Bone Conduction Headphones For Motorbikes?
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2022
- Bone conduction headphones might just have a place in motorcycling as an alternative to Bluetooth Communicators or earbuds that block out the noise of the traffic.
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I prefer my headphones BONELESS. But this is quite interesting.
I don't like the way u said that
@@craigwhelan4314 Thank you lol
F*ck kind of headphones??
@@huhwut1245 BONELESS. I like my headphones like I like my pizzas.
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I rode for about 30 years with music or comms or the like and I was under the impression that I wouldn't be able to hear traffic etc. I was mistaken. I have found that it is possible to listen to music and still hear what's happening provided you set the levels sensibly. Note. I also wear ear plugs and can still hear both the music and the traffic without a problem.
I started about 12 years ago just with Bluetooth for the GPS and found that there wasn't a problem, so I started listening to music on long trips, again, there wasn't a problem. So now I listen to the radio on the bike. I think that, with everything in life, if you use common sense, _most_ things can be done safely and correctly.
Now that I've seen your video, I'll look into them and decide if they'll do the job for me.
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@@equilibriumx763 Train with toxic trash already departed. Go catch it
agreed! you are just swapping very loud wind noise, for music
Best mic for this scenario? Must be close to mouth it seems.
What if I'm an audiophile?
Then stop listening to music on a motorbike for starters...
This cracked me up :D
Like four years ago I worked at a factory that required earplugs and they let us wear these headphones I love them
It's nice to see some alternatives to com systems and regular earphones, especially on a well established channel!
I love the way you make these videos! Absolutely entertaining and information packed!
Interesting stuff here. Great quality video as always my man!
The Aftershokz are superb so long as the batteries don't give out, which mine did after a year therefore became useless. While they worked though, it was wonderful having a sound system that didn't require anything to be shoved into/ onto my ears and was waterproof. Mine were IP68, which meant I could shower, bathe, swim, kayak, run/ walk in rain and ride my motorcycle in all types of weather without fear of damaging them. One thing I can't stress enough though, the sound of the wind in your helmet WILL damage your ears without protection. If you like hearing aids, then by all means. If not, then use ear plugs.
Maybe my helmet is extra quite, but I haven't been bothered by the wind sound
@@judge831 I know plenty of motorcycle riders who have tinnitus and/ or hearing loss from not wearing ear protection while riding. Even if it's quiet for you, the wind creates a pressure differential that flexes your eardrums constantly. Trust me, NOT worth the risk.
Great advice!! Thanks.
THIS. IS. GENIUS.
Been looking for something to use instead of having to stick something on the outside of the helmet and earphones falling out my ears. I have a pair of the Shoks in my draw that i havent used in a while and never thought of using them for this purpose. Just tried them with my helmet on and its a revelation. 🎉
I have a different pair but similar and I have been using them for months. They are awesome. Thank you for letting me know of this other brand in case I lose mine.
I had the bonez aftershokz II and wore them at the Toyota plant w>the a hardhat and earplugs. Loved em. Sounded great.
I use Plugfones Basic connected directly to my phone or to a Bluetooth receiver. They block both road noise and I can play music at a lower volume. Very comfortable once you figure out the best depth to place them inside your ear. 🙂🙂🙂
I programmed a bone conductive watch-like mobile phone prototype in high school for an IT contest. To hear the call you had to press your index finger to your cheekbone and talk to your wrist. That was about 20 years ago. I thought that technology died.
Hey I saw you were on the hartbeespoort dam wall I live here love the videos and can't wait to start riding.
I use these (Open Run Pro) daily for business calls and music. I like them. I've not used them while riding yet, and I probably won't. Not for music anyway. But they come in handy if I get a call on the bike. I can pull over to a safe spot and take the call. The caller can hear my Harley or the wind noise, so it is essential to stop and switch the bike off. If I wear my Shoei full-face helmet, I remove these and use my Sena. But all in all, they are great. They don't hurt my ears like in the ear head phones do, and I sometimes forget they are on my head.
Thanks for that, I was looking for something just like that, I am gonna try it in my netx travel
I have a pair of these that i, like you, got for riding my road bike (bicycle). I also use them while shopping, working around the house and even pair them to my old laptop (which is plugged into the tv via hdmi - don't have a smart tv) so i can watch movies at night without waking my missus or my daughter up.
I'm getting back into riding soon and had been thinking about getting an intercom system. It occurred to me a few weeks back that using these might work, so i grabbed my old helmet and tried it out. It would be interesting to see what the audio is like when making a phone call (whether they can hear you or just hear the microphone rubbing against the padding). I'll probably use these to start with and then might upgrade to a proper system. I won't be riding with anyone so don't need the intercom aspect, just for bluetooth audio.
I ride with music sometimes, but I have Cardo Packtalk unit. You have to install small speakers in helmet, but you can also hear outside noise as well. Another benefit is that you can also make and receive phone calls while riding. Headphones or earbuds inside a helmet is a no go for me.
I saw a pair of these the other day and wondered how well they would work. My thoughts were they’d play music and not cancel outside noise. Thanks for the vid and your thoughts! I’m gonna give them a shot.
i'am getting one, stil can plugg in my earprotectors while riding but also call my friends. sounds like a good plan!
I use Shure in ear monitors with a custom built wiring harness that plugs into the back of my Cardo instead of the provided in helmet speakers. They seal the ear canal to block out wind/ambient noise which allows me to run the volume low enough to enjoy the music but still hear what's going on around me. To get around the issues with putting your helmet on over any kind of ear phone get a moisture wicking helmet liner/beanie. Not only will it help keep you cool but your helmet will slide on nice and easy right over your headphones. Helps when removing as well. All that being said, if you want to hear the nurse who's spoon feeding you bananas when you're in your 90's you should always be using something that seals your ear canal.
i had some se425, unfortunately mine were lost or stolen. Trying to explain to people that the sound quality at low volumes it far superior than any bluetooth headset is impossible. I loves them but can't justify spending that sort of money on them again, i have some fakes that are nearly as good but i bought the shure foam plugs. Being wired can be a pain but only an audiophile will appreciate them. Kudo's to you for respecting your hearing in the future
As I have both an intercom and the aftershokz I wont try them under a helmet. I really need buttons to control the audio and incoming calls as I try to leave my phone in the pocket as much as possible and not on my phonemount. But for daily "normal" use the aftershokz are perfect. the soundquality is good enough and they are so convinient that I happily sacrifice a bit of soundquality.
I bought them year ago and I'm finally able to listen to music while working in the factory using earplugs. Best earphones I've ever had. Not so good on the bicycle because traffic and wind can be loud too and to hear the music clearly you'd need to go very loud
I switched between different kinds of headphone and finally stopped with Bluetooth communicator. I found that button control on the communicator is a must so I don't have to use my phone to stop the music when I want to focus on the surroundings.
valid point, if only those damned intercoms costed few tens of dollars, instead of few hundreds :(
I find voice control better than buttons. Maybe it works with something like bixby
@@holo6883 I don’t like people hearing me asking Siri to lower my volume or switch song 💀
@@John-gi3es Just close your visor and shout as hard as you can :p
I'm definitely considering getting these. I've heard of these before and they're quite interesting.
I know an extra trick while putting these on! Pretty funny seeing you stick your fingers all in your helmet like I do all the time haha. I use these headphone all the time while I ride, it’s so nice for some quiet tunes and hear everything still. As you’re pulling your helmet down over your head using your fingers, take your thumbs to push up on sides of the headphones. Kind of like imagine your fingers and thumbs like you are biting an imaginary cheeseburger
I’ve owned a cheap pair of bone conduction. Now I have good pair of aftershock’s (the ones you got too in the video, don’t remember the model name). Great solution to listen to music. Obviously I’ve got a great pair of noise isolating headset and earphone too. Depends of situation to situation.
Now you made super curious about trying them with the motorcycle helmet
@Chaos Causes there are helmet conduction speakers now. installed like an intercom, it conducts sound on the helmet shell.
I have been using etymotics with dual flange tips...they offer roughly the same noise suppression as earplugs, so I can hear the ambient sounds granted I keep the volume at a lower level
Got some of those type of headphones going to try them on my speedmaster cool good advice.
wwhahahaahhahahaaa .... "my Harley vibrates already" ..... now I find this funny because I ride a Harley, and it vibrates already :P
Haha! My Harley vibrates. That was funny. Yep, that and mine's loud too! Interesting tech.
An alternative to this set-up for me was using an open ear earphones like the bose open ultra. It has a simillar experience in terms of hearing your surrounding and good sound quality overall. You dont have to worry about wires since they are completely wireless.
Great, have you also considered Sony Linkbuds ? ( the ones with hollow speakers )
I wear mine whenever I go out on my mountain bike, and road cycle, but haven't tried them on the motorbike yet. I guess no amount of music is as good as that crossplane R1 tune 😎
My Cardo Paktalk Slim is not situated right on my ears (I use an HJC Helmet with pre-done speaker placement) and I can't hear music very well over the revving of engine (Honda Shadow 1100, 1997) and so I'm wondering..
The most important question, the most relevant question, is... How do they sound with a Helmet on? Are they loud since they're going through bone or????
I have really narrow ear canals & find normal earbuds really painful to wear, especially under my bike helmet. Looking at these as an alternative, thank you!
I have a Cardo with custom moulded ear plugs with speakers built in. Cuts out wind noise and provide clear quality audio. I can control volume and music with Cardo unit. I find cycling with Open Move Aftershocks and find wind noise overpowers bone conduction.
Oddly enough I feel they work best under my helmet with ear plugs. I have the aftershocks aeropex and use the. Daily at work
how do they interact with reading/sunglasses?
I am riding with a Bluetooth earphones for a year now and i keep the vol at 50-60% where i can hear the traffic 20 30 meters ahead and behind me
I’m hoping to pick them up for one of the things being a motorcycle riding. In ear does not fit the bill for me
I wanted their first gen of these but was cash strapped. Was gifted ear buds and forgot about these. Now I want them and knowing the 8th gen would have improvements I avoid the "I had these and..." preconceptions.
I have several bone conduction ear phones and love them all. I just with I could find some that can connect to other riders like an intercom system.
Only solution I have found for that is making a group call through discord or similar platforms. That way you’re not limited to range between riders as long as you have cell connection.
ok this video was made so well
What a coincidence! I just came back from my 3rd ride on the bike and was wondering the exact same thing - if my Aftershokz could be used while biking as I had no luck getting airpods to fit under the lid. Will have to try this out soon!
It worked?
Does it have a mic? If so, how does it perform in the helmet on the go?
What is the speed the can hold on to?
Man headphones handle it to 50km/h but when you drive faster the wind noises and road are lots der then the music.
So would e nice to wich speed they are good for.
Have any of you used bone conduction headphones with a half or 3/4 helmet on a motorcycle? I have multiple helmets, full, modular, 3/4, and half helmets...just wondering how well they will work with an open style helmet?
I have a pair and find it useful making calls, have you tried making a call with the helmet on, and whether the person on the other end of the line can hear you okay whilst riding?
As long as the music is not at max you can still easily hear your surroundings. Earbuds that passively block out some (not all) of the road noises are safer for your hearing in the long run. Really hard to hear traffic noises when your deaf, protect your ears on your rides.
Safer than what?
Safety depends a lot on the music you are listening to. Humans are actually completely incapable of multi-tasking. Like at all, nobody can perform true multi-tasking. Nobody. What we do is serial tasking which is rapidly switching between tasks and decreases the attention we can give to all of them and makes us more prone to errors. Listening to music may not seem like a 'task' but it occupies the brain the same as one. Especially music with lyrics and very especially rap.
Have you ever tried the ones that are sunglasses
great for people without huge heads. My giant 3.5xl head stretches these to the max which doesn't play well with my helmet.
how's the mic tho? planning to use this as my action cam's mic
I love my shoks, I love them so much I own two of them and have had five total. But I have some problems with them, with and without a helmet on.
#1 The pressure points explode when your helmet is on for more then 1 hour.
#2 the charger cable is proprietary, but there are companies that sell extra cables
#3 if you drop them off your head sometimes the speaker inside can become loss and rattle
Other than that they are amazing headphones and make life way easier
Wish this would work for me but I find it allmost impossible to get them on correcty (had a pair already for running), and if they're not on right the hurt like hell! Also, taking them off is painful too. Might not help that I wear glasses.
What if we put it on with a half cut helmet,is it safe?i mean,will it drop?
I’ve tried apple earphones , cardio, and now these. I liked the apple ones but they fall with some of my helmets. These option worked great but I don’t like how they move or fall with most of my helmets either. While they gave me better sound because I wear earplugs all the time, having to catch them or removing my helmet to readjust them, I didn’t like. So, I ended up just getting cardio mounts for all my helmets even wnen the volume of music is not good because of the earplugs. The funny thing is that I still hear the traffic around me despite the plugs and music, contrary to what almost everyone says.
just curious , which roadbike and mtb do you have
I installed a large windscreen which is at chest level & use regular Bluetooth headset. The windscreen drastically reduces wind noise
Great review but…..a possibly game changing omission is the ability to deal with telephone business when riding. Even the cheapo (not Shokz) bone phones have microphones which work fine under a helmet. It’s a little sketchy but the multi function button (answers ringing phone) is located so a shove on the side of your helmet pushes it. Bonus non-Riding related plus…Bluetooth them to your television for the next Moto GP. Incredible.
Yeah, my first thought was "My Harley vibrates enough already"...
thanks for addressing that
Suprised you didn't slide them up behind the padding and had them come out the earphone speaker area's if your helmet has them.
Sounds very interesting. However. For the sake of references" could you make some comparison to other known (or popular) helmet head sets? I use different sets of Sena's and I am often desapointed by the low frequencies they produce.
Loved the Harley comment at the end!
Will they hurt if ur helmet is tight .
How is the volume? I have tried two different comms sets, and both work fine for music, but for podcasts and audiobooks I have the volume all the way up, but it's just loud enough to be annoying. It's like listening to an ASMR, except not being able to understand distinct words defeats the purpose
The Shokz Opencomm are pretty awesome for then bike paired with Google assistant.
I use it for work and on the bike with earplugs. Which make up for the low volume but is way more comfortable than earbuds.
I want to do phone calls etc. And you can get make calls hands free. It's not perfect but it does work.
Getting the helmet on and off is a pain.
Interesting....I wonder how this would work for people with a lot of hair. I work from my bike, so my question would be how effect the microphone would be with these under a helmet/at speed (yes, it is helpful for ME to be able to take/make calls while riding).
“Why are you running? What’s chasing you?”
I really must remember that one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have a set of these. I don't use them on the bike. I've got a packtalk for that. These are incredibly comfortable outside of a helmet though.
Plus the audio quality from a bluetooth intercom is usually compromised.
Mate, what sorta phone mount is that?
I use oppo encore as it has exposed buttons so that I wont have to fiddle with my phone while riding
What about phonecalls while using the helmet??
People can hear me clearly? Because the microphone is not so close to the mouth...
Thanks!!
yes these actually work pretty well like in jobs that don’t allow earphones or headphones these technically don’t go in your ear
Can I use them in space? (astronauts) 😁 Nice video! well done! 👍 thanks
How is about wearing glasses with these headphones?
Pro tip: use a balaclava to keep these headphones or boneless headphones on and easily slide the helmet over them.
i never really think about liking videos but this one needed a like for the mr bean reference
I wear hearing aids. Would this work for me?
i use them in construction and work wonders
Emm.. It not looks to comfortable for long trip. I think it's much better to use intercom, like Sena, Cardo or something cheaper. No need to search for "special helmet wearing". Just put it on, and go. Other thing is that You can ride and talk with Your friends if they are using any intercom via bluetooth.
It's strange maybe but I could not listen to music on my bike, in fact I don't even like to wear ear plugs. To me, hearing traffic, the engine, and even the wind is a vital part of riding. My main riding friend, on the other hand, always wears ear pods and listens to music constantly, which is highly annoying when we pull up and I say something to him about the route or something or we passed for a minute or more while he fannies about with wires and buttons and says, "what did you say?".
What I do think is a possible breakthrough are these units that make the helmet shell transfer music and or intercom to the rider. Does away with awkward earphones in one stroke.
I have a deep dark fear that, if I were to get a set like this, that a cheap Chinese battery might suddenly explode on the motorway, and I'd be zooming along at 80mph with the side of my head being cooked or have the shrapnel going into my skull!
I tend to stick to the headsets where the battery hangs down on a cord for this reason
I was convincing myself to buy those thing for a helmet, then I read this lol. Especially I was about to buy some cheap chinese bone conduction.
Please tell me I'm not right? I'd love this technology@@senpai_3067
how ever how do they fit under the helmet they dont
The galaxy buds live are very good for the task
Interesting, I already have some of these, never even considered using them on my motorbike, although I prefer not to have music while I ride, enough distractions to look out for.
Do you have a Bluetooth intercom? How does the audio quality compare to that, or come to normal headphones?
3:28 Easily number one reason IEMS are way better. You can get open back design, or whatever else they are calling them these days, that allow you to hear the outside world just fine. Provided you listen at reasonable levels.
The sound itself is different than of the normal headphones
ive been using a set of these sense 2018....
I wonder how long you could wear this squeezed under a helmet for before it becomes uncomfortable - like on a road trip.
Thought of buying these from SHOKZ , still donno if it is worth 129 bucks.
Time to approach them about a rider-centric model with remote controls.
I can't ride without my music but I use the correct stuff because I have a proper helmet come system
I use these everyday at work.
Nice..
I'd rather be aware of my surroundings. Safety first.
Well I put one TWS on my left ear and everything sinc in. It's okay too. Not totally safe though🌝🌚
4:30 You dont wear earplugs when riding? Prepare to be deaf before you turn 40.
for that reason alone i think well isolating iems are the way to go if one wants to listen to music as well. Albeit not a loud volumes.