I drive past you guys everyday and want to pop in to have a look at all the cars and the shop. Just think it might be weird...random guy walks in and ask to look round. Keep up the good work
Don't know why but your MSS vids are some of my favs. Possibly because I feel as if MSS provides a drop, and performance gains without undue harshness.
Evolve you should talk about about the plans to ban car modifications in the UK and bring more awareness about it. This ain't something harmless mate, this will have long term effects. Car manufactures do all kinds of shady stuff in the US to prevent people repairing their own cars, all under the guise of security and health and safety. Everything is being played out and prophecies are being fulfilled. That slogan "you will own nothing and be happy" will be our reality. This ban has nothing to do with the environment or safety, it's about corporate greed, do not let this fool you. If people let this slide we are done, you should try and get everyone talking about it. There's a petition called - Ban to car modifications in the UK. Everyone needs to sign it.
Really informative vid guys. Two questions: 1) Does the kit work on other E9X models (non-M)? 2) What are effects, particularly on ride quality? Cheers.
Not sure if it will fit other models as its designed for the M3. We can check this. Watch other videos of MSS on any other car. Ride quality is outstanding.
Thanks. I guess the critical questions will be the whether the front springs are compatible with the (lighter?) 4- and 6-cylinder engines and whether the spring adjusters/perches fit the non-M struts. Maybe someone will come forward as a guinea pig..?
Will you have a follow up video showing the drive on e92m3 after install and your thoughts on the springs and difference of ride quality? Also wondering why front kit doesn’t have black spring included? And the last question;how/why is this kit better than KW HAS kit? Thank you
Happy New Year Imran, Aston, and to the rest of the team. Thanks so much for this video because I’ve recently purchased BC BR coil overs for mine, but it doesn’t allow for me to retain EDC as desired. I was going to exchange them for the KW H.A.S. Kit, now I definitely prefer this MSS setup. I am not sure if you carry this on your site for U.S. models, however, I will be shopping it in a moment to confirm. Thanks again!
Happy New Year. Yes it works on US models too. I'm not sure if the guys had a chance to put them on the website before we closed for the holidays but we have them in stock.
Love it and will buy a kit for my M3. When are you going to do the road test as I am very interested to see how it rides and any handling differences. Thanks guys 👍
Ideally, I would agree with you, especially since I have the funds allocated/budgeted to spend. From watching earlier videos, Imran stated that the premise of this build is to do so under a budget. Hence, modifying and replacing only the necessary parts, unless worn or one-time use. I have found a lot of value from this series because I have previously spent unnecessary money replacing old parts for new ones that were not worn and just because I was “already in there.” The money spent there could have stayed in the budget to be spent on other mods or track gear.
@@EuroAutoEnthusiast It just seems crazy not to have new rubber bits ordered up and ready ahead of this type of work. If you get in there and one or two of them are perished or past it, then you're just gonna be all jammed up waiting for cheap parts. And rubber ages, who the hell wants a squeaky suspension because a coil end is pushing thru to the metal.
@@EvolveAutomotive any names or part numbers you can share for this rubbers? Or perhaps mention it in your follow up video. When I gets MSS kit I definitely want to change rubbers .My car is on 88k miles now
Also worth noting this video is not part of the 152k mile project car series, it was just the car we used to create an installation video. Use a site like realoem.com to identify what parts you want to change whilst carrying out the job, and order them directly from BMW.
Fantastic news that this is now available. Questions for the follow up video please - for those of us wanting to do a spring AND shock replacement on a high mileage E9x car, will this work with the B6 EDC compatible shocks you put on the Japan Red car, and will it solve the ride height and comfort issues you noted on that car with the B6 alone? Would love to get some comments on a straight comparison between OEM competition pack setup and the MSS/B6 set up.
We have had Bilstein make a specific B6 for us to work with the MSS springs as they do not work with the standard B6. Video on this combination coming very soon.
In a perfect world you would replace them with our Evolve x Bilstein B6 EDC dampers. This tutorial was carried out on our high mileage car because it was what we had available at the time. Full project series on our YT channel!
Installed clip showing how it looks would have been a nice finishing touch to this video instead of leaving me with a case of blue balls lol. Do you think these are the way to go over a Bilstein B16? For spirited canyon/country driving.
Maybe a daft question, but would the B12 Damptronic kit which couples the B6 with Eibach specific springs not solve the ride height issue people have when fitting the dampers on stock springs ? How would that compare to a MSS + B6 combination ?
The MSS combination will provide a more compliant ride due to the triple spring rate on the rear. Our specific Bilstein B6 dampers are also shorter than Bilsteins own B6.
@@EvolveAutomotive 👍🏻 these are the ones you were trying to revalve for softer comfort ride in your first Japan red ride ? That’d be perfect with the correct ride height!
Anyone know why MSS springs have shot up in price? I was looking last year at getting an MSS suspension setup on my m240 and they were around £700 but looking online now and they are over £1000.
Unfortunately just price increases due to everything that’s happened globally. Almost everything we sell has had some form of price increase if not two in the last 18 months.
I really like this kit I just wonder how well those shocks will hold up considering they have 150000 miles on them. Great video I’ve kept my M2C stock but would love to to swap my factory springs with these. Is this kit available for E90 models?
Your mechanic always looks like he’s had a rough night at the local pub in every video. Not sure if he uses other people as a punching bag or if he’s the punching bag.
No shaved top mounts or bump stops?. I have been flamed for not doing this on my e92 m3 fitting eibach springs..my specialist said not needed. Evolve can you clear this up? Myth or fact.
We will be doing a full review of this kit on our own Japan Red E92 M3 in the coming weeks, so stay tuned for our driving impressions!
YES! Looking forward to the drive. Exceptional unboxing and install walk through guys
I drive past you guys everyday and want to pop in to have a look at all the cars and the shop. Just think it might be weird...random guy walks in and ask to look round. Keep up the good work
We keep meaning to have an open day for exactly this reason!
@@EvolveAutomotive please do it
Don't know why but your MSS vids are some of my favs. Possibly because I feel as if MSS provides a drop, and performance gains without undue harshness.
Great series on the E92. Hope we see an update soon on the progress to fix the handling issues.
Thanks for the tips and tricks Aston has given me. I wish I knew that way when I changed my springs on me E92 2 years ago
Evolve you should talk about about the plans to ban car modifications in the UK and bring more awareness about it. This ain't something harmless mate, this will have long term effects.
Car manufactures do all kinds of shady stuff in the US to prevent people repairing their own cars, all under the guise of security and health and safety.
Everything is being played out and prophecies are being fulfilled. That slogan "you will own nothing and be happy" will be our reality. This ban has nothing to do with the environment or safety, it's about corporate greed, do not let this fool you. If people let this slide we are done, you should try and get everyone talking about it.
There's a petition called - Ban to car modifications in the UK. Everyone needs to sign it.
I really like watching you, greetings from Turkey, you are doing a good job
Great video on install. Very helpful. Looking forward to the follow up!
Fantastically simple piece of kit
Looking forward to see what you guys think of the set up. Great video, as always!
Looks a great kit 👌
Happy new year guys
Really informative vid guys. Two questions:
1) Does the kit work on other E9X models (non-M)?
2) What are effects, particularly on ride quality?
Cheers.
Not sure if it will fit other models as its designed for the M3. We can check this. Watch other videos of MSS on any other car. Ride quality is outstanding.
Thanks. I guess the critical questions will be the whether the front springs are compatible with the (lighter?) 4- and 6-cylinder engines and whether the spring adjusters/perches fit the non-M struts. Maybe someone will come forward as a guinea pig..?
@@philthomas9396 u just asked the same question 😂😂he doesn't know if it would fix other cars cause it's an m3 part.
Thank you bro. Thank you for your information.
Will you have a follow up video showing the drive on e92m3 after install and your thoughts on the springs and difference of ride quality?
Also wondering why front kit doesn’t have black spring included?
And the last question;how/why is this kit better than KW HAS kit? Thank you
We will have a full review video in the coming weeks, and will answer your questions.
Happy New Year Imran, Aston, and to the rest of the team. Thanks so much for this video because I’ve recently purchased BC BR coil overs for mine, but it doesn’t allow for me to retain EDC as desired. I was going to exchange them for the KW H.A.S. Kit, now I definitely prefer this MSS setup. I am not sure if you carry this on your site for U.S. models, however, I will be shopping it in a moment to confirm. Thanks again!
Happy New Year. Yes it works on US models too. I'm not sure if the guys had a chance to put them on the website before we closed for the holidays but we have them in stock.
Just installed this on my g30. Front looks great but rear height still looks stock although I maxed it out? Any ideas?
Love it and will buy a kit for my M3. When are you going to do the road test as I am very interested to see how it rides and any handling differences. Thanks guys 👍
As soon as we get back to work next week.
show the stance !
Wouldn't it make sense to order up some fresh rubber bits if you're gonna do all that work?
Ideally, I would agree with you, especially since I have the funds allocated/budgeted to spend. From watching earlier videos, Imran stated that the premise of this build is to do so under a budget. Hence, modifying and replacing only the necessary parts, unless worn or one-time use. I have found a lot of value from this series because I have previously spent unnecessary money replacing old parts for new ones that were not worn and just because I was “already in there.” The money spent there could have stayed in the budget to be spent on other mods or track gear.
@@EuroAutoEnthusiast It just seems crazy not to have new rubber bits ordered up and ready ahead of this type of work. If you get in there and one or two of them are perished or past it, then you're just gonna be all jammed up waiting for cheap parts. And rubber ages, who the hell wants a squeaky suspension because a coil end is pushing thru to the metal.
This video is just for installation instructions. If it was staying on this car we would have replaced all the rubbers etc
@@EvolveAutomotive any names or part numbers you can share for this rubbers? Or perhaps mention it in your follow up video.
When I gets MSS kit I definitely want to change rubbers .My car is on 88k miles now
Also worth noting this video is not part of the 152k mile project car series, it was just the car we used to create an installation video.
Use a site like realoem.com to identify what parts you want to change whilst carrying out the job, and order them directly from BMW.
Fantastic news that this is now available. Questions for the follow up video please - for those of us wanting to do a spring AND shock replacement on a high mileage E9x car, will this work with the B6 EDC compatible shocks you put on the Japan Red car, and will it solve the ride height and comfort issues you noted on that car with the B6 alone? Would love to get some comments on a straight comparison between OEM competition pack setup and the MSS/B6 set up.
We have had Bilstein make a specific B6 for us to work with the MSS springs as they do not work with the standard B6. Video on this combination coming very soon.
@@EvolveAutomotive Best news ever! Christmas has come very early this (new) year!
No spring compressor?
Nice work. How does the car ride on the new suspension
Curious, is it really a good idea to throw lowering spring on what looks like high milage struts?
In a perfect world you would replace them with our Evolve x Bilstein B6 EDC dampers.
This tutorial was carried out on our high mileage car because it was what we had available at the time. Full project series on our YT channel!
Would this front spring removal method work on an m140i, is there enough weight to use the car as the compressor?
It should do yes.
Will these work with e93 335i too?
Installed clip showing how it looks would have been a nice finishing touch to this video instead of leaving me with a case of blue balls lol. Do you think these are the way to go over a Bilstein B16? For spirited canyon/country driving.
Check our current video. These with our new B6 set up should be superior to B16
Brilliant explanation really interesting 👍🏿
How much is one of these kits I couldn’t see it listed on your website
Hi,looks a good kit,is it the same fitting process for the f82 m4, I take it is not only for lowering but also for corner balancing?
Very similar as their suspension setups are so similar. You could also corner weight with this kit yes.
Quick one. Would these be aesthetically amazing and ride comfortably on an E30 on R17”s
They wouldn't fit an E30.
Maybe a daft question, but would the B12 Damptronic kit which couples the B6 with Eibach specific springs not solve the ride height issue people have when fitting the dampers on stock springs ? How would that compare to a MSS + B6 combination ?
The MSS combination will provide a more compliant ride due to the triple spring rate on the rear. Our specific Bilstein B6 dampers are also shorter than Bilsteins own B6.
@@EvolveAutomotive 👍🏻 these are the ones you were trying to revalve for softer comfort ride in your first Japan red ride ? That’d be perfect with the correct ride height!
@@rosinor6406 exactly that. We are testing the prototypes now.
Anyone know why MSS springs have shot up in price? I was looking last year at getting an MSS suspension setup on my m240 and they were around £700 but looking online now and they are over £1000.
Unfortunately just price increases due to everything that’s happened globally. Almost everything we sell has had some form of price increase if not two in the last 18 months.
would this kit be compatilble with the bilstein B8 high performance damptronic shock absorbers?
It is not but we have worked with Bilstein to make some custom damptronic for us that will work. We are testing them next week.
@@EvolveAutomotive owh ok.. noted.. thats awesome! cant wait to see the outcome from that! thanks guys!
Can you get a kit like this for the e46 m3?
I very much doubt there will be a kit for the E46 M3 but you never know
Cheers could you recommend a coil over kit you have fitted to an e46 m3 no track use just the road cheers 🙂
We are a fan of the Bilstein B16 kit for that car.
Do you have a kit for the G30 M550 X or any tuning.. I have Dinan and extremely Happy with over 600 hp but I know the car has More
Yes MSS is available for the M550i. We can also tune this model
@@EvolveAutomotive Can you send me the link... I'm going in the Page Now. More power and slightly lower
@@EvolveAutomotive unfortunately no luck on the site
Please email sales@evolveautomotive.com
Hey will this kit fit all E9x chassis or only the M3?
It'd been designed on the M3 not sure if it will fit other models yet
I really like this kit I just wonder how well those shocks will hold up considering they have 150000 miles on them. Great video I’ve kept my M2C stock but would love to to swap my factory springs with these. Is this kit available for E90 models?
The shocks were changed for ones with 65000 a few months ago , there is loads of videos on this car , evolve have been upgrading it since they got it
They put the shocks from the red e92 on..so much less miles.
is this available for E60 535d
Unfortunately not.
How is the ride comfort ??
Will road test next week
Your mechanic always looks like he’s had a rough night at the local pub in every video. Not sure if he uses other people as a punching bag or if he’s the punching bag.
He is an amateur boxer. Inevitable he's going to get hit in sparring practice or in competition.
No shaved top mounts or bump stops?.
I have been flamed for not doing this on my e92 m3 fitting eibach springs..my specialist said not needed. Evolve can you clear this up? Myth or fact.
Unlikely to be essential in a kit with a maximum of 30mm drop
My eibach only lower 30 mm.