DEPRECATED: Steam Deck: Components of Non-Steam Games and How To Properly Remove Them Completely
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- čas přidán 6. 01. 2023
- NOTE: AS OF JUNE 2023, STEAM NOW "CLEANS UP AFTER YOU". THIS MEANS IT WILL NUKE THE COMPATDATA FOLDER AND THE SHADERCACHE FOLDER FOR YOU. THERE IS STILL USEFUL INFORMATION IN THIS VIDEO SO IT WILL STAY UP.
There seems to be some confusion about non-steam games, orphaned files and folders and how the dang OTHER storage gets so full so fast.
We're going to go over all the components that make up a non-steam game install - then we'll show you how to clean up after yourself to maximize your free space when removing these tricky installs.
If you've been wondering why your uninstalls aren't freeing up space? This video is for you.
DISCLAIMER: This video is intended to be introductory and will not cover every possible contingency or situation regarding Steam vs Non-Steam games. As always, deleting anything from your Deck can carry some risk which is the burden of the user. This channel is not responsible for any lost data on your part - always make backups of content before you delete anything if you're uncomfortable with what you're doing.
If you don't have protontricks installed, do so from the Discover store app.
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I have been waiting for a video like this! Very helpful and, as always, crystal clear!
Very concise way of explaining things you have.
I wish you could like a video multiple times! This was was a fantastic explanation!
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much! As a lifetime console gamer, this is a life saver.
Great Tutorial. Well explained.
Thank you so much, you’re steam deck Jesus. Hope you have a nice Christmas 🎅
Great video! Thank You!!!
What about nonsteam games installed through other launcher? Aren't the games that I have for example on epic, installed in the same id folder in the compatdata? Because then I can't just delete the whole folder because it contains other installed games and the launcher that I'd like to retain in order to not have reinstall it with every game I have there.
You should check out my third party launcher videos such as the GOG two parter. I discuss how to handle this.
@1:05 what app is that, need one like that to monitor storage size. nice tuts as always.
Disk Usage Analyzer
This may be a dumb question. How do I know the Steam ID for non steam games? There are a lot of folders so how do I know which is which?
I show you exactly in the video how to determine that. :)
One thing that ins't clear to me is : let's say I install a Gog game from its off line installer (Setup.exe) as a non Steam Game. Will it then create 2 Steam random ID's and associated folders ? (the Installer and the Game itself?)
And follow up question can I safely delete the installer folders eventhough I want to actively play the game? like if the installer installed some dependencies (like old Direct X lets say) how can those be accessed by the Game ? (are they located in the Games folders, or in the Installer folders ?)
Sorry for the messy question I realize its messy in my head : )
and thanks for the tuto it was useful
GOG games do not require a launcher at all. That's the beauty of it. I show this with Lego Pirates of the Carribean in another video. Once you have installed the "offline installer", you can remove those installation files. They are no longer required. If there are "REDIST" folders containing redistributables, you'll need to install them yourself. Then you can remove them. You really should watch the Lego Pirates video: czcams.com/video/_MlHNF-ueXg/video.html
very helpful thank you!
How would I completely remove Heroic Games Launcher from my Deck? Thanks for any help.
Dang almost a year no reply
what is the program you were using in the beginning for storage management?
Disk Usage Analyzer?
@@Darkuni yes thank ye
Shane would you ever consider a Retro style Steam Deck livestream with audience? IE A mashup of what you used to do in Retrogaming and Passenger Seat but with this new audience and topics live? :) If not ALL good just miss your opinions on all things retro and Steam Deck is such a brilliant retro experience bridge...
Great video by the way!
I could consider a live stream retro emulation show..
So now, if I remove a non-steam game from steam, Proton will delete the compatdata and shadercache folders? I think I may still see these folders in games I removed from Steam. Can you clarify if that's correct?
Only if they were installed AFTER the feature was added. If you have "old stuff" from before? It may not remove that. But anything you install NOW? Gets fully nuked. I've seen one or two one-off games that leave a little something in the compatdata folder (but it was tiny) - but so far it has proven quite reliable.
@@Darkuni Yea I literally just installed stuff this week on the new OLED but it looks like Proton/Steam doesn't nuke them after "removing non-steam game from library"; I still had to use Protontricks to find the shadercache and compdata folders and nuke those manually, that's why I'm not sure if what I'm doing seems right...
How to figure out the ID using the Steam entery? I cant even browse local files.
ProtonTricks. Link in the description.
hi is there any tutorial on how to get proton trick please?
Not sure it warrants a full tutorial... You install tricks from the Discover store and run it. That's about it...
Thanks for this video! Was able to clear 7gb of usable space lol!
What percent of 48 is 7? hehehe
My proton tricks does not show all non steam gamws on it, you know what can be?
What is an example of something missing?
How do you identify the ID of a non-steam game in order to clean its shader caches tho?
It is in the video ... 6:12
@@Darkuni Oh maybe i missed that, ty so much, amazing video btw!🔥
Also, if I already deleted GoG games, could I just reinstall them so I can delete the proper way? Or would that just add more things to try and delete
@@josephhall7317 all depends on the methodology you used to install. Are you using my centralized storage method?
@@Darkuni I honestly just typed in CZcams " how to get GoG on steam deck " it took me to github I believe it's called and I went from there, I don't know the first thing about PC, steam deck is my first one
someone should create a cleaner plugin to have this easier.
update: saw your shader cache killer video. awesome discovery man. thanks!
You got my vote. But if you're not careful? Those tools will result in loss.
How to unisntall vcredist??
It will go away when the proton prefix is nuked.
I used emu deck and now I have like 1000 non steam games I want uninstalled I trashed the games but they still show up in game mode as non steam game how do I delete them all
I don't use Steam Rom Manager for this very reason. I'm not sure how to remove them outside of deleting them one at a time. It wasn't EmuDeck that did it - it was Steam Rom Manager. :(
@@Darkuni wow quick response I figured it out you use Ctrl and select the top game in steam the go to the bottom and it selects all of them to delete
@@joshwelker423 You do that inside of Steam?
@@Darkuni yes
I updated to 3.5.5 and I cannot play any non steam games, emulators, or cloud services. They won't launch. Steam games work great. Do you have a video to fix this? Ty.
My guess is your card is now "read only". I had the same issue. Filesystem change that affects some people. I'll need more data to know for sure. But start here: www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/16jt5to/upgrading_to_35_preview_channel_could_cause_your/
@Darkuni The Non steam stuff is in the internal drive. So here is why I'm confused....again...it's non steam stuff only, emulators, xbplay, cloud services, etc. It doesnt work in gaming mode, it will work in desktop mode, if I hit big picture mode on desktop mode, non steam games again do not work. I have to restart and enter desktop mode and not hit big picture mode for non steam stuff to work. Steam games work no matter what. Pretty weird, I can't find a solution and I don't want to format my drive.
@@bigvic71C That's bizarre. Any sort of error messages or anything?
@Darkuni weird, non steam games don't work in gaming mode but work in desktop mode, when I go to big picture mode in desktop mode, non steam games no longer work. I have to restart and go back to desktop mode non big picture to play the non steam game.
@@Darkunino error messages either.
This was great I had a game that I installed that had 5gb of my storage space token up in comparability (tried downloading the ocarina of time remake made in unreal engine. 4-5 and it simply didn’t work and took up a large amount of diskspace
Thanks! Sounds like there needs to be a tool that does this for you
Shader cache killer will help. But it's still a manual process.
Yeah, clean up after yourself.
This didnt help me delete the division 2 at all. It confused me even more
Maybe stick to Steam only games? Non steam stuff can get convoluted...
@MonroeWorld That's the plan. I got lucky and found what I needed to delete but unless I got someone next to me I'm going to stay with steam titles for now. I was so lost I watched to like 4 times
@@illicitburn9386 This is indeed the Good Valve Intended(tm). While we are not constrained to the ugly walled garden so many other consoles are? With great power comes greater responsibility. Some people welcome that ... some people do not. Nothing wrong with that. And I salute you for being able to recognize this fact.
This video is only partially helpful. I do not understand why you would make a tutorial type video without actually showing how to do it what you want to show/teach.
Do not get me wrong, some of the info was useful but I really expected you to show maybe 2 games you had pre-installed that were non-steam and show us where to go and how to properly clean them from the deck.
I'm a visual learner and retain information quicker when seeing where I need to go and what to do.. But unfortunately you didn't actually go step-by-step through the process of actually remove a game properly.. missed opportunity..
Thanks though for some of the new bits of information..
Question:
Do you know of a youtuber that explain things in detail? What things mean, what they do, why you use certain things/tools/software etc.?
These type of subjects can be new, daunting and confusing for some people.. I myself never used Linux and are used to the windows environment and most youtubers/tutorials explain things with the thought that people watching it know what they know. A lot of people making tutorials fall in that trap, they forget that these things can be completely new and that some people can not follow a long because they do not have the same knowledge as the one teaching.
I want to learn.. I want to know how to get games working both inside and outside the steam environment. I want to learn how to clean up my files.. How to mod game that can be modded (even outside of steam with nexus for example), how to start emulating and to do other things on linux/steam deck like recording and content creation etc. but this entire linux environment is so new and different then windows it takes time to learn it.. and I'm not someone who *can* go through written guides and tutorial databases to learn something (my mind will not focus on the new material), I need visual learning(the I only need to see things once to remember) but then I get into the world where it's hard to find people that actually teach things step by step, from the beginning and explaining why they do things they do..
This video does assume some level of knowledge on non-steam games and the basic components. It was targeted to those that wonder why they remove a non-steam game from the Deck and ZERO free space is returned. They already have the basics of CompatData, ShaderCache - but don't realize what Steam does and does not do. I have so many videos covering the install of non-steam games, dealing with these two folders, etc. I can't go back to each subject for each and every video and cover "Proton 101" again and again. What I COULD do is offer some "pre-requisites" in the description that say "Recommended watches before this video". In this case, I would have offered up two "OTHER cleanup" videos and Proton 101. That might have helped out.