Megaton already has their own water purification system anyway. Big Town would need it more than them, especially if Megaton already recieved their shipment first.
There's a quest where you learn that a small group of Church of Atom worshipers living in the cellar of a ruined house in Springvalle is hijacking or intercepting the Aqua Pura shipments that are headed to Megaton.
What are you trying to say? The Brotherhood literally turned the capital wasteland into a country when they "got tired of babysitting water shipments." Look up Knight Bota's message to Initiate Arlen's parent.
@@thomasebert5289Ah yes, because a group of people who have absolute control and a complete power imbalance in their favor, they'd never be tempted to abuse that position now would they? Nah of course not, not with good ole Elder Lyons in charge.
@@transistorchip3132 In fallout 3 the BOS was told not to help the locals but elder lyons disobeys the brotherhood but in fallout 4 elder lyons is dead and his daughter I think dies too and elder maxon he brings back the outcasts and all (maxon is a kid in fallout 3)
However, they quite accurately showed the consequences of handing out free water. I remember there was a group there (led by Ghoul) who bought this clean water, then threw it away and sold dirty water to people in the same bottles. They quite accurately showed that certain features of humanity, such as greed and selfishness, cannot be eradicated.
@sumomanify yes but it is a scripted to happen the moment you start your save. 3 they put in a bunch of none grarenteed encounters and random events that could pop up. Like random traders, faction battles, random creature fights, interactions between raids and brotherhood hood do not always start hostile till the raids try stealing the water
The randomness of 3 made it feel less empty than New Vegas. I've tried for over 10 years to like nv more bc the mods are so much better and I cant @@alexkole8096
I suggest spending more time on foot and less time fast traveling if you play again. I’ve seen a number of random encounters I don’t recall from previous playthroughs just goofing around and walking to random locations.
Bro is in serious denial 🤣 The enclave just wanted to tax water with floride and low levels of anti-mutagens in it They probably would have started building reactors with the help of the BoS if they would work together. Fo4 is getting a rewrite one day
Did they really expect to win against a bunch of guys in power armour whilst using simple low calibre weapons, the brotherhood would still win with one guy using his fists against the wastelanders.
The answer was always to commercialize it. Tragedy of the commons and all that. The brotherhood should charge traders to draw from the tidal basin or just sell the refill themselves. This will fund the brotherhood and the purifier. Prices will signal scarcity meaning more and more will be supplied to distant areas. This will also provide jobs for the established caravan guards and insurance agencies.
The idea of Project Purity is so stupid when you consider the fact that you can easily build water purifiers for settlements in Fallout 4. Just plop a purifier at every town in D.C. instead of dealing with the logistics of delivering water from the Jefferson Memorial.
not rlly. project purity's goal is to make all the water in the capital wasteland not radiated. It kinda like just started tho in the game so obv u dont see any results that fast.
Well think about it for a sec. Fallout 4 takes place years after 3 so Project Purity must be the reason why you can even do that in settlements with ease which honestly is way more effective that making all the water purified at once.
@@Coolinjay04 Idea is that purity is a giant, constant, purifier, over time has water gets filtered out all water will become safe to drink. The sea will seep in and purity will clean it, after 250-500 years of constant cleaning most water and rivers will be safe to drink around the world. It short of the beacon of hope for all of humanity, most people won't be alive to truly realize it, bottle water for DC is just a bonus. Rain water would even be safe.
Writing stupid side characters isn't bad writing They thought the bos wouldn't shoot, you think the bos would never get in conflicts with non pa user idiots who think they wouldnt be shot for robbing them?
@RossMalagarie lol it's not bad writes it intimating life there are dumb people in this world lol 😆 and in fallout there is alot lol. It shows how desperate everyone is
The enclave wanted to start a public water works with controlled levels of FEV anti-mutagen and centrally ditribute it in order to establish statehood, this is legitimate and something libertarians can agree with. This is why I support the enclave over the brotherhood. BTW, the brotherhood established a feudal autocracy but fail to protect anyone, whereas the enclave at the very least would have governed as a competent millitary junta. All of their genocidal orders seem to come from the president and desensitized officers but are carried out by terrified soldiers. That could have been a great plot point to discuss the holocaust and books associated with the men who carried out the massacres. Autumn probably needs a rewrite but if anything he had a dossier on dad and considered him a supporter of the BoS, which is a terrorist organization, and he was nationalizing the purifier to prevent their rule because he so believed in saving America from them. Remember the steel plague, in the first game they have the potential to cause a 1000 year dark age. I think the way to reconcile this with the fourth game is to say the brotherhood could also become a major development house under burgening American rule, and that they were leased parts and technology to build the pridwin, idk, it's a long shot.
excpet thats not how it plays out, also its very clear that the enclave troops enjoy handing out pain, its more of a "better them than us" situation, the enclave troops dont really care none of them are terrified, they like their power and constantly abuse it, also they ALL share the sentiment of hatred towards mutants, while super mutents are a threat undoubtedly, ghouls? HUMANS? wow lemme just slide that under the rug approach of yours, the enclave sucks, they care more about the mass elimination of whatever the fuck they want and will never rebuild as they dont even have schematics for something of the sort, no farming, no breeding, no rebuilding only killing? yeah sounds like what happens at the death of an empire, not at the beggining, the enclave was doomed to fail from the moment they stepped outta vault 0
"Oops that got out of hand quick... they shot first right?"
History is written by the victors 📝
in his defense, yeah, they did. still a funny line
*bodycam off*
Someone clearly watched Star Wars 😂
American Cops
They did NOT just kill my man Stockholm 😅
I mean if we are being honest Stockholm shouldn’t have gotten involved
Megaton already has their own water purification system anyway. Big Town would need it more than them, especially if Megaton already recieved their shipment first.
someone was taking it I remember
There's a quest where you learn that a small group of Church of Atom worshipers living in the cellar of a ruined house in Springvalle is hijacking or intercepting the Aqua Pura shipments that are headed to Megaton.
@@GBRyker61 That's interesting! I had forgotten about this. I love alot of the cool details Broken Steel adds to the wasteland.
The children of atom were taking it and irradiating it for their own sick/religious purposes
This also goes well with the lore in FO4. The Brotherhood got tired of babysitting water shipments.
doesnt exactly fit with Elder lyons brotherhood in FO3 though lol
What are you trying to say? The Brotherhood literally turned the capital wasteland into a country when they "got tired of babysitting water shipments." Look up Knight Bota's message to Initiate Arlen's parent.
@@thomasebert5289Ah yes, because a group of people who have absolute control and a complete power imbalance in their favor, they'd never be tempted to abuse that position now would they? Nah of course not, not with good ole Elder Lyons in charge.
@@transistorchip3132 In fallout 3 the BOS was told not to help the locals but elder lyons disobeys the brotherhood but in fallout 4 elder lyons is dead and his daughter I think dies too and elder maxon he brings back the outcasts and all (maxon is a kid in fallout 3)
Makes sense. Lyons was the one pushing for the protection of the water.
The fact he instantly went to getting the uniform and joining the brotherhood😂
The brahmin was not taking any shit today
So funny how the settler strolls up and hesitates for a second before shooting the poor brahmin for no reason 😂😂😂
Well strategically it'd make it harder for the brotherhood to be able to move it even if those guys got killed in the process
Yes, trooper. Not only did they shoot first, they dude shot the fucking water buffalo creature first lol
Never saw Stockholm get wasted before.
Settler was like fuck it the brahmin gets it first
However, they quite accurately showed the consequences of handing out free water. I remember there was a group there
(led by Ghoul) who bought this clean water, then threw it away and sold dirty water to people in the same bottles.
They quite accurately showed that certain features of humanity, such as greed and selfishness, cannot be eradicated.
This stuff is what people seem to forget or not realize doesn't exist in nv. Allot less random encounters
???? You meet plenty of random NPC's in nv
@sumomanify yes but it is a scripted to happen the moment you start your save. 3 they put in a bunch of none grarenteed encounters and random events that could pop up. Like random traders, faction battles, random creature fights, interactions between raids and brotherhood hood do not always start hostile till the raids try stealing the water
The randomness of 3 made it feel less empty than New Vegas. I've tried for over 10 years to like nv more bc the mods are so much better and I cant @@alexkole8096
Bro, my Mister Handy provides a limitless supply of purified water on top of the water purifier they had before I got there. Stingy ahh mf
I never encountered this type of events on my play through of Fallout 3, maan I need to replay this game soon.
I suggest spending more time on foot and less time fast traveling if you play again. I’ve seen a number of random encounters I don’t recall from previous playthroughs just goofing around and walking to random locations.
They shot first right? 😂
Bro tried to pull a “he had a gun”
BoS just recreated the mf enclave, in the first game they could start a 1000 year dark age with feudal autocracy
@@no-barkthechosenone2436 He did have a gun.
This is the real BOS following their orders and not bowing down to settlers. A morally gray faction
Bro literally said "hey" to the Brahmin 😂.
Prayers from Rivet City bruh ❤
in lore, the BoS scraped Rivet City for its nuclear power plant so I'm pretty sure Megaton should be praying for you
@@TylerB17 where is this in the lore?
@@Gamester121 on a terminal in the prydwin
@@TylerB17 You mean the one that says they used an aircraft carrier reactor for the Prydwen? What does that have to do with Rivet City?
Bro is in serious denial 🤣
The enclave just wanted to tax water with floride and low levels of anti-mutagens in it
They probably would have started building reactors with the help of the BoS if they would work together.
Fo4 is getting a rewrite one day
What did Stockholm do????
Took the wrong side
Did they really expect to win against a bunch of guys in power armour whilst using simple low calibre weapons, the brotherhood would still win with one guy using his fists against the wastelanders.
Why did that sound like something you'd hear in downtown Chicago or Philly? With no video to worry about showing anyone? I mean, come on now.
Ad Victoriam
What the hell just happened is this even scripted or they just started blasting just to vent out frustration.
@StripesOfValorPR oh I actually gave the scrap to the ghouls welp that's my mistake then.
@StripesOfValorPR what's funny is that I actually found Sydney's Dad in the hotel while exploring it sounds like a gun deal gone wrong situation.
imagine being stupid to take something you really DONT need over a settlment that actually needs it.
The answer was always to commercialize it. Tragedy of the commons and all that. The brotherhood should charge traders to draw from the tidal basin or just sell the refill themselves. This will fund the brotherhood and the purifier. Prices will signal scarcity meaning more and more will be supplied to distant areas. This will also provide jobs for the established caravan guards and insurance agencies.
The idea of Project Purity is so stupid when you consider the fact that you can easily build water purifiers for settlements in Fallout 4. Just plop a purifier at every town in D.C. instead of dealing with the logistics of delivering water from the Jefferson Memorial.
not rlly. project purity's goal is to make all the water in the capital wasteland not radiated. It kinda like just started tho in the game so obv u dont see any results that fast.
Well think about it for a sec. Fallout 4 takes place years after 3 so Project Purity must be the reason why you can even do that in settlements with ease which honestly is way more effective that making all the water purified at once.
@@Coolinjay04 Idea is that purity is a giant, constant, purifier, over time has water gets filtered out all water will become safe to drink. The sea will seep in and purity will clean it, after 250-500 years of constant cleaning most water and rivers will be safe to drink around the world.
It short of the beacon of hope for all of humanity, most people won't be alive to truly realize it, bottle water for DC is just a bonus. Rain water would even be safe.
@@Fourtytwo4242 what i said
I love how 3 guys think they can just take stuff from 2 guys in power armor. Yeah smart move. Thats what you call bad writing.
The Raiders in Fallout 1 and 2 that attack you when you get into an encounter while wearing Power Armor is bad writing too then right?
@@MrBoxen yep
Writing stupid side characters isn't bad writing
They thought the bos wouldn't shoot, you think the bos would never get in conflicts with non pa user idiots who think they wouldnt be shot for robbing them?
Or they attack cause they’re enemies and you need something to kill, you fucking nerds
@RossMalagarie lol it's not bad writes it intimating life there are dumb people in this world lol 😆 and in fallout there is alot lol. It shows how desperate everyone is
FO3 logic is so dumb
Typical BoS tyrants
Ah yes killing people who tried to rob you the definition of a tyrant
Sounds like someone wants more water boo hoo
Found the raider.
for killings caravan raiders?😂
Bro megaton already has a water purifier too. They’re just being greedy.
The enclave wanted to start a public water works with controlled levels of FEV anti-mutagen and centrally ditribute it in order to establish statehood, this is legitimate and something libertarians can agree with. This is why I support the enclave over the brotherhood. BTW, the brotherhood established a feudal autocracy but fail to protect anyone, whereas the enclave at the very least would have governed as a competent millitary junta. All of their genocidal orders seem to come from the president and desensitized officers but are carried out by terrified soldiers. That could have been a great plot point to discuss the holocaust and books associated with the men who carried out the massacres. Autumn probably needs a rewrite but if anything he had a dossier on dad and considered him a supporter of the BoS, which is a terrorist organization, and he was nationalizing the purifier to prevent their rule because he so believed in saving America from them. Remember the steel plague, in the first game they have the potential to cause a 1000 year dark age. I think the way to reconcile this with the fourth game is to say the brotherhood could also become a major development house under burgening American rule, and that they were leased parts and technology to build the pridwin, idk, it's a long shot.
The enclave are way more evil lol killing mutants which includes non Feral ghouls and even humans with slightly mutated dna isn't legitimate
excpet thats not how it plays out, also its very clear that the enclave troops enjoy handing out pain, its more of a "better them than us" situation, the enclave troops dont really care none of them are terrified, they like their power and constantly abuse it, also they ALL share the sentiment of hatred towards mutants, while super mutents are a threat undoubtedly, ghouls? HUMANS? wow lemme just slide that under the rug approach of yours, the enclave sucks, they care more about the mass elimination of whatever the fuck they want and will never rebuild as they dont even have schematics for something of the sort, no farming, no breeding, no rebuilding only killing? yeah sounds like what happens at the death of an empire, not at the beggining, the enclave was doomed to fail from the moment they stepped outta vault 0
you have the media literacy of a sweet potato