Adjusting the Etachron Regulator: A Beginners Guide
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- In this video, we'll discuss the Etachron regulator and how to adjust it. This video is for those who are new to the Etachron regulator and want to learn more about it.
If you're looking to adjust your Etachron regulator, then this is the video for you! We'll discuss the different parts of the regulator and how to adjust them, so you can get the best results from your regulation. Have a question about adjusting the Etachron regulator? Ask in the comment section and I'll do our best to answer!
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Nobody but nobody teaches you with so much detail we, as a group, are so lucky to have you Alex as a tutor. thanks boss...
Made my day brother, made my day.
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He his very good at his profession no doubt about that. Don’t know how I didn’t find out about him until recently.
Hands down the best watch repair channel on CZcams. Thank you Alex.
You are too kind Supercruze.
You are the best watchmaker on CZcams. Super clear instructions. Thank you so much for this video. You saved me from many headaches trying to figure out why my watch was running 300 s/d fast. Turns out the hairspring was not in between the regulator pins.
Glad I could help! Thank you for your kind words
I am so grateful that I stumbled upon your channel. I only wish it had happened sooner! Thank you
well Terry it’s great to have you. Let me know if you need anything.
Thank you father, for imparting thy knowledge ❤
Always.
Finally, the best explanation ever seen on CZcams for Etachron regulation! Thank you 🙏
i am suspecting that Mark is your number 1 fan and refers to your videos constantly........You are a tremendously talented watchmaker, teacher and presented. Thank you
Hey Joe Jo ,
Who is Mark ? I would like to reach out to him.
Hi Alex. The British guy in Mexico forced into Watchmaking here. I wish you'd have posted this 3 days ago. I had a seiko with this setup and it was bent about half way along the length of the hairspring, I couldn't get it off the cock and was trying to ajust it mounted but found it impossible. I went to a watchmaker friend of mine for help and he showed me how to remove the hairspring from the cock. Then came the magic, holding the balance in one hand he took hold of the hairspring with tweezers and used the pivot in the center to stroke the hairspring back to true. Now the watch is running really well. He also commented if the hairspring is twisted, grab it with tweezers at the point where it is damaged and lightly push it to pithwood to rectify the problem. Thanks Alix amazing video.
Yep, when it’s out of flat your correction point is 180 degrees from the error.
What fantastic detail, patience, and dexterity… I learn so much in your videos! Thank you!
That’s awesome brother. Hope it helps in some way.
Alex, thank you very much for your lessons, I missed a lot of inaccessible information that I found with you. You are a good man, I admire you. Thank you
I appreciate the kind words, Sir what country do you hail from?
@@watchrepairtutorials I come from Poland, sir. Almost three years ago watchmaking became a passion for me that has a special place in my life
@@watchrepairtutorials Sir, I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself. My name is Piotr Stasiorowski and it's nice to meet you. Recently, I have been running my amateur YT channel called Studnia Czasu. I am very happy that I can gain a lot of experience from your films.
This is watchmaking instruction at its finest learned from the comfort of one’s home. Bravo Alex !👏
You’re the best brother
I stumbled on your tutorials about a week ago and am so grateful to you for the invaluable information you have shared. I’ve now made your homemade needle and pivot tools in preparation for the tear down of a Valjoux 7750 and your oiling and oiler tips are phenomenal! All the other material in the lessons is just so well done and so helpful for a self taught guy like myself. I have an idea for a lesson if you don’t mind a suggestion: how about removal of chronograph sweep hands? It’s hit or miss whenever I remove one. Some are just so stuck on! I’ve destroyed a couple and hands aren’t cheap. It would be great if you shared your technique. I am now an avid subscriber!
I do have some chrono videos planned in the future. Thanks Stephen
The recap at the end was very helpful. Thanks Alex.
My pleasure my friend. I try.😜
Another great video Alex, learning a lot from you. Thanks again.
Thanks for being there Tom
Brilliant video and I actually needed to use this today. I had a really screwed up hairspray that I’ve tried to recover and what I forgot was that double bin that I needed to bring the hairspray plane up to where the stud is.
That's awesome JD. None of use are too old to learn.
Different subject.
Who's your all time favorite guitarist?
@@watchrepairtutorials Just gave you a shoutout o my latest video. SRV for most natural, EVH for best overall musician.
@@JDRichard thanks buddy. I agree with Stevie for sure but it is an impossible question to answer.
Thanks once again, Alex.
Outstanding guidance. Keep 'em coming.
I appreciate you Ray. I’ll look into how you can download over on Patreon.
thanks for another great video.
Great video, and incredibly timely for me as I have a Unitas 6497-2 on my bench right now.
Perfect timing 🤙
Incredible stuff here. Makes me realize I’m truly just fiddling with my old vintage watches and I have a lot to learn!! Awesome stuff Alex and thank you for posting.
Well it’s like I say, watch repair is easy until it’s not. 😉
What a awesome job on the hairspray. GEORGE DANIEL'S would give you a thumbs up.
I don’t know about that but thank you.🤗
Nice uncle Alex! Easily the best explanation of the etachron system I've seen so far. It's one thing studying the service sheets and messing with it till you maybe figure it out, it's another thing it being shown in practice.
What’s up my bearded brother.😀
I would venture to say that a lot of people don’t know this and wonder why they have a hard time regulating the movement.
A lot of times everything is close enough that you don’t have to do anything, but when it isn’t, it’s nice to know how to correct it.
Thanks buddy.
Thank you, Alex, this video made me understand the previous one.
Hey man,
There is a method to my madness!😆
Absolutely the best video on this subject I've seen. Gracias!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
So nice of you and thank you for the support. I know you are not a novice, so it means a lot.
Absolutely fantastic in making your own tools. Ingenious.
Bruno,
I find something very satisfying in marking little things that help me in my work.
It’s not really about the money, but the satisfaction that comes from it. I love my little homemade tools
@@watchrepairtutorials This video answered my question. Thanks
@@brunotulliani perfect
Fantastic, excellent, I can't say enough good about what you've shown here
I am glad you like it. Hope it helps in some small way
Very value knowledge, I’m so grateful your lessons. Thank you so much
Appreciate you brother thank you
This was awesome, thanks dude. Looking forward to watching more of your vids.
Awesome, thank you To
Thank you for this. You’re a great teacher and know way more than the hosts on some of the other watch repair channels. I know enough to see their mistakes.
I appreciate you
Thanks so much for explaining how each component works in conjunction with the entire movement and what to look for, where to look, how to troubleshoot. This has advanced my abilities and confidence. I am grateful to you for that.😊
Thank you Steve. There is much more to come
Simple great explanation for learning from your experience!
Thank you my friend. I hope to see you here again.
watched many videos, no doubt you are a gem for us newbie watchmakers. salute to you and hoping I can learn from you much much more . Thank You
Welcome aboard! Lots more coming so stick around.
Working on a Vostok Scuba Dude and it looks like I'll be doing most if not all of this, even tho its not a Swiss movement its very close. Glad to see you had a vid on this. Thanks Alex. Best vid out there.
LOL, I was wearing one just yesterday Mike. 👍
😃A great learning video that saves a lot of time and broken parts!
There she is. Hi Amanda. I hope it made sense.
Sir, It was Incredible!
Glad you think so!
Excellent Excellent! Some of this can also be applied to vintage movements. Many thanks, Alex!
Hey Paul,
Absolutely. I am going to do a video soon on manipulating the old style regulator pins which is probably going to blow some peoples minds.
Alex, You are the best! Still rewatching the video on the escapement- a treasure chest of valuable info, but a lot to digest. It’s like having a personal tutor - exactly what I’ve been looking for. Nobody else provides this in- depth teaching. And glad to see that your Patreon list is growing!
Two months ago I didn't know how a watch worked. Watched a few videos by wristwatch revival and became fascinated. Bought a few old pocket watches and started tinkering.
Then I discovered your videos and became truly fascinated! I'm blown away that we have the opportunity and privilege to learn from you. Can't express my gratitude that you take the time and effort to make these. This is obviously light years ahead of my skills but your clear explanations and camera work make it understandable. Again, thank you.
Take your time and enjoy the ride.
Such great videos. Makes me appreciate the fine work watch makers/servicers do and why the price tag for those.
Thank you. The way I controlled the business I did for many years, it was not like going to work everyday. 99 % of the time it just felt like I was playing.
Good video ! 👍🏼
Thanks a lot with bundle of flowers to teach this lesson very clearly...
Really appreciate 💐💐💐💐
I will pray for you for a good health.
oh thank you Adnan.
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Great lesson!! Thank you!!
Thank you my friend
excellent tutorial man!
Appreciate it!
Thank you very much
Very helpful
You are welcome my friend
Alex. Thank you. Easy to understand as you took your time and taught me individually. That's what it feels like. Even at my standard, I understood. Guess what my bride has bought me for Christmas? A digital microscope as suggested by you. Can't wait until December 28th. My only problem has been hairsrprings. Just loving the hobby.
That’s awesome Ross. As we get more into the escapement and regulation the microscope will make it possible for you to correct issues that most people can’t.
She sounds like a keeper.😀
Огромное спасибо за такое подробное видео.
You are most welcome.
Oooo man tip 2 is so good. Thank you
I would probably use a cleaner hand but it works.
Thank you for your unselfish attitude towards improving the knowledge the watch hobbyist.
Thanks Topgun. I hope to see you back here again
Hey Alex, fantastic video. I fitted new balance yesterday to 7750. Followed your instructions (successfully), and was really please to see great results on the timegrapher. Love your work.
Great to hear! Learn and practice. Learn and practice. That’s all it takes. Good Job. 👍
Once again- THanks! My omega Dynamic 3 (with 2893) is gonna need service. Slowly I am gaining info to do it right. This really will help! You rock and onc again- thanks!
Is it getting cold there yet?
@@watchrepairtutorials Naah. Only about 1 or 2 above. Not cold yet.
Finally Found it!! This video is gold,!! and possibly the only video on the net that shows this very overlooked procedure! Can now replace a dozen of these sitting in my junk box that costed me a fortune to replace! Every watchmaker I approached said it couldn't be done! Imagine that ? I applaud you Sir for this ! Should be titled replacing balance wheel on etachron as a subtitle! Have only 2 words THANK YOU! Five star*****
Thats kind of the nature of the content I try to put out. Thank You
Natural teacher.
Glad you liked it
Gracias por enseñarnos de esta manera tan fantástica y practica.
Muchísimas gracias.
gracias mi amigo. entiendes ingles o estas traduciendo
Entiendo algo, pero lo estoy traduciendo
FANTASTIC VIDEO! Even though I thought I knew all of this, your technique of placing the balance cock to secure the spring end stud and then removing again to locate the impulse jewel (which now seems obvious) will save me a lot of drama, I'm usually exhausted from trying to hold by breath while I attempt to thread the impulse jewel into the pallet fork while the hairspring is trying to freewheel and drag the balance wheel around. Much thanks for this and the whole video is really excellent, subscribing!
LOL Thanks my friend. We'll see you back here soon.
Fantastic. Buy adjusting the pins I got to under 2secs positional variance down from 14 secs. Watchmaking witchcraft :) What I did find is that the end curve of the spring can be out enough so that is doesn't stay centred over the travel of the regulator, but not enough to visibly shift the the spring during that check, and that was enough to change the angle of the spring to the pins after regulation. So the steps for me were, close the gap, check variance, regulate, check variance, check and close the new gap, regulate.
Nice job my friend. Nice Job.
Thanks! This video is hardcore.
Thank you my friend. Let me know if you need anything.
Wow mind blowing great content. Thank you very much for your amazing channel. A new subscriber here!
Welcome aboard! Glad to have you with us.
I learn so much in your videos! Thank you!But keeping everyting is not so easy
Sometimes you need to watch it a couple times
Gracias por tanto conocimiento.
Gracias mi amigo
THANKS,,,,GOOD INFO
Thanks for checking in Greg.
Great video
Thanks for the visit
Im a watch enthusiast. I own over 100 wristwatches both new and vintage, everything from Rolex to Timex. I can change a battery on a quartz watch and with a time grapher regulate beat error and or daily rate on an automatic or manual watch. I have no delusions that I'll ever be a watchmaker but I am utterly fascinated by the process. I've watched many videos from amateur and expert watchmakers but Alex is the first person who brings a complete understanding of the process to even someone such as me who has no practical experience. It's wonderful to be an expert in such a technical endeavor, it is an even a greater skill to be able to teach it. It's sad that watchmaking is such a dying art. With the exception of my Rolexes, I have many watches that I'd like to have serviced by a competent watchmaker but its becoming more and more difficult at any price to find a watchmaker who has the time to take on more work. I continue to enjoy these videos as a source of fascinating entertainment and as an enhancement to the joy of watch collecting.
Thanks for the kind words John. There are watchmakers out there but the number of the independent watchmakers is being squeezed out by they big manufacturers.
@@watchrepairtutorials I'd like to see you take us from start to finish on an automatic or manual watch depicting a complete COA if at all possible. Call me crazy but I'd rather watch that then Network TV or a movie
@@johng.6222 I have had some other people ask me to do a uncut COA. is that what you are asking for John?
@@watchrepairtutorials well not necessarily uncut but one that goes through the majority of the steps with a disassembly/assembly and a before-and-after timegrapher shot along with your insight and commentary. A lot of work I know but it would be counterpoint to a lot of the amateurs who post these type of videos with some questionable techniques.
Thanks!
You got it Fabio
Great video Alex thanks. This was something I was needing to know although I not had do one yet. Alex a few videos back you show us how to clean a end stone maybe you could show us how to clean a pallet fork the reason I ask is because I seen it done in more that one way.
You got it Paul
Amazing videos.
Glad you think so!
Is there a video tutorial on adjusting the endshakes. Thank you
Bellissimo video.
Grazie amico mio
Alex, fantastic explanation! Billy is absolutely right, you are the best at explaining this stuff! I don’t have a single watch with this feature, but when I do I’ll be ready! I’m interested in correcting beat error and I have a missing inboard regular pin on an FHF150 I need to fix, I’d love to know how to make and fit a new one! See you in the next one!
Boyd, I am assuming you are talking about adjusting the collet for beat error? What problem are you having. Maybe I can address the regulator pin in a video
@@watchrepairtutorials thanks Alex. Yes on another FHF150 I had a beat error approx 5m/s, I tried to adjust the collet, I can never get it any different. It’s the first time I’ve done it, so I don’t have much to go on, if it’s me or the movement? I’d like to learn the easiest, best, safest way of adjusting these vintage movements with collets. Also I have never adjusted the gap between the pins, so a video on that would be super as well. I found it too tricky to adjust the collet on the balance cock, so I took it off each time, but Does this mean I’m bringing extra complications and possible changes each time?
@@boydsargeant7496 yep wouldn’t take the collet off.
It’s best to put the cock on a balance tack with the balance wheel hanging down, hold it with your fingers and stick a screwdriver down through the hairspring to turn the collet.
Thanks, I tried that but found it too tricky, was like I would bend the spring at any time. So I removed the balance complete from the cock. Didn’t remove the collet, just twisted it slightly. Put it back together. Checked it in the main plate to see if the double roller jewel sat between the banking pins. When I was happy the jewel was centered I rebuilt and tested on the timer, still 5m/s out?
I would love to see you do a video on building a Seiko watch. Show a step by step video from sourcing the parts to tearing the movement apart and servicing it. Something us newbies could just follow along with and build our own watch with you.
Mike over at My Retro Watches has a complete video for a Seiko 6309 it's the one I use to do my first Seiko. The 6309 movement are cheap to pick up and there are many parts out.
@@PMELKUS thanks
I plan on doing some builds for sure
@@watchrepairtutorials thanks, your videos are great!
THis is the best thing i've found on this so far. Thanks so much again.
Working on my first 7s26 service. If i can figure out wtf is going on with the escapement lock issues which appear to be stopping the movement after a minute adjusting the etachron was pretty daunting and not very clear till now. You've made it crystal clear.
That said, i don't have a microscope. is a 35x loupe enough to do this? Specifically to center the hairspring in the regulator pins.
Well some might be able to. I can’t contort myself enough to work that close.
@@watchrepairtutorials Well i bought a goddamned microscope haha it should arrive today.
One thing i forgot to ask is what is your metric for knowing whether you adjusted the regulator pins to the correct amount? I've seen others ay they get the watch running, put it on the timegrapher and they very finely adjust it till the rate drops by a certain amount. Do you just visually inspect it?
Also I just finished my first movement repair/service. A 10 year old 7s26 that was not running and now has a perfect signal though the amplitude is only 250. I'm about to try to bring it up to 270 if i can though I wonder if the mainspring/barrel just needs to be serviced which i do not have the tools for currently. Either way I'm thrilled it's running and has a perfect signal on the timegrapher, soon as my microscope arrives I will attempt to adjust it to get the best accuracy and delta that i can thanks to this video. Your videos have been very helpful!
This video is a god damn masterpiece. I've watched it several times. No matter how much I think I know about a particular function group, your videos always teach me something new.
I've always been curious. Where did you learn watch making? You have so much knowledge. Do you do this as a hobby or professionally?
What's going on brother.
In 1978 I attended the British Horological Institute. When I graduated I worked in a service center for about 5 years.
While in Denver I had the opportunity to work briefly with Archie Perkins, where I really was exposed to the Art of Watchmaking and that changed everything for me. He had a friend in NC looking for help so I moved to NC where I worked for his friend for 7 years.
When he retired I bought his business that I ran until 2020. I am retired now and currently really enjoy helping others in this wonderful.
@@watchrepairtutorials Awesome. We are all beyond lucky to have you pass on your knowledge. You contribute a lot to the next generation of hobbyists like myself . I feel like this kind-of info money can't buy.
Wow Incredible! I really appreciate the information on making your own tools! What size sewing needle did you use?
Thank You for all your hard work!
I'm not sure. it measures 0.78 mm but you can go smaller for sure. I might even make one with a very small needle.
Thanks Buddy
How about a video on the in’s and out’s of demagnetizing?
That’s a great idea. I hear some much misinformation about magnetism and demagnetizing. It’s on the list
Homemade tools got the like. Aloha
Hand made tools are my favorite when they serve a purpose. And cheaper too
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Your opinion on checking the balance complete and oiling it on a empty plate before start assembling the movement? Thank you
I am not sure what you mean about checking the balance complete on an empty plate.
As far as your second question, I think you asking about installing the balance first, oiling the jewels and taking it off. Assembling the movement then reinstalling the balance.
You can but I usually only lubricant the endstone in the plate and the one in the balance after I install the balance. One the balance is installled and the endstone are lubricated, you must be careful what you do with the balance when you take it off the movement.
Put it somewhere very dust free if a peice of dust gets on the pivot you will introduce it into the jewel hole and create a friction problem in that jewel from the dust.
@@watchrepairtutorials i mean adjusting the balance (hairspring, echatron regulator etc), all you did in this video. Is it possible to do it before or we have to do it last thing when assembling the movement? Thank you
@@BokiPetrovic88 Remember the rules of adjusting and regulation. One of them is that the movement must be newly serviced. Is if the hairspring is obviously out of wack, I will take care of that before before cleaning.
@@watchrepairtutorials thank you.
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Thanks and welcome
Again a masterpiece video, just tons of knwohow poured in just 30 mins, HUGE THANKS. I would also like to ask a question as I got a bit confused. From the "The In's & Out's" video I understood that the regulator pins shouldn't really squeeze the hairspring in between them, but there should some small space for the hairsping and the balance to work correctly. Now, with this Etachron regulator is seems that here we are targeting to adjust the pins just so, that they touch the hairspring without bending it. So, where is the catch or am I missing something for the _normal_ regulator pins - should they be as close as possible to the hairsping without bending it, or there sould be some small space between the pins and the hairspring?
Separate the Eta Regulator from others as they work and adjust a little different. With the ETAchron there should be gap between the pins and hairspring equaling the thickness of the hairspring. Now that's hard to see right. So as you adjust it, look for improvements in the rate moving in the right direction. If you go too far, the rate will get real bad real fast.
@@watchrepairtutorials and what is then right for the other regulators (non-Etachron) - should there be a gap or we try to have the pins as close as possible to the hairspring?
@@vesselingenadiev2526 there is always a gap and no two gaps are exactly the same. This is adjusting and why it has to be done for every individual movement
@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks!
Really Alex you are amazing. This CZcams has not seen such a teacher yet. You really own this platform and I really mean it. I just have a question, is there a translation from English to other languages on your website? I speak a little English but not enough to follow all of this so I'm using the translation here. If there is such a thing, I would be happy to join you. Once again, thank you.
Would you be able to translate the text?
My computer translates pages automatically, but it won't translate yours. I was thinking specifically of videos like here on Yt where we can choose the language and then the subtitle goes down. Although of course it would be nice if the text could be translated.@@watchrepairtutorials
@@chungalunga18 What language ? I think there is a way. I will work on it.
@@chungalunga18 HeY buddy, I am adding the sub titles translatable in any language. Do you know how to turn them on?
Thank you Alex for your quick response. The language I need is Serbian, but I also understand German. Unfortunately, I really don't know how to insert language into videos. I don't know anything about that, sorry.
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How to adjust hairspring to stay in between the regulator pins on movement without echatron regulator? Thanks
Assuming the pins are straight to have to needle the hairspring to move the curve either in or out
What's the name of the special tool you used on the hairspring stud?
ETAChron Adjustment Key
Great video, many thanks. Question: I am going to remove a broken balance wheel/hairspring/bridge from a 7S36c mechanism. I know the mainspring is wound. Is there a way to de-energize it prior to disassembley? regards Bob
You need to remove the winding wheel that's beside the crown wheel. The winding wheel is the one that's between the two fingers of the magic lever. Once that is out Put a screwdriver on the screw for the crown wheel and pull the click spring back to unwind the main screen in the barrel.
Just as a sidenote, I find that the screwdriver slips through my fingers and a more controlled speed by putting finger cots on my thumb and four finger to hold the screwdriver while the mainspring is unwinding.
@@watchrepairtutorials Many thanks for the reply. Bob
@@user-cn4dy4vg9h anytime
Hey by any chance do you have a link to the file you used to make the etachron tool at the end? Even the smallest needle files i'm seeing on amazon seem a little too think to cut a slot that small. The dang horotec and bergeon tools don't work on seiko etachrons which i guess are wider than swiss ones.
I don't have link to the exact one I have. but search for Screwhead Slotting Files and you will see some
Can you suggest a good value bench-top ultrasonic cleaner? There's a mess of products out there that are difficult to evaluate. 👍⌚
Hey man. What’s the budget
@@watchrepairtutorials I'm in Scotland so if possible one that's available here for around £100? Not sure if that's realistic or not, but any input would be appreciated. 👍⌚
24:19 could you please explain if turning counterclockwise speeds up or slows down the watch and by how much? I have a ETA 2824 that is 30 seconds slow and I want to speed it up beyond what the micro regulator screw can do. Sorry for my ignorance, but can I speed it up by simply pushing the arm a bit clockwise? What does turning the stud inside the arm do at the end of your video? Do I need to do that, or both? Confused over here. Sorry.
Moving the regulator arm towards the end of the hairspring slows the rate down. Moving it toward the bend in the hairspring speeds up the rate. Turning the regulator pin block, closes the gap between the hairspring and the regulator pins
Hey Alex,
This video was a game changer in terms of helping me achieve surprising levels of accuracy and positional consistency with relatively low to mid grade movements (think eta 2824 vs NH36).
I've recently been servicing (or at least servicing at my enthusiast skill level) some Miyota 9 series movements from some microbrand watches. With those balance assemblies the hairspring is connected to the stud via screw, and thus no simple mechanism to do adjust it laterally as with the etachron. Whats the appropriate technique to move the spring in this configuration so it can be better centered between the regulator pins?
Thanks!
Explain. Not sure what you are trying to do.
@@watchrepairtutorials So on the stud for the Etachron regulator the hairspring can be adjusted laterally to assure its centered between the regulator pins by adjusting the tab on top of the stud (as done in the video) in the same way that you would adjust the pins themselves on the regulator arm.
For the Miyota series, the hairspring attaches to the stud directly via a screw, and as far as I can tell there is no adjustment peg on top to help center the hairspring between the pins. In these cases, does one bend it manually at the stud if you find its not centered between the pins during the adjustment process? If so, what's the best technique?
Happy to hop on the microscope and snap a few pictures if helpful.
@@daveellis608 ok I got ya.
To adjust the hairspring you have to needle it over by super lightly rubbing a polished needle across it to move it in the direction you need the spring to move.
I mean a super light touch. I use a sewing needle that’s polished to do this.
@@watchrepairtutorials Ok perfect, I made one of those after I saw you use it to help manipulate wheel / pivot position when putting bridges on so I think I'm set.
Thanks Alex, you're the man!
Great video... Got another request for ya. I understand if you don't make a video on it; it's a bit niche, but I've been trying to screw in the microscopic screw that holds the balance spring stud to the balance cock. It has to be one of, if not, the smallest screws in the whole watch. I had to replace one and I can't for the life of me figure out how to screw it back in. It's literally the size of a grain of sand. Do I need a special tool, or is there a special technique?
Hey buddy,
Yea, there is a fine tip pin vise that makes it easy. I have some vintage ones I use.
Search for balance timing screw pin vise
@@watchrepairtutorials thanks
Thanks for another helpful video Alex! I was wondering though, around 26:25 why do you turn the key on the regulator pin to bring it in contact with the hairspring? I remember in the last video how you were talking about why a watchmaker wouldn't just set the pins in contact with the hairspring initially, instead of centering it, and how it will cause a gradual loss in rate as the amplitude rises. So, why is this not the case with an Etachron system?
No you misunderstood. After centering and verification that the regulator travels along the curve, then you just close the gap between the pins and HS. So they are not touching when at rest.
@@watchrepairtutorials ah ok, I think I understand now. I’m sure I’m overthinking this but how do you know how much of a gap to leave? You say it will be a micro-adjustment, so I assume basically just turn until the pins are as close as you can get without touching the HS?
@@awdturbopowah773 Exactly right. You can double-check by watching the HS breathing while the escapement is working to make sure the gap in the pins are as close as possible without the HS touching on either side. The ability to do this and adjust the stud with the same tool makes the Etachron system really easy to get great results.
@@bangy55 Ahh ok. Thanks for helping me understand! Now I get it 😁
@@awdturbopowah773 the gap should be about the width of the hairspring
Where do I find someone like you to work on my watches?
Send me an email.
Hey man, extension of the prior question.
What is the appropriate way to adjust the regulator pins for a pin and flag mechanism. The movement in question is a Miyota 9 series. The mechanism appears to have one regulator pin being a straight rod closest to the balance staff, the other being a flag shaped piece of metal that looks like it can rotate, thereby closing the distance. It looks like it has a slot to be adjusted from the bottom, which means the balance would have to be taken off to adjust it? Assuming the flag should be angled away from the stud, thereby having the straight pin be closest?
I could McGiver it but trying to do it right so wanted to ask and can't find it anywhere else online. Thanks!
It’s been a while since I’ve seen any miyota movements, but I believe that is just to open the pins to allow the hairspray to come out. I don’t believe those pins are adjustable.
@@watchrepairtutorials Ya looking at it under the microscope this evening I think you're correct, appears to be designed to a fixed distance gap with the flag/boot closed. Thanks man, Merry Christmas!
Amazing. Thanks. My main take away from this is I need a microscope.
Yea, as we get deeper into the rabbit hole, especially when you start looking for escapement errors and faults, a microscope is almost a necessity.
Is there a reason that one shouldn't start at about 18 minutes into your video first? In other words, fix the distance between the coils in the hairspring first and then install it into the balance cock. Might save a step.Thanks these are fantastic videos!
Hi John,
There’s no shortcuts. The steps I am laying out are in a particular order for a reason. You Must establish the hairspring is centered between the pins before worrying about how the regulator block travels along the curve. If the regulator curve is not correct, the regulator block will tell you by causing the hairspring to be pulled which causes the bunching of the coils.
@@watchrepairtutorials Thanks! I followed your video for my first real attempt at replacing a balance wheel on my test Seiko NH36. It now makes perfect sense why I needed to follow your steps completely.I now know why my previous attempts at regulating just moving the regulator was hit or miss (usually miss!). The tip on making your own regulator tool saved me $40! Thanks again!
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Why those main adjustments look so easy, I have to try 😂
Just takes practice,right?
@@watchrepairtutorials Thank you! I love your channel!!!
This is on the nh35’s
Yes, it's the same principle.
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The south brother. North Carolina to be exact
Thank you, sir, and I'm delighted to have discovered your informative channel
Kurt Russell does watch repair.
lol.
I think a great companion video to this one regarding repairing a hairspring is: Hair Spring Straightening (1974) : czcams.com/video/egCwtMMoOCU/video.html
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You have very shaky hands my man, you need to see a doctor. Good video!
And I can still do it. How about you ?
Thanks!
I really appreciate you brother.👍