LISTEN: Forensic pathologist Dr. Garth Warren testifies in Lori Vallow Daybell trial

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    Forensic pathologist Dr. Garth Warren testified in the Lori Vallow Daybell trial on Wednesday, April 26. Listen to his testimony in the video player above.
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Komentáře • 326

  • @lynnegackstetter2779
    @lynnegackstetter2779 Před rokem +190

    To all the people who loved these two children and you had to hear these details let me say how sorry I am. My heart breaks for you all.💜💔💜

    • @pattihawks353
      @pattihawks353 Před rokem +12

      Yes, mine, as well. Sounds like JJ was given a Hot Chocolate “cocktail”., with various additives. Alcohol, no less! So sick to think of this!
      Prayers for the loving people who were blessed to be part of these children’s lives.
      🧡🙏🧡🙏🧡

    • @yanniegrannie
      @yanniegrannie Před rokem +12

      Your compassion is a beautiful thing ❤ the world needs more people like you. I echo your sentiment 💔

    • @jamiedragonlady_3291
      @jamiedragonlady_3291 Před rokem +9

      Taylee looks so much like my own daughter and they are basically the same age. This story breaks my heart; Lori is despicable

    • @lynnegackstetter2779
      @lynnegackstetter2779 Před rokem +7

      @@yanniegrannie My mom taught me to be compassionate even to the worst of people. She reminded me that even the worst of people were not born to this world that way. I have had to work hard to feel compassion for Lori. That she sacrificed her children to have a life with a man that chose instead of her children is awful. But she will be judged for that so I pity her soul. That's the best I can do for her.

    • @yanniegrannie
      @yanniegrannie Před rokem +7

      @Lynne Gackstetter your comment shows a perfect balance between reality and kindness and a compassion for those affected by Loris' heinous activities, your Mom did good 🙂. There are just so many victims in this case, genuinely good people who have been shattered by Chad and Loris choices

  • @deepstatethrombosis
    @deepstatethrombosis Před rokem +84

    The juxtaposition of Lori & Chad dancing on the beach while these two innocent kids are rotting in the ground is mind blowing. I'm glad her sister called her out on EXACTLY that fact. Disgusting.

    • @gregthomas2448
      @gregthomas2448 Před rokem +8

      Agree 100 percent. That Hawaiian Beach fiasco while her kids were buried in Chads backyard “pet” cemetery is beyond comprehension. Lori & Chad rot

    • @jannbush603
      @jannbush603 Před rokem +7

      IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW COLD AND SELFISH AND EVIL CHAD AND LORI ARE...

    • @NormanBatesNumbers
      @NormanBatesNumbers Před rokem +6

      That Chad tried to debunk & distract from his limb burning & diurnal racoon shooting to the loving wife he'd soon kill as well and profit off of is beyond evil & was all so selfish, cowardly, unjustifiable, & unnecessary. All the victims & their loved ones deserved so much more & better than this. If either Chad or Lori had any microscopic remnant of love, conscience, morality, heart, shame, or remorse, they would admit everything, make full detailed confessions of everything, & beg everyone's forgiveness, not put all the grieving loved ones and others through more.
      Instead, they've just put more people through this, all the jurors & alternates & court personnel, the community, law enforcement & investigators, lawyers, journalists, family members, friends, people who helped search and who cared for the victims; there's just no end to the selfishness of Lori and Chad; no bottom to them.
      To spin their greedy selfish evil as divine will is blasphemy, perjury, and fraud.
      I wonder if JJ or Tylee even knew their Mom was happily heading off to Hawaii and leaving them behind after helping to set them up for and hand them off to be slaughtered.
      I wonder if Lori will decide to turn on Chad to try to save herself?
      What horrible depravity. These snakes were so blessed and destroyed all the most beautiful and precious gifts entrusted to them.
      It's unconscionable.

    • @gregthomas2448
      @gregthomas2448 Před rokem +2

      @@NormanBatesNumbers excellent summation! Lori and Chads greed, lust and actions are so depraved it is almost beyond belief. The fact that these two were living in Hawaii on social security and life insurance benefit money from people they slaughtered is hard to process. The two kids buried in Chads backyard in the “pet” cemetery. Then look at those pictures of their “unholy marriage” on a beach in Hawaii. It’s sickening. No other words for it.

    • @norma9975
      @norma9975 Před rokem

      You are so right they are evil but they are not dancing anymore.

  • @stephaniebernal5100
    @stephaniebernal5100 Před rokem +110

    I love this witness! He gave it back so good to Lori’s goofball attorney.

    • @sylvias7111
      @sylvias7111 Před rokem +11

      total goofball that attorney😂😂😂

    • @joank.0421
      @joank.0421 Před rokem +6

      Yes, he mailed his response. I dislike that Defense Attorney 😕 take a good look at what you did to your son Lori.

    • @sambia7295
      @sambia7295 Před rokem +9

      I was so happy to hear him reply to Lori's attorney the way he did! This doctor knows his job and was not going to take a comment like Lori's attorney had.

    • @missykim510
      @missykim510 Před rokem +4

      He has nothing to defend his client with. At least, this way, Lori can't sulk about not being represented properly and appeal for a mistrial. In a way, this guy is making sure the court only goes through this "song and dance" once. Chad's lawyer is watching this closely, and no doubt advising his client to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty. If Chad fights this, he is a dead man.... probably end up a dead man in jail too. Oh well, no loss there.

    • @codydicken6400
      @codydicken6400 Před rokem +1

      @@missykim510I assume the state will not accept a plea and pursue the death penalty in any case

  • @skippee101
    @skippee101 Před rokem +40

    And while these two babies were left to rot in the ground their ‘mother’ was giggling on a beach!

    • @gregthomas2448
      @gregthomas2448 Před rokem

      I hope she rots in hell and I hope her life sentence in prison is long and horrible just like her soul.

  • @chelsear.5386
    @chelsear.5386 Před rokem +122

    Major points to Dr. Warren for his exchange with the defence ❤

    • @257rani
      @257rani Před rokem +10

      ❤🤝

    • @mightywon-vf3pb
      @mightywon-vf3pb Před rokem

      The Defense has become nothing leas than a circus act! Every tax payer in that state should be outraged that their tax dollars are wasted on such a clown of an attorney !
      He should never be paid by the state again !
      I wonder how many he has been appointed to defend that have filed Ineffective counsel motions? Again costing tax payers !
      I continue to be shocked at his unprofessional attitude his lack of preparedness and his low IQ grasping!

    • @joank.0421
      @joank.0421 Před rokem

      Yes, agree 💯 superb testimony - asphyxiation by plastic bag, which makes it impossible to breathe 😕 you Defense Attorney TWAT.
      💙💜💜💙 RIP JJ, Tylee, Tammy, and Charles.

    • @CMJames
      @CMJames Před rokem +6

      Wasn’t hard, defence attorney made a literal fool of himself

    • @Ruth695
      @Ruth695 Před rokem +3

      The defence using slang phrases at times such as "do your thing" this a professional man in a court of law! What an embarrassment.
      They also tend to argumentative and rude toward the witnesses

  • @radl1936
    @radl1936 Před rokem +27

    I have such tremendous respect for doctors who speak for the dead.

  • @danishpastries3941
    @danishpastries3941 Před rokem +19

    When they said J.J. had his blanket there, my thoughts were, only Lori would have put it with him. Chad or Alex would not have thought of that.

    • @wolfkin_uk
      @wolfkin_uk Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes, it seems like the kind of thing the primary caregiver would do.

  • @solidshade81
    @solidshade81 Před rokem +63

    It makes me SO ANGRY that poor JJ was most likely awake and aware as they did those terrible things to him . One of my greatest phobias is not being able to breathe. I hope Tylee atleast wasnt aware. I know that doesnt really help anything as they are still gone, but to add terror and pain to knowing people you love are hurting you is just beyond the beyond

    • @malibudolphin3109
      @malibudolphin3109 Před rokem +3

      Not being able to breathe....is life and death situation
      Phobias are fear of something that is unreasonable, nonlethal

    • @solidshade81
      @solidshade81 Před rokem +7

      @@malibudolphin3109 thank you, oh correction wizard 👍

    • @Maree_23
      @Maree_23 Před rokem +2

      I agree. Having children with disabilities I couldn’t imagine the thoughts that went through his little mind. I keep thinking the reason Tylee was dismembered other than the rituals but because she was heavier and couldn’t be lifted or placed in a bag. 😭😭😭😭🤬

    • @MsChristinaLS
      @MsChristinaLS Před rokem +1

      I literally gasped when he spoke about the scratch marks. It makes me want to break out in tears 😢 just thinking of what these poor kids went through!

    • @Blonde111
      @Blonde111 Před rokem

      People you love hurt you all the time.

  • @heatherstephens9295
    @heatherstephens9295 Před rokem +85

    I am in awe of the doctors that perform these procedures to bring justice to the victims. Unbelievable skills ❤

    • @ginamcgrew9955
      @ginamcgrew9955 Před rokem +7

      I agree. I am very thankful that there are people who can do these difficult jobs, but I am definitely not one of them💔

    • @debidriscoll8108
      @debidriscoll8108 Před rokem +5

      I can't imagine seeing things like this every day in their job performance and going home to sleep at night. It takes such a strong person to do this job. I'd have to be in some serious therapy to do that job.

    • @heatherstephens9295
      @heatherstephens9295 Před rokem

      @@debidriscoll8108 me too!

  • @kimberlydavis4772
    @kimberlydavis4772 Před rokem +78

    I’d like to see Lori and Chad get those autopsy photos as a Christmas card every year. Just as a reminder of the horrific things they did to those children.

    • @emarteliz
      @emarteliz Před rokem +6

      The jail opens the mail, would they give them to them? I would hate for whoever opened the envelopes 😢

    • @sylvias7111
      @sylvias7111 Před rokem +18

      I don't think they would be so impressed. After all they were there when they killed them and chopped and packed them up. Psychopaths.

    • @mirandarandolph8240
      @mirandarandolph8240 Před rokem +10

      They don’t care

    • @annohalloran6020
      @annohalloran6020 Před rokem +4

      Maybe they could be sentenced to horrific biological cleanups. No mask. No gloves.

    • @sambia7295
      @sambia7295 Před rokem +1

      @@mirandarandolph8240 AGREE! They don't care!

  • @pamcollins1651
    @pamcollins1651 Před rokem +34

    Oh god this is beyond awful the physical and emotional torture of the two children and all other family members is beyond horrific! I cannot imagine the pain and horror they have all suffered!

    • @terrylwamsteeker4394
      @terrylwamsteeker4394 Před rokem +1

      I feel even worse for Kay & Larry Woodcock who allowed Lori & Charles to adopt JJ. They believed they were giving him a home where he would have a full time stay at home Mom & excellent schools & resources for his special needs. They couldn't possibly have foreseen what would happen, but I'm sure they feel regret & anguish everyday over giving JJ up to them. This will go on until the day they die.

  • @lynnegackstetter2779
    @lynnegackstetter2779 Před rokem +31

    I am also grateful that the autopsy photos were not released to the public. That is a good thing. Those are private and although I know the the jurors have to see them but not the general public.

    • @tmp1111
      @tmp1111 Před 2 měsíci

      They are juveniles, so there is more protection by the court to keep them sealed

  • @beckyboop51
    @beckyboop51 Před rokem +82

    Chad and Lori Daybell are absolutely heartless monsters. I keep remembering seeing them in Hawaii on tv when everyone was looking for these precious children. It’s hard to imagine how they just went on with their lives after murdering 4 people?

    • @sylvias7111
      @sylvias7111 Před rokem +11

      well, they were all "safe and happy" according to Lori. With God in heaven and released from old demons. 🤮🤬😡

    • @mysticalmargaret6105
      @mysticalmargaret6105 Před rokem +13

      They are both revolting beings.

    • @Christina-71
      @Christina-71 Před rokem +14

      I still believe she also conspired to have Tylee's dad murdered too, along with her lap dog brother. Who know how many others have suffered untimely deaths after crossing her.

    • @idontcare1481
      @idontcare1481 Před rokem +3

      @@Christina-71Maybe even her sister Stacy who died young too.

    • @sambia7295
      @sambia7295 Před rokem

      @@Christina-71 Absolutely! I have always thought with her knowing she would receive $60,000 life insurance policy on Joe Ryan, he was murdered by her and her brother's hand. I also agree with you 100% that if LE dug deeper, they would find there are many more that these evil people have murdered.

  • @mightywon-vf3pb
    @mightywon-vf3pb Před rokem +27

    So absolutely horrific! My heart goes out to the jurors , police detectives and pathologists. I could not be a juror in such a case I commend them !

    • @debidriscoll8108
      @debidriscoll8108 Před rokem +1

      I can't imagine them not needing serious therapy after this

    • @jenniferhansen3622
      @jenniferhansen3622 Před rokem

      ​@@debidriscoll8108Is therapy provided to jurors after horrific cases like this? It should be.

  • @marihernandez8284
    @marihernandez8284 Před rokem +47

    I checked on my kids before i watched this 17,15,13, and 8 after hearing this I had to go back and kiss their foreheads as they sleep. Im sure in the morning my teens will be like mom what the heck why did you come in kissing on me last night. A mom is supposed to love and protect her kids and lori did not. How she let anyone harm her babies I will never understand!

    • @257rani
      @257rani Před rokem +5

      ❤❤🙏🌏🇦🇺

    • @mysticalmargaret6105
      @mysticalmargaret6105 Před rokem +5

      There is no reasoning or making sense of evil. That's what the dastardly duo are. Pure evil.

    • @idontcare1481
      @idontcare1481 Před rokem

      I think she took part in it. A psychic who predicted how these kids died exactly down to a white bag on JJ’s head and black bag on his body and duct tape and described Tylee’s dismemberment in January (months before they were found) said Lori took part in putting the bag over JJ and she beat Tylee repeatedly in the head while Alex or Chad strangled her and beat her way beyond necessary to kill the poor girl. I’m inclined to believe it although I’ve always been told to stay away from this kind of thing. I was shocked to find out this psychic was correct! She said they dismembered Tylee in Chad’s workshop on his property. So sad!

    • @cristineconnell7803
      @cristineconnell7803 Před rokem +2

      Was thankful my grandkids came to visit so I could do the same with them! ❤ Lori is no Mom in my opinion! Being able to give birth doesn't make a Mom to me, just as depositing seeds doesn't make Dad! My teens never mentioned the midnight Mom prayer watches! Lol

    • @sambia7295
      @sambia7295 Před rokem +2

      She could let anyone harm them, because she planned all of this along with Chad and Alex.

  • @DeeLish2000
    @DeeLish2000 Před rokem +36

    Chad had to have been the one who killed JJ. Remembering Mel’s account of the night Chad took JJ to “bed” and then came out with scratches on his neck. JJ was not seen after that.

    • @mysticalmargaret6105
      @mysticalmargaret6105 Před rokem +27

      Chad is facing murder charges for asphyxiating Tammy. JJ was asphyxiated to death. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if JJ died directly at his hands, rather than his uncle's, Alex Cox. Either way, the three monsters are demons. Horrible beings.

    • @miajackson3559
      @miajackson3559 Před rokem +5

      I think Alex could easily have new. Framed by taking his phone to the burial site etc.

    • @SocratesoftheNorth
      @SocratesoftheNorth Před rokem +8

      ​@@miajackson3559 nope...he fully participated

    • @Ken_Dalton
      @Ken_Dalton Před rokem +13

      @@mysticalmargaret6105 yup I'd say youre right about Chad doing it and Alex was roped into the burials..😒so disgusted by this as a man who wasn't blessed with having kids it's heartbreaking hearing this😔..

    • @Monalisa0622
      @Monalisa0622 Před rokem +5

      @Mia Jackson all of this is vial. These people are demon filled. So difficult for any of us to truly figure out who did what. But they all had a role. Even Melanie Gibbs. How in the world do you not realize something wrong and sick was going on when you see those scratches on Chad. And them talking about JJ climbing the fridge. They had to add that JJ knocked the picture of Christ. That had to be put in.....

  • @CommunityTab
    @CommunityTab Před rokem +17

    What a fantastic Doctor, Dr Garth Warren. The fact the defence is going off movies is very scary..
    It's almost like you care more about that sweet boy than his own mother did.

    • @annohalloran6020
      @annohalloran6020 Před rokem +2

      He might be a Better Call Saul type of lawyer lol

    • @CommunityTab
      @CommunityTab Před rokem +3

      @@annohalloran6020 when he kept asking had he looked up the nose, the Dr had to explain how JJ would have died with a plastic bag over his head, the fact there was no air left!! I can't quite believe he would push that so hard. JJ didn't put that bag over his own head and bury himself 6 feet under. Is she saying she's not guilty and that Chad is or that neither are do you know?

  • @debidriscoll8108
    @debidriscoll8108 Před rokem +15

    Oh my goodness poor JJ, that was not a quick death. How horrifying. My heart is with these families learning this

    • @DamnitDana
      @DamnitDana Před rokem +1

      I have a non verbal, autistic sweet boy and I cannot stop thinking about how unbelievably confused and scared he must’ve been 😢

  • @thehoneybee3020
    @thehoneybee3020 Před rokem +12

    It is so hard to get through this testimony with ads popping up every 6 minutes.

    • @cristineconnell7803
      @cristineconnell7803 Před rokem +1

      Tried listening with external speaker in tub. Not easy when ads keep interrupting!

    • @barbmurray8557
      @barbmurray8557 Před rokem +2

      You can pay and won't get ads

    • @mandi75
      @mandi75 Před rokem

      Not to mention insensitive!

    • @joelmelissam
      @joelmelissam Před rokem

      I’d forgotten ads are a thing on YT. My $11 per month is so worth it.

  • @pickles4sn1
    @pickles4sn1 Před rokem +14

    Poor kids, that’s the absolute worst way to die. Not being able to breathe..

  • @hectorstrachan
    @hectorstrachan Před rokem +17

    This defense attorney is absolutely pathetic and obnoxious all at once….not a very good combination

    • @257rani
      @257rani Před rokem +6

      Agree

    • @hectorstrachan
      @hectorstrachan Před rokem +1

      @@snek7638 you’re absolutely right

    • @klb2513
      @klb2513 Před rokem

      Just wait until we have to listen to John Prior....

    • @beastshawnee
      @beastshawnee Před rokem

      Well the defense attorney has to try something…-anything or else the guilty can claim ineffective counsel later. Don’t blame the attorney for doing their job even in a hopeless case where the guilt is so clear.

  • @TrueCrimeSluethin
    @TrueCrimeSluethin Před rokem +12

    Dr. Garth Warren is highly qualified and educated. Has done numerous homicide autopsies. The defense attorney's questions were ludicrous!! He grilled him why he didn't check sinuses or throat for evidence of plastics. Doc said that's never done. And then the defense attorney stated "he was going off of movies he saw." Dr. Warren: "That's scary." Priceless!
    Tylee and JJ died horrific, traumatizing deaths. JJ had evidence of a struggle so he was fighting for his life. We don't know what Tylee went through but I am sure it was just as bad. All at the hands of their Mother and new step dad, Chad. We do not know for sure if Alex was involved in its entirety. I say this due to Alex's last words stating Lori and Chad were going to make him the fall guy. Chad could have set Alex up by calling him over to his house/yard knowing his cell phone would locate him there. There's too many unanswered questions.
    JJ was bound. That goes along with Chad and Lori's religious beliefs. Bound the evil spirit.
    Tylee was burned. Same applies with religious beliefs: Burn evil spirits by fire. Which btw, Melanie Gibb had full knowledge of burning by fire. Just sayin'.
    I hope both Chad and Lori receive "prison justice." What they did to these precious children is beyond any human comprehension. My heart goes out to the Woodstocks and all family and loved ones. This is heart wrenching!!

  • @SocratesoftheNorth
    @SocratesoftheNorth Před rokem +36

    Condolences 🙏 to all family members who loved these children and have been damaged by this horrific situation...RIP JJ, Tylee, Charles and I suspect Joe Ryan...may justice be served...❤

    • @thatonegirl4676
      @thatonegirl4676 Před rokem

      Don't forget Tammy.

    • @thatonegirl4676
      @thatonegirl4676 Před rokem

      I'm also wondering if Lori had anything to do with the mysterious death of her sister back in 98... She might have wanted the sister out of the way so that she could have full access to her niece.

  • @GRACEGOD100
    @GRACEGOD100 Před rokem +40

    My heart goes out to all the people, friends and family that have to go through this horrendous time. May your hearts and minds be healed and come to peace in time. 😢

  • @ChaChaRah
    @ChaChaRah Před rokem +7

    As a mom of a sweet little boy with Autism… I cannot imagine! This breaks my heart so much. He was already in a world that was so much harder for him to navigate and the people who are supposed to love and protect him didn’t! He was loved and WANTED by his grandparents! I truly believe she murdered him for the SS money and in retaliation for Kay getting the life insurance money. Sweet JJ RIP 😭

  • @conniemartin284
    @conniemartin284 Před rokem +18

    How could Anyone do this to Children… or anyone for that matter!
    I hope Lori listened and Saw, this Evidence!
    These are Your Children!
    Prayers for the family of these Children 🙏🙏🙏

    • @missimed9620
      @missimed9620 Před rokem

      I think she should have been made to watch and look instead of turning her back, She's a fruit basket , she's worse than evil idk even why she gets a trial! I get it but she don't deserve it! As a parent myself? omg my kids are everything no matter what! hurt em and I'd rain hell fire on whoever hurt them!

    • @gregthomas2448
      @gregthomas2448 Před rokem

      I hope Lori and Chad rot in prison and suffer every day of what’s left of there miserable existence.

  • @TrueCrimeSluethin
    @TrueCrimeSluethin Před rokem +10

    I'm still listening, almost done. Tylee was burned in the fire pit. I am baffled how none of the neighbors smelled burning flesh, bones and organs?! This has a distinct, putrid, awful smell. J.D. Salinger, who helped liberate concentration camps in World War II, told his daughter, “You never really get the smell of burning flesh out of your nose entirely. No matter how long you live.”

    • @terrylwamsteeker4394
      @terrylwamsteeker4394 Před rokem +2

      I always wondered exactly the same thing. That smell would be beyond awful!!

    • @kaylalaroque3038
      @kaylalaroque3038 Před rokem +2

      I think it was why they did an internet search of winds and what direction they were blowing they prob wanted them to be away from the neighbors

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 Před rokem

      I don't think their neighbors were that close by and they had researched which way the wind was blowing. Thank you for the Kudos to JD Salinger

  • @MMM-go4pl
    @MMM-go4pl Před rokem +14

    I am so sorry for JJ, Tyler and Charles that have to die in such a horrible way. My condolences to their love ones.

    • @Jan88755
      @Jan88755 Před rokem +5

      And also Chad’s wife Tammy

  • @chasnfireflies317
    @chasnfireflies317 Před rokem +13

    He just described the manner/cause of death of my daughter with a gun shot wound to her head. It looked as though either of them could have shot her. It was undetermined.
    It was like he was describing her. God help everyone trying to cope with and understand the loss of these 2 precious children. 😢 I've lost two and I just cannot imagine living with it being at my own hands. I just can't understand. 😢😢😢

  • @lisapalmer7389
    @lisapalmer7389 Před rokem +3

    Love how Warren puts Douglas in his place!!! "That's scary!" 😂😂

  • @sylvias7111
    @sylvias7111 Před rokem +18

    Defense has nothing to loose. By the way he is a bit wacko that lawyer and unpleasant voice. The jury already made their mind up. Even if she was, which I don't believe, under the influence of Daybell what mother let this happen knowingly. Exit with Lori.

  • @kerryw1958
    @kerryw1958 Před rokem +6

    This is truly horrible.

  • @kathy411
    @kathy411 Před rokem +16

    My God, how can a Mother sit there and listen to this horror about her child. It’s beyond sick. There’s a special place in hell for Lori, Chad and Alex

    • @barbmurray8557
      @barbmurray8557 Před rokem +2

      She's not a mother

    • @Lady333333
      @Lady333333 Před rokem +2

      Hell does not want them there either……

    • @northerngirl4666
      @northerngirl4666 Před rokem +2

      No. There’s special place in jail for her. Do stop being superstitious. It’s 2023 …

  • @KathySpencer-mb7vi
    @KathySpencer-mb7vi Před rokem +14

    this defense attorney is a piece of work, really he says bag was duct taped after jj wad murdered!!!@

  • @merandaingram4295
    @merandaingram4295 Před rokem +11

    Wow her lawyer is acting like the doctor doesn't know what he's talking about and LV didn't do anything wrong. He's being such a smart@$$ 😠😠😠

  • @northerngirl4666
    @northerngirl4666 Před rokem +4

    ‘Tylee’s remains came in three bags …”

  • @Hartleymolly
    @Hartleymolly Před rokem +9

    wow, that picture of JJ drinking coke, on the couch, truly could of been his last day here 😢

  • @CANARYHP
    @CANARYHP Před rokem +4

    To think there are people walking among us that are capable of something this heinous is frightening.

  • @kiki29073
    @kiki29073 Před rokem +5

    For the defense to claim that he knows more from watching movies than an actual forensics pathologist is laughable but, really condescending.

  • @miogi0072
    @miogi0072 Před rokem +6

    The Loser's attorney doesn't want those autopsy photos to be shown to ANYONE! What is he so afraid of? The disgusting truth of what really happened to those two children? Why in the hell does he think they are in court? He has annoyed me throughout this trial. Both of them.

    • @loriburnip
      @loriburnip Před rokem +1

      I agree. I know it's their job to give her a vigorous defense, but they don't have to be dicks while doing it. Not only that but how redundant some of their questions are, it's like the prosecutor already asked that, ask something different! Like when the prosecutor asked the forensic pathologist about his education and then the defense attorney turns around and asks the exact same questions. If I was on the jury I would be annoyed with that. And just their tone of voice sometimes, they can ask questions without being so condescending. It's no wonder they lost.

  • @KO-ov6kg
    @KO-ov6kg Před rokem +9

    Anybody want to put a plastic bag over the defense attorney's head, to demonstrate to him how you die from asphysiation......?????

    • @angelicsiren11
      @angelicsiren11 Před rokem +2

      🤣 I’m sure he’d try to tell everyone how it doesn’t happen like that in the movies! Or ask for a stunt double.
      Seriously though, he is a piece of work. Talking to the witness like he has no idea what he’s doing. Never mind his years of education and real world experience.

    • @barbmurray8557
      @barbmurray8557 Před rokem +2

      Me me me

    • @terrylwamsteeker4394
      @terrylwamsteeker4394 Před rokem

      Don't forget to duct tape his mouth. Maybe we should just do the duct tape for court anyway. 😂

  • @ashleykane4951
    @ashleykane4951 Před rokem +13

    Lori, does not want to look at the photos, but she needs them engraved into her head, it is engraved in our minds the cruel and appalling things that were done to these poor innocent children & their spouses! I am still floored s to no one bringing up that chad was a grave digger and worked for a cemetery!!

  • @brinaouderkirk2019
    @brinaouderkirk2019 Před rokem +15

    I didn’t even know these 2 babies but this as a mother breaks me 😢 trying so hard to not cry after every detail I’m so sorry to the family 😢

  • @brucecheever7136
    @brucecheever7136 Před rokem +2

    There is no defense, only an attorney making a fool of himself

  • @karenalford-willett6205
    @karenalford-willett6205 Před rokem +6

    The sketch artist has really come into her own. She has captured the emotions (or lack of) in the courtroom. I appreciate her work. I would love her to capture the audience especially you, Nate.

  • @dulipedu
    @dulipedu Před rokem +4

    what in the world was the defense counsel thinking when objecting to the autopsy photographs???

  • @hellekimery9537
    @hellekimery9537 Před rokem +7

    One had hoped the kids was not aware what was happening,but it doesn’t sound like it 😪

  • @amykrzyszton5758
    @amykrzyszton5758 Před rokem +3

    Going off things I've seen in movies is possibly the dumbest thing an attorney can say....credibility gone to shit there.

  • @kaylalaroque3038
    @kaylalaroque3038 Před rokem +3

    Should take lori down the the morgue and have her sit in a room with her children
    Maybe have her last memory of them be just as impactful as it is to everyone having to see and hear about it that loved those babies

  • @PFerdiNanT
    @PFerdiNanT Před rokem +9

    good that LVallow is to listen to THAT too 😱

  • @tambojo1554
    @tambojo1554 Před rokem +5

    I don't know how you could have lunch after this pathologist testified .After hearing and seeing this, I would need a pack of cigarettes and a couple of shots of wiskey..Horrible to hear, let alone see his pictures. I would definitely expect sleeplessness and nightmares .

  • @HeatherRose2023
    @HeatherRose2023 Před rokem +7

    Would love to see Lori take the stand like Alex Murdaugh, si rhe jury can hear her lunacy for themselves.

  • @peachspeaks
    @peachspeaks Před 10 měsíci +1

    Shoutout for East Idaho News. Seriously we the other people are so grateful to have the opportunity to be a part of the internet gallery. ❤❤❤

  • @z-licious
    @z-licious Před rokem +4

    Chad Daybell must have really hated Tylee to do what he did to her. Such disrespect and humiliation to her.

    • @gregthomas2448
      @gregthomas2448 Před rokem +1

      My heart breaks for Tylee she appeared in those pictures to love JJ more than anything especially showing more love than the wicked Lori. May Lori and Chad rot in hell for eternity.

  • @hellekimery9537
    @hellekimery9537 Před rokem +4

    My God, its gruesome 😪

  • @pattihawks353
    @pattihawks353 Před rokem +1

    Thanks, Nate!

  • @itsjus_tay5913
    @itsjus_tay5913 Před rokem +7

    I think it will be interesting to see if Chad tries to negotiate the DP off the table in exchange for the truth of what really happened?..Since Lori's defense is it was the men, I would like to see how Chad plays his hand moving forward.

    • @terrylwamsteeker4394
      @terrylwamsteeker4394 Před rokem

      It wouldn't make a bit of difference in Lori's trial unless he does this before closing arguments.

    • @itsjus_tay5913
      @itsjus_tay5913 Před rokem

      Very true. I feel like his lawyers were there to see how her trial is going to feel it out since we should be getting a date hopefully by next week. I feel like that would be his only option. It may be hard to "prove" Lori's involvement (conspiracy), but you cannot deny Chad's and Alex's. Now unless he and Lori believe he will be a martyr and this is the plan is another story.

    • @heatherbeach4696
      @heatherbeach4696 Před rokem

      Let's hope someone tells the truth!
      Unfortunately Chad the "lizard demon" idt he has it in him...😮

  • @JJ-vh8ex
    @JJ-vh8ex Před rokem +2

    Why was her body burned but not his? That seems like Chad was trying to hide something

  • @ladiva915
    @ladiva915 Před rokem +3

    This is the most gruesome horrible case I have ever heard. Poor babies 😥😥😥 I wonder what the monster Lori is thinking while this man is talking!!!!! HORRIBLE

    • @Lady333333
      @Lady333333 Před rokem +1

      She is saying to herself “you don’t understand.’

    • @heatherbeach4696
      @heatherbeach4696 Před rokem

      She is completely detached and delusional!
      The few tears she supposedly shed, were an act imo... either that or she wiped a few tears away for herself!!
      I believe these pictures made her realize she's going down

  • @amivbg
    @amivbg Před rokem +5

    Mr Thomas from the defens makes me want to scream. He sounds like he's drunk or recently woken up. He's slurring.....very hard to listen to.

  • @source2950
    @source2950 Před rokem +1

    A defense lawyer agreeing to disagree with a fully trained and experienced forensic pathologist 😂😂😂

  • @SEABIRDSYMPHONY
    @SEABIRDSYMPHONY Před rokem +4

    I don't know if anybody else has noticed through this trial, but it seems like that alarm goes off when there's details spoken about the kids and specifically and more so Tylee. 😮

    • @Granny06
      @Granny06 Před rokem

      I hope Lori has to listen to every detail of the murder of her children and the condition her childrens remains were in when they were finally found.

  • @debidriscoll8108
    @debidriscoll8108 Před rokem +2

    The jurors can't get a full understanding with black and white photos

  • @tintin7013
    @tintin7013 Před rokem +4

    Is it only me, who thinks the defense Att. Is a pain in the butt? They anbringen me so bad

  • @cheri177
    @cheri177 Před rokem +3

    The images SHOULD BE SHOWN IN ALL THE HORROR THAT CHILD
    SUFFERED so that the jury will be able to TRULY FEEL
    RIGHTEOUS ANGER

    • @heatherbeach4696
      @heatherbeach4696 Před rokem

      Imo, the defense trying to wiggle out of the autopsy photos being shown is laughable!!!
      To top it off Lori has the audacity to ask if she can leave the courtroom?
      Are you kidding me? I mean, she does realize why she's in that chair right? She conspired to kill them! And even if she was absent from the scene where they were shamelessly murdered SHE knew dam well what was happening!😮😢 there are no words for what kind of person she is! If she call even be referred to as a human being

  • @paulacarlyle4223
    @paulacarlyle4223 Před rokem +11

    Air, …air is what you need to avoid asphyxiation

  • @chrissiebabe234
    @chrissiebabe234 Před rokem +5

    Coolest replies ever to dumbest of dumb questions.

  • @viperblack6290
    @viperblack6290 Před rokem +4

    Pathologist states scratches found on neck were a red flag, J.J. might have been trying to get the bag off his head 😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

    • @Penguins34455
      @Penguins34455 Před rokem

      That was the case. There was a struggle, meaning that sweet little J.J. tried to free himself but he suffocated in the process 😢

  • @debidriscoll8108
    @debidriscoll8108 Před rokem +2

    The defense doesn't want the jury to see what Lori and Chad did

  • @julieallen6622
    @julieallen6622 Před rokem +3

    Gosh this man is ultra intelligent

  • @Jem395
    @Jem395 Před rokem +2

    The defense attorney seems a little dense. And he's rude to the pathologist. He is trying and failing to discredit the doctor, but he managed to discredit his own self. Rude and dense is not a good combination.

  • @annette2326
    @annette2326 Před rokem +1

    What was that narcissistic monster of a mother doing during this testimony? Omg!

  • @christinadepina3540
    @christinadepina3540 Před rokem +3

    might be a stretch but i just started rewatching how to get away with murder and i’m overwhelmed with the creepy feeling that those idiots replicated sam keating’s death with poor tylee. episode 1:9 shows sam being bludgeoned, burned, dismembered and then put into black bags. idk why but after what we’ve heard abt alex, chad and lori; i can see them believing the show and it’s title could help them complete their mission. it’s really a tragedy to see a mom who can take part in such evil in the supposed name of god. may the lord bless and allow rest to tylee’s beautiful soul and for jj as well poor babies🥺

  • @mandi75
    @mandi75 Před rokem +2

    Maybe the defense attorney was looking for a way to try and blame Co-Vid as the cause of death of JJ? Guess they have to grasp at straws… there’s absolutely no defense for these horrific actions!

  • @margmckay3257
    @margmckay3257 Před rokem +2

    You wouldn’t consider doing this to a dog! Bound hand and foot with duct tape and over his mouth. Evil monster.

  • @chrissyart7984
    @chrissyart7984 Před rokem +4

    So What Dr Warren is telling us all, that the Children Where Drugged, What Discusting Coward Would do Such a thing?Only Evil Monster Work in Such Heinous Ways!!!!RIP 2 BEAUTIFUL ANGELS JJ👼⚘🙏🕊➕& TYLEE👼⚘🙏🕊➕

  • @michellematas6532
    @michellematas6532 Před rokem +7

    I heard this before about the cross... so let's me get this straight... the defense has more knowledge based on Hollywood hmm to quote Trump YOUR FIRED!!

  • @eleniskouridi6567
    @eleniskouridi6567 Před rokem +1

    I don't understand why would it be inappropriate to view the photographs on the big monitor? It's the REALITY of what those two CHILDREN have been through, what SOMEBODY did to them!!!!!!!!!

  • @michaellazzeri2069
    @michaellazzeri2069 Před rokem +3

    I forced myself to hear all of this. i did it as if I too, were a juror. i also did it, trying to keep an open mind. This is just beyond gruesome. my heart is sick with grief for these 2 innocent children. There was just NO need for these murders ! There is NO justification. The Woodcocks stated many times they were willing to take these children off of Lori's hands. So, why murder ? It has to be out of sheer ------without mitigation ----- greed & rage. The only remedy we have is DEATH. if anyone meets this remedy it is, for certain, Lori Vallow .She was their Mother ------she HAD to be fully aware of the deaths of her 2 children. She bears full legal, & without doubt, moral responsibility for these unspeakable deaths. --------MJL, 76 y/o

    • @LollieVox
      @LollieVox Před 10 měsíci

      I totally hear you on this-
      Money is the only real reasons for Chad Daybell to be able to complete his cult mission & she was with him hook line & sinker.

  • @catalinababy6068
    @catalinababy6068 Před rokem +4

    RIP JJ AND TYLEE
    HOPE TO MEET U ONE DAY
    WHEN JESUS COMES BACK
    😭🙏🕊️

    • @Penguins34455
      @Penguins34455 Před rokem

      Jesus doesn’t exist as how could he let this evil happen?!

  • @teraallan
    @teraallan Před rokem +3

    I think they gave him NyQuil (which has alcohol as an ingredient) to knock him out. I believe Lori carried him over to Alex’s apartment where they killed him together. One put duck tape on his mouth and then held his arms down while the other put the bag over his head and duck taped it around his head.

  • @barbmurray8557
    @barbmurray8557 Před rokem +1

    Please explain the trauma to tylee pelvic area

  • @AmyJo921
    @AmyJo921 Před rokem +2

    36:10- 36:25
    “Chads trying so hard to get in.” 😂😂😂

  • @sweethomealamanda
    @sweethomealamanda Před rokem +5

    With all the whispers that these sensitive mics pick up, at approx 36:20 does anyone hear the phrase "Chad's trying so hard to get in," like I heard with earbuds? Of course I don't know who is saying it and I could be wrong on exactly what is being said, but it happened right after the microphones stopped some really bad, eerie feedback. I thought someone may have been sarcastically saying it since Chad believes in "portals" and teleporting his being from place to place... Lol. 🙄😉
    Good day all, hold your loved ones tight! ❤️

    • @rexlace0nervobic
      @rexlace0nervobic Před rokem +1

      I was hearing something like this too and there was a sort of snigger following. Don't know what it means though

    • @jenniferhansen3622
      @jenniferhansen3622 Před rokem +1

      I heard it too. And then I heard another voice say "yeah" and then snicker.

    • @sweethomealamanda
      @sweethomealamanda Před rokem +2

      I thought so too! Of course I could be wrong on the actual saying, but it sure does sound like that is what was said. Y'all have a good night!

    • @jenniferhansen3622
      @jenniferhansen3622 Před rokem

      @@sweethomealamanda Thank you. I hope you have a good evening too.😊

    • @SmallWindow-BigView
      @SmallWindow-BigView Před rokem

      So unprofessional. I am surprised they weren’t called out for it!

  • @margmckay3257
    @margmckay3257 Před rokem +5

    How many more concessions is this Judge going to give to the Defense? Looks like they are running the show for Lori. Sidebars etc audio visuals etc. I wish this circus was over and done with and Lori either euthanised or locked up until she no longer breathes the same air as the rest of us. As this goes on it becomes more difficult to contemplate the suffering of Tylee and JJ. May she suffer from lack of air like JJ. In prison she will be viewed as a child killer and suffer the consequences of prison justice.

    • @barbmurray8557
      @barbmurray8557 Před rokem +1

      No. Making sure they can't appeal

    • @heatherbeach4696
      @heatherbeach4696 Před rokem

      She will be I protective custody P.C & Most likely have 0 prison justice!
      Murderers, chomos, & rapists!
      Ya know with her kind! Pathetic monsters

  • @kabbystevens5167
    @kabbystevens5167 Před rokem +15

    Tammy was an unattended death…why no autopsy?

    • @nonmihiseddeo4181
      @nonmihiseddeo4181 Před rokem +7

      Family said they didn't want one.

    • @lynnegackstetter2779
      @lynnegackstetter2779 Před rokem +7

      Chad said no autopsy. Wonder what they found when it was finally done.

    • @nwad8054
      @nwad8054 Před rokem +10

      @@lynnegackstetter2779 asphyxiation

    • @TaRa_K
      @TaRa_K Před rokem +14

      ​@@nonmihiseddeo4181I cant believe that's even an option.. especially in sudden deaths...terrifying that it came so close to never being determined what really happened to her..😣 hopefully justice will come soon..

    • @NormanBatesNumbers
      @NormanBatesNumbers Před rokem +7

      Especially given how many people to whom Chad "prophesized" her death, how she had been suspiciously shot at from someone in a vehicle (she thought it was a paint ball gun?), her life insurance, and Chad's affair with Lori and all the "dark" ratings Chad was characterizing her as.
      Charles tried to warn her and reach out to her, but underestimated Lori's sociopathy and warned/threatened Lori that Charles would be contacting Tammy, so Chad and/or Lori likely were able to prebunk or intercept and delete some or all of the messages and contact efforts by Charles once he figured out Lori was sending fake emails to Tammy pretending to be Charles and others providing invitations of work and employment so that Chad & Lori could hook up without Tammy realizing what Chad was up to ...

  • @cheri177
    @cheri177 Před rokem +1

    What's with people laughing in court room...disgusting...

  • @northerngirl4666
    @northerngirl4666 Před rokem +1

    I was waiting for the defence to ask: are you sure it was a white plastic bag? How do you know the bag used to be pink and turned white? Are you sure JJ is dead? Desperate, seriously inane questions. And then quoting a movie he saw as the expertise this experienced pathologist should have used instead of his knowledge. Insane.

  • @rebeccaswift7588
    @rebeccaswift7588 Před rokem +4

    I can't stand Thomas. He asks stupid questions that don't help the def at all..why bother?..he's condescending and rude!..

    • @cheri177
      @cheri177 Před rokem

      The public SHOULD be able to view those photographs and the juriors SHOULD BE ABLE to see these photos in large format to view the incredible horrific death J J endured by that MONSTER....

  • @raysha9932
    @raysha9932 Před rokem

    The audios are killing me we need better quality audio for these videos

  • @kaydencegauthier3857
    @kaydencegauthier3857 Před rokem

    That poor child must of been so scared

  • @charliebyerly3931
    @charliebyerly3931 Před 7 měsíci

    Defense trying to blame death on microplastics on the bag, which was duct taped over his head as cause of death... What an idiot!

  • @cocosurgerow
    @cocosurgerow Před rokem +2

    Did he have his medicine in his body ?

  • @patriciaoconnell488
    @patriciaoconnell488 Před měsícem

    Gresume details. Hope the jury convicts. And are not too traumatized by the testimony of Dr.

  • @illegallyblonde232
    @illegallyblonde232 Před rokem

    Tooooooo many commercials omg every minute there'd a commercial. Makes it unwatchable ffs

  • @patriciafoster3347
    @patriciafoster3347 Před 4 měsíci

    They should have put a huge photo of Chad and Lori on the large screen during this testimony.

  • @northerngirl4666
    @northerngirl4666 Před rokem +2

    What would the defence object to colour photographs? That’s how those poor children were murdered … in full colour. Is he trying to somehow minimize the horror? He can’t fool anyone. In black or white or colour, the murders were real.

  • @julieallen6622
    @julieallen6622 Před rokem

    Awful just heartbreakingly awful!for all involved excellent witness though

  • @Sodi_Pop.
    @Sodi_Pop. Před rokem +4

    Lori should be made to watch this and tortured until she admits her exact part. And I hate to say that because I’m a Christian woman 😩 But for the love of those children, who could EVER ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN?!?!! And in the name of Jesus??? Blasphemy! I just can’t comprehend this 😭😭

    • @northerngirl4666
      @northerngirl4666 Před rokem

      Not surprised a Christian recommends torture … religious people can be the most horrible, righteous people around. They do all kinds of horrible things but say it’s ok. god made them do it. You and Lori and chad have much in common. Poor deluded you.

  • @kiki29073
    @kiki29073 Před rokem +1

    The definition an attended death is also laughable. Doctors are really near a person when the die in a hospital unless they have coded out and a team has tried to recover them. Most in hospital deaths are either alone, with a friend or family member or at times a nurse of some sort including aides.

    • @joelmelissam
      @joelmelissam Před rokem

      It’s not just that. My mother died of ALS. She was under the care of her primary care Dr as well as a palliative care team at home. They provided documentation so that when she passed away, at home, we wouldn’t have to endure police/autopsy etc. stating that her death was expected...