LEAVING NEVERLAND | True Geordie Podcast

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  • Leaving Neverland is a 2019 documentary film focusing on Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who describe their experiences meeting Michael Jackson and make several allegations about the singer. The film is directed and produced by the British filmmaker Dan Reed.
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  • @lf9921
    @lf9921 Před 5 lety +6104

    This podcast of just you 2 needs to happen more often

  • @MonkeyMelissa3
    @MonkeyMelissa3 Před 5 lety +1407

    Thank you Brian for opening up about your experience no matter how small you think it might be, it’s not something you should be embarrassed about and hopefully loads of young lads feel like they can talk about their experiences

    • @williamgalloway4798
      @williamgalloway4798 Před 5 lety +31

      Took the words out of my mouth. When you here someone your a fan off talk about experiences that they've had, it makes you realise that horrific things like this are much more common than you think.

    • @MonkeyMelissa3
      @MonkeyMelissa3 Před 5 lety +33

      William Galloway they’re also so normalised and it’s wrong, some kids might watch this and have experienced it and not even realised it was abuse

    • @j24zog9
      @j24zog9 Před 5 lety +2

      What’s ur insta b

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety

      He’s innocent. I’m not even a fan of Michael Jackson, but as as sexual assault survivor myself, I know he is 100% innocent.

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety

      @@MonkeyMelissa3 Michael Jackson is innocent. I’m not even a fan of Michael Jackson, but as as sexual assault survivor myself, I know he is 100% innocent.

  • @boomboomboomiwantyouinmyro5301

    I see Bryan as a more manly man for sharing his story

  • @scarlettluty7228
    @scarlettluty7228 Před 4 lety +442

    “Michael has a good childhood “ mate he was beaten by his dad.

    • @pommiebears
      @pommiebears Před 4 lety +77

      Scarlett Luty yeah...he was abused terribly. His dad was a monster. I don’t know what to think about this documentary that came out. I do know a few of the things said can’t be true, Safechuck made allegations about being abused at the station in there, but that can’t be true due to the fact that the neverland train station wasn’t built when he said he was abused there. That made me question all of it.

    • @carnuatus
      @carnuatus Před 4 lety +7

      @@pommiebears you are aware that memory is super dodgy, right?

    • @rondo.ogb116
      @rondo.ogb116 Před 4 lety +16

      Jex G so is the guys that accused Micheal raped them then......

    • @Akkayy
      @Akkayy Před 3 lety +29

      James Pond it’s not true, their parents told them to lie for money. Watch Square one

    • @Akkayy
      @Akkayy Před 3 lety +22

      James Pond The first accuser was not acc molested. He was drugged by his dad when he said it. Just watch square one or lies of leaving Neverland. James and Wade were just broke and did it for p’s

  • @CrazeeAsh
    @CrazeeAsh Před 5 lety +1110

    Thanks for sharing your story Brian, It can’t have been easy! You never know who’s listening in the shadows, who you could have given the courage to confront their own trauma. Thank you for standing up for victims 🙏🏻 you’re a top bloke ❤️

  • @MRAnonymous120
    @MRAnonymous120 Před 5 lety +2315

    Petition for the Food Reviewer on the TG Podcast🙌

  • @mokhattab223
    @mokhattab223 Před 5 lety +382

    Happily my Idols when I was a child were all cartoon characters 😂

  • @callummadin612
    @callummadin612 Před 5 lety +963

    Could you do a podcast on Madeline mccan and your opinion please

  • @Becs.Mitchell
    @Becs.Mitchell Před 5 lety +958

    24:00 wow. You're so strong for sharing your story Brian. There's something about your favorite CZcamsr experiencing something similar to me (without publicly going into detail) that just makes me feel not alone anymore. Thank you for having the courage to share your story. I know you probably won't see this but thank you ❤

    • @Alex-uy7cz
      @Alex-uy7cz Před 5 lety +23

      Rebecca Mitchell hope you’re alright

    • @Becs.Mitchell
      @Becs.Mitchell Před 5 lety +24

      @@Alex-uy7cz I am ❤ thank you.

    • @goofyahhh254
      @goofyahhh254 Před 5 lety +2

      45 likes oo

    • @22percival
      @22percival Před 5 lety +18

      Hope you’re okay and not suffering with that experience alone. Listen to what Brian said closely because he’s spot on, you did nothing wrong and it’s always easier when you speak out and no one would think any differently of you. Don’t suffer alone. ❤️

    • @linovra
      @linovra Před 4 lety +2

      *25:13

  • @BeforeThisNovember
    @BeforeThisNovember Před 5 lety +2418

    True or not; any parent that let's their child go for sleepovers round an adults house, no less an adult accused of being a pedophile, has failed as a parent.
    Being starstruck is not good enough of an excuse.

    • @danlydiate123
      @danlydiate123 Před 5 lety +93

      I do agree completely with you but Jackson was the master of manipulation and really used his fame to gain the family trust, but of course that's not really much of an excuse

    • @sr212787
      @sr212787 Před 5 lety +32

      Accused and unequivocally proven innocent!

    • @richardkovacs2006
      @richardkovacs2006 Před 5 lety +16

      Be absolutely certain: there was just ONE MJ. His type is once in a lifetime miracle won't happen in the next century.

    • @richardkovacs2006
      @richardkovacs2006 Před 5 lety +9

      @@danlydiate123 how do you knkw that? From the movie. No sane person takes accusations at face value.

    • @nonaking1
      @nonaking1 Před 5 lety +15

      @@jayesalonso7328 Yes... but the babysitters did not sleep in the same bed!

  • @Arun-nv8zi
    @Arun-nv8zi Před 5 lety +634

    "Another kid accusing Michael Jackson is like a another dead white girl turning up at O.J. Simpson's house." - Chris Rock

    • @ralb2857
      @ralb2857 Před 5 lety +106

      Or you could say “Why work when you can sue Michael Jackson?”
      - Tom Mesereau

    • @Arun-nv8zi
      @Arun-nv8zi Před 5 lety +51

      @@ralb2857 You could say that for sure. I was a huge fan of Michael Jackson growing up but the testimony of Robson and Safechuck is too convincing for me to doubt the truth any longer. The world will always be divided between those that believe Michael was a paedophile and those that do not. No one really knows except the boys themselves and Michael, wherever he is, heaven or hell.

    • @ralb2857
      @ralb2857 Před 5 lety +59

      @@Arun-nv8zi i knew LEAVING neverland is a BS when Macaulay Culkin someone who snitched on his own father for abuse, still defends MJ ! When Robson claimed to have been left alone on his second night in Neverland while his family went to grand canyon, despite official court transcripts for his, his mother's and his sister's sworn declaration stating he went away with them

    • @ralb2857
      @ralb2857 Před 5 lety +19

      and many many many other lies............................

    • @marmary5555
      @marmary5555 Před 4 lety +45

      @@Arun-nv8zi do you believe time travel and teletransporation is real?
      Because anyone believing the incredible testimonies of Safechuck (claiming he was "raped" by MJ in a train station that did not exist) and Robson (claiming to be in Grand Canyon and Neverland at the same time) is validating utter bullshit and falsely accusing a dead, exonerated innocent man.

  • @nocturnojake8145
    @nocturnojake8145 Před 5 lety +34

    What I love about Brian and Laurence is the fact that they evaluate both sides of the argument instead of just telling their opinions. Obviously their opinions are a significant part of their podcasts but I like how they explain the psychological side of the controversy.

    • @ethanjoce886
      @ethanjoce886 Před 11 měsíci

      If they looked at the facts then they would’ve had a different outcome. Mj has been proven innocent countless of times yet these pair of twats can’t look at simple facts that have diss proven the shitty “leaving neverland”

    • @user-ub5hq1rd8e
      @user-ub5hq1rd8e Před 6 měsíci +1

      No they didn't. They didn't talk about the statements the accusers said they just believed the accusers with not fact checking the accusations.

  • @eichbdani
    @eichbdani Před 5 lety +497

    Very strong podcast guys, having a public conversation about this heavy topic knowing that some people will get upset with you shows that you are genuinely trying to help! Also props to uploading a lot of content past few days 🙌🏼

    • @katiegreen5469
      @katiegreen5469 Před 5 lety +4

      Actors can be deceiving, and convincing evidence does not lie people do and say check and Wade are known Liars

    • @katiegreen5469
      @katiegreen5469 Před 5 lety +3

      Weird strange does not make you a pedophile

    • @yoshi9706
      @yoshi9706 Před 2 lety +2

      Theres already many lies found on the documentary

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety +2

      He’s innocent. I’m not even a fan of Michael Jackson, but as as sexual assault survivor myself, I know he is 100% innocent.

    • @yoshi9706
      @yoshi9706 Před 2 lety

      @@xxjoeyladxx yup

  • @Aaron-pt9fu
    @Aaron-pt9fu Před 5 lety +1932

    Ye should do research on madelein mcCann kidnapping and do a podcast around that sone very interesting details when you get into it

  • @ThePeacheegal
    @ThePeacheegal Před 2 lety +16

    When you speak of victims, I just want to thank you so very much for your respect and for giving us a voice! The PTSD is real and it takes a very very long time to be brave enough to speak up or do anything against anyone because of what you've been told and conditioned to do. Just because you put on a mask doesn't mean the face underneath isn't crying, frightened, and bruised. I appreciate you speaking out, I know how hard it was for you Brian and I have so much respect for you. Thank you all for this look and voice...God bless

    • @V1LL1N
      @V1LL1N Před 2 lety +1

      I am happy you shared this. Thanks for encouraging bravery and acceptance.

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety

      I am a survivor of sexual abuse and I'm not a Jackson fan. I believe he is innocent.

  • @moonchild66
    @moonchild66 Před rokem +5

    This is a very important conversation to have....totally love you both....Brians bravery to spk out and his pure raw honesty!!! Love and empathy is awesome❤

  • @EasyJayce
    @EasyJayce Před 5 lety +971

    Id love to see you do a Michael Documentary like you did with Mcgregor and Kanye, it’d be amazing for sure

    • @leelee_1989
      @leelee_1989 Před 5 lety +4

      I wouldn't leave him alone the guy is dead

    • @peterawale1167
      @peterawale1167 Před 5 lety +1

      Wasn't a podcast lol

    • @EasyJayce
      @EasyJayce Před 5 lety +2

      @@Al_o_bri Have you seen there Kanye and McGregor doc's bro? They ain't even similar in the slightest to HBO's XD and being dead literally doesn't change a thing. That just means theres even more info to cover cos he lived his whole life

    • @Al_o_bri
      @Al_o_bri Před 5 lety +3

      JAYCE yeah I have and I know what you mean but I’d rather he put the effort into something else, not a doc about a pedo when they just spent 45 minutes talking about it

    • @aaronrobertson3297
      @aaronrobertson3297 Před 5 lety +1

      Just watch Leaving Neverland

  • @alanmyr1507
    @alanmyr1507 Před 5 lety +1878

    Well this brings a new meaning to *smooth criminal*

    • @alexc7857
      @alexc7857 Před 5 lety +145

      Don't forget the song "just beat it"

    • @ApocalypseNowWithEli
      @ApocalypseNowWithEli Před 5 lety +25

      why .?? That’s what Dirty Diana said.

    • @Jules-eu6vn
      @Jules-eu6vn Před 5 lety +3

      Oooooooof

    • @dantdt4693
      @dantdt4693 Před 5 lety +24

      And I’m bad

    • @XenoTravis
      @XenoTravis Před 5 lety +59

      Damn.... DAMN I didn't think about it. What if he actually wrote those songs with that shit in mind.

  • @beebeelicious
    @beebeelicious Před 5 lety +349

    You have discussed this bravely and intelligently. Thanks, from one survivor to another XX.

    • @Bobbypoorwife
      @Bobbypoorwife Před 4 lety +4

      Bec Moran don’t think they met MJ

    • @suzanneillingworth8692
      @suzanneillingworth8692 Před 4 lety +1

      I really wondered about his upbringing...... think may be he was rightly accused

    • @Childmo_Lester
      @Childmo_Lester Před 2 lety +1

      This is just one big mixup. i'm innocent i swear!

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety +3

      He’s innocent. I’m not even a fan of Michael Jackson, but as as sexual assault survivor myself, I know he is 100% innocent.

    • @torzae9234
      @torzae9234 Před rokem +1

      @@Childmo_Lester mj innocent

  • @katechopin6698
    @katechopin6698 Před 4 lety +258

    I would love to see you reviewing prince andrew interview

    • @lennymice2261
      @lennymice2261 Před 4 lety +12

      That interview reviews itself. It was the TV highlight of the year for me.

    • @slaws2279
      @slaws2279 Před 3 lety +2

      lol yeah

  • @QEnKA1989
    @QEnKA1989 Před 5 lety +538

    Finally someone who has said the parents are responsible!!! Famous or not when my children were small I would NEVER allow them anywhere near an adults bedroom. Brilliant video guys 🙂

    • @andrewsimmonds4770
      @andrewsimmonds4770 Před 5 lety +13

      Emma Hogger I agree 100% with you

    • @quentonlennon7233
      @quentonlennon7233 Před 4 lety +41

      That makes them negligent, not responsible. MJ was responsible.

    • @based7900
      @based7900 Před 4 lety +26

      The parents was not responsible for the actions that a different person has done, they could have prevented it but they aren’t responsible

    • @damiencallaghan9389
      @damiencallaghan9389 Před 4 lety +1

      JOE Jackson whipped ALL his children but Jermaine and Janet turned out OK

    • @duanedibbley258
      @duanedibbley258 Před 4 lety +4

      Damien CALLAGHAN sometimes when people are shot they turn out fine

  • @nikkiburgess7907
    @nikkiburgess7907 Před 5 lety +31

    Laurence and Brian are two of the most switched on, thought provoking and genuine youtubers on the platform. The way you both articulate the topics and share your experience in a vulnerable and honest way is amazing. Keep doing what you’re doing lads, we all respect you for it ❤️

  • @paoroliaz1207
    @paoroliaz1207 Před 5 lety +8

    Great discussion between you two, evaluating the context of the times really adds more understanding to how this happened . Well done.

  • @mrbritishguyesq2846
    @mrbritishguyesq2846 Před 3 lety +22

    I really do think geordie is a very reflective and insightful person. He is candid and honest and obviously a very intelligent man. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

    • @1991ltd
      @1991ltd Před 3 lety +1

      Just because he tries to sound intelligent and like he knows what he's talking about doesn't mean he is. The extent of his knowledge on this is what he heard in the documentary, nothing more....its painfully clear when he's talking about it

    • @user-ub5hq1rd8e
      @user-ub5hq1rd8e Před 6 měsíci

      I didn't think that in this videos

  • @PoohhNani
    @PoohhNani Před 5 lety +146

    Lawrence is so brilliant. Its something you dont see often when hes focused on interviewing someone else. But when hes just talking about whatever, you can really hear the brilliance he has.

    • @goranbasar1675
      @goranbasar1675 Před 5 lety +7

      Lawrence is brilliant but I prefer True Gordie's intellect/point of views, I can relate.

    • @georgepark6125
      @georgepark6125 Před 5 lety +2

      I relate to Lawrence in discussions like this he talks less about more than the single topic he talks about everything around it. I know Brian does that but Lawrence seems to do it greater

    • @jackyoung7097
      @jackyoung7097 Před 4 lety

      George Park i didn’t enjoy his manner in the Dan Bilzerian podcast

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety +3

      He’s innocent. I’m not even a fan of Michael Jackson, but as as sexual assault survivor myself, I know he is 100% innocent.

    • @suprememarcus6587
      @suprememarcus6587 Před 2 lety

      @@xxjoeyladxx who

  • @LittleIrishLad101
    @LittleIrishLad101 Před 5 lety +296

    Have to say, Laurence was on point in this podcast 👍🏻

    • @harrydoyle2304
      @harrydoyle2304 Před 5 lety +1

      Irishlad makes a change, doesn’t it

    • @michael5290
      @michael5290 Před 5 lety +3

      Harry Doyle No, he’s always the more insightful one tbh.

    • @thomasrevill1263
      @thomasrevill1263 Před 5 lety +1

      Harry Doyle just cos you’ll never be half as intellectual as him

    • @Locosy
      @Locosy Před 5 lety +1

      Thomas Revill What the fuck are you actually trying to say.

    • @dantdt4693
      @dantdt4693 Před 5 lety +1

      Irishlad are you kidding me is an idiot he thinks the vanity fair article was true even though it’s complete false which is true

  • @thethrowawaythatstayed7055
    @thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Před 5 lety +200

    You hit the nail on the head over and over again. As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse I truly thank you for this ep,

    • @donttalktome6878
      @donttalktome6878 Před 4 lety +26

      I'm so sorry to hear that. I mean I've never experienced it but it must be truly awful. Hope your ok. ❤

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety +12

      Michael Jackson was innocent, and I say that as a sexual assault survivor

    • @thethrowawaythatstayed7055
      @thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Před 2 lety +3

      @@donttalktome6878 thank you. not exactly ok (ptsd) but I have a fantastic support system when things do come up, so I’m very lucky in that way! ❤️

    • @Nuggetsin4
      @Nuggetsin4 Před 2 lety

      @@xxjoeyladxx no he wasn’t, and your status as a survivor is irrelevant when it comes to his pedophilia.

    • @Vaisin
      @Vaisin Před rokem +2

      It must have been awful, thankfully you must be doing a lot better and stronger than ever.
      I must say, however, that Leaving Neverland has been debunked and I honestly think MJ never abused anyone. My humble point of view.

  • @tjc89
    @tjc89 Před 5 lety +169

    As a youth worker, You always have to believe the child when they make an allegation. Obviously it gets investigated impartially/properly/professionally : But what upsets me most about this documentary is how many people do not listen or question the voices of young people. They are just as valid.

    • @pat0583
      @pat0583 Před 4 lety +36

      They are questioned because their statements have been contradicted so many times. I do not support sexual abuse obviously and I usually will try to side with the victim. However, for this case it does't make sense and it feels like a money grab. That's why I believe Michael is innocent. Well, atleast I feel Wade and James have never been touched.

    • @animavestra2388
      @animavestra2388 Před 3 lety +12

      watch SQUARE ONE it proves mj is innocent. Free on utube

    • @mrrobotvoice8321
      @mrrobotvoice8321 Před 3 lety +4

      Its not the kids its the parents that make me think the whole thing is bs

    • @PonzWasTaken
      @PonzWasTaken Před 3 lety +12

      @@mrrobotvoice8321 The parents left massive holes in it. James Safechuck's mother said that in 2009 when she found out that Michael had died she "danced around the room", except there's one issue - James confirmed that he didn't disclose his "abuse" to anybody until 2013. Blatant lie

    • @flyinggherkin41
      @flyinggherkin41 Před 3 lety +4

      @@PonzWasTaken no u idiot he said he did tell his mother before but only hinted at what happened enough for her to understand. He admitted what happened in 2013. Mj defenders make me sick

  • @ohneil4114
    @ohneil4114 Před 5 lety +122

    Always excited for a new True Geordie podcast. Keep up the good work mate 🙌🏼

  • @avacyn2000
    @avacyn2000 Před 5 lety +35

    What a brilliant podcast. Honestly you two working alone is pure class, you don't talk over each other. Big respect.

  • @StudioSamSmith
    @StudioSamSmith Před 5 lety +4

    Guys, you absolutely spanked it. This is an unbelievably complex issue and somehow you shed some light on it. Thank you. Incredible.

  • @welovepies
    @welovepies Před 5 lety +2

    brian this was so amazing, thank you for opening up it added so much to this podcast and its topic.

  • @tomg5187
    @tomg5187 Před 5 lety +47

    25:50 This sent goosebumps down my spine. I’m so sorry you experienced this. I can just picture your face. Thank you for sharing, so strong! I hope everyone recovers!

  • @ethanshackers5437
    @ethanshackers5437 Před 5 lety +300

    Do a podcast reacting to the new Madeline McCann Netflix special

    • @louisbines9563
      @louisbines9563 Před 5 lety +1

      Ethan Shackers is it out?!

    • @Rywar309
      @Rywar309 Před 5 lety +2

      @@louisbines9563 Tomorrow March 15th

    • @alexmarkham6534
      @alexmarkham6534 Před 5 lety +14

      There’s no point. They have to say one word. Parents

    • @Rywar309
      @Rywar309 Před 5 lety +1

      @@alexmarkham6534 pretty much

    • @taylorkmevery1428
      @taylorkmevery1428 Před 5 lety

      Heard They’re Reforming The DaWnGuArD no wY

  • @kieranive8763
    @kieranive8763 Před 5 lety +34

    so much respect for TG speaking on that personal experience. not sure id have the strength to say what you did in this if i was ever in that position, god forbid.

  • @finnsmom8470
    @finnsmom8470 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent Podcast on such an important topic! I am grateful that you discussed, with little to no reservations, the very ugly side of paedophilia, a crime which seems to be rampant, worldwide and associated with many powerful groups of individuals. Here in the US, rumours of powerful paedophiles working with children in Hollywood, are off the charts. Your open discussion, with “no holds barred”, needs set the standard and be a universal turning point for people to bring this horrific crime to an end! I appreciate your open and honest expressions regarding difficult topics, intermixed with your humour ......

  • @jochemraben4473
    @jochemraben4473 Před 5 lety +137

    I applaud you guys for this great podcast. A video like this is risky to put on, but you guys hit the nail on the head. You managed to stay respectful about this, and discussed everything in a very mature and thougtful way. Huge respect towards you guys.

    • @thethrowawaythatstayed7055
      @thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Před 5 lety +1

      Jochem Raben agree completely!

    • @Childmo_Lester
      @Childmo_Lester Před 2 lety +5

      Im innocent! I just loved little boys and got falsely accused my whole life of doing the same thing over and over again!
      It's just one big misunderstanding. I swear!

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx Před 2 lety +1

      MJ was innocent

    • @gifted2at94
      @gifted2at94 Před rokem +1

      @@Childmo_Lester Willfully blind that's a Jackson fan mandate for decades!

    • @goldentop6948
      @goldentop6948 Před 4 měsíci

      @@gifted2at94 regarding this leaving neverland, there are a dozen controversies and illogical claims. safechuck says he had "honeymoon" in 1988 with jackson at the euro disneyland, it wasnt even built then, and it was opened in 1992. wade's mother said she was dancing when jackson died cause "now he cant hurt anymore children". Wade and his mother also stated before, that wade didnt tell his mother about the abusive stuff ever up until 2013, which is 4 years after jackson died so how did wades mother had a dance? you should just read a bit more instead of just blatantly believing in a "docu" in which only 1 party says anything, and the whole thing is way more emotional than factual.

  • @patrickfernandes7790
    @patrickfernandes7790 Před 5 lety +137

    I remember being molested by my aunts husband when I was younger and I can fully understand Brian's difficulty to speak about the stuff that happened to him. It takes a lot of mental strength to get over this stuff.

    • @claireamphlett-thomas7057
      @claireamphlett-thomas7057 Před 5 lety +5

      Patrick Fernandes ❤️

    • @thaty7
      @thaty7 Před 5 lety +2

      thats true.

    • @vermary
      @vermary Před 5 lety +2

      Nothing happened to that con-artist

    • @mens123ladies
      @mens123ladies Před 5 lety +15

      But why are all these mj fans defending him it pisses me off

    • @mens123ladies
      @mens123ladies Před 5 lety +7

      vermary are you stupid? You know how traumatic it is. Clearly you would let your children sleep with a grown man for 30 days

  • @charliemahoney5638
    @charliemahoney5638 Před 4 lety +3

    I thought this was a great pod thanks for making my day lads

  • @FA8T
    @FA8T Před 2 lety +10

    Please do more discussions on Documentaries or on tv shows etc; it’s my favourite of your stuff

  • @toushea1984
    @toushea1984 Před 5 lety +20

    Such a good, and well thought out in depth intro, giving a background on the era at the time, and Michael himself! Props as always

  • @boneykingofsomewhere
    @boneykingofsomewhere Před 5 lety +13

    Well done Brian for coming out with your story, that came outta nowhere. Really glad nothing happened to you and i'm sure this will help people who have been through similar things speak about them to others, couldn't of been easy man.

  • @sagemode6
    @sagemode6 Před 5 lety +12

    I don't know who you guys are but i watched the whole podcast, really good. subbed.

    • @aspiknf
      @aspiknf Před 2 lety

      Wacko Jacko pretended to be you, but you're a better man than him, Wacko was Satan.

  • @MrJules1977
    @MrJules1977 Před 5 lety +5

    On another note, great video guys, its good to see some intelligent talk on the matter , its about time this subject was spoken about more often with more understanding of how these things happen, more awareness would help prevent more kids getting hurt and people getting help .

  • @SilentKiller-55
    @SilentKiller-55 Před 5 lety +79

    2 podcasts in less than a week, love your content, keep up the good work Brian 👍

  • @SilentKiller-55
    @SilentKiller-55 Před 5 lety +256

    25:13 Very interesting to hear your personal experience, you have a lot of courage sharing it publicly mate and I rate you for that highly, you're a good lad Brian 👍

    • @danielmarshall4587
      @danielmarshall4587 Před 4 lety +6

      It's a good level headed chat between two people. Most of these pod-casts are quite light hearted, however when the subject matter is like this they bring a fair and even view point.

  • @123rosebuds
    @123rosebuds Před 4 lety +5

    Thank You for covering this topic.

  • @evaan8262
    @evaan8262 Před 5 lety +99

    Thanks for sharing, appreciate bringing to discussion such a heavy topic. Abuse to children is a disease in our society.

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety

      It is, and Michael Jackson is 100% innocent, and I’m not even a Jackson fan.
      Nothing sickened Jackson more than abuse of children.

    • @narwhals7820
      @narwhals7820 Před rokem +2

      yeh cool but mj didnt abuse kids

    • @jessiem276
      @jessiem276 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@narwhals7820 Those boys were molested.

  • @TapDatFish
    @TapDatFish Před 5 lety +11

    Thank you guys for this truly remarkable the way you both talk deep about these cases in depth

  • @megansmith2181
    @megansmith2181 Před 5 lety +62

    You guys are ingenious, the way the documentary and the whole MJ situation was evaluated by you two, seemingly, with no notes blows my mind 👏🏼

  • @DDavy2014
    @DDavy2014 Před 5 lety +103

    The point they make about Macauley Culkin is so true and one I've thought of a lot.
    I 100% believe the accusers in the documentary regardless. But one thing the non-believers say which irritates me is 'he didn't abuse Macauley Culkin' and what's your point? Jack the Ripper didn't kill every women he spent time with, he chose victims. I know the comparison of Jack the Ripper and MJ may be strong but it's that sort of thing. Imagine how insulting and hurtful it would be to be an abuse victim and just have someone say to you ‘well he didn’t abuse me so you must be lying’.
    MJ was smart and I do genuinely think he befriended Culkin and intentionally didn't pursue any sexual abuse with him so he could have the cover of 'well ask Macauley Culkin.'
    Guys MJ was a phenomenal performer and musician. But don't let that blind you from his darkness.

    • @UncleJun50
      @UncleJun50 Před 5 lety +10

      Nail. Head. Bang on.

    • @BezoomnyBratchny
      @BezoomnyBratchny Před 5 lety +9

      The accusations of Jordan, Gavin, Wade and James are laughably bad but I 100% agree that its nonsensical to take Michael not molesting Macaulay Culkin (or Macaulay claiming that he didn't) and using it to conclude that he didn't molest anyone.

    • @Barbsilva
      @Barbsilva Před 5 lety +7

      I think he did abuse M Culkin too

    • @DDavy2014
      @DDavy2014 Před 5 lety +13

      BezoomnyBratchny imagine how offensive that would be to a genuine abuse victim. Someone saying ‘well he didn’t abuse me so you must be lying’. It’s preposterous

    • @BezoomnyBratchny
      @BezoomnyBratchny Před 5 lety +4

      @@DDavy2014
      Exactly.

  • @abdul-wahabellahi1783
    @abdul-wahabellahi1783 Před 5 lety +6

    Great podcast, I had a similar experience Thank God I wasn't abused but I easily could have been and I thought the world of that person. So I completely understand why it took so long for them to.come out and talk about this now. Subscribed

  • @twankzoid
    @twankzoid Před 5 lety +104

    You’re a brave man sharing that story Brian, it will have definitely helped so many suffering in silence out there. I’ll always love you big man, love to Laurence too x

    • @Tangentbordsblues
      @Tangentbordsblues Před 5 lety +1

      Yes very brave to tell about the time someone asked if he wanted to see a part of the body.

    • @thethrowawaythatstayed7055
      @thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Před 5 lety +1

      Owen Jeffries I’m a survivor. I really appreciated him opening up.

  • @meganwilliams8799
    @meganwilliams8799 Před 5 lety +9

    Thank you for sharing your story... as a victim myself I understand how hard it is to tell your story out loud. I’m hoping to find the strength to speak out one day☹️really good podcast 😊

  • @GM-yq5wk
    @GM-yq5wk Před 3 lety +4

    Not sure you pair will read this... but I just love where your going..and you given me inspiration to talk about my daughter's epilepsy and her struggles..let me say she is severe..as her Mum you given me a kick up the butt... thk u. I sm from Cov living in Florida but hope to chat about it....cheers guys

  • @karinafischer1041
    @karinafischer1041 Před 5 lety +12

    I have to watch it now.. I've just found your chanel.. also LOVE Brians' accent 😍

  • @seanlunt6593
    @seanlunt6593 Před 5 lety +5

    I have to say it lads yous have done a brilliant thing here!! Honestly well done!! To be so honest aswell on a massive channel like this I hope people who have been through shit can watch this and talk to people. Well done lads!!

  • @DemelzaYes
    @DemelzaYes Před 5 lety +8

    Geordie thank you so much for sharing that story about your babysitter man, that genuinely touched me, especially considering how hard it is to talk about these things. respect

  • @Johnsmithdkzmcbc
    @Johnsmithdkzmcbc Před 4 lety +62

    Do this on the Epstein Netflix documentary

  • @Srhdrk
    @Srhdrk Před 5 lety +8

    Excellent podcast, couldn’t agree more

  • @daveeaton5995
    @daveeaton5995 Před 5 lety +296

    I’ve literally just watched you uploads 3 videos over the 3 channels in a few minutes & my uploads take about 9 years for a 4 minute video

    • @marcuscaprano-wint9760
      @marcuscaprano-wint9760 Před 5 lety +1

      what was the 3rd channel? I know he did one on kick off what was other

    • @daveeaton5995
      @daveeaton5995 Před 5 lety +1

      Marcus Caprano-Wint TG2

    • @wilko9346
      @wilko9346 Před 5 lety +1

      scheduled release

    • @harveywright2710
      @harveywright2710 Před 5 lety

      He only released two videos, the TG2 video was two days ago

    • @Josh-gw4ys
      @Josh-gw4ys Před 5 lety +3

      You’ve obviously never heard of scheduled uploads ...

  • @Leo-tc1yf
    @Leo-tc1yf Před 5 lety +37

    True Geordie is honestly a professional at podcasts, he maintains his posture, great knowledge and tone of voice, makes it really entertaining to watch. Love it

  • @niamh111
    @niamh111 Před 5 lety +272

    I'm not gonna share my story, but this video made me feel not so alone💗

    • @Fisky-ww6ee
      @Fisky-ww6ee Před 5 lety +4

      niamh x Alex Turner ❤️🎸

    • @niamh111
      @niamh111 Před 5 lety +4

      Paul Fisk yeahhh💕

    • @gmc5618
      @gmc5618 Před 5 lety +10

      I'm glad hun xx it gets better I swear

    • @niamh111
      @niamh111 Před 5 lety +6

      GMc yeah it does x

    • @crazyhiphopp
      @crazyhiphopp Před 5 lety +5

      Same here bro xx

  • @MrTheBassline
    @MrTheBassline Před 5 lety +8

    This an amazing podcast, the best follow up on leaving neverland and a great in depth talk about similar topics. Good job.

  • @Outtet01
    @Outtet01 Před 5 lety +5

    Honestly, I love you two guys. Keep up the good work and keep uploading! Looking forward to the kick off this weekend!

  • @ja8078
    @ja8078 Před 5 lety +30

    Guys absolutely love the podcast, agree with the majority of the stuff you said. Think you should do more of just you two, keep it up boys!

  • @harisbilal373
    @harisbilal373 Před 3 lety +4

    We love you truegeordie we’re so proud of you for speaking up

  • @jeffsmyth3930
    @jeffsmyth3930 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent analysis of the documentary!

  • @zFlobzy
    @zFlobzy Před 5 lety +6

    The podcasts with just you two are brilliant. Perfect chemistry between you both. We love the guests but if there was a few extra ones of just you two having a chat it would be amazing!

  • @hollyrachels4295
    @hollyrachels4295 Před 5 lety +88

    I just wanted to let you guys know that you have an extremely rapidly growing Fanbase among women in the United States we love you and we love a good Brian and Lawrence podcast - we love the British

    • @crevesfan8215
      @crevesfan8215 Před 5 lety +11

      say what

    • @daveking6192
      @daveking6192 Před 5 lety +3

      I’d love for you to drink my Jesus juice

    • @tripleaaa4409
      @tripleaaa4409 Před 5 lety

      BRUH😂😂👇WTF DID THIS BITCH JUST SAY😩😩⁉️LMAO THIS SHIT HAD ME ROLLING👆💯👌NIGGA WHAT‼️😭😭😭👏

    • @randomsht9836
      @randomsht9836 Před 5 lety +1

      @@tripleaaa4409 wtf

    • @daveking6192
      @daveking6192 Před 5 lety +1

      Ben Johnson Well done 👏👏

  • @eyeop3n1ng
    @eyeop3n1ng Před 3 lety +1

    Love the pod lads keep it up

  • @CantWait-vb7wl
    @CantWait-vb7wl Před 3 lety +7

    This is such an amazing discussion. People need to talk about this type of abuse more often and get it out of the shadows.

    • @Akkayy
      @Akkayy Před 2 lety +3

      People can get falsely accused. Especially when you’re a celebrity.

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety +3

      There was no abuse here - Michael Jackson is 100% innocent and I’m not even a fan of his.

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety

      There was no abuse here - Michael Jackson is 100% innocent and I’m not even a fan of his.

  • @callmetiger7186
    @callmetiger7186 Před 5 lety +8

    Never clicked on a video so quick, been waiting for this since you announced it on True News, thanks boys

  • @jonmaio3229
    @jonmaio3229 Před 5 lety +5

    Appreciate the realism here guys. Very good podcast to listen to. I haven't seen the doc yet but I will now especially because of this so I can understand what went on and how to prevent this in the future.

  • @kayleighb3156
    @kayleighb3156 Před 5 lety +1

    Hello from a fellow Geordie!! I’ve only just found your channel and love it so far

  • @vroz8589
    @vroz8589 Před 2 lety +2

    Im loving these podcast crime thingys ... more please!!

  • @jadefarrell261
    @jadefarrell261 Před 5 lety +17

    Brilliant! You both are so very clever and a great team. Great podcast really enjoyed it spot on

  • @tr3ndkiller
    @tr3ndkiller Před 5 lety +5

    This has been your best podcast to date. Good job lads! And I agree with everything you said.

  • @margaretcoyle1653
    @margaretcoyle1653 Před 4 lety

    I’m a 74 year old nana I was in the thick of the whole Mersey bands never ever was there a world as bad as this thank you both for thinking the same as people like me there’s NO smoke without fire .i cannot believe there’s such badness god help us all an thank you for trying to expose sick freaks that expect us all to bow to them good luck x

    • @ShakShak1999
      @ShakShak1999 Před 4 lety +2

      You do know that leaving Neverland is fake right?

  • @sasafrass8186
    @sasafrass8186 Před 5 lety +8

    Excellent Podcast!! Great info, great pacing, great accents!!! As a podcast junkie I am very impressed and I look forward to viewing all of your podcasts!

  • @alexcav1131
    @alexcav1131 Před 5 lety +5

    Best podcast on CZcams! Keep it up Geordie inspiration.

  • @binks4763
    @binks4763 Před 5 lety +282

    Can you do the Madeline McCann documentary
    Like if u agree

    • @24SparrowJack
      @24SparrowJack Před 5 lety +4

      everyone knows the parents did it

    • @tomfenton3755
      @tomfenton3755 Před 5 lety +1

      @@24SparrowJack you are vile. Why would they kill their 3 year old daughter

    • @jamesholm3633
      @jamesholm3633 Před 5 lety +1

      top 10s they wouldn’t do the lie detector test

    • @bradleybell8549
      @bradleybell8549 Před 5 lety

      @@jamesholm3633 oh because they stand up in a court of law don't they🤦‍♂️

    • @binks4763
      @binks4763 Před 5 lety

      Imagine if they admit it on their death bed

  • @ellebelle2507
    @ellebelle2507 Před 2 lety +1

    This is a fantastic podcast, thanks guys :-)!

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety

      I’m not a Jackson fan, but I KNOW he was 100% innocent.
      As a sexual assault survivor myself, I find it disgusting that I was ignored but liars like Robson and Safechuck are believed.

  • @melanieD19127
    @melanieD19127 Před 5 lety +4

    You make good points. Thank you for this!!!

  • @BeavvvHD
    @BeavvvHD Před 5 lety +75

    Brian, once again you’ve hit the nail on the head. Hats off to you fella, very well said.

  • @zakorrell379
    @zakorrell379 Před 5 lety +10

    I swear true geordie is the most genuine guy on youtube and he and Lawrence should be the moral compass of youtube

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee Před 3 lety

      geordie would even tell you that thats no good. thats a big responsibility that isnt for two or three people. thats a group (human beings) moral duty

  • @Down-to_learn
    @Down-to_learn Před 4 lety +1

    Cant believe how far the channel as come a long From FIFA to POTCAST with some of the best gangsters and youtube you name it true Georgie will do it

  • @elainer811
    @elainer811 Před 5 lety +15

    Thank you so much for your conversation about LEAVING NEVERLAND. I was especially moved by your statement that Michael Jackson was in a once in a generational situation, having god status celebrity worship as a an innocent and at the same time being shrewd enough to cover up anything that would deter that image.

    • @barryscott8041
      @barryscott8041 Před 5 měsíci

      MJ was a brilliant musician and businessman, who made all the right moves and became wealthy beyond compare.....Yet today in 2023 I see his "Defenders" screaming at me: MJ was a Child! MJ was Naive! .........good Lord.

  • @TheKayls22
    @TheKayls22 Před 5 lety +90

    Great podcast guys. Guest suggestion, professor green. He's got stories to tell and is such a down to earth guy. He definitely wouldn't hold back

  • @CrowletYT
    @CrowletYT Před 5 lety +71

    I love these podcasts they always make me smile and brighten my day :) ty Brian and Lawrence

    • @smokesmokes4512
      @smokesmokes4512 Před 5 lety +25

      about michael jackson touching kids? abit weird mate but agree with the podcast.

    • @crossy8529
      @crossy8529 Před 5 lety +7

      So listening to somebody talking about someone messing with kids makes you smile and brightens your day?

    • @M_ullen
      @M_ullen Před 5 lety +3

      ItsNeko20 your welcome

    • @smokesmokes4512
      @smokesmokes4512 Před 5 lety

      Michael Kiddie Toucher Jackson 😂😂😂😂

  • @lunastar698
    @lunastar698 Před 5 lety +7

    Loved your discussion. Agree 100% with every single word.

    • @ralb2857
      @ralb2857 Před 5 lety +1

      If propaganda is long and intense, and everyone (false victims, the media, so-called experts, etc.) constantly speak of “abuse” at the hands of the alleged perpetrator, the brainwashed public will always find a way to defy facts and look for some crooked “explanation” even in the face of the overwhelming evidence that the story is a lie and all of it is just the illusion

  • @toby.mp3
    @toby.mp3 Před 5 lety +43

    I had literally been (and still am) suffering from depression and anxiety for 4 1/2 years (I have hinted at my anxiety to my mum, but not straight up told her or my dad) the only person who knows is my best friend who I have known for 9 1/2 years. Please know that you don’t have to suffer alone, tell people raise awareness and I know that it’s hard for people to speak out about it
    Not many people will see see this but if you do and are suffering please reply to this comment so that I don’t feel alone, if you’re not suffering please try to raise awareness and think yourself very lucky
    People are not happy all the time

    • @sacend1
      @sacend1 Před 4 lety +2

      be strong ELLIE
      LOVE

  • @Jon-yx3xc
    @Jon-yx3xc Před 5 lety +5

    Really good podcast lads, really great discussion- Think Lawrence smashed it in particular - credit to Geordie telling his story too - top work, and another great example of why I love your channel👌

  • @ethancansell4858
    @ethancansell4858 Před 5 lety +9

    You 2 literally got it spot on with the doc, it's impossible to fake that emotion

    • @xxjoeyladxx
      @xxjoeyladxx Před 2 lety +12

      I’m not even a Jackson fan and I know everything Robson and Safechuck said is fake, it’s obvious from their body language.
      Jackson was a kind, pure soul who would never dream of harming a child.

    • @idakev
      @idakev Před 2 lety

      @@xxjoeyladxx He hung his own baby over a balcony. lol

  • @maxl9096
    @maxl9096 Před 3 lety +5

    LOL 2020, anyone else ? Long live Corona, I have nearly watched and listend to every episode in the last 3-4 Months 😂

  • @milaplato4436
    @milaplato4436 Před 5 lety +6

    2nd time I have watched this now- perfect intelligent response.

  • @308AlYsSa0034
    @308AlYsSa0034 Před 5 lety +6

    My ABSOLUTE favorite recap and ending opinions on the overall situation and who he was and how different a perception can be compared to reality of who a person is as soon as you shut the lights off and their smile drops and their demons flush out. You did it in a very classy way, yet still said everything ive been screaming at the screen with the nay sayers for days now.
    Thank you. So much. Love your podcast

    • @richardkovacs2006
      @richardkovacs2006 Před 5 lety +1

      And none of it proves that MJ actually was THAT different behind closed doors. Speculation is no proof. Neither is accusation. No sane person takes ANY accusation at face value.

  • @AustralianMotorsportClassics

    “You know I’m bad,
    I’m bad, you know it.”
    Michael Jackson

    • @GeorgeKiernan
      @GeorgeKiernan Před 5 lety +2

      He confessed

    • @grandmastaal
      @grandmastaal Před 5 lety +7

      Smooth criminal

    • @kopite-qf3ez
      @kopite-qf3ez Před 5 lety +3

      @@grandmastaal annie was not ok she was probably a fucking child

    • @AI-tc8fv
      @AI-tc8fv Před 5 lety

      Except he wasn't

    • @drbannter
      @drbannter Před 5 lety

      RhJonseyy Annie was actually not a real person it was a doll

  • @helenkeys8156
    @helenkeys8156 Před 2 lety +2

    I love your podcast I really love all your videos your so real and relatable I’m from north east myself and can relate to you .. I also love how honest you are x

  • @tahmed2176
    @tahmed2176 Před 5 lety

    Love the both of yas, keep going lads