5 Things I Dislike About The Lee Enfield
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Of course the Enfield cannot compete with more modern semi automatic rifles, but in their day, they were the fastest shooting bolt action rifle on the battlefield. They were fielded and manufactured in their various forms, longer than any other bolt action battle rifle.
Mosin in LNR: “hawutts ddat, whippersnapper? I was made from 1891 to 1973, there are 43 million of me in existence and some still fight with me.”
@@Mortablunt you are correct. The Mosins, in one form or another were made longer than the Enfields. I stand corrected. The Enfield comes in second on that point.
Comparison of this is military surplus rifle to a modern day rifle is like comparing apples and oranges
Ammo availability is the reason I have avoided picking one up. However I would not mind an Ishapore or even 1917 Enfield.
About 40 years ago, I was in a DCM (CMP) club and bought my first M-1 Garand and shot well enough to place among the top three scores in quite a few matches. Then, I bought an SMLE #1 Mk. III* (Australian Lithgow) in unissued condition and another teammate of mine with comparable abilities and scoring history did an informal shoot off at 100 yards all rapid fire. Meaning, one minute for ten shots, or one aimed shot every six seconds. Ten rounds Offhand, ten, sitting, ten kneeling and ten prone. The Garand had a mix of full, eight round en bloc clips and A few two round modified clips to facilitate the two rounds after the eighth shot. The SMLE was simply loaded with ten rounds in each stage. The End result? We each shot in the low 230s and the target patterns looked the same, except for the prone target where the Garand scored better. There was no discernable difference between the two rifles and shooters.
When you trash a classic with a long history, you're either making clickbait or you're the gun equivalent of the guy who orders chicken tenders and french fries at a restaurant.
I own an Enfield, albeit it's an Ishapore 2A that takes 7.62x51 rather than .303 Brit. Ammo availability is much less of an issue although you have to make sure its 7.62x51 and not .308 since .308 is a hotter load I was told. I do recommend the shorter version as the regular Ishapore is a lengthy spear that doesn't fit a lot of normal everyday rifle cases.
Awhile ago I read of a competitive shooter in Australia who converted their #4 rifle to5.56×45mm for service rifle matches due to the impossibility of obtaining .303 British. It worked well enough and uses AR15 magazines.
Good scope mount available from Bad Ace for most models. No drill n tap needed.
Reasonably priced ammo by ppu. Use n reload the brass.
I only have experience with the smle. The only thing I dislike about it is the numerous different screws and springs I have to pay special attention to whenever I have to disassemble the entire rifle for cleaning and maintenance.
Another issue is the weird (to us) bullet diameter of .311. I have solved that by handloading with Berry's 123 grain plated bullet (#00170) as an excellent, low cost plinker. PPU brass is available from Graf and Son.
You've angered some folks. 😂
Super smooth bolt action. Sights are excellent.
I am an older man and I collect WW1 battle rifles, including the Lee-Enfield. I rather like them.
Why Lee-Enfield is inferior to modern rifles of the same use.
Round count of magazine. Bolt action vs Automatic action. Magazines versus charger clips.
My primary response is 'rate of fire' is a substitution of 'accuracy'. The common view is "...if I shoot enough, I have to hit something..." I find this a faulty premise. One should never be inured to killing non-combatant persons. This includes both the civilian in a foreign land who is caught in crossfire and one's neighbor. Or one's wife, husband or children. Or dog. Or goldfish. (One should get the idea.)
Accurate fire is what discourages the opposing force; either army or house invader. The bolt gun gave the user a slight pause between shots and thereby allowed the shooter to intentionally direct shots at opponents. Riflery, the art of shooting a rifle in haste or leisure accurately is somewhat under accented when using a semi or fully automatic arm.
In short, one proper addressed round is better than ten or fifteen rounds in the air.
Charger clips held five rounds each. One can carry far more rounds on charger clips than in preloaded magazines. Since soldiers then and now constantly move on foot in war zones, weight is a factor.
Sights. Yes, the sights were of the era. My old eyes (as old as the rest of me) do not pick up the front sight as well (quickly or in good definition) as I feel they should. Not as well as I remember in my younger days. (I did qualify as expert with the M-14 and M-16 in the 1970s.) I would opt for a green or red insert in the front sight - perhaps the entire post as such, and prefer 'peep' or diopter sights to 'buckhorn' or 'V' (open) sights on a rifle. Typically the 'open' type sights are faster to acquire, at the expense of precision. For typical battle ranges, the disadvantage is negligible.
Cartridges and rim lock. One notes in use rim lock is NOT a problem. Rimmed or not, the Lee-Enfield is not so hampered. At the same time, I must agree a rimless cartridge is just as simple to make and avoids the problem or expectation of the problem. Interesting to me is that all 'belted' cartridges - commonly used for large, dangerous game - is essentially a rimmed cartridge with an extractor groove in the thickened rim. One would not expect a large, dangerous game round to be prone to functioning problems. Back to the Lee-Enfield I am not aware of any such problem being voiced by servicemen.
Head space. Yes. There has been significant notice and complaints about head space. Some of that was caused by the inferiority of techniques and tools used used, or the wartime 'hurry' for more equipment. I have seen several fired rounds with radial splits and other signs of excess headspace. However, this seems to be an over enthusiastic criticism as no substantial complaints or reports of the problem exist. Also, one should note ammunition was NOT reloaded (and is not now as far as I know from my time and such), so a stretched or damaged case was not significant in use.
I am surprised you didn't mention the cartridge itself. One could complain it falls into the same 'oversize' category as the .30-06 Springfied - replaced by the .308 Wichester and that replaced by the 5.56mm. Perhaps it should have replaced by a '7.62x39mm' flavor sort of round; the .303 Short or something of that nature. Of course that would likely require the rifle to be shortened in the action as well. Like the change in dimensions between the M1 Garand and the M-14 rifle.
No one is perfect.
Bro there is nothing wrong with the Lee enfield so please don’t make me unsubscribe i like your channel so
Your rant is stupid. It was a top gun of the time and still hasn't retired yet. Some police forces in India still use it. Let's if your work record can go 140 years ish.
India police retired it in 2019
@theblindsniper9130 so 1880s to 2019. Must of been not that bad. P.S. my wife's grandfather carried it in WW2 after getting he stopped carrying the BAR. He even bought one after he came home.
@@lucassmith2332It’s obsolete deal with it little bro move on
India only clung onto the Lee Enfields because it was cheaper to reconfigure them into 7.62x51 rather than buying all new FAL rifles following their independence from Great Britain. It's not a bad gun, but it's much easier to train any Pakistani with an AK than get Indian police or military to do the mad minute with no hiccups. They had to move on.
Oversized chamber does not equal excessive headspace. Ppl. are needlessly angry all military things are not done the same way that Uncle Sam does things. I get how some may incorrectly think their SMLE has 'excessive headspace' because their factory ammo rattles in the chamber when loaded. It is a radial clearance built in because 'wartime conditions.' And c'mon, US service rifles all have tight target rifle chambers? C'mon. . .
If it fails the no go gauge, it fails the headspace test. No matter the rational behind it or which country manufactured it
Hermoso rifle la verdad 🎉
You are blind. I'm 59 yrs old I've never had Rim Jam. in my lifetime Crank it and Rip it." Ohhh where my brass go"😅😂 Stop it !!😅😂
Say it ain’t so!!! Lol
I can't think of any reason to continue watching your channel after that ridiculous rant.
I wish you the best then!
What’s headspace? I kept asking my moose and he keeps saying that you’re full of shit for some reason. 🫎 Now let me go ask my Elk to see what he thinks.