Words Of Radiance Review and Discussion

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Komentáře • 400

  • @mikem1585
    @mikem1585 Před 4 lety +510

    That sequence when Kaladin jumps in the arena to aid Adolin, carried through to when Kaladin finds out Adolin has been waiting in prison with him, is my favorite sequence of the entire series so far.

    • @CLAYZERFUL
      @CLAYZERFUL Před 4 lety +52

      I agree but oh my God I cringe so hard when Kaladin asks for his boon

    • @mikem1585
      @mikem1585 Před 4 lety +7

      Claire Cunfer yeah, major facepalm haha

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety +4

      @@CLAYZERFUL that part was painful!!!! I didn't want him to get in trouble!

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety +1

      OH MY GOSH ME TOO!!!!!!😄😄😄😄😄🤩🤩🤩🤩

    • @AlcaHolicGamer
      @AlcaHolicGamer Před 4 lety +10

      it's also not just the fact that it happened, but the whole pacing of the arena scene before even Kaladin jumps in is so good and painful to read first time through. I literally jumped out of my bed flailing when Kaladin finally spoke. Such great pacing, my god

  • @JamesK0329
    @JamesK0329 Před 4 lety +538

    Kaladin diving into the arena for Adolin got me SO HYPED when I read it, ugh. So good

    • @molllykbat
      @molllykbat Před 4 lety +15

      That scene was one of my favorites

    • @MissMokate
      @MissMokate Před 4 lety +21

      this scene is SO GOOD, but I gotta admit the force of that 'asking for boon' whiplash almost got me obliterated lmao and now even though that whole fight is one of my favourites I can't divorce it from what happens next

    • @holliholtsford9911
      @holliholtsford9911 Před 4 lety +6

      I was in the car listening to it and had to pull over because I was screaming, "YAAAASSSSS! YES! YESSSSS!"

    • @JoseAlvarez-of1fw
      @JoseAlvarez-of1fw Před 3 lety +4

      I was running up and down the aisle I was while at work just “come on KAL, get INTHERE, GET IN” Just cuz I knew he had to pop in.

    • @bradhansen8506
      @bradhansen8506 Před 3 lety +2

      YES fam. That’s when i knew Adolin and Kaladin were gonna be besties

  • @mrothk01
    @mrothk01 Před 4 lety +401

    "Elhokar is Dalinar's Tien" definitely ky favorite part of the book that had me tear up. Also the part with Shallan and Kal in the chasms. When Kal realized she is just as broken as him.

    • @jacobyoung9981
      @jacobyoung9981 Před 4 lety +15

      Yeah, I just finished a reread of WoR and was surprised to find myself getting emotional at that scene in the dueling grounds. He finally realizes what Elhokar means to Dalinar

    • @henrywayne5724
      @henrywayne5724 Před 3 lety +16

      I got emotional during the scene where Elhokar opened up to Kaladin, I need an Elhokar interlude or a POV chapter.

    • @henrywayne5724
      @henrywayne5724 Před 2 lety

      @Day I learnt to live with it.😭😭😭

    • @lilien612
      @lilien612 Před 2 lety

      @Day Mines not 😭😂 I am reading Oathbringer for the first time and... I am an emotional wrack right now (around one third left)

    • @lilien612
      @lilien612 Před 2 lety +1

      @Day I still have around 250 pages left but it’s the German version so it’s a lot thicker I think! I‘m doing fine or… maybe not really, I’m so scared for the characters it’s just so exciting and dangerous and awesome 😭😂 Kal, Adolin, Schallan and Azure are still in… i don’t know the English word, it’s Schadesmar in German… the world of the sprens. And Dalinar is in Urithiru again and he’s in danger and I have a bad feeling about it😂 I think about joining the 17th shard community to have someone to speak about the books before I burst, so yes that’s my emotional situation😂

  • @happykaladin78
    @happykaladin78 Před 4 lety +289

    I loved Jasnah coming back. The moment where Wit/Hoid strikes a pose waiting for her to come through is hilarious

  • @anna.t._7224
    @anna.t._7224 Před 4 lety +280

    When Adolin killed Sadeas I thought it was really funny because he did it super impulsively then a few seconds after he’s like “aww shittt I’ve got to cover this up” and he’s just scrambling around like a maniac like chucking the murder weapon out the window.

  • @stevemarethyu3003
    @stevemarethyu3003 Před 4 lety +320

    An example of what I love about Sanderson: Here's a death rattle from Way of Kings (Note: the chapter when Shallan and Kaladin emerge from the chasms is named "True Glory")
    “They come from the pit, two dead men, a heart in their hands, and I know that I have seen true glory.” -Kakashah 1173, 13 seconds pre-death. A rickshaw puller.
    p. 983

  • @lathspell87
    @lathspell87 Před 4 lety +211

    You skipped over Kaladin saying the words?!?! That's one of the most epic scenes I've ever read in a book!

    • @DavidHall-gr3ml
      @DavidHall-gr3ml Před 4 lety +43

      And rescuing Dalanar from the sky... after finishing the video I skipped through the video trying to find those parts cause i couldn't believe they missed it

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety +3

      Yeah!!!!! That part was AWESOME!!!!

    • @theandrewcummins
      @theandrewcummins Před 3 lety +4

      princessthyemis Lol same! The narrators are awesome. I had so many moments where I shouted “wOoOoOoO!!!” throughout all three books.

  • @CupCakeUnleashed
    @CupCakeUnleashed Před 4 lety +86

    I love that when Kal talks to Dalinar, it's always with a bit of respect, though Kal still stands up for himself, and Dalinar always responds with respect as well. God I love them both.

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah! I was so happy that Kaladin was treated with respect by SOMEONE after all he endured in the first book!

  • @noelnovels6511
    @noelnovels6511 Před 4 lety +233

    When Kaladin jumped into the arena after no one else would help Adolin I literally punched the air and yelled “YES”
    And then the fact that Adolin demanded to be imprisoned just as long as Kaladin 😭 ughhh this books gives me all the feels!

    • @elArqui22
      @elArqui22 Před 3 lety +2

      thats true love

    • @xarmanhsh2981
      @xarmanhsh2981 Před 3 lety

      That was my reaction when i saw Jasnah is alive. I love her so much !

    • @wooshbait36
      @wooshbait36 Před 2 lety +1

      @@xarmanhsh2981 To me it was too obvious that she was still alive so I didn't have a great reaction but still her talking to Hoid was really interesting to read

    • @xarmanhsh2981
      @xarmanhsh2981 Před 2 lety

      @@wooshbait36 at this point i didnt know if sanderson was a serial killer or not. I was so happy to see her alive.

    • @loranalydia3129
      @loranalydia3129 Před rokem

      Same 😭😭🤝🏼💞 they give me soo much joy

  • @jacobhatcher5409
    @jacobhatcher5409 Před 3 lety +46

    You forgot to mention Dalinar's AHA moment with Amaram. That scene had me jumping and hollering, seeing Amaram get outplayed and shown for what he is.

  • @secret.dog.powers
    @secret.dog.powers Před 4 lety +114

    Corey mimicking Kate reading’s voice doing any male character was spot on lmao

    • @MrSean24601
      @MrSean24601 Před 2 lety +2

      His imitation of Michael Kramer’s Elokhar is also spot-on!

  • @UdyKumra
    @UdyKumra Před 4 lety +140

    So with Jasnah's resurrection, where Shallan says "you could stab me and I would probably survive", I always read that as when Jasnah "died", she didn't know about how their powers worked properly. She started learning about how Stormlight and stuff works as the book went on. By the time she says that, she's not thinking consciously about Jasnah, and so it doesn't occur to her to doubt it. When Jasnah is first "killed", she completely believes that Jasnah is dead because she doesn't understand the scope of their powers, but by the time she realizes how much power she has, she's not thinking enough about Jasnah to doubt whether Jasnah really died.

    • @milospollonia1121
      @milospollonia1121 Před 3 lety +13

      I honestly always believed Jasnah to live and I bumped my fist when she talked with Wit

    • @Kal_Al_Thor
      @Kal_Al_Thor Před 3 lety +10

      Jasnah was too good a character to kill off this early. So I was never worried that she was really dead. I knew she would come back for sure.

    • @luthien47
      @luthien47 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Kal_Al_Thor same thing for me, also her being in the cover of oathbringer didn't help my scepticism lol

  • @ransherman1611
    @ransherman1611 Před 4 lety +395

    you two have great chemistry, you should consider getting married.

  • @ryanratchford2530
    @ryanratchford2530 Před 4 lety +145

    I have gotten my little Sister (12 years old) to read the Cosmere. After the Mistborn trilogy, secrect history, & Warbreaker, I reluctantly introduced we to Way of Kings (knowing it’s harder to get into)
    She struggled with the first half but burnt through the end & took 2 months to finish WoK altogether. But then in the last week she’s finished Words of Radiance & starting last night & this morning she’s 100 pages into Oathbringer.
    She loves it & im so proud & happy of her!

    • @vihashah5975
      @vihashah5975 Před 4 lety +5

      Wish my sister actually tried my book recs

    • @djpagla1294
      @djpagla1294 Před 4 lety +2

      Then show elantris 10th anniversary edition
      Then arcanum unbounded and lastly white sand comic and if u giys really love it then brandon has kickstarter project right now so for 10 us dollar u can get a new digital stormlight novella

    • @luketufts6827
      @luketufts6827 Před 4 lety +4

      I got my older sister to read Mistborn, which she loved.. and then DNF’d Hero of Ages 🤯
      She moved on to Way of Kings, and then.. DNF’d Words of Radiance 🤯🤯🤯
      We don’t talk anymore 😄🙃

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety +4

      She's 12 and she's reading something this thick and complex?! Whoa!! That's impressive! I definitely wouldn't have been able to read such a TOME when I was 12...

    • @milospollonia1121
      @milospollonia1121 Před 3 lety +1

      @@luketufts6827 I hope she got grounded. Jk, everyone has a taste that is different.

  • @Liesmith424
    @Liesmith424 Před 4 lety +42

    I love the Kate Reading narration for "No apologize! Boots!"

  • @davewade30
    @davewade30 Před rokem +21

    Kaladin calls Dalinar "SIR" rather than "brightlord" because everyone he's ever called brightlord had betrayed/disappointed him. So even though Adolin doesn't know it, when Kaladin calls him brightlord, it's not a sign of respect.

  • @josegacin9519
    @josegacin9519 Před 4 lety +86

    OK this is freaking me out I literally finished reading Words of Radiance, look for reviews expecting the ones from when the book came out... And I stumble upon an hour long discussion from Merphy posted a few hours ago!???

  • @nanotyrannus5435
    @nanotyrannus5435 Před 4 lety +46

    The thing with the blade catch is that it is harder to do for normal people, but stormlight increases speed and reaction, so it should be much easier for Kal to do than a normal soldier.
    I guess Jasnah's original "death" included her vanishing in front of Shallan's eyes. What we don't know is how Shallan reacted to that in the original draft that made the Betareaders think it was too obvious that she wasn't dead and Shallan didn't notice that, but I agree that with the proper reaction on Shallan's part it probably would have been better. Like "That was weird and I have no clue what was going on there, but I can't tell her parents that her daughter vanished into thin air, maybe she soulcast herself? But why?" etc.

  • @MKTraxel
    @MKTraxel Před 4 lety +88

    Can't actually watch, but wanted to make sure to give this a boost, because I'm excited for this when I'm caught up.

    • @analyzationm
      @analyzationm Před 4 lety +5

      Same im only halfway through part one of book 1 so...long journey up ahead

    • @MKTraxel
      @MKTraxel Před 4 lety +2

      @@analyzationm I have about 150 pages of WoK left right now, but like 6 weeks left before my hold on the next book is expected to be available... 😬

    • @peehurasotra9498
      @peehurasotra9498 Před 4 lety +2

      same, but for me it's cause I'm reading wot, so can't get into this one rn

  • @idkusernamesarehardrip3688
    @idkusernamesarehardrip3688 Před 4 lety +26

    To add onto the Jasnah death scene not being as originally intended: at first, Sanderson didn't _want_ to kill and resurrect her, because he didn't want to use that trope, but the book was just refusing to come together well with Jasnah present (you mentioned in the video some ways it'd be different), so he ended up going with killing her because he just NEEDED to get her out for a while.

    • @curtweston2156
      @curtweston2156 Před 3 lety +16

      After the Jasnah death scene, when she did not immediately come back, I thought, "Sanderson wants to give Shallan some space to grow and be her own person." Jasnah's presence is just too strong, but she is too good a character to just kill off. Never thought she was dead.

    • @mordirit8727
      @mordirit8727 Před 2 lety +3

      What I don't understand is why do it with a death, though. We already knew she was "an Elsecaller" by the time she had her fake death, but the image we had of her second surge was completely fuzzy. If the book was so hard to write with Jasnah in it (and Merph was spot on about how true that is), why not just let it be her power? Shallan could see Jasnah disappear, rationalize she used her other power to do that and just keep it to herself.
      "Sorry Dalinar and Navani, the ship sank, I lost track of Jasnah and made it to shore. But she is much more resourceful than I am, I'm sure she'll eventually make her way here, hell I expected to find her here already to be honest" and you can both keep Jasnah from stifling Shallan's growth in the book _and_ avoid pretending she died.

    • @albstare
      @albstare Před rokem +4

      @@mordirit8727 because then Shallan would probably just be sitting around the Shattered Plains waiting for Jasnah to show up rather than thinking she has to take the initiative to save the world on her own.

  • @LostinDiscovery
    @LostinDiscovery Před 4 lety +13

    All I can say is thank you for taking the time to record an hour long discussion of perhaps my favourite book of all time. You guys are great!

  • @RidleyJones
    @RidleyJones Před rokem +8

    One thing that was very touching to me about Shallan was how her desperate need to protect others (similar to Kaladin's) took the form of like, non-magical Lightweaving: setting up her brother with a girlfriend, getting puppies for her slightly psychopathic other brother so he could learn to care for animals, telling funny stories to create the feeling of a happy family: it was creating a beautiful "lie that became true." Yeah it goes too far into annoying coping mechanism territory, but that's also her internal strength and power to heal.

  • @just-trying-my-best-everyday

    You two look at each other with so much love and adoration. You restore my faith in humanity.

  • @derekdougal2491
    @derekdougal2491 Před 4 lety +23

    Lots of great points but, dang I would have loved to see you both talk about Taravangian and the Diagram more.

    • @merphynapier42
      @merphynapier42  Před 4 lety +9

      Just not enough time in the world to cover it all! Haha

  • @avanz2885
    @avanz2885 Před 4 lety +36

    Great discussion / reaction. Why did you skip over the ending though? The whole Kaladin finally says the words, gets Syl back, confronts Moash & foils 2 assassins etc etc. Even the bridge men glowing at the end & Lopen starting to regrow his arm could have gotten honorable mention.

  • @nayberpb7155
    @nayberpb7155 Před 4 lety +34

    Ohhh so we did convince him huhh, this is going to be a good one.

  • @rubensoeteman
    @rubensoeteman Před rokem +11

    Shallan revealing her abilities to Dalinar had me yelping, so unexpected, well built up but unexpected.

  • @Braheck
    @Braheck Před 4 lety +36

    Id like both of your take on Avatar since you're watching it together and your second time as well with your husband. Maybe somethings you caught on that you didn't before.

  • @SamSchiffer
    @SamSchiffer Před 3 lety +7

    Kaladin Jumping into the arena is an AMAZING part of the book, but my personal favorite scene is when Shallan reveals her abilities to Dalinar. I don't know why, but I think it's because of the gravity of that reveal to Dalinar.

  • @athanasiosdemertzis8847
    @athanasiosdemertzis8847 Před 4 lety +30

    They did it!
    They actually did it.
    Aaaaand, I watched till the end.
    ..
    .
    Have fun!

  • @lathspell87
    @lathspell87 Před 4 lety +16

    "Like a Winters". Band of Brothers reference is always win!

  • @jd3jefferson556
    @jd3jefferson556 Před 3 lety +9

    Literally not one second did I ever think Jasnah was dead. Then Sanderson waited til the epilogue to bring her back which I appreciated

  • @lottevanderpaelt1684
    @lottevanderpaelt1684 Před 4 lety +21

    Yes, we managed to convince Korey!

  • @TheKoiFish
    @TheKoiFish Před 4 lety +17

    A very anticipated video! Lol so many people were excited for it

  • @lucaleone4331
    @lucaleone4331 Před 4 lety +12

    Omg when Merphy read Shallans line about Pain to Kaladin, that gave me goose bumps!

  • @DoggyP00
    @DoggyP00 Před 4 lety +15

    Did Shallan know she could heal to that extent when Jasnah was stabbed? I thought that was something she slowly discovered later. The first thing when you discover you have healing powers usually isn't "What people that I know died in the past could have actually survived with this power?"

  • @adamsawyer3512
    @adamsawyer3512 Před 3 lety +9

    One thing you guys didnt mention about Jasnah's death is that it was hinted that she didnt really die. When Shallan sees her get stabbed and then goes into her room, its mentioned that as shes crawling she expects to trip over the body but doesnt. Its subtle but indicates that theres more to it than we saw, I remember reading that and wondering if that was supposed to mean she didnt actually die, or at the very least something weird happened.

  • @IngoGarza
    @IngoGarza Před 3 lety +8

    55:02 I'm of the opposite reasoning regarding Jasnahs "death". Brandon Sanderson made it easy for himself by killing of the only character that would have been able to "fix" everything. He wrote himself into a corner with Jasnah and just threw her over board (pun intended).

    • @griff5940
      @griff5940 Před rokem +2

      The second that it happened and shallan walked out and said “her body isn’t the, maybe it was dragged away.” I paused the audiobook and yelled, “hell no, she ain’t dead hahah”

  • @taoten2003
    @taoten2003 Před 2 lety +4

    I’m at around page 300 in this book and…oh my gosh! It is a non-stop page tuner. After every chapter I’m like…okay just one more, then I’ll go to sleep; OR, then I’ll start working lol! This is such a fun book that I have to admit that I could not finish this video before reading more. I had to find out for my own because I agree with everything you both say about the book. So good!

    • @suneilgoel3144
      @suneilgoel3144 Před rokem

      lol this book destroyed my productivity for like four days

  • @reflexjat3822
    @reflexjat3822 Před 4 lety +8

    can’t wait for Oathbringer discussion, so many great moments in that book

  • @lucaleone4331
    @lucaleone4331 Před 4 lety +5

    If I already "deleted" a video that (when edited) is 59 minutes. Theres no way I would have gone back lol. So props to you two!

  • @Kristinemay29
    @Kristinemay29 Před 3 lety +5

    I enjoyed listening to your discussion. 🙂 My favorite scene in the book was when Kaladin jumped in to help Adolin in the arena, plus when he regained his powers and later flew to the plains to fight the assassin. I also think that there's gonna be a love triangle between him, Shallan and Adolin. Overall I'm just obsessed with this story and I'm excited to read the next book 😆

  • @jennyleeder8586
    @jennyleeder8586 Před 4 lety +5

    I want that mug! It's like the entirety of the 90's with a handle!

  • @sineadjenks5325
    @sineadjenks5325 Před 4 lety +3

    I just finished words of radiance and it was my first read through. And I fully appreciate this video between the two of you. I watch every one of your videos, so it felt like I was taking part in a discussion between friends of this amazing series. My friends, family and husband are not big readers, so I want to gush about books but don't have anyone to do this with. So, thankyou Merphy for this ❤️

  • @selantrian
    @selantrian Před 4 lety +14

    Wit is actual perfection, no I am not taking criticism at this time
    Edit: my thing w the fakeout death here is that I’m mixed on it. The trope itself annoys me, although I do like that Shallan has to figure things out herself. I fully agree, though, on how there should’ve been a shadow of a doubt-either in Shallan’s head, or maybe not making her look so dead. I also agree with Sanderson-I don’t like that he went for more shock value than foreshadowing with this one. However... at the same time, if I’d had even a hint more foreshadowing, the scene between Navani and Shallan grieving together would not have hit as hard. And I love that scene. I do wish there was ACTUALLY something to grieve, but I think Sanderson captured a lot of emotion despite me being skeptical about Jasnah (bc so many authors use this trope). In the end, I’m of two minds with it and I honestly feel like there’s no perfect way to do it, and it’s even more imperfect and divisive than most writing, so I’d always prefer for authors to do something else and just avoid that mess altogether.

  • @nran1638
    @nran1638 Před 3 lety +2

    I appreciate a review so much which focuses on the relationships between our characters. The chasm sequence bonding is one of my all time favorites. The way Kal and Shallan mirror each others' flaws and question their initial judgments was a beautiful read.

  • @user-sy1qh7rt2x
    @user-sy1qh7rt2x Před 5 měsíci +1

    The killing at the end is interesting because they could have had a long winded plot to kill him or an assassin but we had two books of him outwit everyone and be two steps ahead but it’s how it happens with anger and violence sometimes unexpected and shocking

  • @kvan8046
    @kvan8046 Před 4 lety +4

    I'm slowly reading TWOK and watching these videos makes me more excited to hopefully finish the first three before November.

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis Před 4 lety

      Wish I could do that! It took me 9 months to read all three, so I don't see myself being capable of that before November sadly...

  • @carsonhenderson
    @carsonhenderson Před rokem +1

    with regards to jasnah, shallan had just learned from her how to project her image as a distraction to the sailor assassins. Shallan does it, and she makes a comment about how she should be stumbling over jasnahs body in the dark but doesn’t for some reason. So it’s hinted in the chapter that something fishy is going on with her disappearance. Also wish shallan had put those puzzle pieces together and questioned if jasnah was out there somewhere.

  • @samjohnston1887
    @samjohnston1887 Před 2 lety +1

    The catharsis of Dalinar finally seeing Kaladin at the end was as strong as Thor seeing Cap with Mjolnir. So satisfying.

  • @_C____
    @_C____ Před 4 lety +4

    Merph: I hope somebody watches it till the end.
    Me: Gosh, I wish it was longer.

  • @Nkanyiso_K
    @Nkanyiso_K Před 4 lety +1

    I didn't actually think asking would help but I'm really glad you made this video. Appreciate you Corey, you added something special to this one

  • @jlarcher100
    @jlarcher100 Před 4 lety +5

    59:10 You don't have to worry about video length for me. If it's 10 hours long and it's Cosmere related, I'll put my life on hold to watch the whole thing. 😀

  • @jakjak30
    @jakjak30 Před 4 lety +5

    Hope you do this for Oath Bringer too! Would also love to hear your predictions for the next book or theories you have already :D

  • @bryanmahar6302
    @bryanmahar6302 Před rokem +1

    I loved the Band of Brothers reference. Im a couple years late but it's always good to hear major winters remembered.

  • @hbenensky
    @hbenensky Před 4 lety +5

    Yea Korrey Joined, also loved teh review, so much hype coming in a few months, can't wait. Also proud to hear Korrey staid true to Alethi teachings

  • @tifftargaryen490
    @tifftargaryen490 Před 4 lety +5

    Havent read and dont want spoilers but leaving the video on silent so you get your coin. 🧡

  • @aliebellule
    @aliebellule Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for this! I was nice to explore Book 2 again and hear your thoughts. The audiobooks for The Stormlight Archives are among the best I listened to in terms of narration. Kudos to Michael Kraemer and the appropriately named Kate Reading.

  • @chillingwithsomestories5214

    I’m reading this book for the first time right now!!!! I’m so obsessed with your videos and you’ve inspired me to make book videos too 💛

  • @DryBooks
    @DryBooks Před 4 lety +2

    You should totatlly do this kind of longer video discussion more often! I love it!!!

  • @lupaecainis
    @lupaecainis Před 4 lety +1

    Such a wonderful conversation. Thanks for doing this, Korey. I hope you will do this for book 3 and 4 too.

  • @luminaryprism75
    @luminaryprism75 Před 3 lety +1

    I love so much about this book. So many things made me actually cheer out loud while I was reading.
    My favorites being Kal and Adolin finally becoming friends via the duel storyline and Kal and Shallan’s little buddy-cop journey through the chasms.
    I’m reading through Oathbringer now and just...gah, I wish these didn’t take three years to come out- I’m too invested!

  • @cheps5783
    @cheps5783 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I love the Stormlight Archives!

  • @iveybullard8988
    @iveybullard8988 Před 4 lety +5

    You guys are so cute together! I loved WoR.

  • @pika4668
    @pika4668 Před 4 lety +4

    Yesss something to listen to on my bike ride!

  • @brookelawrence6740
    @brookelawrence6740 Před 4 lety +7

    “things go down on the boat”

  • @yoryo87
    @yoryo87 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video! I liked these long video discussions. You should split your discussion on Oathbringer by parts. That would be amazing!

  • @chrisisbookinit
    @chrisisbookinit Před 3 lety +2

    I never believed Jasnah was dead but I’ve got to say, as convinced as I was, Navani’s grief was gut wrenching to me.

  • @billybilodeau1991
    @billybilodeau1991 Před 2 lety +2

    I never truly thought Jasnah was dead. I read the rest of the book knowing, she could be but more importantly that the characters needed to know she was, and so went about their life as such. Her returning at the wasn’t a surprise for me but more like, yup I knew it.

    • @Akatsuu
      @Akatsuu Před rokem

      Brandon wouldn't have added that bit about how the body disappeared when Shallan left the room if he didn't intend for there to be some doubt that she was actually dead. And Shallan even reflected back and remembered that the body wasn't't there, so she definitely had some doubt about it at some point.

  • @daydev2599
    @daydev2599 Před 4 lety +3

    As one of the people who don't like Szeth, let me give my perspective. To me Szeth embodies a hypothetical trope Screw Doing What's Right, I'm Following the Rules, and I just hate that. From everything we've seen in the books so far, it seems that there was never a supernatural compulsion on Szeth. The Oathstone was just a rock. The thing that really bound him, it seems, was the deep indoctrination into his religion. Therefore, it appears to me like he's an extreme case of "I was just following orders", except it's framed in a tragically sympathetic light. It's tragic, yes, that he was indoctrinated into all this BS, but Szeth is so "argh!" about it. He has enough sense to see the evil of what he does, but still he unquestioningly clings to the messed up teachings of his religion.

    • @MissMokate
      @MissMokate Před 4 lety +1

      "screw doing what's right I'm following the rules" is the cleanest and most succinct way of dividing Windrunners and Skybreakers I've seen

  • @carlsmith4568
    @carlsmith4568 Před 3 lety +2

    WoR is, imo, Brandon’s best work. It is gripping from start to finish. It has incredible moments at the perfect times. Amazing character development, world building, and rising conflict. Absolutely stellar.

  • @humanperson2641
    @humanperson2641 Před 4 lety +5

    You guys are so wonderful!
    Joint review for Oathbringer?

  • @junechevalier
    @junechevalier Před 4 lety +1

    This podcast format but discussing novels

  • @SissouLoveVideo
    @SissouLoveVideo Před 2 měsíci

    I'm so happy you talked about the Hobber scene !! It got me too !

  • @jamielikzht
    @jamielikzht Před rokem

    It’s so funny seeing all these characters names written out being an audiobook listener!

  • @Shellflower1234
    @Shellflower1234 Před 4 lety +2

    You should make a list of best short books/stories! It would be great to have a recommendations for little breaks while reading a longer novel

  • @apoorvajangale9667
    @apoorvajangale9667 Před 4 lety +5

    Kaladin asking his boon with adolin - he was caught up in the moment and all that but ehlokar could have ignored kaladin and given adolin his boon - adolin explains this to kaladin and dalinar thinks it too I guess, basically I love kaladin and I m gonna be all syl abt it if you say that it wasn't a smart move or smthing... 😂 Yesss we love wit!! Shallan is very relatable yess

  • @gsnowboardxx
    @gsnowboardxx Před 3 lety

    Phenomenal review. Far better than any other on youtube pertaining to this book. Not just robotically summarizing every chapter lol. Love that you guys discuss your opinions and what you thought of what happened and where you differed. Pretty much nailed every big point in the book besides Kaladin speaking his next oath which was one of my favorite part but i could live with that considering how well the rest of this review was. Awesome job!

  • @Loganva
    @Loganva Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for your service Corey!!!

  • @annegiii3446
    @annegiii3446 Před rokem +1

    Y'all forgot how Sebarial and Palona were sipping wine and reading books as the war went on a few hundred feet from them

  • @tylerwebb2495
    @tylerwebb2495 Před 4 lety +5

    "slow the audiobook down to 1 instead of 1.2"
    I've never related to anything more in my life

  • @i.m.solomon2280
    @i.m.solomon2280 Před 4 lety +1

    Watched to the end. Your "review" makes me want to finish writing my series now because the character discussions

  • @grabsgranite3188
    @grabsgranite3188 Před 2 měsíci

    I just finished Words of Radiance yesterday. Shallan IS witty and clever, I think she just doesn’t fully know how to bite her tongue. Being the one her father never went after probably has to do with that. I think the only characters tripping over themselves to tell her how witty she is are characters that just meet her and are taken aback by it.....and then Kaladin in the chasms ( I may be mistaken, just thinking out loud).
    The arena scene is amazing, I may have cheered while listening on the treadmill. Shallan’s backstory was amazing, sad, and a gut punch I didn’t see coming (and not sure how I didn’t in hindsight).
    Reading Edgedancer today and will start Oathbringer this week.
    Love the videos.

  • @law4327
    @law4327 Před 2 lety +1

    I love Lopen, mainly because how he is portrayed in the Graphic Audio rendition.

  • @tanyam928
    @tanyam928 Před 4 lety +2

    Love it! Can we get a live action adaptation already? So many great cinematic moments. The arena battle and final battle with Szeth are among my most anticipated to see

  • @onfaerystories
    @onfaerystories Před 4 lety +4

    Now I need to read these books just so I can finally watch you and your husband reviewing it together (I totally get it, I'm married too and the joy you must feel! :D). I'll watch at least the beginning and stop once the spoilers arrive. :P
    EDIT: And it's already happening 30 seconds into the video. 😭

  • @Mike_W78
    @Mike_W78 Před 4 lety +1

    the laughter part is so real. During my time in the army I almost died a few times. One that sticks out was a helicopter was having issues and was basically going down. Just me and 3 other guys and the crew. There was that instance of wow we are going to die. Then I started laughing. Of all the things that have almost killed me just flying back to base was going to be what took me out. I know the crew chief thought I was insane. We made it with no injuries and landed safely but it was pretty close for a bit. Your mind and body reacts strange in those really high stress moments.

  • @tylerdexter4323
    @tylerdexter4323 Před 4 lety +3

    38:49 "her quitty, wippy self" ahaha

  • @Visforelvenshireling
    @Visforelvenshireling Před 4 lety

    You kidding me? I couldn't NOT watch this to the end! Amazing! As always, thank you guys so much!

  • @Slink1701
    @Slink1701 Před 4 lety +35

    Shallan being oblivious about things like jasnah being able to heal with stormlight is an annoying part of her character. The big one for me is that even with what Kal tells her in the cave, she doesn't realize that he killed her brother until someone explicitly points it out to her like 1000 pages later in Oathbringer. She just lies to herself a lot.

    • @joaofarias9986
      @joaofarias9986 Před 4 lety +20

      That's the whole point of being a Lightweaver

    • @TheMakromag
      @TheMakromag Před 4 lety +20

      Part of that, which we get from Kaladin's POV, is that he didn't say why Amaram did what he did. He just said "lust for a shardblade" and honestly, there are many ways to interpret that other than that Kaladin killed the shardbearer and Amaram murdered the soldiers to hide the theft.

    • @katethegreat4918
      @katethegreat4918 Před 2 lety

      Lies! Mmmmm. 😋

  • @lordinquisitordunn336
    @lordinquisitordunn336 Před 4 lety

    I watched it to the end! Please more of this Corey is a joy

  • @storieswithc
    @storieswithc Před 3 lety

    Just finished Words of Radiance as my first read-through. I absolutely loooooved it and I enjoyed listening to you two discussing it! Thanks!

  • @sabrinasspellbookspens5136

    I finally finished this book and rushed here because I needed to know your reaction too. I agree that the audiobook is incredible. I already have Oathbringer and I can't wait to start it.
    One thing I thought about over and over again was how not nosy our characters are. If our characters had been in each other's business more, the group would have gotten together so much sooner. If Kaladin had let his suspicion of Shallan guide him (rather than only watch her when she was around Adolin), he would have found out so much sooner than she had powers. Same with Adolin, if he followed his suspicions of Kaladin more closely after his fall with the Assasin, he would have discovered he had powers. If this was a YA novel (please note, I love YA, just saying), the group would have been united near the middle of the novel and not the end. But then we wouldn't have had the amazing scenes with Shallan and Kaladin trapped in the chasms.
    I loved when Shallan and Kal first meet. And their banter match meeting after was hilarious. I had way more respect for Adolin after finding out he spent time in prison with Kal so he wouldn't be alone.
    The fight with Adolan and Kal in the arena and the fight between Kal and the Assasin above the highstorm are my favorite battle scenes Sanderson has ever made so far. The arena just because it was exciting. And the battle above the highstorm because it was so epic.
    The whole thing with Moash made me hurt so much because I cared for him so much. I honestly didn't think it was him. I thought Kal was mistaken and would eventually find out it was someone else. But when we find out it was Moash... oh the betrayal.
    I kinda predicted that Kal was going to show up on the Shattered Plains for some reason. It just seemed like he needed to be there. And of course, I cheered like a little girl when I realized I was right. I mean he came to Dalinar's rescue before. But everything after that was like one surprise after another. The whole thing with the Everstorm, the Oathgate, and just everything else made for a crazy complicated but awesome ending.
    Also, I need to know what is going to happen to Adolin. No, my poor Adolin. Deadly consequences to come. Finally, I think Pattern is my favorite spren so far.

  • @sheyslibrary
    @sheyslibrary Před 4 lety +1

    I just finished Words of Radiance and finally got to watch this video! Genuinely one of the best books I’ve read in a long time. I really really hope Corey also reviews Oathbringer with you!!

    • @henrywayne5724
      @henrywayne5724 Před 3 lety +1

      Sheyenne Finished it today. My fave book of all time. I listened to the graphic audio the whole of part 5 today. Never has a book had me hooked like that.

    • @sheyslibrary
      @sheyslibrary Před 3 lety

      Henry Wayne - The graphic audio is amazing! The Stormlight Archive has moved to my #2 spot in fav books/series of all time (right after LotR)

  • @heathermoore1395
    @heathermoore1395 Před 4 lety

    I love when you and Cory do videos together. I hope you do more like these!!!

  • @saanvit109
    @saanvit109 Před 4 lety

    Oh my god I 'm so bummed I haven't read this yet because a one hour video of you discussing something with your calming voice and beautifully articulated thoughts, that too with your husband is literally my DREAM :/

  • @owenc2641
    @owenc2641 Před rokem

    This book single handedly cemented Adolin as my favorite character in the series. I loved him in Way of Kings, but almost everything about him in this book was phenomenal and every scene he had was a joy to read. Everyone loves to talk about his arena scene with Kaladin, but one of the chapters that really stood out to me was his first duel with Dalinar’s permission, where he beats the brakes off his opponent with his bare hands just to prove he could. Just a phenomenal character.

  • @venkateshmagham4900
    @venkateshmagham4900 Před 3 lety +1

    I could be wrong but I actually think that Shallan is the one who saved both herself and Kaladin when they fell into the chasm as Kaladin lost his radiant powers before the fall

  • @excalibur3164
    @excalibur3164 Před 3 lety +2

    Remember when Rock kept the stew he cooked for Kaladin on simmer for weeks.

  • @viniciuspego94
    @viniciuspego94 Před 2 lety +1

    Loved your discussions. I super related to your partner by the way. I also listen to all Sanderson's books and when he said "I haven't actually seen the word" and checked it from your book, it was super relatable.
    I also found it super funny how in the beginning of the videos you weren't too happy with his comments and opinions, but then later in the video you accepted them and welcome them super well =)
    You guys are cute! loved the review!