The InReach Mini vs The InReach Explorer+ For Backpacking After Using Both Over A Year
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
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01:23 Weight and Cost Differences
02:13 Use As A Standalone Device
04:43 Battery Power
06:38 Navigation
08:15 Brightness
10:00 Summary and Conclusion
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This video was so extremely help in my decision on which device to purchase. My family has asked me to seriously consider getting one before going off on multi-day hiking trips. Since I’ve had several rounds of chemo and radiation, plus five brain surgeries, they remind me I’m not as good as I once was-to borrow a line from Toby Keith. So I plan on buying one after Christmas, then hitting the trails for some solo travels. I was never supposed to walk again, so I want to show my fellow brain tumor warriors that a diagnosis doesn’t have to define you, nor does a prognosis determine your future. Apologies for being a chatty Kathy.🤙
Get one before you go out please.
As a backpacker of almost 50 years, and a recent participant of the cancer adventure, thank you for being a chatty Kathy and sharing your place on the journey. Stories like yours give me a lot of hope for the future. Joyful journeys both on and off the trail.
I’m definitely considering it. It’s a tough pill to swallow sometimes. Before the brain tumor I was high speed, low drag and had been assistant on survival training courses and knew how to use a map and compass. However, the device would be for their piece of mind and that is good enough for me.👍
Thank you for your kind note. Really I’m just a guy that refuses to give in. Carpe Diem everyday.🤙
Thank you for your kind note sir. I recently hit the half century mark myself. A little over eleven years I “died”(coded) four times as I went through Lord only know how many grand mal seizures. Eventually the placed me into a chemically induced coma. Ever since I opened my eyes from that induced sleep it’s been a long strange trip, to borrow a line from Jerry Garcia.
You're so humble. A TRIPLE CROWN hiker, not to mention all your other hikes, telling us she feels like she can 'weigh in on that'. YOU madam can weigh in on ANYTHING.
Do these have the potion off using itself as a hotspot for your phone when there's no cell service?or are we better with a satellite hotspot dongls like the iridium... also I'm scottish...so o, no sure what service is best in the u.k?
I went backpacking alone for years because no one wanted to do my style of tarp and hammock deep in the woods type of camping, my wife was never happy. I went alone before cell phones were invented, seems odd now to everyone LOL. Injured myself a few years ago, nothing bad but she freaked out. My camping partner is moving away so it will be back to solo trips again. One of these devices seems PERFECT! Thanks!
I use InReach mini all the time. Few points. Yes, it is a pain to type message on it, but with preset messages like - I am ok, in my camp now, or - Running few hours late and etc it takes simple push of a button and it's done. Not much for chatty people, but enough for my family... You can also have auto tracking, then you family and friends can see your progress on the map. In respect to battery life, I switch off mine after use for a message or weather forecast, this way one charge will be enough for many days(I actually never ran out of juice). Just remember when sending a message without good satellite connection, like in the deep canyon, unit will keep trying and will drain your battery fast. Finally regarding SOS. This needs to be taken very seriously. Not only it will cost a fortune, but it will also endanger lives of the rescue team and take their attention from helping others. Most of the time rescuers travel on foot, not fancy helicopter rides. So unless you absolutely in real trouble, SOS shouldn't be used for like - Sorry can't locate my car... Be safe.
Thanks! You covered what I had planned on saying very well. I've been on a SAR team for about 13 years. I carry the mini and don't always follow man made trails.
The inReach Explorer will keep trying for so many attempts, but then will give the user the option to retry or cancel. Fortunately it won't keep trying until the battery is dead.
you say you can have auto tracking -- you also say you switch yours off to save battery life
but if you switch it off doesn't that turn off the auto tracking ?
so if you want auto tracking wouldn't you need the extra battery life ?
@@firstname4337 It’s a choice. I don’t use tracking.
You do such a great job of articulating these comparisons. I use the mini in order to save weight and money. At 66 years old I have spent most of my years in the back country with no device to reach out and get help. So the mini although limited is all I feel I need if I get in serious trouble. I don't really need or want the other features (communication, mapping, etc.)
As a 71 year old who hikes solo in the California Sierra, I always carry my Inreach Explorer + for myself and more importantly for my family to let them know I'm OK. When I started going out much more often after I retired my daughter sat me down and had a daughter/father talk with me and told me all about my responsibilities to her and mom.
No offense, but I think at your age (71) your daughter should most likely be an adult by that time and should no longer be dependent on you for support (unless she has special needs which might require assistance). You did your part...now enjoy your 'alone' time.
@@photog1529 My daughter is a self sufficient adult. She needs no financial assistance from me. However she "needs" her father and to be assured that he is well and not have to worry when he goes off alone. There are responsibilities that have nothing to do with money.
@@larryfisher7056 not everyone will get it. As a daughter with a father in his 70’s I completely understand 😊 You must be a great father and adventurer ✌🏼
I had that same talk w/ my mom. I'm a responsible adult in my early 60"s but my mom almost 80 had an accident that required an overnight stay in the hospital & did not want me to worry so didn't tell me. Ugggh parents (lol)
It's my right as a daughter to know how she is doing. It's my right to worry. Lol
You are very blessed.
I use the mini, and have found the battery life to be quite good, with careful power management. I turn tracking off, which saves a lot of power and I’ve found it drops a lot of points with overhead tree canopy or canyons anyway. I use a few preset messages to ping my location and check in at points during the day, which still allows those following at home to check my progress, and I only infrequently have to Bluetooth to my phone to type longer messages or use navigation (I use paper maps as a primary). I turn it off when I get to camp. I can get 3-5 days out of a charge this way, but I’ve found it uses very little battery capacity to charge it - way less than a phone charge.
After I finished the JMT in 2017, we had some massive fires in Sonoma County. All of our cell and cable TV went down - so I had no phone or TV or anything. I had to drive into town before I could find out what had happened. I decided to get the InReach Explorer+ for trail use as well as general emergency use, because where I live, there are lots of dead spots for cell coverage, and the cell towers are also susceptible to destruction. I am still learning how to use it, could definitely benefit from a course in how to set it up and use it. Thank you for the reviews.
Thank You Dixie ! 😊 All great points, I have no regrets on going with the explorer plus for the longer battery life and the maps. No sense on saving 4 ounces if I’d still need 4 ounces more battery bank for the same use time with the mini. Another point with both is to turn on tracking….. if your injured and can’t press SOS for some reason at least the search area gets narrowed a bit by your last track point. Those who choose to leave theirs off at all times lose that option.
In my experience keeping the Bluetooth active to the Earthmate app also drains my iPhone much more quickly.
Just got back from a Sierra trip where I had to use SOS on a InReach Mini for a badly injured person part of another group. I did everything via the blue tooth connected iPhone. Communicating with SAR was easy and the app allowed me to cut/paste which was nice. Battery wise, I normally keep the Garmin off except for a couple messages at night. Even with the device on for 6 hours during the SAR, after a week, the battery was at 85%, though during the SAR, the dispatchers put the device in a low power mode which probably helped. When turned off, it best to turn off Bluetooth on the iPhone to save the iPhone battery.
What if you didn't have cell service? Are you still able to communicate through the Bluetooth connection?
@@Sharonal110 The cell phone is connected to the Garmin via Bluetooth and the Garmin uses a satellite for communication. No regular cell signal is needed. Otherwise, he would have simply called 911 on his phone.
As someone who isn’t usually too chatty I love the mini. It’s nice to use the more familiar interface of the vs any satellite device interface. I plan considerably to make sure I have enough portable battery bank capacity for my phone as it’s primary navigation. Paper maps make a good backup for navigating. i try to keep the mini off as much as possible, at least from completion of camp setup until AM departure, unless I’m having ongoing communication with someone but even then I’ll let the, know I’m signing off to save battery [and enjoy nature]. I wouldn’t be excited about communicating via the mini in an emergency when my phone has become unavailable but I’m confident if I’m together enough to work it out on my phone, I could work it out on the mini. It’s all risk management and trade offs.
I have both units. They both work just as you stated in this video. No issues with either one.
I decided that when it comes to my life I will pay the extra money and pack the extra ounces to give me the maximum benefit in the event that I ever need emergency help.
I venture into some very remote areas in the Rockies - a lot - and in these areas there are no people, but many many apex predators. I feel a lot better with the InReach Explorer+.
(I also carry an extra external battery in case I need to charge the unit)
Great video - thanks for sharing your experience with us. ❤️
I stopped in at Doc Campbell's this last weekend and talked to Christie ... she sure had good things to say about you ... oh and I carried a spot since they came out then switched to the inreach explored .. since I follow the hounds around I now use a alpha 200 from garmin .. track my hounds and still let my wife know I'm ok ... love your channel
I doubt that anyone who has spent time with her could have anything but good things to say. She is one of the most genuinely warm and friendly people I’ve ever met. 🤗👍
I have an inReach explorer +. Your points really did go along with what I concluded when researching between the two, and chose the explorer over the mini.
I own the mini. Dixie hit it sopt on.
If you use it to navigate, need 5+ days of battery, or don’t have/want to take your smartphone, get Explorer+.
If you plan to use it connected to your phone, battery life is the only real advantage to the bigger unit. If you’re mostly a weekend backpacker with an occasional longer trip, or at least have access to recharge every few days, the mini will be all you need.
Thanks for highlighting this important subject! I carry Garmin 66i, which is combination of Mini and Explorer+. I mostly hike solo and am 68 y.o., so I decided to carry the one simpler to operate, and as you mentioned that a backup GPS function is important to me.
Timely video for me. I was pretty set on getting the Mini but you raised some good points to think about. Always enjoy your videos.
Super helpful information! I thought through and researched what device I wanted for months before deciding on the inReach Mini. I love it and have never looked back! But, I appreciate that your recommendation is that it depends on your personal needs! Best thing we can do is get the device that will work best for us (after watching super helpful videos like this one!).
I like the weight savings (with only 10% reduction in battery life) since I'll often take it on all day trail runs as well. I don't send a lot of texts, so the 3 presets that can include my location are sufficient for my messaging needs.
Thanks so much for sharing all the things you learn!
Thanks Dixie. Say “Bright Light” again;)! Good information
Bright light at night... in fright, you right
Great video in helping me confirm my decision for the inreach explorer. Appreciate you making the effort to put this comparison together. Im definitely looking at the explorer for all the extra capabilities and functions. Even though I always pack like a mule so I have more then what I need weight is not a big issue for me over having what it takes to make hiking and camping a good experience. Thank you and stay safe out there while keeping up the great work!
Perfect timing with this video! I needed exactly what you covered. Thanks!
I have the mini and I like the compact size. I don’t use it for tracking or route finding, the Gaia app is better. But it’s super useful for messaging from beyond cell service and I was also able to use it a few weeks ago to report a forest fire that some negligent campers had started from an illegal campfire. It got the authorities notified at least 2-1/2 to 3 hours sooner than they could have been notified by someone who hiked out to the trailhead and then drove their car out far enough to get cell service. I never hike without it. Obviously, if you have cell service, that’s a more efficient way to communicate for both emergencies and non-emergencies. But when outside cell service, this is really the 11th essential.
@@stacy788 I did use the SOS function to report the fire. The emergency response center messaged me back and I messaged them the details on the location and what was going on. When we were hiking out after the message exchange back and forth, we met the fire crew already about halfway up to the lake where the fire was, and when we got to the trailhead, there was a full response team doing their thing. Also to Garmin’s credit, when I received my invoice, I was over my message limit because of all the communication about the fire. I asked Garmin what their policy was regarding charges for messages like these, relating to public service, and they promptly replied and removed the charges related to the fire messages. So bravo Garmin. It was only a few dollars but their policy was right on.
@@stacy788 absolutely useful for traveling. When not in my pack or on my horse, it's in the truck. Hope that helps.
Excellent job with all the key points covered. Thank you Dixie!!
Thanks for this review - answered all of the questions I had between the two devices. Enjoy the rest of your adventures!
Thanks Dixie!. Another helpful, concise and informed review. You’re the best !
Such great, thoughtful content. I’ve turned to you for so many vids offering great review. Thank you!!❤
You made some great points that I hadn't considered before. Thank you !
Great review. Always a pleasure to drop in on you, Dixie!
Thank you Dixie. I trust your judgement and really appreciate your down to earth sensibilities and pragmatism. Glad I found your channel.
Really helpful video, thank you so much for taking the time to share it.
You are the BEST! I trust your recommendations ultimately. I have been trying to decide between the + and the mini. This helped me make up mind with certainty.
That is a great feature on this video with the jump directly to relevant sections.
Perfect timing
I’ve weighing pros & cons of each trying to decide which would be best for me.
Thanks Dixi!!
The Explorer+ has configurable screen brightness, from always very bright for broad daylight to as dim as the mini. The automatic mode varies the brightness depending on ambient light and is the best setting in general.
Good stuff as always, Dixie.
As you point out we each have different views of what we 'need' in the back country.
With my usage the mini fills the bill. I navigate with maps (because its fun) so i stay in touch with where i am (mostly). I use my phone apps Back Country Navigator and Guthooks to confirm locations when confused :). The mini is sending pings for the folk back home. The two way messaging is mostly at camp, to 'talk' with the significant other, when there is no cell service. I keep both the mini and the phone at minimum settings, to conserve battery life. Both are off in camp at night.
Thanks, the information was well thought out and presented, as always
super helpful! Thank you for making this video
Thanks for the great comparison! Safe travels!
I’ve got the Garmin Montana 750i, weighing in at 14.5 oz. 🙂 I’ve been very happy with it. Satellite plus maps on a big screen, plus a camera for geotagged pictures.
I don' know how people don't talk, but there are 2 gpsmap models and 1 montana that also have inreach functionalities.
I know that these models have a con, because is two functionalities on the same device, if you break/loose one, you don't have neither navigation or SOS, but the same happends with inreach explorer.
Excellent comprehensive and seemingly honest review from real life scenarios. Helped me make a decision. Thanks!
Damn good analysis all the way around you’ve thought of it all with this review very nicely done, i’ve had both and I would have to say your review is perfect I have presently the mini and have thought about everything you’ve made a comment about. And agree 100%. I do like the mini and will work to make sure my phone and it is always charged enable to use
Thank you so much for your helpful review. I’ve wondered which would be the better one for me. I now know I’d choose the Explorer + 👍
Thanks, Dixie. 🙏🏼. Another excellent review of these two options. 👍
We usually do week long or less trips and our mini works great. If going somewhere new we turn on the tracking too so loved ones can see where we are. I charge it with a battery pack when needed. It’s pairs great with Garmin watches too. I can read messages, send preset messages, turn on/off tracking or access the SOS feature from my watch. I clip it on the side of my pack and can mostly just forget it’s there.
Dixie - I have used both and agree with your analysis of the pros and cons. Spot on, so to speak.
I already own a gps so I got the mini, it’s a great size and easy to use with your phone.
These things are game changers, they give peace of mind for the friends and family at home 👍
I am an old man. Bright is much better for my old eyes. Thank you, Dixie, for highlighting (no pun intended) that benefit of the Explorer.
Yes, me too. 74. Bright is always better.
@@28105wsking Dixie doesn’t quite grasp this challenge yet, so I was very happy that she noted it in her review
I'm an old lady, so I've been deliberating between the two also.....
I really needed this episode. Thank you.
Great new video and device talk, I love your channel by the way. 😊
I chose the Explorer + for those reasons you talked about. I didn't want to rely on a phone for typing and using the maps. Also a plus with the increased battery life with both the Explorer+ and my phone not needing to have Bluetooth on either device. I used my Explore + to get ahold of the authorities when someone tried to steal my vehicle at a remote trailhead after coming back from backpacking. The vehicle needed repair and wouldn't run but we were able to make it back to safety.
How is the battery life when you use it for navigation? Right now, I'm using a Garmin GPS device that uses replaceable batteries, which I've found to be very useful on trail. If the batteries run out, I can just pop in a new set. Overall, the battery life for that thing is about three days, and I turn it on when I head off, and off when I stip for the night, so it's on for maybe 12 hours per day. I'm hesitant about the InReach, because I fear the battery life will be much shorter, and because it's rechargeable, I'd need to carry a powerbank or something, which would be extra weight. Or carry both InReach and my old GPS device, which seems redundant.
@@meikusje it all depends on how you have your tracking and data logging set up. We just got done with a 100 mile race and 35+ hours of use it was still at 67%. It would transmit location to mapshare every 20 minutes and log a track every two minutes. It won't give you accurate mileage like that but it is good enough for what we used it for. When I hiked the Wonderland trail earlier this year it would last 3 Days before I would charge it up. For that hike I had it pinging my location every second for a more accurate mileage count so I could track. Mileage seems accurate as long as you pause it while on extended stops. If you leave it on during stops it will kind of float around and eventually give you a little more distance.
Thank you so much for making this video very helpful I will go with the bigger unit
Thank you so much for your honest, unbiased review!!! I just moved to SE Idaho in a very remote area. Thank you, thank you! Safe hikes!!!
I use a Zoleo. It's not as fancy and I use my phone to navigate but I can send a check-in message with my coordinates, send out an SOS (PLB), and text as much as I like (which isn't much), track my progress-others get updates, etc. It rescued me on the Pinhoti; sent my husband a text and he was able to locate and pick me up when I got injured. (I mostly got it for him though when he's out hunting and short 1-3 day hikes where the route is well marked.) When I finally do one of the thru-hike trails I'll look into the InReach+. The mini sounds like a lot of work for my bad eyes.
I've had a Mini for 3 years and so far I'm happy with it. I got it over the Explorer+ because I already have a GPS (Garmin 62s) so didn't need the extra navigation features. I have 3 messages ready to go that I use all the time, for anything else I tether it to my phone (although you raise a very good point about what happens if you lose your phone). I also add tracks and waypoints via my Garmin online map which I then sync to my phone so I have those available too. Battery life is decent though I've noticed it get worse since I first bought it. But I can still get through a week of check-ins on a single charge.
This was very useful thank you so much for your opinion! Now i know im going with the Explorer!
I use the Mini. I'm one of the folks that only check in with family once or twice a day just to let them know I'm safe. I do wilderness canoe trips so I rely on paper maps and only occasionally use Earthmate. A wonderful video explaning the differences.
Excellent information re: the InReach devices. Been looking at both, with a mind to take one along on future hunting trips. I've read about the features, but hearing what someone who has actually used them both has to say is worth hundreds of pages of Garmin brochures. Happy Trails.
I just noticed that I'm spending more time on reading the comments (mostly in a positive vibe) than the time spend on watching your video, so a big thanks to all the people in the comments! and for you for inspiring this "little" community.
Great review and information. Thanks for sharing 👍
Not being a through-hiker, I'm all about the explorer+. The weight isn't nearly as important for a just few days. The durability vs my phone is very important. My trails aren't on guthooks, so the I think the navigation using Garmin's BaseCamp is pretty slick. There aren't a lot of videos on it unfortunately, but it works well once you figure it out.
Nice "first person" review Dixie. I've carried the Explorer+ for hundreds of miles and never regretted my decision. The mini is ideal for day hikes in non back country outings but you hit all the right highlights for both.
Before I even watch this, I want to thank you. I trust your reviews implicitly, and this is a decision I've been thinking about for over a year for motorcycle trips. Again, thank you.
Thanks for the in depth comparison. Love your accent. Reminds me of my friends in East Texas.
Great info and love to hear your “professional” opinion. It has given me some good things to consider before purchasing one of these devices. Thanks!
really great comparison and review of these devices.
Thank you Dixie, great job, great insights.
Nice comparison, thank you.
Thanks for sharing. Inreach mini 2 is released now. Better battery life, sinc with garmin explore and got breadcrumbs tracking.
Hello 👋 Dixie, thank you for sharing this vital information. You are always a great source of information. All the best of good things for you. Stay safe out there.
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As a few others have said, the Gaia app is light years ahead of just about any other nav tool out there. As a result, I have my phone with me when on foot (or an iPad mini if overlanding) anyway, so the Mini and Earthmate are the combo for me. Oh, and it connects nicely to my Fenix 6 watch too.
Thanks for you insight on the inreach
I’ve had the mini for a couple of years. It is small enough to carry every day in my bag, so I always have it should an emergency develop outside of cell coverage. The preset messages get a lot of the work done without the painful typing.
Also, there is a dive-rated case for the mini, so you can take it on scuba adventures. A nice piece-of-mind item should you need assistance on a dive (when back on the surface).
If you use a compatible Garmin watch, you can control some enReach functions, including SOS activation, from the watch.
Holy buckets, 2017 was a brutal year for the Sierras. That was more like trecking through the arctic than hiking the PCT. You have my respect that you made it.
Very helpful information. Thank you.
I got the Explorer + for the Colorado Trail, happy with my decision and this video reenforced that. Do have have weight envy for the mini folks- yes. But I like the longer battery life and map screen. I’m not sure the mini does this, but my wife liked seeing where I was in real time when I was tracking during the day. (The unlimited texting plan is great too. We had text conversations each evening.)
great knowledge - cheers!
Real world use case. Good stuff! Thank you!
Thanks for the info!
I'd been planning on buying the Mini, after this video I immediately ordered one. It's already been shipped. I watch al your videos. I live 20 miles from the PCT and hike out there with no cellphone reception
This was excellent. Thank you
Awesome!! Thank you!
Here's a good hint for a backup source navigation: a paper map. It weighs hardly nothing and folds up easily. Be sure it has GPS coordinates on it. Some do, some don't. Then learn how to get GPS coordinates off your satallite device and find them on your paper map. It's super easy. Also, if you really want to go old-school, you can spend some time learning about elevation (best for hilly areas) and use elevation markings combined with other landmarks on an elevation map to find your bearings. You don't even need a GPS. It just takes a little practice.
Maps? please, what kind of pampered hollywood hiker do you take us for. Birthday suit and a pair of boots is all I need. Let me know when you're on my level.
Very helpful thank you!
As always excellent video young lady and I will have to go with the in reach explorer plus because you're able to type and you have a full topographic map of where you're at
I’ve been considering switching to the mini, I think I will stick to the plus. Maps, ease of use, battery. Worth the 4 oz for me. Thanks for doing this so I didn’t have to.
One other thing to consider is whether or not you already own or PLAN on getting a Garmin FENIX watch. If you have the watch, it connects to the mini and the watch will cover you for an extra topo map device along with your phone. The watch does NOT connect to the full size mini though, as the it does not have an Ant+ chip. If you DON'T have a GPS smartwatch, get the full size Explorer imo.
I have the +. I had a stroke two years ago so for me to go backpacking my family said I had to get something. Tried the spot but the connection was not good. I did have to use it to help someone. It worked like a charm. Text their family and got them help. Plus I like having the map on it.
I like your southern accent. The info was great as I have explorer+ and with mini2 out I was contemplating going to mini2 vs keeping my explorer+
Having a sat/sos messenger is a game changer for good. I went with different brands, now Zoleo, but would be happy with the Garmin devices.
Ok thanks for that I was going to buy the mini for Xmas but now think I’ll get the bigger 1 cheers
Super helpful!
I've been using the Mini for 3 yrs. Definitely need to use the Earthmate app if I want to text back to the family and friends. I set waypoints when I camp and use this info to document my trip later at home. The GPS receiver in the Mini has a lot to be desired since overhead trees, and it seems heavy smoky skies, makes it difficult for the Mini to lock onto satellites. Thanks for pointing out the differences in both units.
Yes I've noticed that the Mini can take a long time to acquire satellites in forest or on cloudy/rainy days - I think 25 minutes is my record!
thanks for this great video
Great information thanks. ✌️👊
Helpful. Thanks
I love my InReach Explorer plus!
Just got off a 5 day extreme backcountry trip with my inReach Mini.... had it sending track points ever 30 minutes, turned off internal tracking, and had EXT mode on where the device turns off between the 30 minute points... only used 30% of my battery and could have gone 10 more days without needing to charge at all!! The preset messages (Starting today, Ending today, Checking in all good) are super easy to send - I'm not in the backcountry to be texting with people, but it's nice to have the feature if needed. The lack of weight of the mini is worth it regardless of any other points!
Great video, Mahalo for sharing.
Always appreciated
I've a mini. Got it for sailing. Used it for camping in the Everglades. Lately I've been using it while on remote backcountry scooter adventures. I have a backup phone with no cell service just to bluetooth with the mini. Have used the maps and it certainly is much much easier to send messages. You didn't mention it but being able to check the weather has come in really handy too.
She didn't mention it but she showed it on the Explorer+ but they both have weather.