CS:GO 2011 vs. CS:GO 2021 - All Weapon Reload Animations Comparison
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old reloads: inexperienced ct/t (slower with shaky hands)
new reloads: elite ct/t (smooth and tacticool)
expierienced CT/T that pull the slide or charging handle EVERY TIME they pull the weapon out, realistically ejecting brass every single time
or, you know, they were placeholders
@@maksuzbrojony8221 finally someone brought it up
Cope
@@Kaltrademarked oh I'm sure tons of nerds have brought it up already
Cs:go 2011 animations have a L4D2 inspiration vibe
Eh, I ain’t seeing it.
I wonder why
Makes sense considering they were in development around the same time.
@@Sammy-mp1wr It's actually because Hidden Path who was the ones in charge of porting CS to console, they also worked on L4D2 doing model and animation work. They also maintained CS:S for Valve in like 2008/2009. More than likely, Hidden Path did a lot of the weapon animations for L4D2, or at least maybe the preliminary animations which Valve later cleaned up a bit.
Some background, during 2009, Valve was working with Hidden Path on CS:S and if you didn't know CS:S was the inspiration for L4D by Turtle Rock in like 2005/2006, basically they made some CS:S maps where the T's had knives only and the CTs had guns, like a zombies mod. It looked very similar to the No Mercy campaign of L4D in terms of aesthetic, a city scape of apartments you went through with a set of streets and alleys. By 2007 all of Valve was on board making L4D as a project after playing it internally and seeing the idea's promise. By 2009, Valve was working on L4D2 and likely after having Hidden Path's help on CS:S they asked them for some help to release L4D2 quicker, likely just getting their animators to make some quick weapon animations and environment models for Valve to later refine for full release.
Hidden Path's animators actually have good weapon animations in terms of ideas, they're quick and to the point, pretty good too with accentuating the aspects of the weapon, with some flair to them, but they look really rushed and don't have a realistic weight to them (they're a bit floaty, that's the word I use to describe them), which is what L4D2's animations sort of have as an element to them, except L4D2's animations have more polish than these 2011 animations in an early build of CS:GO. By 2010, Valve wanted to make a cross platform port of CS:S for consoles, as they had just announced Portal 2 as a cross platform title with consoles and since Hidden Path was maintaining CS:S, they pretty much got Hidden Path to do most of the early work, before some of the Valve team stepped on board to help finish and release the game in 2012.
It's amazing CS:GO is even where it is today because for a long while, Valve completely ignored it really and dreaded working on it. They always thought CS as a game was sort of not interesting and too simple. Yet it's their most successful title from a mod and has spanned 20+ years. It's incredibly simple as a game, but continues to be relevant because it has a lot of complexity in terms of mastery. Only now is Valve giving it the love after years of neglect by porting it to Source 2 and it reaching 1.4 million concurrent players. For years, Valve looked at DoTA as the eSport and title worth any attention. If only Valve knew how great TF2 was too as a product, but sadly it lost it's lustre after years of neglect and no pro scene to keep it relevant.
Some weapon models are after all ported from l4d2 to csgo
The fact that the m249's reload hasn't changed tells a lot about its relevance in csgo
...or about valve's care towards it
famas is the same as well
It did change bro
@@Berlinek3232 Yeah, seems like they polished it a bit
@@xarigama6466 yes , stated in the credits of 2012 version of csgo there were 2 mocap actors for cs so the player's action from the 2011 alpha was raw mocap data , they later polish these in the 1.03 version which uses the animations we sees today
2:35 the fuck was that hand?
Ah, bone weight issues.
They basically didn't set the appropriate amount the bone modifies the arm mesh, and that's a consequence.
I mean the 2011 beta was never meant to be played so they didnt bother to fix that
0:32 grips **Shiny**
0:37 grips **W O O D**
And eco 2:48
@@metinbedir713 eco
*FRANK WOODS*
1:05 weapon **Shiny**
0:37 weapon **W O O D A N D M E T A L**
2011 animations are clunky, but the loud "clickiness" of them is more satisfying to me.
Yeah true
I honestly like them more than the newer ones, just my opinion though, if they were polished up I think they would be really good
oh lord i forgot how earrape the old csgo was
1.6 really made weapons heavy and powerful as it is.
If not for gameplay reasons we would have them.
i like so much more 1.6 animations
@@FreGZile Here we have a person who cant run csgo, he is currently high on copium
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1:43 the CSGO 2011 MAG-7 had echo while reloading but the CSGO 2021 had no echo sound effect reloading the MAG-7
What a nice detail
I believe that's from the map
@@Auriee_it’s the same map
@@Ronaldosleftballsack yeah but one is a really old beta version and one is a new remade version from 2017(?)
I hope they mix up the animations a bit in CS2, i think p2000, p250, Five-Seven and Glock should have different animations, like 1.6 did, it adds to the visual character of the weapon.
They should do it with Nova and sawn-off too, the latter should have something a bit less professional, due to it not being a pro weapon really, like character loading the shells with the grip hand instead of the off hand.
There should also be different reloads for partial and empty reloads, while I'm a fan of partial reloads on magazine weapons being faster as a mechanic, they could make both reloads the same length for the sake of gameplay consistency
Tbh. M4 and SCAR animations had potential and I would take them anyday over these magnetic mags the new CS has.
The old m4 reload wouldn't make sense, given that you play as a highly trained SWAT soldier.
@@JackDegle the old anim is still way more realistic than the new one. would be really hard to effortlessly slide in the mag when your life is at stake
@@rubbishnubbish that really depends on the individual soldiers. Since the characters here are Spec ops operators they (usually) wouldn't panic like your regular frontline infantry.
scar has wayy too much clipping but i see your point
@@akhaaneb9710 Its not about panic... its about two things:
1- even highly trained soldiers cant always put the mag in the gun at this speed... especially with gloves... even if You will be training over and over again... You will never hit all 100/100 perfect mags... extra points for handicaping yourself by not looking at the bottom of the gun/ mag slot...
2- ... since they know that, most of them probably dont even try because they risk of hitting the gun with the mag and wasting even more time... its always better to put it close to the weapon and help urself with your fingers
Looks like the famas animation is still up
It looks like they used motion capture to get the direction and movement that they wanted and then went back and cleaned up or recreated it by hand to get a smoother result in the final release.
So they went from horrible animations to acceptable ones? Damn, I don't know what is it, but while Valve does good games, 1st Person Animations always look horrible from them, it's surprising how they haven't nailed them in almost any instances, only some L4D2 guns have good animations, otherwise from Half-Life 1 to CSGO, they have lacking 1st Person Animations.
You have a point, but it's way too exagerated. No, they are not lacking, they are just stiff. I do agree that, cs reloads are a let-down, especially when stuff like tf2, or heck, even hl1 exist. Half life 1 is indeed old and outdated, but there's just a vibe to it, same goes for every valve game, the animations are either slow, but satisfying or fast and confused, since in the majority of valve games the protagonist is not a professional and is probably handling guns using common sense and not practice.
@@Yjg-malaeouron.-uhfn they indeed feel stiff, like, *VERY* stiff, but they also feel like they're almost bare minimum, like whoever animated them either didn't know what they were doing so they just did enough to make them passable, take the XM1014 from CSGO/CS2, it just looks like he's flailing the gun and not holding a gun's recoil, it's silly, or when reloading it looks like he's just moving the shells in circles around, doesn't really look like he's reloading but like he's playing pretend lol, there are more examples like this.
As for the "in the majority of valve games the protagonist is not a professional and is probably handling guns using common sense and not practice" part, it looks like the opposite funnily enough they consistently use more moving parts that aren't really common sense or they move them in ways that would mostly require training or experience with that specific gun (which is actually pretty neat, though mostly unfitting on a game like L4D), for example the SCAR from L4D2, the reload has the character pull out the mag, insert it back and then press the bolt release, how would some random survivor in the beginning of an apocalypse know what the bolt release does? Most would just move the bolt itself to load the chamber because that's what they always do on movies and games (at least at the time), so they do reload more professionally, which is wrong, at least I like it but it shouldn't be.
@@M0D776 Well, i'm just going to say, thank you for being polite and sharing and strenghtening your view on this topic.
Second off;
Yeah, i couldn't have said it better myself, i despite the reloads in cs, though, for some reason they feel oddly good in their own games, but outside of their own titles ( Mainly Gmod for me ) they're exactly as you described. As for the pistols reloads, yes, they're akward, clunky, and unnecessarily 'angry', like, i've never handled a gun but i don't think that someone would need to grip onto the slide with such sheer force, though the only acceptable one is the p2500's, maybe just for my bias for the gun, oh and let's not forget about the USP, it looking like something out of an entirely different game. The shotguns all have the XM1014's problem; Tilted unnecessarily, handled like a softair gun and just straight up lazy animation, but that would be expected out of a 2000's game, right? Point is, CS:GO spanned over many eras of gaming, but it never updated to bring itself up to date, and now that CS2 released, it just feels like cs:s but again, just better graphics but same everything else, and even less soul, they couldn't even be bothered to make the reloads correct.
About your response on my "Valve protagonists aren't professionals", i sadly must agree, but your l4d2 example could be easily dismissed by someone who just sees it and it's roots as a "fun, adrenaline inducing power trip with a well-developed back story", which is mostly what it is, but it still doesn't excuse it's context. About the other few Valve games, we can't really say, for example, Gordon got experience, since most guns in his arsenal got downgraded or were the exact same, since in the SMG reload, he just goes mag in, mag out.
I'm just going to agree with you; Valve game reloads are not bad, but outdated, of them being niche-ly good.
( Sorry if this response has any errors or any repeating sentences, i wrote this in an hurry and my youtube and phone keyboard lagged. )
ump and m4 are funniest ones, the ump is like hees shaking during entire reload, and m4 he has to like calculate where to put the mag lol
the ct and t is now more experienced in the new reload animation
I get the signature animation of "set it and forget it" style but at least make an empty reload with pistol frame remains pushed back or something
The 2021 pistol reloads are more streamlined but positioning is an issue, 2011 doesn't cover the crosshair view when reloading so they got that part right
Bungie and Ubisoft FPS knows how to animate reloads without shoving to your face and block your view during the heat of the moment
2011 animations have the mix of cs 1.6/source and global offensive
3:11 that explains why the sg553 has a mag tap in the 3rd person reloads
the main reason the animations look the way they do in 2023 is because of skin visibility lol
3:05, where do i insert the mag..uhhhh..OH HERE IT IS!
I like the sound getting echoed in older csgo
Wtf!?
Ellis from l4d2 is Terroris in Cs:Go 2011?
Idk
Worth nothing the 2011 anims never shipped, they're from a leaked test build.
I’m not gonna lie an say all old animations n stuff are better, but damn I miss old csgo..
This is beta reloads wat
@@ebony6332 fr this guy is nostalgic for things he didnt even experience XD
@@Hakanoo ok, and,? That doesn’t mean I can’t miss it over what we have now.
@@1Dominic1 It's easy to get nostalgic or want for something you didn't experience.
Because of the thing you had experience you seen it too much, so anything new appear you just like it just because it new.
It's a unconscious bias against thing that you already experience and this happened alot.
Cause you can just look at any Cut/Unused content and see all of the exact same comment without the context of the developers why they was Cut/Unused and just want it because you hasn't have it yet.
Love how 2011 have the feeling of a vr game in it and somehow still look cool
i dunno why i really like the old animations - i like how flimsy they are ngl
Metal Guns .vs. Plastic Guns
The old animations matched the old 3rd person animation perspective of reloading. The new ones don't match the POV animation with the 3rd person animation.
ofc the 3rd person animations haven't been updated in a while if it doesn't match
@@keralralthey all got updated well after the games release, there was a major update dedicated to changing every third person animation because of the hitbox issues
@@freezy2755 ok, thank you for the information
They should've given the choice to players if they want gloves on or off since it would look sick to hold guns without the gloves and just bare hands
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Türk?
New reload sounds are so quiet and unsatisfying. While I know the majority of old sounds were literally from the first game, at least they delivered on the satisfaction factor.
Gotta point that reloading sounds with time became better but i dont really like new shooting sounds. And yeah new animations is probably better. Espesially pistols which had an absolute same animation and sounds of reloading, even there's still some pistols have same animations but they improved them and made new sounds to them.
It's just me or the sound on the 2011 version is alot smaller then what I hear in game.
R8 revolver and CZ75 auto: Am i a joke to you?
that XM1014 looked better in 2011.
THE DUALIES IS THE SAME (the shotguns too)
2011 looks more “cinematic” like it’s choppy mixed with 30fps. Looks like a Hollywood movie taught them to shoot and reload.
Somehow old GO had better handling sounds. It's like Valve forgot that all those bolt release buttons are attached to chunks of metal with springs that ram home with a decent amount of force. A bolt ain't gonna make a tiny click, it's going to make a metallic smack.
Probably so you can still hear enemy noises during reloading
Csgo has always had terrible animations they really need to update them
This is pretty decent, for a source game.
2011 is more realistic but also more distracting, it has details like the weapon shaking when the agent is holding the weapon in 1 hand, or the agent having to position the mag more carefully to make sure it is inserted properly.
2021 is much less distracting and swift but also lacks a soul if you know what I mean
"Lacks a soul"
Wtf are you smoking? 💀
@@Nsodnoajdjksl I mean exactly what I mean. I was clearly talking about the concept of "souls" in the context of religious or paranormal activities. Now bummer off, before I send some of my paranormal soul buddies to the mom's basement
@@emmioglukant we don't have basements on 🇺🇾
Also, bummer is an explosive zombie
@@emmioglukant are you smoking weed?
@@emmioglukantl understand you perfectly.
Even the sounds have more impact but we must go to "realism" in our modern games. Despite everything, l really love old games reload animations, old games still retain everything original and fun.
2011 scar 20 was nice
"Yeah let's block the center of the screen when the player reloads"
I have a feeling that this was motion tracking
FINNALY someone who realized that
@@lightinabox6931I'd love motion tracking reloads
2013 got that popeyes arms
yoo the a4 animation is really cool
The old one is better for me because the sound tells me those guns made by solid material meanwhile today's version sounds just like plastic 🗿
:D
"Comentary"
"End of the commentary"
iam glad they reanimated them
Famas still have shaking hand when reload
no gloves look really great
3:05 why does he struggle so much to put the mag in? it's not that hard bro
and 3:49 this reload is broken in so many ways
It kind of looks like they used mocap
@@DiversionDude Because they did
@@LewdSCP1471A Lol yeah I figured that out later on
I prefer the old sounds but I like the new animations
Even the CSS mods have better animations than CSGO 2
The 2011 CS characters all have Parkinsons
P228 is P250!P228 has CS:S
ssg is scout :p
@@metinbedir713 yes
Ngl the m4a4 animation by far the only one that may be better than the new one, (maybe pp bison)
Remember cs back then have more detail than nowadays cs ?
Alpha's weapon shot sounds so cool
also when cs ran in core 2 duo and no gpu but now even gt 730 struggles to run it
Nowadays cs actually do have correct simple and satisfying reloads
No, you're either delusional or nostalgia blinded if you think this
@@thesquirtof8759 what the absolute fuck is your pfp
cool.
That mx1014 tho
Actually puts in the damn shells
The m4a4 reload honestly looks better b ack in 2011 idk why
cause it was a lot more realistic with the hand shaking and all that compared to the Robin animations we know now
Старый калаш имба
Revolver R8:😢
were the old ones mocapped or something
These old scopes is kinda weird
why is 2011 so zesty with the ak
Old glock is just half life
The counter strike go 2011 have no gloves
3:48 ayo what the-
2011 animations are so shaky and clunky
I still remember how bad csgo was on release lol. Everyone wrote it off and stuck with source and 1.6.
Then skins got added and people realised there was money to be made lmao.
In 2031 weapons are going to be completly silent
The old ones look worse but sound better
sad how the older sounds are still better than the new crap they made to replace it.
I cant believe 2011 five seven and Desert Eagle have better textures.
M4A4 2011 :))
Some shotgun animations looks better
2011 have css sounds waaa
Old cs is OG😢😢
why are old ones are so goofy😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
I really do prefer the old csgo.
P0000??? u mean p20000
Hello
Bro 2011 looks like zula
Cs source is still best
old glock looked better
P90 reload💀
Cs go 2021 pp bizon reload animation, player does not even bother to change magazine, he just remove and throw back the same magazine in.... FAIL
cs go 2015 was better than 2011 yo
Мододец
2021 is win
Naw man I honestly prefer cs 1.6
Not for that m4a1 reload though.
@@rawrbawlz indeed
@@n72372
Imagine using pulling the forward assist to load your ar
This post was made by the bolt release gang
No
At least the alpha deagle mag doesnt clip
cs:s2 came out, I'm disappointed...
2011 god
Valve doesn't have a particularly good animation team.
That’s bs. They have an amazing animation team, they just know nothing about guns
7th
Old m4a4 reload was terrible.
2011 better, i hate new cs
Cs 1.6 reloads billions times better than ant of csgo versions combined
me yanking the forward assist back with all the force in the universe while holding a left-handed weapon in my right hand:
Press the forward assist instead, or play CS:CZ
2011 gay reload
Still horrible 😭