Are You Wrong About Comicsgate? Debunking Misconceptions

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  • čas přidán 3. 11. 2022
  • Ethan van Sciver tweeted four common misconceptions about Comicsgate. Let's go through them! Please leave a comment about what you think. Are there any other misconceptions we missed?
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    Misconception: "ComicsGate doesn't want any politics in comics."
    Truth: Stories with political messages are great, when stories come first, the politics are subtle, and all viewpoints are permitted.
    We're definitely against using comics as propaganda for social engineering.
    Misconception: "ComicsGate is against Variant Covers on comics."
    Truth: Variant cover incentive scams from publishers to retailers, (buy 100 copies to get this 1 special variant) are killing comics.
    Publishers directly offering fans and collectors more CHOICE is always good.
    Misconception: "ComicsGate is against diversity in comics."
    Truth: Everyone should be welcomed into this hobby. When comics are excellent, diversity is the natural result.
    We're against Forced Diversity, where representation is the primary concern, and story suffers.
    Misconception: "ComicsGate wants women out of comics."
    Truth: We want activists out of comics, and that includes feminists who don't seem to like comic books, and demand changes of them to suit a bizarre worldview not shared by the majority of fandom.
    These folks aren't fun.
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Komentáře • 34

  • @Michael_Bancroft
    @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem

    If you enjoy indie comic talk, subscribe to this channel!

  • @DeadEnd4991
    @DeadEnd4991 Před rokem +8

    I've never understood what CG was and why it was hated so much and I couldn't find anything on other that made sense until this video. So thanks for clearing it up a bit for me.

  • @FritziSchnitzel
    @FritziSchnitzel Před rokem +6

    Found you tonight on the EVS stream. Liked what you had to say. Subscribed to see what your channel is about. Cheers from New York USA.

  • @pastmasterdan4080
    @pastmasterdan4080 Před rokem +2

    Comicsgate is a fabric being spun to create a banner of Independence and Creativity! Fly that Flag Proudly 🏴‍☠️

  • @pastmasterdan4080
    @pastmasterdan4080 Před rokem +2

    Mainstream needs to hire people to follow us into shops and scream at us when we make a selection they disapprove of….

  • @pastmasterdan4080
    @pastmasterdan4080 Před rokem +1

    Ethan flashing his Gang Signs ✊🏼🤞🏼🫰🏻🤘🏼👌🏼☝️👋🏼🫳🏼🤟🏼

  • @phillipv.4582
    @phillipv.4582 Před rokem +1

    Dilly dilly! Spot on, Michael. They hate us cause they ain't us! Lol!

  • @system-error
    @system-error Před rokem +1

    4:50 Poland was being overrun by Mongols eight hundred years ago, Professor Debunkerton. They lost half their population! They were just lucky that the Mongol leader died, so the Mongols went back to Mongolia to sort out the next leader. Poland, Europe probably wouldn't exist now if not for that small bit of luck. The Mongols were absolutely BUMMING them eight hundred years ago!

  • @blue_samurai_zero
    @blue_samurai_zero Před rokem

    Variant covers: "Very rarely is someone forced to get something they don't want to get something they do want." (I wouldn't use "forced" because there's always the option to buy nothing.) Yes, it's about having variants available rather than having to buy one in order to be able to buy the other--that the latter variant cover "requires" the prior cover. This is what Ken Rocafordt did on his 1st campaign, making variants B & C available only in bigger packs with the main A cover or the main cover and B variant, respectively . I chalk it up to him not being given memo when he was limosuined into the scene. It was the opposite of what CG was supposed to be about, but the halo effect meant no one could call it out. Those with the big enough names to call it out didn't do their jobs. So, the scene mostly nodded along with whatever the bigger names didn't mention.

  • @66bub
    @66bub Před rokem

    Dude in the comic at 7:46 spitting FACTS. Oh, wait, he's the villain? lol

  • @dunringill1747
    @dunringill1747 Před rokem

    Great summary, Michael.

  • @pastmasterdan4080
    @pastmasterdan4080 Před rokem +1

    You really like things named “Mel”

  • @Michael_Bancroft
    @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem

    Check out the CG Trackers site here! creatorgo.com/cg/

  • @Gotblade
    @Gotblade Před rokem

    For the sake of modernity shouldn't there be cell phones in all historical pieces? Isn't it the same thing? Without the emotion as distraction does any of it make more sense than this?

  • @resistancepublishing
    @resistancepublishing Před rokem +5

    Now that the woke has fully infected everything except CG, and refused to back down, I think people are starting to come around to seeing that Comicsgate was right. I see people who were hating on CG starting to voice Comicsgate talking points (they still hate cg). they’re scared to give credit to CG or admit that CG was right but we don’t care about getting credit. We want entertainment

    • @RandySiplon
      @RandySiplon Před rokem +1

      This is because everything has gone to complete shit and you don't have to be a conservative to see that.

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem +5

      Soon they'll say they were making those arguments from the beginning!

    • @86jpw
      @86jpw Před rokem +3

      @@Michael_Bancroft I see a lot of hate going after gg to. Both seem to be right. CG and GG.

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem +2

      @@86jpw I was there in GG too. It was absolutely right, but ultimately impotent against the machine it was facing. Still had a positive impact on the counter culture though. Red pilled a lot of people!

    • @resistancepublishing
      @resistancepublishing Před rokem

      @@Michael_Bancroft yea well I’m waiting for that moment to happen. The internet never forgets and there’s receipts. I’m calling that crap out. Only thing worse than a hypocrite is a liar

  • @teejay8212
    @teejay8212 Před 8 měsíci

    its only being label that because the creators that are against it are using the word "WOKE" using it wrong I might add, in every way possible.

  • @michaelhart4127
    @michaelhart4127 Před rokem +1

    I always agreed with most of your points, but the behaviour of Ethan’s CG keeps getting worse and more Sjw like, relentlessly harassing people like Nerdette, calling for pros to be fired etc… and on Evs’ recent stream someone called a black guest a d-head and fa**ot with no censure 😮… is it any wonder you’re accused of bigotry?

  • @RandySiplon
    @RandySiplon Před rokem +2

    If anyone can change people's minds about CG it would be you, Bancroft. You're a great ambassador because even when you are being negative about wokeness or leftism you sound like such a nice guy lol

  • @pastmasterdan4080
    @pastmasterdan4080 Před rokem +1

    My T-Shirt says, “Alpha Male who gives ⭕️ fecks” 👈🏼 self censored for your protection

  • @petercolp5016
    @petercolp5016 Před rokem

    People who saw Trump win are still trying to hurt those who voted for and still support him. Comics became political. By the way, where do I buy comics anymore? I can walk down the street and buy movies, music, and video games easily. Where the comics at?

  • @enriquecabrera2137
    @enriquecabrera2137 Před rokem

    This is just an opinion and its definintely a personal taste type thing but have you considered playing your Painted Death trailer at 1.5 speed? It sounds very good with a slightly faster pace. Give it a listen, im probably wrong but worth a shot. 1.25, 1.5, whatever.