Family sues Habitat for Humanity for allegedly breaching oral contract
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2021
- A low-income family is suing Habitat for Humanity of Greater Vancouver for allegedly breaching an oral contract promising them a path to home ownership. The couple says they signed papers and started paying an interest-free mortgage issued by the non-profit group, but now fear they may never actually own the property they live in.
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If you're one of those people who are saying that they are ungrateful because they got a home for free: go back to the beginning and replay it again until you hear the part in which the story says "the mortgage they got". A mortgage is not free. If you still think it is, call your bank and ask how you can get a free mortgage as you hear the rep laugh at you at the other end of the phone.
Yes. It's like nobody actually reads. listens or even tries to fully understand.
Things that make you go hmmm….
I know people are ignorant.
I understand , I also know that you don’t need a mortgage to get into Heaven . Thank God 🙏
@@VidWatcher-v4j LOL OK then. You go off and simmer in your own juices over that.
It's a big difference between 250,000 and 600,000. No way is 600,000 an affordable home.
Ya with the CEO making over 300K per year. This is why my policy of no donations for charities who's CEO makes over 130K is validated.
ALWAYS GET COPIES!!! Even film yourself signing them if you have to, and with witnesses if necessary. Every company, establishment, institution, organisation and charity must be held accountable.
Theres no reason that pile of plywood is worth 600k,
Lol never been to Burnaby have you?
it's the land.
This isn't the first time H4H has been in a dispute: not giving copies to people, using pics without permission etc. I went with my sister.... she knows I will ask questions that she wouldn't or gets flustered. I asked them a specific question, representative told a falsehood and I pointed out that it was in the paperwork. They wanted to use my sister and her 3 children in advertising and our older sister, husband and 2 sons were very well known for building homes, condominiums, townhouses and apartment complex's. Needless to say, my sister went into an agreement with our older sister and her oldest son. Problem solved. Never sign a contract without knowing what it means/that you won't get a copy of. Period.
Rule number 1 as it relates to business intelligence... always get COPIES!!!!
yes! just why they didn't get them i dunno O.O
@@LadyUsakoB they might have been just over excited to get a home. I got screwed in a car deal because I was desperate for a car and it was the only placed I can go so they added things I didn't need.
@@nocause5395 same here.... 3-4k car for 12k, lied about damages on the car report.
even our local Canadian non profit groups are sketchy and shady af , smh
One would presume it's the fair market value AT THE TIME THEY ASSUMED OCCUPANCY, not the fair market value several years later when home prices have exploded upwards. Duh.
They had an "oral" contract? and they "signed" papers??.....hmmmmm
This is why you always keep copies of documents. Also if the deal was made 6 years ago the value of the home should be what it was 6 years ago.
Oh ya
You can't keep a copy of something you never received.
@@eattherich9215 Which is why you should have gotten something written
@@nocause5395: but they didn't, so your point is moot.
@@eattherich9215 my point isn't specifically for them. Also, documents can include emails, texts etc.
How could anyone watch this video and still come to the conclusion that they were given a house for free. Are y’all slow?
People...it was NOT a FREE HOUSE...it was a 250,000 dollar house for which they still needed to qualify for a mortgage. And just because your colonial ancestors landed here doesn't mean you should begrudge the opportunities given to others in order to make a life here....alot of Canadian homeowners get help from parents and family in order to cosign etc ... I'm not saying there should not be more opportunities for all to own homes and not pay exorbitant rent but don't hate on this family.
I got zero help from my parents or anyone else. i worked my *** off all these years. If they win this another family in need will pay for it. They are just wasting tax dollars by involving the courts. Who sues a charity? Someone that's selfish
@@arock1999 well if you bought a house thinking it was 250,000 and you could pay your mortgage and then the sellers turned around and said it was 3x the price and you were on the hook...you might be upset too! Any reasonable person would be upset.
@@arock1999 it’s like the point went right over your head. Just because it’s a “charity” doesn’t mean they always do the right thing. Did you even watch the video? They have a mortgage nothing was free the fair market value is the only they are supposed to be paying. Which was 250k. If your mortgage went up that way you’d want to sue too
@@VidWatcher-v4j keep reading
Ok... not to be anything but...there are ppl who have lived in Canada for generations who have never been able to afford a home. And don't start you know exactly the point I'm making
Not minority enough
My mother WORKED for every penny she earned. Never ever did we ask for free handouts.
It looks fishy to me that this family asked for the paperwork they signed and more than 6 years later haven’t received it. That’s not normal protocol in Canada. They may be right that they were misled intentionally. If this wasn’t true, before this aired I’m sure habitat for humanity could have made a stronger rebuttal. I would say the same thing if they were both Canadian born and non minorities. Something doesn’t sound right, and it’ll be interesting to see whether they win this or no.
@@DW_Read They should have been given copies immediately for whatever they signed. I agree with you that nothing is free, but if this family had been given their signed paperwork, a lot would be clearer. If they weren’t given their paperwork, that looks really suspicious to me. It also is in poor taste for HFH to be using their pictures to sell this story as a success when the reality is completely different. So it seems fishy on multiple counts really. And again, I would say the same if this family were Canadian born and non minorities. With the weak response from HFH, I’m a bit concerned that there may be truth to what this couple is alleging. But we will see whether this couple wins or no - perhaps more facts will come to light over time that aren’t presently in this short clip.
Hmmmm….welcome to Canada. Try paying market prices like the people who pay most of the taxes here.
They should be thankful. I am a 65 year old handicapped man with one leg and in a whhelchair. I was not offered a home
And you never will be
*plays tiny violin for the 65 year old handicapped man who was not offered a home*
They weren’t offered if you heard, they are paying 🌚take your sob story somewhere else
Are you hard of hearing too? They weren’t offered a home they pay mortgage just like everyone
Nothing is free.
They have been paying for the last 6 years.
Edit: it's not free they have been paying $1k plus a month for the last 6 years
@@nocause5395 These folks dont read they assume its free it is a loan still and mortgage LOW MONTHLY PAYMENT ONLY
Greed is unpleasant to see. So poor charity gives them a huge home discount but rich enough to hire a lawyer
@GMan5090 Yes I know but still suing a charity for trying to sell them a home at a subsidized cost strikes me as a little ungracious
Shame on you for speaking on these people when you do not know the truth. Ridiculous.
@@ErickaH. care to enlighten me Ericka?
Funny how these new residents come here claiming to be broke but there driving Mercedes BMW and new vehicles with 10 family members living in a 3 bedroom condo thats low income
Getting screwed is part of being Canadian.
They also charge a TON to have a small pre-fab rental placed in your backyard. They charge as much as it would cost to build a *NEW FULL-SIZE* home.
I fully blame habitat for humanity for this. They have done how many of these types of deals with housing. They should have anticipated something like this happening. And also why did it take so long, and why did they not give them the paperwork? That's going to be a really good question to put before a judge. This is their negligence and their opportunistic predatory attempted trying to weasel more money out of the house cuz they knew it the value of attempts at weaseling more money out of the house cuz value went up
Why did they wait a whole year to ask for the paperwork. Get your copies upfront always.
Must be nice to get a cheap home...
Why should a non profit pick up a 350 thousand dollar tab
Oral contract 🙄 and taking oral talk to a court 🙄
A contract does not have to be written to be valid if it can be substantiated.
Realestate law hates anything that is not written down.
you will own nothing and be happy
No Co signing , all family members are deceased , foreclosure’s and selling a Condo just to pay for the Nursing Homes.
Whatever...
Pirates: we demand, free handouts!
Says Christopher Columbus?
Chalk Children: We steal everything and call it our own.
6 years?!
I rented a room wrote out a signed contract got their Id my Id and took a picture of it imagine a mortgage
When I came to Canada no one offerd me free home .. if they did i would have taken it and be grateful ! They got half a million dollar home for 500 hoursof work !! And complain?! I had to work for that 30 years and pay my mortgage!
No one offered this family a free home either... They're fighting over the right to have the mortgage that was promised to them, and the house sale at the price agreed.
They did 500 hours charity work for HFH in lieu of a down payment, which is the equivalent to the amount of hours anyone would work to make a down payment.
You don't seem to have understood the story
How did you graduate from school if you can't even understand a simple news story? Watch it with a friend. They may be able to explain it to you in a simpler way so that you can understand it.
i'm 60 years old born & raised Canadian..because of a disabilty,I was turned down many times from having my own home...I live in a basement apt rent is huge ,,,pay for that house or Iose it...
Well that sounds like a you problem.
@@2Sarah
@@Reina.Nijinsky do u want a medal?
Got Husstle.
i'm not sure suing a charity is a good look for anyone.
Charity can be deceptive
@Pants pretty sure they aren’t worried about “looks” case in point: suing a charity for a FREE house w/no interest rate? Greedy
Pants. What are you talking about. I'd sue god if he tried to swindle me.
@@queennoneya601 god isn't real.
@@Reina.Nijinsky go look at the video again, you sure going to be knocking yourself over the head saying to yourself man wow I’m so silly I should look at the whole entire videos before I open up my mouth.
I threw the towel
In for this in the States decades ago . The American Dream to own a home . I’m waiting for my real home promised to me in Heaven by Jesus Christ . I’m so so sorry for people that have been deceived. 🙏
No papers; no proof. We all have to live with these rules.
Habitat for humanity is an oxymoron. We destroyed them all and made our own lol.
They do a great deal of good
Is this a program open for anyone in need or just new comers?
supposedly everyone, but they're very choosy who they select.
I think, it's designed for anyone who is working low income family with children. It's got started in the United States by Former President Jimmy Carter. I thought the volunteer hours were 500. In the meantime on the waiting list, you have to volunteer your hours and build other Habitat for Humanity homes. It's not free you still have to pay the mortgage and your bills.
I wonder what this people sign?
I did some research and here are the requirements. Potential application must be families with at least one child 16 years or under at the time of application. Canadian citizen or permanent resident. At least one of the application or co-applicant must be employed full time of full time equivalent. Do not currently own real estate. Rent or contribution currently paid towards rent, exceeds 35% net income. You must also have a credit score of 580 or higher.
Why did they waited six years to come forward! I think, the reason they did not qualified because they had "No Credit History" in Canada.
Home owner who collect Welfare have the pay back all the money they received from Welfare or even some from the Disability when they sell their house. The reason Ontario Government changed the law in the mid 90's is that too many people were taking advantage of our system. Also, They put a lien on the property.
@@The_Keh27 yes they are, i got busted up at work and spent 27 years with a law suit with wsib, only for my wife of 9 year cashed out with a court order to sell my land i paid cash when i was18, got my settlement, flood my mobile home, and get a court order to have the total write off check from my insurance company, stole all my life time trades tools sold my tractor. , she make 60k a tear and i live on 1030 cpp disability, and they wouldnt even talk to me.. i live in drafty black mold now for years
Greater Vancouver is one of the most expensive regions on the continent. if you can't afford Burnaby/Metro Mainland, try moving west to Regina. Houses are not free- and verbal agreements are not binding/legal. Verbal agreements also don't have paper involved.....
Habitat for Humanity has been doing excellent charity work across North America for years. No complaints.... until now? lol
In what way shape or form did they say free. They have been paying over a thousand a month for the last 6 years and had been promised a mortgage after a year. They don't want it free
Did. You. Enter. The. Idea. To. Actually. Work. For That. I say. Earn. It. I. Wish. To. See. Your. Lawyer. Insted. Of. Paying. Him. --- pay. Your. Rent. Freeloufer
Of course, entitled privileged same individuals demanding handouts.
entitled for wanting the deal they agreed upon
How come this real deal does it apply to all Canadians. Why do they get a deal 6;years later ....how many fMilies a
So deserve such a deal. Thanks clods...
It's open to everyone
Nobody cares.
That's why u hire a lawyer upon going to sign the house agreement and your lawyer keeps copies and u keep some too that they don't mess around
If you dont like whats happening then move !. You are lucky to even own a home in Canada right now . Try finding anything for the new rate you were given and see if its unfair . Ungrateful Pirates
If you dont like hearing about this, why dont you MOVE.
@@2Sarah to be fair they don't need to move very far....the house has doubled in value....that means if they were to sell it they would have enough in their pocket to move to a different town and buy a house outright and yes there are still homes out there at 250K or less in good shape you just have to be willing to move to a small town with that price range. That would mean they paid their house off in 5 years...After about 15 years I'm still paying for my house.
@@2Sarah They are threating to sue a organization that helps families find homes , and are probably going to cost another family the chance to get a home themselves and you are protecting them with hate ? haha . P.s How would moving help me from hearing about this on CZcams ? lmao . Loser !
@@MrCanuck78 reported the Luna woman for trolling. Have screenshots. Others have too.
@@arock1999according to H4H rules, you have to sell the house back to H4H at the same price it was sold to you. They take most of the equity and only share a small percentage (if any)back to homeowners.
I would jump at the chance to get what they were given...a lot more affordable than what I have
You seem to have missed the story
Since when is Oral Contracts guaranteed and who's word are we supposed to believe? If it seems too good to be true it must be. They can't afford the house? It's doubled in price already....sell it and get a new house somewhere else in another town if you have to....they would be lucky having paid off their entire mortgage in only 5 years. After 15 years I'm still paying for mine. As well this will cost tax payers for the legal fees AND if they win will cost someone else their new home. That's what I call selfish.
hummm now theyare going to sues what they got for free hahahahah , i wonder if they have the same in somalia?
Try learning English first. Then you can critique a country.
clever coming from a....
@@mahbubmo hahahah you are very funny guy hahahah
@@mahbubmo and its NOT about a country , its what THEY ARE !!!!
@@2Sarah wow this Luna woman is a troll! She trolled me until I blocked her 😂🤷🏻♀️
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maybe let the wife talk a little...
Straight up. It's a bit disturbing. Hoping their children can break the chain of patriarchy.
SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. CANADIANS GET THE SAME DEAL .Wjy do you feel that you are different or unrealistic
Wait I have a novel idea, how about these refugees WORK just like the rest of us? 🤔instead of having their hat out? 🤷🏻♀️ I am 🇺🇸 American abd we face the same dynamics here with refugees.
@@Reina.Nijinsky Learn to write correctly before you speak such nonsense.
@@2Sarah huh? Did u find “work for a living” offensive? 🤷🏻♀️ or are u/r a refugee at the free handouts line? 🤦🏻♀️ meh 😒 guess a degree from NYU isn’t worth much anymore 😂
@@Reina.Nijinsky They are working for a living???? so again what you said is nonsense.
@@2Sarah clearly English is not ur first language. U might want to Google wut/I wrote? 🤷🏻♀️
Yep, let the courts decide - All the way to the Supreme Court of Canada if need be.
@@globalwarmhugs7741 They also pay tax too whats your point?
@@globalwarmhugs7741 They will need to pay for their own Legal team
@@globalwarmhugs7741 They are there full time anyways. Plus there are principals involved
@@globalwarmhugs7741 It is not the least bit free. Get it?
@@globalwarmhugs7741 Cool
Right because you should be given a house at half of what it is worth
Jesus is Lord
I’m sure you could get a beautiful place in Somalia for $255,000
Stay in somalia
Put God first .