The Norwegian Legion - Waffen-SS Volunteers from Norway during World War II
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- Norway during World War II had his own legion that fought for Germany. The Norwegian Legion (Den Norske Legion) was an army formation made up of Norwegian volunteers that was sent to the Eastern Front of World War II. Set up by Norway's collaborating fascist leader Vidkun Quisling and his party: the Nasjonal Samling the Norwegian Legion was sent to the Leningrad Front.
History Hustle presents: The Norwegian Legion - Waffen-SS Volunteers from Norway during World War II.
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- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) Norway (Sigurd Sørlie).
- Norwegian Waffen-SS Legion, 1941-43 [Men-at-arms] (Massimiliano Afiero).
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You should do the Danish Free Corps as that would be interesting as well. Keep up the good work!
Perhaps something for the future yes!
Iove your videos I am 🇧🇪 Belgian can we please get a Vlaamse SS (Langemark division) video AUB meneer dank U 😉👌🏾
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@@luxembourgishempire2826 Yes i agree, the danish SS fought until the end in the batlle of Berlin
My great grandfather was in the Legion, he was 17 in 1940.
Participated in the battle of *Narvik* against the Germans, then joined the Legion and served in the *SS* until 1945.
Surrendered in Hamburg together with his friends after a fighting retreat from the north of Berlin.
Spent two weeks in jail when he returned to Norway and then served 40 years in the Norwegian military.
Still all i hear in school is about the resistance fighters who lived in the forest for 5 years.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing this, Eva!
your great grandfather was a true hero! let no one tell you otherwise!
@@HistoryHustle Thank you for making content.
@@SiegoderWalhalla9B Thank you i loved him more than anything in my life, he died of old age surrounded by family in 2015. He teached me probably everything i know today.
You can't help admiring your grandaddy but he was a twat
Former members of the Norwegian legion were not popular in post war Norway. Some of them moved abroad, for example to Argentina.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
Don't ask for what happened to German war childs in Norway :'(
Most SS members moved to Argentina.
Traitors are normally not popular and those supporting the occupation and the terror betrayed their nation.
@@jansundvall2082 alle trengte ikke å ha et ekstremt ideologosk motiv. De fleste var unge menn i 20 års alderen, om ikke yngre. Man bør ikke dra alle under samme kam.
An often under appreciated fact of historical significance is that when Operation Barbarossa was launched the Axis forces under the command of the German OKW was the most diverse multi national alliance that has ever existed. Anglophone folk think the forces on D-Day were the most multi national allied force ever assembled however they are wrong, as on so many points. Bolshevism was opposed by far more countries in Central Europe in June 1941 than than Anglophones are led to believe.
Thanks for sharing.
I agree , I am Anglophone ( texophone some may say) Even as an under grad rarely were aspects of this and other historic events that did not affect our experience explored . I feel much richer that this medium has made other perspectives available. Plus languages restrict our view . Many anglophones tend to.be only Anglophones .
Good old Norway
Yes. I never talked about this country that often.
@@HistoryHustle i prefer Denmark and Sweden,and your tall beautiful people,Stefan
Hey! Who are you if not my favorite Hoi country to play?
The ss volunteers from Denmark and Sweden fought to the bitter end in the battle of Berlin
Luxembourgish Empire dude it’s a boring little country no cap Germany over all
This video deserves part 2. Why? Because you did not mention that another Norwegian SS unit existed after the Legion was disbanded- The 23rd SS Regiment Norge of 11th SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Division Nordland which fought to the bitter end of WW2. Yeah and 120+ Norwegians got what they were promissed because they fought on Finnish front in the 6th SS Moutain Division Nord.
I see. Thanks for sharing. Can't say a part 2 will be made any time soon though.
Please teacher Stefan! I'd like to see your take on it. Usually historians just focus on the resistance in Norway.
well doesnt the title read 'The Norwegian Legion'
@@brgahdfjadghdhd7585 And? It is same as in documentary about Quisling. They have just said that Norwegians were not so successful and the Legion was disbanded, end. No, they were as good as their other fellow Germanic volunteers and they served in S S after the Legion was disbanded to the end of WW2.
What about the 5th SS Wiking?
My Norwegian friend hated to be mistaken for Swedish. He said "Hitler was able to take Sweden with a phone call, it took him a year to take Norway". His parents were killed in a reprisal by Germans and he fought in the resistance from 12 until he came to Canada as a war orphan at 17. He started logging, later fishing in BC and was the toughest man I ever met. He was a big teddy bear with my kids but he never could be cordial with Germans.
Yea there are some old grudges still held, it tends to be a bit comedic but on occasion the harm remains within living memory
Very clear cut and humorous video......
Thank You
You're welcome, thanks for your reply.
Subbed. Good info and humor when necessary.
Thanks and welcome to the channel!
Would love to see a clip about volunteers for SS units from neutral countries (e.g. Sweden, Switzerland, Liechtenstein), and what their motivation was.
As always another very interesting video Stefan!
Thanks!
Here here! 😄
Stephan, your intros! Getting better and better. Firm, stern voice. Compelling to accept what comes next. With some sound editing and instrumentals in the background... very Hollywood! 😄
Thank you, Theo!
another excellent video about interesting topics! This CZcams channel is extremely underrated! you deserve more subscribers..
Many thanks! Feel free to share! :D
Thank you for such informative videos keep up the excellent work
Thank you!
Love your intensity for teaching.
Thanks!
Where I live in Canada, near Huntsville, Norwegians were here in swarms, volunteering to fight against Hitler. The had a special recreation camp here which the Prince of Norway visited during the war.
Thank you for sharing.
Little Norway, a camp in Canada where many Norwegians learned to fly, and take up the fight against the nazis when our country where occupied, others where in England, Scotland and also here in Liverpool where i live...
Very interesting. Thanx Hustler. Also interesting about these battles of Norwegian, Dutch, Flemish and Dani’s volunteers: see AceDestroyer with his playlist of Narva 1944
Yes, great content!
There is also the legion Wallonie in Belgium that were part of the SS
Yes, correct!
Don't forget the Flemish S S
More than 33 countries people foght in the waffen ss
@@catholicracialist776 Zo gek was dat niet, van de kansel werd opgeroepen tegen het communisme te vechten.
En werd de Vlaamse soldaat in de eerste wereldoorlog niet geofferd door Franssprekende officieren?
@@kareldekale4987 "Vlamingen" toen had een andere betekenis dan nu. Toen waren ze raciaal zuivere Germanen zoals veel West en Noord Europeanen vroeger waren. Nu betekent "Vlaming" gewoon een inwoner van het gewest Vlaanderen.
Some of the Norwegian waffen ss soldiers were still laying rotting in the fields of Russia some years back. The Norwegian government for a long time refused to bring them back to Norway. Most Norwegians fought against the Nazis, but as in every war, also today, there will always be people who are convinced that fighting for the other team is the right thing ...
Interesting. Didn't know this about the government of Norway.
Subbed. Excellent commentary.
Welcome to the channel.
Hey from Tennessee, great channel sir!
Thank you, Jerry. Welcome to the channel!
Another informative vid..Thank-you
Thanks for your reply!
Greetings from a fellow historian! In addition to the SS, I know that a large number of Norwegians also served in the regular German Army/Heer, as well as the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe. Dunno if you already covered that in another video
I didn't. Any source on that?
I would appreciate a video on the role of the Kriegsmarine on D-Day in 1944.
Perhaps in the future. Not anytime soon.
You start out with " one thousand nine hundred norwegians served in ..." that's when I turned the video off.
It was over 6000 norwegian volunteers on the eastern front!
I can direct you to loads and loads of books about this subject if you like. I have close to a hundred books (mainly in norwegian) on the subject
And I can direct you to my sources you can find in the description.
@@HistoryHustle yes, l see you have one Norwegian source there. That source is biased considering his CV. I know who that guy is. If l were you l would try to get hold of some first hand sources instead of second and third hand sources.
Though i dont have figures i believe that more than 1900 something Norwegians fought in the eastern front.
All sources I have in mind refer to a whole division (Division Viking). Which means around 10K men at least.
This video is about the Norwegian Legion.
From the book The SS: Hitler's Instrument of Terror by Gordon Willamson. Starting from page 115 and ending 117. "Recruitment figures were hardly startling, though, with only some 300 coming forward the first year (page 115) Page 116: "2 battalions were eventually formed, Viken and Viking, and by March 1942 some 1200 men were trained and ready". Page 117 " In May of 1943, Quisling called on....a call that resulted in 600 men coming forward". So if each person counted here is a single person and not repeated we have 300 +1200 + 600 =2100 at the most. The way it reads is the some if not most of the first 300 would be in th 1200, making 1900 total just about correct.
I thought there were more norsland volunteers than the division azul. Thanks for the info much appreciated!
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The patriots trained in the ‘Polititroppene’ in Sweden were about 13500 able men.
Funny coincidence of the movie being uploaded right now, or some extra CZcams juice after my earlier comments and figured easily out where I was from? :p As that’s where I’m from indeed. Just kidding tho, bet it took a long time to make..
This is such a taboo and discreet thing for most Norwegians it’s barely ever talked about, so most information is based upon hearsay and the few who talk, and documents..
Though my family at the time was some of the highest ranking, generals and majors, when the war broke out in a certain part of the military I won’t mention due to privacy concerns. But we came from Hedmark and Oppland, and also northern Norway, where the first big resistance would go down. And we have around a few thousand pages on our military family history. We’re still generals and majors in the army btw ... we were literally part of the guys planning and pushing the rocks down the road onto the Nazis ;)
If I’m allowed from my family, I can give a lot of never said before information regarding certain events, with sources and evidence and documents of course. If you’re interested.
The king escaped directly through my great grandpas, and general, family’s area... :)
I’ve been talking to all my family who lived through this, and the documents left behind for my entire life... lots of stuff to share if ever wanted.
Very interesting to read and feel free to share whatever you can. The German invasion of Norway is one of these almost forgotten WW2 episodes. Recently I watched the movie "Kongens nei". Very interesting and well made motion picture.
A question if I may. Do can point out any material such as interviews, documentaries, books and the like of survivors of this Legion?
See the sources in the description below the video.
I Love your video’s. Can you please make a video about the dutch SS forces (Wiking) that where fighting around Berlin?
Thanks. I already have two videos about Dutch SS volunteers. In the future more will appear. Here's number one:
czcams.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/video.html
My father was born in Norway to a Norwegian father and a German-born mother. Though of mixed heritage, both of which he loved, he always felt more "German". In 1941 he joined the Deutsches Heer, went through basic training, and was eventually sent to a kriegsschule in Potsdam . There, he met and married the woman who was to become my mother, and after the war, I was born in Berlin. My father never spoke of his war time life that I can remember. My mother once told me that he regretted aspects of it, but like most German soldiers, he fought "for his country", not because he shared the extreme ideas of the Nazis.
Thank you for sharing this.
Leuke video's ! Check alleen even rond 4.45, daarin zeg je dat operatie Barbarossa begint in januari 41, terwijl dit juni 41 is ;) kleine tip vanuit mij, voor de rest ga zo door!
Dank Vincent, en ik ging de mist in bij de intonatie. Ik bedoelde: in januari 1941 begon het werven van Noorse SS-vrijwilligers.
Great video!
Saw a PPSH in Prague in the communism museum.
Thanks! I went to that museum as well (back in 2014 I believe).
Excellent work as always You mentioned the collar insignia of the original Legion I believe that in the beginning only german SS units wore the lightning insignia Foreign volunteers wore collar badges corresponding to their nationality although that was changed later on in the war and all germanic units wore SS badges I have seen photos of dutch French and scandinavian volunteers wearing those None germanic units, for example bosnian volunteers of SS Handshar were not allowed the SS badges but wore a collar insignia unique to their unit
Thank you Dave and interesting to read. I find much conflicting information about this topic. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Thanks, the second video I checked from you. Very nice!
Greetings from Zuid-Holland 😀👋🤚
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for your post.
Thanks for a very interesting "Formations" video. I really like your idea to make detailed videos about the more "unusual" units of WW2. I am from Denmark and I have a SUGGESTION for future content: Danish Waffen SS. In 1998, Danish history professor Claus Bundgård Christensen co-wrote a book about Danes in Waffen SS, and won the prize for best historical book of the year. Conincidently his newer book on European Waffen SS troops is translated into Dutch:
*Christensen, Claus Bundgård et. al. (2016): "De Waffen-SS : het Europese leger van de nazi's [Waffen-SS: Europe's Nazi soldiers" (in Dutch). Translated by de Boer, Geri. Rotterdam: Ad. Donker. 798 pages.
During the German occupation of Denmark,1940 -1945, 6000 Danes joined Waffen SS, but nearly all other Danish people hated them and considered them as traitors. Soldiers on leave in Waffen SS uniforms, stood out from the regular Germans of the occupation force, and they were often spat on, cursed at - and seven beaten up in the streets. I hope you can use the tip and get the book. Anyway, thanks again, Stefan. Keep up the good work! It is appreciated! Kind regards, Jon
Thanks for your message. I will talk about the Danes in the future but not anytime soon. So expect 2021 somewhere.
I Love you’re videos, can you make a video about the Dutch SS forces (Westland) fighting around Berlin
I will Explore the topic of Dutch SS volunteers further in multiple videos. This Saturday part 2 will be released.
History Hustle That sounds great. Alvast bedankt groeten uit Amsterdam.
Groeten uit Olsztyn! 🇵🇱
10:40 Where did joint legion fight at? Location is left out.
The Norwegian Legion was dispatched south-east at the Volkhov River at the Leningrad Front in February 1942 and its soldiers served in the trenches and endured the Russian winter.
My Dad was one of the "gutta på skauen." I have photos of him and 4-5 other young lads out in the woods wearing khaki armbands with Norwegian flags on them and carrying rifles including a Sten machine gun and a Bren lmg the Brits dropped to them
Thanks for sharing.
Kult, bestefaren min var i Vernemakten.
Interesting!
Thanks!
Top!
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History Hustle do you have or are making any videos about non-Japanese who collaborated with The Empire Of Japan during world war 2 ?
Not yet.
@@HistoryHustle i'll subscribe on thee off case you do make such content i do enjoy your content.
There was aprox 4500 Norwegian volunteers in the Waffen-SS. Those where the 4500 selected out of 15000 applicants.
Ok thanks for sharing this.
At least only two percent of the Norwegian population joined the NS. I respect Norwegians for that. I feel much better. 😌
Yes, much more Dutch were members of the NSB.
History Hustle Yeah I just learned there were over 100,000 Dutch NSB. I cried earlier today when I learned of dear Anne Frank and that she was a Dutch citizen.
Can you also tell us what happened to the GER - NOR war chidren? Are you so proud of the operations on thousands of children too?
@@neinnein9306 The women who had gone into a relationship with a german soldier during WWII was often named a "Tyskertøse", though a more neutral, less offensive term would be "Tyskerjente". Tyskertøse roughly translates to "german slut" as they often were accused of being easy and even sexually seductive towards the german soldiers. As a result, the children was named "Tyskerbarn", which just means german child. They often faced bullying and harassment at school from other children, though I know less about how adults acted towards them.
A lot of the Tyskerjentene together with their children was exiled from Norway as they were seen as traitors and they became German citizens.
@@Ozzianman I know the story. I was just asking, because the first one in this thread was so proud of Norwegians. But later they operated into the brains of many of these war childeren, so that they don't want to have babies one day on their own. They said German race is not clean enough. Imagine that. Are you better than your enemy while doing such things? That's wat I thought in this moment.
4:43 I think you mean that Barbarossa was started in June (not January) 1941
That's what I meant. I messed up the emphasis here. Recruiting of Norwegian volunteers started January 1941. Operation Barbarossa started in June 1941.
it was over 5000 norwegian volunteers.. among these were some hundred front nurses as well. 836 fell in battle or missing
Lemme know your source on this.
Where did u get that map?
From my school.
altijd goede onderwerpen! als je wilt kan ik je helpen met je uitspraak. Ik ben net zoals jij iets aan het opbouwen, ik geen online les, Nederlands en Engels. Als je wilt kun je met mij je teksten oefenen voor je ze gaat opnemen. Het zijn meestal de zelfde fouten die je maakt. Gewoon hollandse directheid en geen negativiteit :)
Dank Jason. Zeker interessant. Ga vandaag op reis dus ben de komende weken op stap. Voel je vrij om mijn gemaakte uitspraakfouten in een comment te zetten als dat mogelijk is.
@@HistoryHustle is goed ik zal het onthouden en je toe sturen
Good Norwegian pronunciation! :)
Thanks! I thought I was way of course though...
Good video. I just finished the battle of Raseiniai three days ago. Feel free to take a look.
Thanks!
I watch this guy I learn something
Quisling , cast a hugh shadow. That name is all that is remembered and unfortunately overstated in some classrooms here . The much more heroic but less sensitional Norwegian story of this conflict are overlooked . Thanks this was an important point . I had fallen for this unjustified emphasis in the past. It was the Norwegians that kept their treasury out of nazi hands , heavy water as well I think. Important contributions Well done Stephan !
Thanks for sharing this!
Every time I watch this guy I learn something Can't beat that really Stay healthy all Pete UK
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Hitler’s Vikings by British scholar Jonathan Trigg rather thoroughly covers the Scandinavians who fought in the Waffen SS. This included a ski battalion in the Lapland.
Norwegians volunteered at a rate of about four a day. There was not exactly a crush at the recruiting offices!
No, not many indeed.
@@HistoryHustle Danes also volunteered at about four a day.
Super, toto by mali vysielať v serialoch v ""TV", nech sa trochu otvoria oči v dnešnej dobe kto a čo spáchal. 👍👍✊
Thanks for watching.
You gotta do french miltia
The Milice? Mention them in the French Waffen-SS episode. Perhaps somewhere in the future I will make a standalone video about it.
''The Norwegian legion..''...it just rolls off the tongue nicely...
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Similarly, John Amery tried to recruit British volunteers from among POWs to fight on the Finnish front, in British uniform. This idea went nowhere.
True, did cover this here in case you're interested:
czcams.com/video/OpevGu3M7vQ/video.html
You guys should make an Instagram account I could help you set it up if you’d like free of charge
Please check: instagram.com/historyhustle
History Hustle Cool, I’ll go follow it
Have you done a video about the Swedes who fought in the Waffen SS ?
Nope and won't cover it anytime soon since it was only a couple of hundred. Some of them served in the Wiking Division which I did cover on this channel.
What is most interesting about the Swedes is what happened to them after the war. Since Sweden didn´t suffer a german occupation they were not punished for treason and slipped back quietly in to society.
Wasn’t it Peiper who reminded his comrades, after the war, that the SS were the first Pan European force?
I know the remark, not sure who made it first.
The Legion was in endless conflict with the Germans. Major Quist, the CO, although promoted to Obersturmbannführer, was banned from all SS activities because of his nationalism. Christmas '41 saw conflict with another officer, who complained "your Führer has placed me in a state of war with my brother, who is an officer in The US Navy, wich means Germany will have lost the war in 2-3 years because of America" Many had signed up for 6 months, but were released after 2 1/2 years. The hard core went to Wiking and Norge after the Legion was ended. The Norwegians there did not agree with all the Volksdeutsche from Siebenburgen. So after that the Norwegian contribution was the "Police Ski Companies"
Thanks for sharing this additional information.
Thts a nice m36 feldbluse w
bottle green collar SS collartabs. I had the m36 greatcoat with green collar . Auch a 43 dated tropical feldbluse very nice tan backed officers bullion chest Eagle.
Thanks for sharing this!
@@HistoryHustle Thank you aswell for sharing fantastic history every episode is Tops.
🇳🇴🤝🇩🇪 Yes, the Norwegians do not have a civilized and cultural difference from the Germans, so it is natural for them to join it and Norwegians tend to have a strong sense of history and civic engagement, and on special occasions, many Norwegians wear traditional clothing or bunads. In Norwegian culture, one of the most important values is tolerance,respect and equality and Germany is known for its long and rich history, which has put it at the forefront of European thought, politics and art for over 1,000 years. This history has shaped a culture that combines predominantly Christian values, literature, art, philosophy, logic, reason and, of course, a love of beer and sausage and The people, the language and the traditions are what make German culture unique.
The people, the language and the traditions are what make German culture unique. She had a major role in the history of Europe, and not only. English speakers call it Germany, and the Germans themselves call it Deutschland. Germany is known as the country of poets and thinkers.
German culture has been influenced and shaped by Germany's rich history once as an important part of the Holy Roman Empire, and later as one of the most stable cultures in the world.
You're kind of contradicting yourself when you calim ideology was their primary motivation rather than anti-communist and pro-finnish sentiments. And then directly go on to explain how fighting on the lenningrad front rather then on the finnish front, and having to wear german uniforms was a severe morale blow. Some of the volunteers had actually fought AGAINST the germans in 1940, some against the russians as volunteers in Finland. Yes, many were NS members, but the ideology of the NS was not entierly that of the NSDAP. The relationship between the NS and it's sympatizers, and the germans is an interesting and complicated one. Honestly this wasn't all that well researched. You should have mentioned that the norwegians (as well as all the other scandinavian volunteers) served by contract, contracts that had to be renewd after a while. Many of them didn't renew their contracts precisely because of the promisses broken, end ideological differences between the more nationalistic NS and the more Pan-Germanic NSDAP and SS.
Thanks for taking the time to write this down. There is much more stuff to go indepth. As for the contracts, I am willibg to belief it but didn't read anything about contracts.
NS was by no means a rising party in Norway in the interwar era. There were two attempts before Nasjonal Samling to create fascist and national socialist partyes and movements. The first was "Den nasjonale legion" under the leadership of Karl Meyer, which was inspired by Italian fascism and wanted to abolish democracy and create a fascist state, they were mostly a small group of eccentric that had no impact and was largely forgotten afterwards. The second was the NNSAP(Norges Nasjonal-socialistiske arbeiderparti) which was a Hitler-inspired party, it had no more than 1000 members at the most. Some of its leading members became members of Quislings Nasjonal Samling after its foundation, but left in 1934-35 because the party at the point was not antisemitic enough. The NS movement later split further and finally by 1937 became a small bunch of Quisling supporters, nothing significant. In the first electon they participated in they got very few votes. They got 2,2 % of the votes in the 1933 parlamentary election in Norway and 1,8 in 1936 and never received any seat in the parliament. They got 47,4% in one small county, which was largest ammount of votes from any country, which was 403 votes. They got 29,8% of the votes in another area which was 12 votes. Their highest number of votes were in small villages and rural areas around the area that Quisling originated from.
Thanks for the additional information.
Zou je eens je mening kunnen geven over nationaal socialisme?
Zijn het facisten of misschien toch extreme socialisten (net als communisten)?
Ik adviseer je om bv TIK of WW2 geschiedenis youtube kanalen even te bekijken over dit onderwerp.
Wel een controversieel onderwerp om een mening over te hebben.
Ps goed filmpje weer
Dank voor je reactie Serge. Ik zie nationaalsocialisten als extreme vorm van fascisme. Het zijn extreemrechtse ideologieën die tevens totalitair van aard zijn. Communisme is eveneens totalitair, maar zit weer op de extreem linkse flank. TIK en WW2 hebben hier een eigen visie op. Historici eveneens. Het is een zeer theoretisch debat waar ik mijn focus niet ligt overigens.
@@HistoryHustle bedankt voor je reactie.
So, WHY does Terboven sounds so very Dutch?
Terboven (from the Dutch ter Boven) was born in Essen, Germany, as the son of minor landed gentry of Dutch descent.
Correct. The nazi ideology did not distinguish people from perspective of their social class differences, like socialist or communist ideologies did, but from their common ground, namely ethnicity and "race". (To a lesser extent, nationality)
Thanks for your reply.
"Yeah keep on dreaming..." lol
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First time I have watched a post from yourself........excellent content
Definitely prefer a European telling me about the second world war as opposed to a yank ......keep up the good content my friend 😁😁
Many thanks!
@@HistoryHustle your more than welcome 😁😁
Volunteering for the Eastern Front…what were they thinking? Maybe seemed like a good idea at the time.
Here about motivations of Dutch volunteers:
czcams.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/video.html
In Norway the name "Quisling" was / is pseudonyme for "traitor".
I read that yes.
That must have severily crippled their fighting will
In what sense you mean?
With the Continuation War or Jatkosota, Finland was a co-belligerent against the USSR, not an ally of Germany. One can argue this fine line, but Norwegians were pulled in under German uniforms and flag partly (or an excuse) because of this technicality. Nonetheless "quisling" as a term will far outlive itself as a surname and occupied Norway was not recognized as an ally or co-belligerent with Nazi Germany.
Yes, there was a difference between Norway's and Finland's contribution to the war and there can be made a distinction between Finland as co-belligerent and for example Italy as ally.
Sir, your content is unique and very well researched/presented, could I suggest as a historian, that you leave your own opinion out of the commentary.... slightly mocking and dismissive....thank you.
I do that to distance myself from revisionists and neo Nazis. There are many on the platform.
@@HistoryHustle Ok. Thank you for taking the time to explain your position. I really appreciate your excellent productions.
He said January 1941 it was June
I messed up the emphasis. Recruiting of Norwegian volunteers started January 1941. Operation Barbarossa started in June 1941.
The Norwegians that joined up tough my they where going to Finland not the eastern front
They were promised Finland but were sent to the south of Leningrad.
Sounds like they were a bunch of whiners.
Who ever heard of joining any military and getting to pick where you train and are shipped to . Get real
Ok.
Operation barbarossa didn’t start in January 1941 it was June 1941
I refer to something else that happened then. Dutch grammer slipped in.
Would be good if you would cover the baby breeding facilities, e.g. girls from Norway becoming pregnant with SS men. Wasn't the dark haired girl from ABBA born in such an establishment ?
Dunno.
How terrible to choose between Communism or Nazism .
A rock and a hard place although communism wasn't threatening Norway directly.
@@HistoryHustle If Finland would have fallen, Sweden and Norway would have been next. No one thought Finland could stop Soviet Union so they had to made decisions based on that assumption.
Also if you think the Finnish army was small during the time, situation was worse in Sweden and Norway.
Also only natural barrier between Nordics and Russia is between Finland and Russia. With natural barrier i mean terrain that makes it real hard if not impossible for Russians to attack Nordics.
They get past that, the game is over.
THE NÖRLEGION
The Norwegian Legion yes.
Germanske! These Norwegian men were heroes, they fought proudly and boldly against communists. As did many other European nationalities. It's so sad to see the way their governments treated them after the war. Imagine if the U.S., UK, France, and Germany and other European countries had united against Russia! What a beautiful thought! So sad that it went the other way...
and Italy too.. of course 😁
And they also committed war crimes, wouldn't call them heroes.
@@HistoryHustle all nations did, the bombing of dresden rings a certain bell...
@@HistoryHustle and the Russians basically committed one massive war crime on their westward sweep.
So What?
it is war!
Ok.
Nationality by definition means ethnicity.
I wouldn't say so. In some countries multiple ethnic groups can live.
@@HistoryHustleIts an ethnic identity, citizenship is different. Definition from Cambridge Dictionary of 'nation' A large group of people of the same race that share the same language, traditions and history, but might not all live in the same area.
I understand your point. I do believe that there is a distinction however both are intertwined. Nationality is the political approach. Ethnicity the antropological approach. Again, they are closely related.
@@HistoryHustle Having already defined what 'nationality' actually means and this has been observed since antiquity.
Nationality and ethnicity are one of the same and is defined by natural characteristics.
Politics and ideology is a relatively recent man made construct of ideas. Citizenship is differant, its a piece of paper.
We can agree that we don't agree on this.
Facts wrong again. Operation Barbarossa started 22 June 1941 not January 1941
The campaign to draw Norwegian volunteers started in January 1941. Operation Barbarossa started 22 June 1941.
@@HistoryHustle I suggest you listen to your tape again.Mistakes like this should not come from a purported history teacher, czcams.com/video/F3BPW5WMmDo/video.html
Aesop Bruh calm down
In tha one map they label finnish troops with a swastika the map was propably made by russians as to them the finns were nazis as were all non communists
I guess.
Well first of all Den Norske Legion was formed to help the finnish people against the russians. Second it was supposed to have a norwegian leadership/command, not German. The volunteers felt they were cheated and tricked to join.. And thats why only 300 out of 1900 men stayed in the SS after they came back to Norway in 1943... It needs to be said that they wanted to fight with the Finnish people.. Thats what they were told, thats what they were promised... And thats not what happened.
(Google translate)
For recruitment purposes and propaganda, the Norwegian Legion was presented as being a purely Norwegian department with Norwegian uniforms, Norwegian officers and the Norwegian language. Furthermore, Finland's case was brought forward in the propaganda. These representations were worthless, and to the disappointment of the Norwegian volunteers, in that the department was placed under German command, with then German military law, German service language and German uniforms. However, one Waffen-SS mark was replaced with the Norwegian lion.
Thanks for sharing.
I feel bad for Norway and other countries in Europe because they didn’t fight them.
No, just that they didn’t want war and the Nazis forced them into it.
@Chad Pandapneumonium I would like to see those special sources of yours😉
Chill out man I’m literally 11
@@josh-ke9gl He seems to be a troll. Don't take him to seriously. It's good you show interest in WW2 by watching this video at your age😀
Thanks @Tim Dutch
they weren't volunteers
Please explain.
@@HistoryHustle I believe he is perhaps referring to the conscripts in the 5th SS Wiking Division.
Good thing Norway had Max Manus and other resistance fighters who kept the torch of freedom burning during the war years.
There is even a movie made about Manus. Have to check this out!
@@HistoryHustle yes i have watched it already. Good movie Highly Recommended.👍👍
Great, can't wait.
Hey can you explain class 9 history ch 3 Nazism and the rise of Hitler (ncert) please
Not on my to-do-soon list sorry.
Norwegians don't know
ok
The failure of the Norwegian army is very interesting. You brush over it. Though your videos are good, this is a bit unclear to me. It was a much too easy victory for the Huns. Was it just Hun military brilliance rather than Norge patheticism. Would the same happen now?
The video isnt about the Norwegian army. This one is:
czcams.com/video/UP52eQHQR6U/video.html
@@HistoryHustle I've watched it. You say the Norwegians had no naval tradition. Probably true in a military sense but they had a huge merchant marine which did a lot for the allied war effort. I guess their army was unprepared and up against a much better and more ruthless military. Shocking how quickly they caved in though.
Most fought against the Soviets because they did not like the Communists
Believe this is mentioned in the video.
Just tell the history. The emotional role playing is a distraction.
Please explain.
You failed to mention why Germany had to invade Norway who’s invasion couldn’t safely be done without first invading Denmark which was the supply line stepping stone to Norway , but the Germans didn’t ever invade Sweden . You know the reason why Germany invaded Norway, because the English were planning on invading Norway themselves. The English were no angels in their quest to conquer the world , the English during WWII did indeed attack and invaded neutral Iraq , Iceland , and Iran .
For sure. It's beyond the scope of this video since this video focusses on, well see the title.
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Your story is wrong... man from Finland...
Please explain.
History Hustle
Most man was looking for adventure...
Booring life... It was same in Finland... Panttipatalioona. My garnpap was like Idiana Jones, he need something... I hope he got it. He want natzi... He was Viking... he need some peace of action... most of casisis it wasnt political just something what explore and fleel...
Please check the sources. They are presented below the video.