that they were trainees once and they forget the pressure that they have as beginners.
LMFAO! How could they forget? Most of them only have a few years experience themselves, before they become " trainers " !
He made a good point, "not everyone is a good teacher". You could be a good driver but that doesn't make you a good teacher. This is what I told my trainer when he started giving the same attitude. As a former teacher I know that all these trainers, before getting into this, they have to be trained as teachers.
Totally agree, I'm not a truck driver, I'm a welder, but I think what you said applies to every job. I got lucky having 2 cool trainers but I saw a lot of shitty ones that lost their heads the moment the trainee didn't do *exactly* what they were told even though they were "taught" once. I loved my teachers cause they explained why things were done the way they were done instead of just telling me to do things a certain way.
@@gamerGUY3013 see this is the thing, a trainer assumes you know stuff and expects you to do it. They don't realize that trainees need to be constantly reminded of the same things you already taught them again and again. That is the difference between a teacher and a trainer.
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It's not alright to snap on someone cause you don't understand as a trainee and you're mad at yourself then threaten violence. I would've opened his door for him and dragged him out when he was trying to go at it. Pussy Punk is all this is.
Not everyone is a good pupil.
My trainer and me get along splendidly. He even took me to buffet at the end. He was an amazing trainer.
I donât care what caused the argument. Threatening with violence cause you donât like to be talked to like that you need anger management classes.
Exactly. Threatening bodily harm because your ego is hurt is dumb af
Maaaan I feel for some of the guys that have to learn to drive this way. My dad let me learn to drive on my on. Taken his truck to the car wash when I was 16 years old. I am 63 now. The car wash was 3 miles down the road. That's how I lean to drive. I taught myself everything. How to back to the right alley dock and shift gears. My dad truck was 15 speed. Friahtliner. I drive a 18 speed peterbilt and I love it. Got over 200,000 miles on it. My dad gave me the knowledge on how to take care of a truck. RIP DAD LOVE YA!!!!
You had a great father who taught you instead of forced you.
Honestly you donât need someone in the truck with you to learn. Just get tips and feedback on the phone or in person when youâre done driving. Itâs not that hard to be honest. Itâs just an adjustment period.
Your dad is a good man , but mine is a piece of shit .
Good bless
Wow great story this dude is in love with himself
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Yeah that does sound like a better way
This reminds me of when I was on the job training. My trainer actually blamed me for everything, literally. He hit a bridge while driving, it was my fault. He missed an exit, it was my fault. After 2 weeks of being on the truck with him, I called dispatch and told them that one of 3 things was going to happen:
1)Put me with another trainer
2)Put me in my own truck
3)I'm quitting and looking for another job.
They chose option #2. I didn't argue with the guy, I just put up with it because I was there for a job, not to please that butthead. But after 2 weeks of his bull, I had enough.
How does an unaccountable little cry aby get a job that is based entirely on being responsible. Way I look it at regardless who behind wheel anything that happens is ultimately my responsiblity.
A a ron shut the fuck up, go back to elementary school so you can learn the proper way to form a coherent sentence. Dumb bitch
He should have lost his license
He should have called the police on the driver
i cant even watch this entire video because im instantly having flashbacks to not only learning to drive with my mom, the screaming at someone operating a vehicle is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. then brought to my last job, being spoken to like a child when im a 50 year old woman drove me to put my manager in check, and remind her, im a grown ass woman and if you EVER yell at me again, you will get a grown persons response from me, via an attorney or the labor board. said manager was reported with video and audio to corporate and removed from the jobsite. im a reasonable person, and when receiving instruction, i am capable of retaining the info and i will not be treated like a teenager because it makes the other person feel superior to me. i have lived an entire life, i dont need to be browbeat about how to bag icecubes.
Bruh my mama acts a whole ass fool when she's in the car with me. I'm 33 now so I can understand if I was still a teen. However one day I was driving her to the Dr and their was a car that looked like it was about to run a stop sign ( I saw it as it's happening) she screams really loud and grabs the steering wheel, I instantly smacked her hand away. I had to pull over immediately. I said "Ma, idk what your problem is but we're in a moving vehicle, please can you stop yelling at every little thing that's going on and don't ever grab my steering wheel again while I'm driving!".
@@akeem2752 Dawg momma canât ride no more đ
Ah yes a true grown up reporting ppl.
@@Sora-o was just about to say the most adult way to handle things throw a fit that someones yelling at you lmao
Toads always trying to pick fights on weaker people. I would slap[ the BLM right out of him in a heartbeat.
Both guys are at fault for escalating a situation, that couldâve been avoided in the first place. Would like to hear Daveâs side of the story. All we are are hearing is a social mediaâs âINFLUENCERSâ side of the story. Bottom line is, just like the trainee stated, we need to respect each other.
Man fuck Dave. Dave bringing home problems to the truck and most definitely wanted too take it out on the rookie
No the trainer is at fault every one can't train that black guy is about to smush that racist
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Idk how treating one with respect, can compare to this situation. When a person with a podcast, puts a trainer on Blast. No matter what is being trained..., The person with podcast , contradictory video...asking to treat one another with respect..
PS: why would Alex really post this, and ask for comments.. When both him and the Podcaster are basically, telling one sided story..
Than ask for commentary, and claim to post this , " Only for PSA " .... unusual and very unusual PSA.. Useless in my opinion, almost like they are just trying to start with building a debate and draw people that do not agree đ€
Respecting each other out here, does not start with videos and podcasts that put people on Blast , than ask viewers to watch and post all their thoughts..
Way to promote respect Alex..
Next time maybe..
There is a video. The trainer instigated the confrontation. You can listen to the driver ask the question "Is this how we are going to start this morning"?? He was calm. The worthless, garbage "trainer" continued the disrespect and verbal insults. WTF? I dont know many men that would sit there and let some pansy insult them and disrespect them over some bullshit.
No respect for his elders,, trying to teach him a dangerous skill without killing someone. This is all I got from this video. This is pretty shameful you threaten to beat the man because heâs trying to teach you? Thatâs not a man thatâs a child
It's all in how you talk to people, if the trainer would be respectful when giving instructions there probably never would be an issue,you do need to listen to the instructor,but don't talk down like your speaking to a child,things will go south quickly.
My trainer was a psychopath... Like he would have actually killed me if I tried to talk back to him so when he would be screaming at cars when we were stuck in traffic or talking about how much he hated people I would just be like yeah me too man lol.
Sometimes you got to know how to work around a bad situation.
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After being out here for 5 years Iâm starting to turn into one of those people đą
Damn man! How long were you stuck with him?
@@BabylonGateLA It was for only for two weeks and the guy wasn't so bad as long as you're on his good side.
That's why I paid cash for my license in school. Ain't no way I was training with anybody
Iâm considering a that, do you think you a equally equipped that way or is having a trainer better for experience purposes?
This isn't CDL school, this is job training. Most companies (especially OTR or regional) will make you drive with someone for 4-6 weeks before issuing you your own truck.
I would never want to be stuck in a truck with someone I don't know. That's what's kept me from doing this for a living.
"I'm a guy from Detroit, there's a certain way you gotta talk to me" . That quote says it all. I'm not defending the trainer or advocating for other people to walk on you But if you can't leave your ego at the house when you get one of these trucks you're not gonna make it in this industry. What are you gonna do when you encounter a snobby shipping clerk or a broker with an attitude. You don't have the option to deny a load when you're working for a Mega fleet.
Youre looking way too deep into pal lol. I wouldnt let someone talk to me like that either. Its called respect and if youre a man, you should never let anyone talk to you like that. He took it a little far but still
You sound like you want a reason to be mad at him. You sound like a sucker.
He didn't deny sht . Tf are you talking about the dude literally honed in on one thing which was respect .. you're basically talking about work ethics. I can tell you're white
Sounds like slavery kind of like shut up and dribble
I'm from Detroit as well, We're very big on respect. I'm a female leaving Corporate America and getting into trucking. This is one major concern for me. I'm a quiet person buy I have a low tolerance for ineffective communication.
Trainers think they can disrespect people
Often, this man stood his ground, good on him.
As a trainee, your pride doesnât mean shit. How old you are. Where youâve been. What youâve done. Nothing.
New job. New trade (CDL/trucking).
LISTEN. Donât talk. Just shut up and listen.
Heâs (white dude) been working (training) and driving longer than your âcalmâ demeanor.
You probably sucked at driving. And you like hearing yourself talk.
You didnât like him repeating himself or constantly correcting you, so you mouthed off and he corrected you back (you didnât think heâd snap back because heâs an âinstructorâ or âtraineeâ) Then you lost more cool because your balls arenât as big as you had thought.
Stop talking about respect if you arenât prepared to show it when you show up.
The road is a tough one. Thick skin required. No crying or snitching allowed. Safety first.
Move over for those trucks on the shoulders, please! Many thanks!
âNut up or shut up.â
I know it's childish. But if another man disrespects me like that, he's at least getting smacked. I've got my faults.
Then you shouldn't be behind the wheel of a semi if you can't control your emotions. Even children lash pit but what makes a man is his ability to control his emotions.
There are some in the workforce who interpret ANY imperative statement as "Disrespect".
Asking anyone to do something they do not want to do is "ignorant" and "disrespect".
They see/hear "disrespect" everywhere.
Trainee obviously thinks him being from Detroit thinks he can talk to an old man about beating him up. Trainer should of told him to pull over and left him on the highway
We different in Detroit! We ainât going to put up with being disrespected!
Yet he can disrespect the the trainee. I would sue him if he did that. From what I know thatâs illegal
I was a trainer with covenant and with CRST and I can let you know the fact is,no two students are alike. It can be very difficult to know for sure whether or not you're effectively communicating with some people. Had a female student one time she wouldn't say boo to me. Because of that I had no idea what the hell she was thinking. Also had a Haitian guy that was in the rap game in Miami as a student when working for CRST. This guy was about as hard-headed as you could probably get. It took a while but I got through to him that when you're out on the road it's all about the load. Heck that's the one that he probably could have used in a rap if he wanted to
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@@thefreestylefrEaK Well, the rap dude did go down Hazelton hill at 80 mph while writing lyrics to a beat.......
We had a talk about that for sure.
Of course, I could have just talked to management about getting him off the truck......
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Jus keep in mind when u sign up to train, there's no telling who u are training. When u are a trainer, u took on a responsibility that the person u training may learn quickly or slowly or drive decent or terrible, have a good attitude or a bad attitude. Wit that being said, u signed up for all that and some so u have to be the one that's transparent and keep your cool about decisions and situations. A calm and understanding trainer will make a better learning process for a student driver, cause fusing or cusing jus gonna hardened the situation and make worse of it and me personally wouldn't want a student driver who's already discussed that he or she thinking about being gone from love ones and having issues with me as a trainer sit on their mind and clearly not learning now because of a failed communication driving me around and not having their mind on driving at this point! Bottom line, training isn't gonna b easy half the time so if u don't have patience for it jus don't train!
@@therealunknown123. yep,and the two cases I cited were just particularly difficult. One of my students,a black lady, ended up becoming an owner-operator.
I have also been a trainer, had one of my students (who had a criminal background, former drug user, spent time in jail) trying to get a new lease on life talk crazy to me. I pulled over in Colorado, allowed him to vent and make whatever phones calls were needed, from there instructed him to go to the bunk for the duration of the ride into Salt Lake City, Utah where he asked to be dropped off down the street from our terminal at a small truck stop. Have never seen him again but heard he was able to pick back up on his training with another mentor. I will not be disrespected in my own truck (I am an O/O and mentor). I also have a very professional edge to me as a retired U.S. Army Veteran. I am glad to learn that based on the performance review of him that I turned in, that was handed over to another trainer, that he was able to pick back up and complete his driving evaluation 12 days later. Respect goes both ways however....turning into a thug and becoming violent has no place in this industry......it is hard enough as it is. I would have called the police first, then the company....and had this gentleman removed.