The Rise and Fall of Dead Rising
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Few video game villains are as versatile as zombies. The number of settings that they can appear in are unlimited. The range of powers and attributes that they can possess are vast. And because they lack a pulse, the ramifications of killing them are nonexistent. When Nathan Drake murders hundreds of mercenaries in Uncharted, one can’t help but wonder whether he is truly a good person. But when Leon Kennedy does the same to the undead in Resident Evil, there’s no question as to Leon’s righteousness.
The only major downside to zombies is that because of this versatility, there are no shortage of games that feature them - and because there are no shortage of games that feature them, their presence alone is rarely enough to make whatever they’re part of feel special. Few games from the mid-2000s were more acutely aware of this than Dead Rising. The brainchild of Capcom’s Keiji Inafune, Dead Rising cast players in the role of Frank West, a photojournalist-turned-vigilante who tasks himself with discovering the scoop of a lifetime in a zombie-infested shopping mall. While many players picked it up because of this premise alone, most stayed with it when they discovered that underneath laid a challenging, yet deeply rewarding gameplay experience; one that exacerbated the danger of its zombies with a stringent time limit, and an unforgiving save system.
When the dust around its release settled, the industry had crowned it one of the most unique takes on the genre, and a solid demonstration of how the seventh console generation would be able to take the medium to new heights. Yet Capcom was dissatisfied. It felt that Dead Rising could have been better had it leaned more deeply into its Western design elements, and that its development team had been unable to do so because it was almost entirely Japanese.
As a result, the company would enlist Vancouver-based developer Blue Castle Games to take over the series in its stead - a decision that helped improve it in the short term, yet stripped it of everything that made it unique in the long term.
This is the rise and fall of Dead Rising.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
2:20 Dead Rising
15:24 Dead Rising 2
26:18 Dead Rising 3
33:38 Dead Rising 4
39:32 Outro
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This is super useful, thanks man!
This is pretty cool of you. I don't think I'd personally use it since i love being able to experience these series all over again
That's amazing
This is like the most wholesome thing any youtube channel has done in a while
It's strange that capcom thought their original dev team didn't understand western culture, when they managed to capture the 80's camp horror spirit perfectly.
perhaps that was all the knowledge they were limited with.
@@scribeofsolace limitations breed creativity. Cliche and trite are not things in gaming, unless it's what they did towards the end of the series there by trying to NOT be/do that
@Uncle Ho I agree with that. I've been playing the surge and remnant from the ashes, both AA games.
@Uncle Ho Yeah. Im sitting here bored as can be. But have put hundreds of hours into the MCC for pc, and Destroy all humans remastered. They are far away from the current faire of AAA games, a bit timeless design imo despite imperfections.
Inafune made a good a point about being innovative and not becoming stagnant. However it was Capcom that moved too fast with his idea. But in the end Kenji was right. At the time Japanese games were indeed slowing dying and the western market was booming. By appealing to the western market is how games like Dead Rising came into existence. Capcom however instead decided to neglect it's Japanese devs and go all in on the western ones. Dead Rising 2 was perhaps a great example of a western Dev team keeping the spirit of the Japanese creators vision while adding their own into the mix. Dead Rising 3 was the result of the team throwing all that out and instead jumping on the gritty depressing realism that sadly plagued the ps3 and 360.
''How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"'can be used here too...
The fall started on DR3.
You could feel that there's no love & effort being poured into it.
The extra small details in DR1 & DR2 are replaced with the lousy "Make the characters look good" decision.
The "First time?" meme as well
It already started 10 years ago when EA killed off Command and Conquer, Dead Space, Call of Duty, Battlefield and so on while Blizz killed WoW
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi How is EA related to CoD? It's Activision's brand. Both companies are trash nonetheless
Puella Magi Homura Akemi i’m still waiting on an actual Tiberium wars sequel
You know what’s weird? I loved Dead Rising 3. The first game is my all time favorite but the third game is my second favorite
3 is hysterically underrated for no reason. That game _rocked._ I loved it. It still managed to be wonderfully goofy, but in a way that really charmed me _and_ made me care about the characters. I connected to Nick a lot - both because I’m adopted (Nick Ramos was an orphan) and “Nick” is a nickname of mine in real life. It felt real with the character interactions, but not like anything was forced or overly-stereotypical in a way that ruined the charm of the characters (which I feel happened to Vick in DR4, she just turned into an annoying and preachy teenage stereotype). Having so much time to explore a massive area that was still filled to the brim with zombies was awesome, and somehow made driving around the world feel really badass and hilarious while also being productive for my adventure. Plus, no more cancerous escort missions. Say what you want, you elitist DR1 cock-sucking fanboys - escort missions _SOULD NOT EXIST EVER._
Same here! I thought 3 also had the best bossfights in the series. I do agree it could have been more colorful and difficult but I still had a blast
My man LNG on a dead rising 3 video??
That's weird indeed.
I went back to play Dead Rising 3 recently, I didn't even realize the so called side missions you could play, 1 was the choice of using a Special Ops solider? so cool. I still need to beat it, but I don't get the shit this game received even at launch. it's tons of fun.
Aside from Franks horrible portrayal, what absolutely killed 4 for me was the blatant lack of detail and polish everywhere in the game. It no longer felt like a next gen freeform sandbox.
If you haven’t already, I recommend the crowbcat video comparing the first and fourth games. It’s amazing all the basic details they cut out from an at the time 10 year old game.
They said it was "necessary" to strip a lot of things from the previous dead risings, yet they didn't replace those systems they ripped out with anything, which made the game feel so much more empty and shallow. Did they really think just mindlessly killing zombies was going to hold up the game entirely?
What killed 4 for me was their was like no psychopaths like those boss fights were so cool and essential to me
@@jaredcowling9176 That is exactly what did it for me. I was excited for this psycho Santa in the Christmas tree lot and what the cut scene would be like. When no cut scene happened I was very confused and then annoyed. Played the game a little bit more then stopped when I learned that there were no psychos or their cutscenes.
@@sanddoom2089 yea it was like one of the best parts were taken away for no reason
"We're going back to series' roots" is one of the biggest red flags in the industry, especially if developer is completely different
Mostly, yes. Doom 2016, Tomb Raider reboot, Overload and Max Payne 3 worked though.
And I know, id made all Doom games but none of the original developers were involved in the reboot.
@@jpsilkosuo9030 people say Max Payne 3 isnt as good as the first one
I’m of the opinion that Retro studios’ take on Metroid and DK Country outdid Nintendo and Rare, the original devs of each respective series.
Resident Evil 7 is also basically a good reboot.
Dead Rising 1 was such a marvel of a game. The writing, the characters, the music. It was such a nice package.
1000% agree.
The controls were still trash though
1 was the best.. the rest i didnt care about.. were more like cheap cash grabs
I agree. I have a lot of hope that Capcom will allow Dead Rising to have a return to form now that it's gone back in-house. Capcom Vancouver ruined the series
2 is pretty good as well
It was so insane when this game released. Me and all of my friends couldn't believe that you could literally pick up any object
I've covered wars ya know.
Dear dead rising. Why did you fall?
>back to our roots
>we looked at the feedback
>we asked the fans
this is what corporate insecurity sounds like.
@K W well in dead risings case you dont remove the aspect of the game that makes the game what it is. You take the core aspect of the product and you go look at the 3 or 4/5 star reviews and find out what would have made the product a 5 for those people. if it doesn't change the core of the product you can improve on it. using a knife as an example. if people complain that its not a fork... you ignore those people. if people say it could be sharper or it could use a serrated section you can listen to them.
@K W its kinda funny, if they would say that instead of we have talked to the fans etc i would have liked that more than the generic usual bussines talk.
I like it more if they are blunt and say how it is rather than talking around it and saying what every other bussines would say in that situation.
Thats what killed deadrising for alot of people, the disconnect feeling of player to game studio.
Deadrising didnt feel like deadrising it was a different game with the same name.
it just seems weird that they didn't do what they focused on for advertising, if they didn't bother calling him frank and was just like "yeah here it is take it or leave it" it'd probably have a cult following instead of what it does now
No, that's 100% planned and reassured marketing. They know saving money on the game its self but spending more on marketing is what makes them the most money in the end
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God I want another Capcom developed Dead Rising so bad. The series deserves the Capcom touch again.
Imagine the RE Engine on Dead Rising! My god the gore!!
Yep.. DR1 was the only one. Even DR2 didn't quite delivered the charm of the original.
@@thiagovidal6137 Yeah, gameplay aside, the side stories of DR2 felt like an American sitcom, gone was the charm of the original.
Let's be real though, one of the main reasons dead rising was so good was the "no going back" (almost From Software style) save system, something that Capcom doesn't do anymore.
@@Ahmedbohamad The RE engine can't handle that many bodies on screen. In the RE3 remake, they had to despawn enemy bodies within seconds after being killed in some sequences and we were only seeing 15-20 on screen at one time in those.
“Chuck’s motivations are more sympathetic, but we want West back”
“We got West back, but his motivations are not as sympathetic”
I know that it was not that simple, it just made me chuckle
Dead Rising 1 is definitely the best out of all the games in the series, but 2, Off The Record, and 3 are all still very good games. We don’t talk about 4.
The first 2 games definitely deserve remakes
Dead Rising 1 is my favourite game of all time. It blended, horror, comedy, character development and serious moments perfectly.
lmfao so right, no one speaks of 4 lets all forget about that one
and 3 was fun because it made the game alot easier and accessable for more people and i respect that
@@deshaunfortune912 honestly just forget about 2 and just remake off the record it was superior
The test group for DR4 should not test games anymore.
Kenn Hua Should I mentioned executives constantly around DR4, which led the game go through a constant change and remove?
@@fernie-fernandez Yeah the idiots in charge wanted everything but Dead Rising.
@@quesocoatl21 CAPCOM Vancouver wanted to make newer IPs like an alien invasion in Brazil, a Destiny game before that game was a thing, so on, and reviving old forgotten CAPCOM games like Dino Crisis & Onimusha.
As for Dead Rising, they wanted 4 to be a completely different game in tones to Last of Us with a more grounded tones...
I blame CAPCOM Japan for both limiting their communications with Vancouver and rejecting ideas that never came to be.
I feel like in recent times they barely use legitimate testers... And it really shows in a lot of games that have come out nowadays. Everything is just not as polished and not consumer friendly as it used to be and I feel like a change up of testers would be beneficial. Then again, as I was going to mention earlier but reminded by watching more through the video, companies don't really care for their opinions sometimes.
Naw, use them to find out what NOT to do.
It's a shame that Capcom had the mindset that their games being developed in Japan was a bad thing.
What I loved about their games was how unapologetically "video gamey" they feel. An inhouse Japanese developed game, made for the western market never fail to entertain. I'm glad Capcom has largely embraced having all of their titles being made in Japan because their recent titles sure benefited from it.
To be perfectly fair you have to take this into context that the late 90's and early 00's was when western games (specially pc gaming) started to get really big and this was around the time video game outlets and magazines were going "Japanese game is dead long live western gaming!" seeing as Jp games felt "stale" and so forth.. so not exactly misguided thinking. Of course they went far too much the other way that they lost the reason why folks tended to buy "Jp" games.
Now a days the reverse is happening. More people want Japanese games because of their minimum western influence. Western games try to hard to be politicaly correct. The erotica score and the female zombies giving you head would be decried as sexist because the game was made by straight Japanese men with a sense of humor.
The ps1 game Incredible Crisis is a good example of that though not done by Capcom. batshit crazy game
Pretty much what Konami did to Team Silent and Silent Hill.
@Shaman Xeed
> Name and avatar is a reference to Japanese manga series
> Calls Japanese media garbage, and other people weeb losers
Get better bait, troglodyte
"Okay guys, people loved our first game! So to follow up, we're going to remove everything that made it unique"
~ Every game studio in existence, defnitely.
parasite eve is a very sad example
Dead Rising 4 was such a disrespectful game shat out to the fans.
It had no soul.
You mean 3? 4 at least tried something more. 3 was horrible
@@crashpal Something more?
It had less.
Less weapons.
Same boss fights.
Less combo cards.
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crashpal whats with the continuous hate on 3? 3 is agreed to be one the “better” ones, 4 is definitely the worst one of the franchise
I think it’s the best one by far
"Capcom is a company best known for series like Resident Evil, Megaman or more recently...Dino Crisis."
Jesus Christ, how times flies !!
...I want a reboot, please Capcom...
Raptors and T. rex in the new RE engine? Hell yeah.
Should have been that over RE3.
it would be awesome and terrifying to see Dinosaurs in RE engine.
people have been dying for a new Dino crisis game.
I have no idea why they haven't rebooted it yet. It's almost a guaranteed success for Capcom
I like how he thought Dino Crisis was more impressive to talk about than Street Fighter
🙋 I'll take a new Dino Crisis
7:45 average? He's covered wars, you know.
😂👌
"Wars not make one great" - Yoda
@@elwyn5150 unless they're covered.
@@IhatenaldsMcDo you know.
"Average". Knows every martial art. Can do backflips and throw extremely heavy items a good distance with little effort.
DR2 is my favorite in the series but the first one was a trend setter. In a sea of zombie games Dead Rising stood out. I'd love to see Dead Rising come back
DR2 is underrated... That was my first dead rising game and I liked it very much!
Yeah I loved DR2 and OTR. I enjoyed OTR's sandbox mode since it was pretty much what I wanted in a Dead Rising game. Just mess around and have fun. I loved that you could also play that and bring in the money and levels you get there into the story mode. Didn't like having to play so much then getting the bad endings just to get the good one.
Had to do some scrolling to find someone who shares the same sentiment
@@haaxxx9 EXACTLY@ i sister from scottland came over for one summer when i was a kid and that was the game she got me, my computer couldnt play it at the time but remember when i was finally able too and it was alot of fun.
DR2 doesn't get enough love, everyone always focuses on DR1. in my opinion DR2 is better then DR1 in everyway.
dead rising was made to do two major things
1. bring western and japanese closer together
2. make slow zombies scary again
dead rising 4 fails at both by being too western and the time limit making zombies way less frightening
I did speak to a Capcom representative back when Dead Rising 3 was shown at NYCC. They told me that Microsoft provided them lots of money for the project and when I told this to a developer showing off the game he was shocked to hear it.
So you ratted on the employee?
@@RobustNut He's implying the money allocated to the developers was only a portion of the money MS paid out to Capcom. It's likely Execs or other higher ups pocketed quite a lot.
Capcom did the same thing with Sony for Street Fighter V. Of course that ended up being a dumpster fire as Sony was too impatient to read Capcom's damaged reputation in the fighting game market. I even successfully predicated that Pokken Tournament on Wii U is going to outsell SFV.
9/9/99 It's Thinking Where’s Pokken Tournament 2 when you needed it?
@@Noname15514 SFV has almost sold 5 mil. That's not bad at all.
Why are companies so scared to make players actually face consequences in their games? Things are only important if there is real risk involved.
That's how I feel about Bethesda lately. Part of the fun of Fallout: New Vegas was seeing "quest failed" when you did certain things. Faction reputation, quest completion, NPC deaths, could all lock you out of certain quests and it made the game way more replayable.
Fallout 4 doesn't really have much of that until you get to the "point of no return" faction war quests, but you're pretty much in the endgame by then. You're better off reloading an old save if you wanna go with a different faction instead of restarting, because almost all of the early game is exactly the same.
because it won't sell to modern audience
@@hemangchauhan2864 It will sell. Focus testing is cool but you have to know how to read between the lines with the data collected. It's like analytics in sports. The ability of the person using the data becomes very important.
@@rocstarang5747 Didn't expect such a nuanced answer here.
Pretty much, and I've many games this generation do that without losing their core.
@@hemangchauhan2864 appreciate that. I'm "old" and the YT comments section is my covid stand in for the bar. Cheers lol
We need another one. We can't end on Dead Rising 4 with Hank East.
hell no
it would be even worse
DR died on 4th game, It's Reboot time.
@@kenetickups6146. How ? Development has returned to Japan. It most likely would be rebooted anyway seeing as DR3 ended on a Canon note and nothing was really added in 4. Actually, a lot of the lore was broken in 4.
@@Deadsea_1993 then you just need to erase 4 from the canon and create the real dead rising 4.
@@maxelsstellh7687 This is not an original idea but I hope they entertain the idea of 4 bieng a movie and Frank being pissed at how piss poorly represented he was and eventually make the Frank from 4 a psychopath that you need to fight.
i'll never forget my brother's absolute devastation after playing DR4. It broke his spirit to the point he's adamant that the series MUST be rebooted. Stayed the hell away from it and never looked back
It's kind of ironic having a franchise called 'Dead Rising', having it rise and ultimately having it fall / dead.
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The story does have lore. That lore is filled with plot holes and unanswered sequels hooks that mostly all got resolved in DR3.
@bigevilworldwide1 same here... It is just mindless fun,nothing spectacular about the game which fanboys are hyping to be
Dash Attack yea and plus who’s really playing for the story its played to kill zombies and the boss fights no one expects dead rising to be a complex story i mean hell you can have ur character in a dress in cutscenes it’s a goofy game gonna miss it won’t even touch 4
Dead Rising 1 is a master piece, never replicated. It's charm, details, difficulty and environment is totally unique
Tbh the only one i didn't care for is 4. Also, unpopular opinion time...i liked the follower board in DR3 and was hoping that would return. Was kind of fun wandering around with your favorite survivors killing stuff.
yeah my favourites were Dead rising 1 as #1 and my #2 is DR2 Off the record i loved sandbox mode haha
Not a master piece with that crap ia
@@enriquealvarez6145 oh god yeah the AI was utter crap haha 😂😂
Cool choice guys! Must've been fun to replay these games.
Hi, Nick930, huge fan of your comparison videos! Keep 'em coming!
It would be funny if Capcom does do another dead rising it would consider 4 non-canon like the Devil May Cry reboot
just say 4 is a movie that exists in universe and talk about how bad it was like what human centipede does in the sequals
Lying Figure Holy shit that is a good idea that it’s a movie based on Frank West but gets everything wrong
I would love to see DR4 Frank West in a talk show but then the real Frank West comes out and exposes him as a fraud as dr4 Frank West is actually Hank East
The first game is so technically impressive on all fronts, and just damn fun to play. Really makes me sad seeing what happened to the series as things went on.
Gotta miss the old xbox 360 days. I remember seeing Deadrising 2 during the E3 of the year and I was like wtf is this? Completely different developers
Technically it was fucking ass haha because of the AI but everything else was great it’s one of my favorite games
@@rastas_4221 At least you played the best ones, and Yakuza kicks ass in general, glad that was consistently good all the way through
@@Slurpified Everyone was hyped about combo weapons and I just wondered what happened to Frank. Thankfully it was still pretty decent imo
@@itschrispychips2012 the AI was definitely questionable at times, but I thought it kind of added to the charm. Glad you still enjoyed it!
...look at how they massacred my boy, Frank...the best was Off The Record...
Tell me about it...
Off The Record is slept on
Don't worry capcom will bring me back.
@@frankwest9304 Frank, Buddy. I love you. Sshhhh, it’s gonna be okay
@@frankwest9304 tell me bout the rabbits george.
Kinda like Saints Row. Started great but became over the top stupid in the end.
A Drunk Giraffe yeah. I’m hoping the next instalment that has been confirmed goes back too it’s roots and is more like the first two in the series.
Yeah no, Saints Row 1 was bad
@@geoffreyboutayeb I wouldn't say bad. But really frustrating, however Saints Row 1's multiplayer was a fucking masterpiece, I will never forget about Protect The Pimp.
And then we got Saints Row 2 which is a perfect sequel in every way.
Saints Row 3 was medicore, but still fun.
Saints Row 4 sucked monkey balls.
@@fredster594 Saints Row 2 and 4 are the best
@@geoffreyboutayeb Yes Saints Row 2 is.
It'd be cool to see a Dead Rising game in Tokyo or a Japanese location
I think it would be cool to see an actual Dead Rising game, not the shit that 3 and 4, and whatever you may call the other one...
Bro 3 was pretty alright but 4 was fucking dogshit
I think this has already been done by the guys at Sega, the game: Yakuza Dead Souls. I would be more interested to see Dead Rising in a Dubai Mall.
Why? The location wouldn't do much for the game it'd still be killing zombies, but in Japan
@@TheKueiJin wait there’s a nuther one
I always felt that this game title was like zombie version of GTA. If you follow the story, it's really deep. But when you're on the free roam, all hell break loose and went hilariously chaos.
Japanese game studio creates amazing series based on western horror...the later installments are ironically ruined by the involvement of Western developers....man, this happens pretty often.
Whenever I hear devs trying to "appeal to a wider audience" it just becomes a case of making the game easier and less unique.
@@caldw615 Yep, like with Lost Planet and DmC.
Would you believe that Inafune shifted mid-tier games to be made in The West so the company wouldn't be burned-out through one creation or another...
However, when he left CAPCOM, the company presumably tried to kill the IP, but CAPCOM Vancouver had a lot of planned IPs that never came to be...
@mc coolarge To be honest, most of the Canadian developers are made of EA and Ubisoft employees...
There's some studios that promising in Canada like Crystal Dynamics Montreal and CyberConnect2 Montreal as well...
I really enjoyed dead rising 3. They’re all good until 4.
I loved 3. Enjoyed the gameplay/mechanics a lot, and story coop was fun and easy. I have not tried 4 yet even tho I have it, I hear coop sucks for 4 :( as no story coop.
3 did poor due to peoples systems not up to par and hardware issues. As this game for picky for cpus and gpus.
@Mister MAGAnificent Have you played dead rising games that were made before 4?
@Mister MAGAnificent Why you think 4th is the best one for you?
@Mister MAGAnificent If your bored you can go and play Dead Rising 3.
@@KawaiianArgument I bought it. It's the first one I'm playing because it was on sale. But... After seeing the reviews.... I wanna cry. I did the same mistake with Just cause 4😢
While i understand people don't like 3, it is by far the best title in the series for me and the first one to really grab my attention. I played 2 first but that game never rly clicked with me too well even tho it was still fun and Chuck Greene is a good protagonist. However, 3 to me felt like Capcom at its best and such a huge evolution from 2. Nick felt like a real person experiencing a zombie outbreak and the story as a whole was pretty damn compelling since it ties so heavily to the first game when it comes to the antagonists especially. Idk man, i see so many comments that Dead Rising 3 took the series downhill, but i didn't see it that way. That game will never become old for me and i think the series should've ended there. It was a satisfying conclusion to everything. I think we can all agree that 4 was jusf sort of underbaked trash and it completely makes the whole plot of DR3 pointless which kinda pisses me off but oh well :/
I also agree. It looked kind of dumb that DR4 didn't follow the plot of the previous game. Like it pretended that DR2 and DR3 didn't exist lol.
@@swinelias So much for Nick being the cure and adding a little bit more depth to Carlito for providing that cure even tho he wanted to ruin America with zombie outbreaks. DR4 basically renders the whole "cure" plot meaningless and it's one of the things that made Nick "special" aside from him being a mechanic. Also, him being a mechanic is literally the perfect tie in to the game's combo weapon system. I always thought that was a major upgrade from how tedious it felt to try to find a workbench so u can combo ur weapons. Anyway, the fourth installment really regressed in quality. It somehow looks worse than 3, it removed psychopaths, and its story is just trying to justify why it even exists in the first place
@@cwonderz8251 Nick Ramos being the cure was actually an interesting twist in my opinion, and it's more or less confirmed that Nick escaped Los Perdidos in Dead Rising 4.. but that's it. Nick isn't even mentioned (as far as I know), the cure is almost made irrelevant, and the story hardly expands on Carlito's plan whatsoever. Instead, the story follows a bunch of meaningless characters that I honestly couldn't care for. And why remove the psychopaths? They were one of the best parts of the earlier games.
@@stormichow5325 my thoughts exactly. DR4 should've been a whole lot more or should've just left the series at 3. It was a perfect conclusion to the series
Wow, Lost Planet out sold Dead Rising?? I remember everyone playing Dead Rising and seeing Lost Planet in bargain bins fairly quickly.
I like lost planet, it was a cool game, but out sold dead rising - that's nuts!
Can we get a Rise and Fall of Radical Entertainment's "Prototype"!??
Yo for real I'm still salty we're not going to get a prototype 3 anymore
@@shepherdy1738 dude you telling me, I'm hoping they'll still do it🤣
@A Drunk Giraffe 😆
@@VermillionThaKid fingers crossed that someone revive the series
I wouldnt say it "fell", Activision just had unreasonably high standards for the sequel, and since it didnt met the expectations in sells, they just basically said "shut it down". So it's not really Radical's fault the game is what it is, it's I believe just becaue Activision got pushy and greedy
35:50 "to ensure these sequels would come..". Well, Dead Rising 5 was cancelled and the studio shut down. It's kind of ironic that these very changes they made to ensure the sequels is what ended up leading to the series' downfall due to low sales.
Frank Westing: The act of beating the crap out of zombies/random mooks with anything you can get your hands on.
Chuck Greeneing: The act of beating the crap out of zombies/random mooks with an insane gadget of destruction you just made yourself.
The prisoner theme is still amazing 14 years later.
Thank you for covering this game.
GONE GURU!
Wwwwelllllll he ain’t my boi but the brotha is heavy
Kalmer Olsen gave away my possessions and moved into a Chevy. Van yeah that’s the master plan, drive into the woods and eat corn out the can!
The Collector Yeah I gave it all away, the hard rock band, the groupies, the booze, the all night jams! Now all these fans askin’ where did he go? Meditatin’ on a rock lettin’ go of the ego
Saw a thirty foot fairy walking down your street, though I was down with god I had to hell "retreat!"
k freals, who is this narrator? Best damn voice for videos of this kind. Never let this man go
His name is Steve, if I recall correctly:D
Reminds me a bit of the Storyteller from the Fallout Videos by Shoddycast.
That's what I always have thought! lol
How ironic is is that the last thing (for now) that Frank appears in is a DLC where he is zombified. Exactly how they used his character, they brought him back morphed and pretty much unrecognizable
Dead Rising 1 really opened my eyes to the actual world of gaming.
Before I played that I was one of those people who only really played FIFA/Fight Night/GTA.
Dead Rising blew my mind, I spent a tremendous amount of time playing it multiple times.
great thing to wake up to! love the "rise and fall" series on this channel. also, good morning to all and hope everyone is well!
Morning from Texas!
When you favorite saga becomes another of the low creativity high marketing, just money, no soul :(
Dead rising 1 and 2 will forever be in my heart.
Same!
17:54 It's crazy how quickly the timer went from being at the core of the gameplay, to non-essential, to being removed entirely. Games are different from movies because they can push back. It's like taking the ghosts out of Pac Man. Taking a slow leisurely walk in a game not made for slow leisurely walks, wears you out very fast. There are no apparent prospects for picking up your controller a second time.
They just kept getting signs that downplaying the time management element was bad, and they continued to keep pushing that way anyway.
Hell yeah! Been waiting for one of these..
I did not expect to see Stipo here but thats really cool 👀
Hi STiP0 I know you probably won’t read this but your contributions towards deadrising is amazing! Keep up the good work and thanks. 🙏
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@@STiP0wow you actually replied back! Thanks
If there's ever a new Dead Rising game being developed, you need to get in there. Lol
I feel like Dead Rising should had been giving 1 more chance in the early 2020s and out of nowhere to surprise people it has one more shot to living it's comeback.
What was amazing about the first one was it's attention to detail, things like bullet holes in glasses when you shot zombies in the head, or liquids drenching surfaces like glass or walls, etc. That game is a masterpiece and nothing will change that
Meanwhile, in Dead Rising 4, you can completely shatter sheets of glass by using a spray bottle. The attention to detail was very terrible in Dead Rising 4.
Dead Rising 3 was the pinnacle of the series attention to detail. Every enviorment is carefully made.
I love how this channel covers everything like even what led up to the moment with previous games and not just focus on the main game of the video
The Dead will never Rise again. 😢 Imagine a remake for DR1 and 2 with the RE Engine.
Digital Kid That would be soooo cool if done right
Don't think it would work because the RE engine isn't meant to be used for a game that has lots of npc's in the same area like Deadrising. It wouldn't be able to handle it.
RE Engine is built more for closed environments with limited NPC's to bring out better visuals and smoother gameplay. I'm sure if they spent the time to modify the Engine for another Dead Rising, they could probably get away with it. Just at the cost of graphical quality . Would be cool to see though
I would prefer the Decima engine.
@@who6242 DMC 5 used the RE engine, and that game had a lot of flashy animations and a dozen or so enemies on the screen at once, but yeah I agree I'm still not sure if the engine can handle hundreds of zombies and huge open locations.
We gotta *respect George A. Romero* for bringing the *zombie genre...*
_Without him, we will never get _*_good titles_*_ that _*_involves_*_ with _*_zombies!_*
Imagine if we had the original George A. Romero version of the Resident Evil movie.
He wanted it to be a recreation of the story, including the famous mansion.
And yet.... we have a shitty series of action movies starring the wife of the director... where she flying kicks dogs in the head after running across 2 walls.
Oh yea... and the psychic teleporty shit...
Yea, fuck those movies.
strider why are you typing like that?
very pretentious
Pretty sure somebody else would have thought of it by now.
@A Drunk Giraffe To be fair, I read this a long time ago in a magazine when I was into horror as a kid to young adult.
It's not that I don't know it would suck lol, it was more the general "what if?" vibe.
I vividly remember seeing a photo of the stairs in the mansion, being a fan of the game and reading George Romero's name and just thinking "I'd love to see that". But, yea, many years later, after being curious and googling to see if it wasn't a fever dream I had as a kid, a) I cant find the picture that was in the magazine so I may have either imagined it or less likely... took a pixelated garbage in-game shot as real life, and, b) ..... In retrospect, it sounded a garbage idea lol.
@@zoned7609 i think it was on a satirical approach to how there's many games about zombies, and not all of them are good enough.
DR2 and off the record were definitely the high point.
this video makes me cry every time, Great Job as always !!🙏😔
Finally! I was waiting for this for such a long time. Great video, man! Like always.
Dead Rising 1 was a legendary masterpiece. It’s gameplay was perfect and it’s story was brilliant. It blended everything perfectly and created a memorable experience for anyone who played it. It was sad at the moments that counted, scary at the moments that were needed and comedy is a big risk in games, so what they did was genius. They made it so WE made our own comedy.
Dead Rising 2 improved on some gameplay elements but the satisfaction of killing zombies slightly dwindled compared to the OG.
Dead Rising 2 case west was brilliant because it added to Dead Rising 2 and gave us (my opinion) the greatest team up in video game history. Apart from Shepard and Garrus from the ME series.
Dead Rising case zero was a nice little prequel but didn’t add a whole lot, it was still nice to have though.
Dead Rising 2 off the record was an amazing spin off story which in my opinion, had better elements than Dead Rising 2. It also added probably the greatest feature to Dead Rising. Sandbox mode.
Dead Rising 3 was very fun with its gameplay but story wise, and acting, it lacked severely. The satisfaction for killing zombies was ramped back up, not to the degree of Dead Rising 1 but in my opinion, the second most satisfying in the series. The main character, actually, pretty much all characters in Dead Rising 3 were very forgettable. The gameplay is what makes this one shine.
Dead Rising 4 can suck a dick.
It was dumb and fun for casual players, heavy and thought-provoking for those who wanted to see the real story and characters motivations
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I agree. It had everything for everyone.
This pretty much sums up my view on the franchise perfectly
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Great minds!
I think killing zombies in DR2 was satifiying just as it was in DR1 but everything else i pretty much agree with you. I think it lose is touched with DR3/DR4.
I hope Capcom takes the right lessons from Dead Rising 3 and 4's unpopularity. Play testing is not the end-all-be-all, sometimes the developer knows best. The limited clock and sequencing of events made 1 and 2 feel tense, and made the player feel a bit anxious when confronted with a mob of zombies. You had to consider how long it would take you to mow through them, plan ahead, consider alternate routes.
When dealing with zombie games you have to limit the player somehow; either give them limited time, or limited resources. Resident Evil gives you limited resources, and almost unlimited time (save certain segments). Dead Rising gave you unlimited resources scattered all over, but limited time. Take away that time and all the tension is gone.
@@KawaiianArgument I agree
@@KawaiianArgument same
I don't like Dead Rising 3 as much as the previous two, but in my opinion, it's at least acceptable (the psychopaths in that game are very interesting).
Dead Rising 4 is extremely underwhelming.
Thanks for giving us your great documentaries in the best visual quality possible. Even recording Wii footage in 4k on emulators for us. These details really add to the experience of your videos and rise their production value to their fullest.
This one hurts. Dead Rising is easily one of my all time favorite games and looking back on it, I really feel it was lightning in a bottle in a similar vein to resident evil or devil may cry
Here's hoping Capcom can do the series some justice in the way they have refreshed both resident evil and DMC
I still got hope for the franchise. Because I've been using this time to understand and discuss and analyze the 4 dead rising games and decide how would dead rising 5 work. I already have the plot, the location, the psychopaths, the music themes, the protagonist, etc.....
Basically I'm listing dead rising 4 as a "Do Not! And the first 3 dead rising games as a" Must do"
How do you think it would work, then?
@@stormichow5325 think about the story from dead rising 3, we now know that nick ramos is the cure and has taken out the leader for the phenontrons company, however just cause the leader is dead, doesn't mean the company is long gone. Just cause nick ramos is the cure doesn't mean that its over. Which other company would want to take the initiative to ensure that the cure is not made. Phenontrons. So thus, the protagonist, a multi billionare investor for the Phenontrons, he learns about the dark truth and the 3 zombie incidents that have happened ( the first three dead rising games) and then you decide to cut ties with Phenontrons, take your life savings and run from this treacherous company. You call your child and wife to inform them to get out. The place is no longer safe. You then rush to the mansion but it's too late, a couple Phenontrons agents have brutal murdered your wife and child and thus you collapse near the bodies, hugging and sobbing.
Then the policemen show up, mistankely they think your the culprit, so they shoot you ( you should definitely look at the police shooting Markus from Detroit become human, kinda like that), thus you awaken in a van surrounded by the swat team sitting there shaming you for doing this such heinous murder (even though you didn't). The swat team also have obtained a vial of the cure in which nick ramos gave , where they are taking it to the distribution center to create more, enough to the cured the unfortunate infected in the 3 zombie infested areas ( first three dead rising games). But unfortunately, a couple of Phenontrons agents ambush the squad and massacre the agents, and they have stolen the cure vial. Now they order operation mutify, in which they drop a nuke and it infects the people with the virus. Now you are awaken and you then witness the destruction and the infection has started. People have turned into zombies and those who have not have either died or in hiding. Now you need to save this city from the mistakes that you made and retrieve the cure vial back.
I also have the psychopaths and their songs planed out but i can't show it you just in case Capcom wants to know about it.
The problem of getting input from an isolated 'professional' group of play-testers have been solved with insider-programs and public beta testing. A lot of the games from the late 2000s suffered from the input of testers that were constantly playtesting various games and had a stale outlook on new concepts.
Thank you for uploading this. You're a great youtuber, i appreciate you.
Dead rising and Dead rising 2 will forever be my favorite games ever made. They were sooooooo good. Then 3/4 were just mediocre
What was even bad about 3, it's so overhated.
honestly, the charm about Dead Rising is the same for Pikmin 1, the crazy limit and annoying AI on top of the difficulty overall made it such a memorable experience that trying to make the future installments "stress free" weren't able to capture
Your documentaries about gaming are some of the best I've seen and you deserve a million subscribers.
i still remember when i first played DR2. i didn't see Frank & i was furious. but then i saw Rebecca & i was like nah she alright.
The fall actually started when DR3 came.
Far less details was done, as if there's no love & effort being poured into it.
YukitoOnline I agree. Dead rising was better when they had small places like malls but when they started putting cities in the game they put less detail in the game.
Agreed. Dead rising 2 was the highlight of the franchise. 3 is fun but it looks ugly, its clunky, the environments are pretty bland with the city aspect, and the characters are forgettable.
@@penguin8730 Honestly yeah. I remember when it was shown in a city I thought it was gonna be awesome! But quickly got disappointed by how ugly and bland it was. The city itself all looks alike minus certain areas. I really hate the roadblocks, seriously why have all these ridiculous huge combo vehicles when you can basically only have it for the portion of the city you're in? It made me miss the malls. Were they small? Yeah but interacting with stuff was fun. Every area of the mall had something interesting. Can't really say the same about Dead Rising 3's city
I never liked ANY dead rising games.. but I liked and subbed because I love these sort of videos that are longer than 10minutes and delve into a franchise history.. GOOD WORK man keep it up!
These videos are literally so well produced I wish you guys had the means to produce more. I will make it my mission to become rich, just so I can fund your endeavors.
Dead Rising 3 was my all time favorite. I was amazed by the graphics on release with my very first Xbox one at release.
I feel like ”Dead Rising” 4’s focus testing was just them grabbing the first guy who walked by the studio and just deleted everything he didn’t like about the game, instead of getting people who actually played any of the DR games.
I think they never had one in the first place... 😐
I used to confuse this channel with raycevik, but omg the difference in quality is insane. Love the work guys. The Metro series vid is still one I rewatch often.
Good job guys! Thanks for this!
To everyone looking for news: I was just told through twitter (by some fan who was as curious as I was) that the writer behind these videos, quit back in September. The reason behind this was the fact that he wanted to focus on actual game development and some podcast.
The director of this channel, who is also the editor, had previously said he had full intentions of continuing the channel when the writer left, but has since been radio silent, even to the writer himself.
So, as ironic as it is to write this in this channel of all things: guess we are living the fall of Gvmers and being left on an unknown future for the channel.
Annddd...they just made a new video on Bully
This didn’t age well lol
I'm always unsure how to feel when GVMERS uploads a new video - happy that its gonna be a great & quality retrospective review or sad that its gonna remind me how a great gaming franchise went down the shitwhole...
Great Video! Keep up the quality content.
Loving these Rise & Fall documentaries. You should totally do The Rise & Fall of The Getaway at some point. But there is so many games that I could list that would be interesting to see
1-3 are masterpieces please dont leave out Chuck he's a hero!
When you just got off work and GVMERS uploads a video 🙏
Edit: Yo GVMERS, I know this sounds weird but have you thought about doing a vid on the company Spiders? Really underrated double AA studio that made Greedfall
jajaja im just having breakfast
@@nagufreeman Badass dude.
@@zyonhenderson67 not a all, its the morning here
That would make for an interesting video. I've never played any of them but I've heard their games can be really hit or miss
AAAA studio?
This channel deserves more love
There's no shortage of games that feature zombies...but not a single one has gotten them right or portrayed them with their correct traits and attributes or established gameplay mechanics that reflect the classic and iconic "rules"...like only head shots kill them...they don't punch they grab and bite and they're dangerous because of numbers.
Their collective weight and mass etc.
It amazes me how so many people misunderstand the relatively simple concept of zombies.
Why don’t they make a dead rising in Japan. Fix a lot of these issues.
I absolutely love DR3 and its tone, but then again I also I prefer the tone of Watchdogs 1 over 2's. My favorite part is just finding new combo weapons and vehicles and slaughtering hoards with it. The 7 mini bosses based on the 7 deadly sins was great.
Oh and DR4 sucked
thanks for the nostalgia. great analysis for one of my favorite series
I love watching your videos. Your voice is perfect! but I always walk away feeling down...lol. I miss the mid-2000s gaming. It was a whole different world
Only finished Sphere hunters video on Dead rising 2 days ago, now I'm in such a Dead Rising mood
Wait she did a video about dead rising 2? I thought she only dead rising 1
@@johnclopez96 Only Dead Rising 1, I was referring to replaying Dead Rising 2 myself and how much fun the game is
I've never been this excited to watch a video about a beloved prematurely dead franchise!
I've only played 1 but loved watching this doc. I remember when it came out, the zombie genre wasn't the overinflated old horse it is now, there really wasn't a proper open world zombie game, and this scratched that itch so well! it was weirdly arcade-ey but so creative at the same time. and to be honest as a 15 year old playing, i found the game more intense than funny with the range of mini-bosses and knuckle biting runs back to the safe room to save the game. pure nostalgia watching this. thanks guys!
This channel is underrated. under-appreciated, Lowkey being left of out peoples suggestions and lowkey unsubbed me for no reason. I could listen to these videos ass damn day💯 Mans are really going all in on the history of these games👀 that 30+ minute video Is usually 10-20 hours of digging for info, building a script, recording, and then editing
Hold on. more like several days or weeks if not a month or so.
Nothing but respect for the team that is churning these out. gold gold gold💯💯💯
The first game is still one of my fav games of all time with the second one being one of the best coop games I've played.
Next the Rise and fall of the conflict series.
conflict global storm was my childhood game, its really good.
I feel like the only person in the world who unironically enjoy DR 3 and 4... and still play them to this day.
I don't mind them
I really like 3 got it as my Xbox one launch title and my favorite of the series
@@KawaiianArgument Eh, I don't agree, I personally felt like it improved on 3 in a lot of ways and was super fun.
Great Video as usual. Awesome GVAMER Quality!
How about a "The Rise and Fall of Syphon Filter"?
The biggest disappointment Dead Rising 4 they replaced the Frank West voice actor
That no psychopath fights a terrible story and an unrealistic final boss even for dead rising
It was a different character tbh...
Frank West will always be one of my favorite protagonists.
"Dead Rising 4" was by far the best one in the series. I had a blast in all my 95 hours playing it.
Wow great video :) thank you for makimg my day off job interesting