Is Forza Motorsport Good Now? - Nick's Notebook
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- Forza Motorsport has been out for 6 months and seen a host of updates since then, and so I'm taking a look at how it was and how it is now in this new longer format where I get to just sit and talk a bit about a topic.
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You mention GT career mode at 20:00, I can't agree, the career mode in GT7 is the worst thing about that game, not a single race is an actual "race", you start at the rear of the pack and have to pass 15 odd cars which are all lapping 4+ seconds slower than you, it's mundane. Conversely, in Forza, while it's not perfect, with the difficulty at 6/8 I find myself more often than not having good races, last night for example I finished a race in 4th place starting from 12th, with the leaders best laps marginally faster than mine, it's a much more realistic race experience.
That's actually a good point. I actually wasn't clear enough that I liked the general format of the career mode more, rather than Forza's menu-events. As for racing itself, it seems like both of them have some work to do. I would love to get more career races with qualifying too. I wanna try hard to get a good spot and then work hard to try and meet a target. Sort of like F1, if I've qualified 5th I'd love the game to give me a target like... try hold position, or try beat your rival who is two cars ahead or something, not just podium or gtfo.
The cafe menus and the license tests are super fun, nothing like that in forza.
I sort of agree- I want the comfortable CarPG career aspect of Gran Turismo 7, without the bad race design they have going on there.
Forza’s career races just don’t feel right at the moment too. We’ve had a bunch of races this week again where we are on full difficulty and just manage to make the bonus practice time, but then in the race set up it says we will come third or higher unless we pick a starting position of around 12th or more.
Things I'd like to see
Feature tours permanent
Open tour car rewards in the shop once it ends
All open Class available in multilayer
More monthly Cars
Better graphics on xbox and remodeled Cars
I need more to do. Career is funish. Im getting tired of grinding 3 hours to level 50. To get brand affinty. Cut the time in half. 1.5 hours. Its a bit absurd.
Dude complaining about proximity marker when the reviewed mirrors are showing someone approaching the car lol.
I enjoy it, the driving is realistic enough to enjoy it on the wheel, but the amount of newbs is crazy, the matchmaking doesnt work, amd the penalty system punishes the victim 90% of the time
Even if the penalty system was amazing, people would only complain since the 1% of the time it acts wrong feels more impactful than the 99% of the time it's right. I don't think a penalty system in a racing sim will EVER be perfect.
@@CatLover_69 except grand tursimo
I too loved the progression in the Gran Turismo games, but haven't owned a console since the ps2 - I play on PC these days. Looking for any recommendations of racing games with a similar system as GT?
Maby Assetto Corsa with Content Manager - Carrer mod
Its telling when even my predictions of the youtube tag farmers didnt come back around this time saying "Forza is ACTUALLY GREAT NOW" never came around. Genuinely so few people actually play the game. By rebooting themselves "From the ground up" they've further lost any definable identity to the entire car community and are now just know for their game being "problematic". And not in the political way. But in the 'its got so many little problems no one is even bothering to play it' way.
I counted it dead in December. And even though they have made 2 distinctive updates that has shown even a cynic like me that theres still a glint of inspired passion there. I still dont think there is a path forward for the series. Not without significant time, and in their case, money.
The studios story is the same as every other in the industry. Too much bloat, No passion. Old guard are leaving or being pushed out by certain specific interests. and middle management middle managing.
Its a spaghetti mess that leaves everyone holding the bag but the investors and execs.
I normally play at medium settings without Ray Tracing due to performance issues (weak CPU older GPU). Last week I turned RT on and to my surprise I lost nothing in FPS. A couple of hours ago, I turned RT back off and set the game to ultra, and I finally started seeing hits to the FPS. So I settled on high performance settings but ultra car and high track, and the game looks good? This cant be. I see no DLSS artifacts, the FPS barely drops below my soft-capped 75FPS. Thats on Daytona, Suzuka, Hockenheim and Hakone. It looks like they made good on fixing performance on weaker CPUs.
That’s actually pretty amazing, or should it have been like that in the first place? Either way it’s good, but there’s such a worrying trend of “we’ll fix it later” in game development and publishing right now.
The biggest problem is the game doesn't friggin run man, it hasn't had stable performance on PC since day one
Latest update says they did a lot of optimization fixes. Game also went from "will run ok" to "will run great" on the pc app for my computer. Have you played it recently? Thinking about trying it again...
@@willfudge8131 really? that's promising to hear. My sim racing set up has been collecting dust since 3 months ago because the game was running so poorly.
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I was having major problems too with game freezes. Ended up limiting framerates to 60 vsync (booo) but no more crashes mid race
My game has been max settings on a 1080 p and been runnings at 144 frames since February
I find when I notice a lot of rubberbanding on career I wait til everyone bunched up and take the lead car out 😂
I keep going back to it but bottom line is the cars, even upgraded and tuned are just underivable. They changed the tuning. It's too complex. It took me over a year to learn to be a good tuner in Forza Horizon. Now the same settings I used in Horizon do not work in Motorsport. Every car just spins out of control too easy, just touching the brakes! If they wanted to make it immersive they failed out of the gate buy starting with stock cars. No one takes a stock car to a pro track. IT SUCKS!
Microsoft should have closed down Turn 10 and given Forza Motorsport to another development team. Every Motorsport since 4 has been a disappointment. Built from the ground up apart from the cars, AI, livery editor etc. etc.
Hell nah not right now because they are still making fable
@@jrfirefiherI wouldn't trust them to make me a cup of tea
@@jrfirefiher bro what?! 💀 Fable is made by Playground Games
Without Turn 10, there's no Forza Engine and no Forza Horizon. The provide Playground Games with most, if not all car models and many licenses.
@@k.r.99yes got confused 😔✋
Most sequels for any system is "dying" for PS5 and Xbox. Helldivers 2 and Palworld, both original games got to shine. Forza Horizon 5 desperately needs pedestrians/animals so urban areas feel alive like any open world game like GTA franchise. After 4 games still nothing. Hell NFS needs it also. AI cant randomly generate?
The game isn't stable yet even on series x it still crashes graphics are up and down one minute it looks great the other it looks like crap the penalty system is no good we need more gt3 cars and the career mode needs a spark they need to address the multi player theres a lot of manipulation in there so it's never a fair race cars are being modded with cheats .
I've actually started to enjoy the gradual upgrade system in career, it's fun to play around with tuning and find which upgrades gain the best performance. The AI is suitably aggressive at higher difficulty and I don't always finish first, it's actually tight racing
I like the simplistic nature of Forza....it is getting a lot better with every update. I like that it is all racing and really no drifting or hitting bowling pins etc. Definitely would like to see some more content in single player like spec series stuff like that and continue to improve AI and as you mentioned the system of if you are not good in practice you shouldn't be in the race either. Also add a qualifying option in career mode like multiplayer. So yes it can be better but I really am enjoying the game as it is right now.
i have fun with it but still waiting till Assetto Corsa gets on sale (xbox series x) and i don’t really have experience in sim racing maybe thats why i like it
Just wait for ACE
Don't bother with AC ATM.
No
Tuhtututuhdayyy junior
If you own a ps5 and a series x and get the urge to play forza Motorsport, just don’t and play GT7 instead lol.
Turn 10 should just give up. They are a meme farm content now.
TLDR: NO
No, its a piece of shit. Also why doesn’t anybody talk about the menu ui
That’s a good point. The UI could definitely use improvements. I also don’t like that you can’t tell it to set your current car as the show car and also have it be the default for when you choose, as well as when you go to designs and tunes