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Alabama's attorney general says he will not prosecute IVF families or providers
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- čas přidán 22. 02. 2024
- After the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos are children, both Republicans and Democrats, including President Biden and former President Donald Trump, called for new protections for IVF treatments. NBC News' Yamiche Alcindor spoke to IVF patients in Alabama about their growing anxiety.
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#Alabama #IVF #Biden
Just deduct the embryo on your taxes. If there is a child credit take that too. When the embryo is 5, make sure you sign it up for kindergarten since it is legally a child. You should be able to get disability for the child too, since it is unable to walk or talk, and those are major life activities. They are going to have to provide school busses that can carry freezers too. We don't want to thaw the little tykes.
This is a good one! 😂
Maybe we can extend this to eggs next! I probably have a few hundred thousand left. I'm sure I can write them off. And I have a baby girl! They say we're born with a few million. Wow. Between my & I's eggs- we're DEFINITELY getting massive tax refunds this year. Right, Republicans? Gotta laugh, or else I'll cry
Excellent idea. Then if a couple gets divorced, instead of embryos being treated as property to be dealt with under equitable distribution proceedings, award custody and make someone pay child support.
I 100% support this. I 100% support mandating child support at the moment of conception, I fully support anything that affirms that these unborn human lives are entitled to basic human rights.
Was that the response you were hoping for?
@caso6781 Sure. I have no problem with that since NO HUMAN BEING has the right to use the organs of another HUMAN BEING without their permission (which is also a basic right) even if that means they will die, I have no issue at all with your stance.
Was that the response you were hoping for?
I didn't know that Alabama had a preacher as their Supreme Court's Chief Justice. Scary.
and our Federal House of Representatives Speaker MAGA Mikey is another wannabe PURITAN preacher. Liz Cheney said he believes God has called him to be Moses! how's that for a religious fanatic! and he's also an ELECTION DENIER and TRUMP SUPPORTER!, but our country has been in this position before - from the puritans, to the Salem witch trials, to the Catholic church in the 1940s- and we will overcome man's holier than thou judgments again! Don't be scared, RISE TO THE CHALLENGES of our current times HELP PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY from these wannabe fanatic dictators, because we all have a RIGHT TO CHOOSE how we live our lives. Tom Parker's(Alabama SCCJ) term ends next year in 2025 🥳
Whats stopping him from changing his mind, or an new AG from prosecuting them?
Exactly, literally "Trust me bro"
This position is to get through the election. What can they really do when their supreme court is able to write the laws?
The union to the south:
"How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man"
"Morality is doing what's right, no matter what you're told. Religion is doing what you're told, no matter what's right."
-- HL Mencken
Utterly worhtless. The next AG could reverse that in moment.
As many have noted, “trust me bro” means nothing. Especially when AGs change, and that doesn’t mean a city, county, etc prosecutor won’t charge people with crimes. Keep this topic in the news for the vileness it represents.
For doctors that spent 12 years in debt and now their entire livelyhood could be destroyed under rhr law a DA saying you can do it might not be enough
The MAGA slippery slope that begin with Dobbs, and MAGA has been losing ever since.
His verbal promise isn't worth anything. Check in with Texas law. Texas left a loop hole, "if parents life was in danger, abortion was avalible". According to Texas supreme court you are never in danger. Two women had to travel out of state to get medical help. God help poor people. GOP wont.
if you buy cake mix, eggs, and vegetable oil, did you buy a cake?
That's a stupid and nonsensical comparison.
Now, if you put cake mix, eggs, vegetable oil into a big bowl...THEN you have a cake! Or at least that's what the MAJORITY of people living in Alabama and many other republican states believe.
maybe you are stupid? putting the ingredients in a bowl does not make a cake.
maybe you are stupid?
putting the ingredients in a bowl does not make a cake.
@@jackburton2680 maybe you are stupid? even when you put the ingredients in a bowl, it's still not a cake.
maybe you are stupid?
putting the ingredients in a bowl is still not a cake.
And only the women and doctors are facing jail time for all of this. They only talk about those 2 persons being held responsible
Why should men be held responsible?
"god created government." Wow! 😳
from a state supreme court chief justice. he knows he is supposed to separate church and state
@@Jblog100 I don't think he does honestly.
Can the state AG keep district attorneys, with the support of a SCOAL ruling, from prosecuting of their own volition? There are plenty that are comfortable imposing their religious beliefs on others and plenty of voters that would reward prosecution
Exactly
That’s what happens when you mess up with separation between government and religion. Honor the founding father.
Wow, that Supreme Court judge is one sick puppy.
So...he is choosing not to enforce the laws the legislators deliberately put on the books?
Party of law and order I suppose. We only obey the laws we like when convenient.
Yes and he’s right.
LOGIC. The same embryo, identical down to the last cell:
In IVF clinic: Not a child. Can be discarded.
In my uterus: A child.
Ahhhh right…. Okay… if I didn’t invite the embryo to be in my uterus. If I didn’t give my prior written consent:
then let‘s just get the embryo out my uterus. Once it’s outside, its no longer a child and can just be discarded.
Much too crazy religious mystical beliefs running amok. We are not supposed to be ruled by any religion. Moral lessons I don't object to, but being forced to adhere to a religious fable? Never!
He will not prosecute until Trump goes on truth social and tell him too.
First they came for...and then they came for ME. Soon your family and neighbors and co-workers will be turning these families in for the "reward". Sound familiar?
I recall Hitler's people thinking along those lines in their bar fights prior to the big fire, and the Night of the Long Knives."
Alabama attorney general: "I have no intention of prosecuting people who break the law."
Trump: "American Carnage!"
You don’t go to jail, unless he changes his mind or is replaced.
NEVER TRUST A REPUBLICAN ON THEIR WORD
That’s like saying, eat these seeds: pear, apple, and kale. Yeah you had your fruit and vegetable servings now, you’re good.
How stupid is that? They aren’t fruits and vegetables yet, they’re just seeds people! Some seeds won’t grow to become plants at all. Calm the heck down Alabama!
That isn’t what they are saying at all. Seeds would be equivalent to sperm. Alabama is saying that life begins at conception. Embryos are fertilized eggs that have begun the initial stages of development and therefore count as a child of the mother for the sake of protection. Destroying the embryo could mean the mother can sue for wrongful death of her child.
@@instantbaconSeeds have been fertilized, like embryos.
@@North95 Then they have entered the initial stage of development. We don't eat fruit until it is ripe, so the analogy is still poor. When fertilization begins, development begins. If not destroyed, it will develop into a fruit/adult person.
@instantbacon , not if it's not implanted in a womb. They are frozen cells. These embryos belong to the man and women who fertilize them. So, do we take the embryos and implant them in some other woman's womb?
What happen to seperation of church and state? US cannot condem Islamic nations now
There were governments before Christianity and their god.
Shut up.
Don't tell them about marriage being a religious invention by Christians and it has existed since humans were hunters and gathereds
Yes, there were governments in antiquity.
No, there weren't.
They must be Trump Supporters...See be nice to people and they will be nice to you
The AG has no say in this - it’s the chilling effect it sends across the country
What happened to division of church and state. The country was supposedly started for religious freedom.
But that's not true. In the Plymouth colony there was no religious freedom, Dissidents were fined, exiled and in a few cases hanged. They fled England to escape the repression of and state established church and came to America to establish their own theocracy.
Trump sounds like a RINO HERE!
He was a Democrat before 2015.
How so? Republicans support families and individual rights over everything else. Trump is saying what we are believed he would say in response.
We want unborn children to be protected from conception until they are in the care of their parents. After that, the family is responsible for the child until it becomes an adult.
Wait, he's just not going to follow the Supreme Court? I disagree with his reasoning, but the institutions are supposed to be such that one person can't stop enforcement of societies laws as determined by the highest court in the jurisdiction. Are we really living in a place where the laws are just 'not enforced'? If the laws are not good, it takes less than one day to change it (we passed lots of laws on 9/12)
I wonder who she voted for
This old man needs to retire! Alabama is holding my frozen child hostage!!
That judge should be removed from the bench. Clearly, he is inserting his religious beliefs into his rulings
Next: The Alabama "Fruit of the Loins case" which will require men to wear boxers, and outlaw briefs on the theory that they reduce sperm production.
ugh.
Wouldn’t it be nice if your could tell your employer you want to be tax exempt during the year and you can take care of your own taxes at the end of the year at tax time. That would be good, why let the government use your money during the year and make laws that attack you. Actually, women shouldn’t be paying taxes at all, our government took our freedom away. we have taxation without representation. Religions are tax exempt and they get to use their money to bribe Congress to vote on their behalf. Religions are suppose to use their tax exempt money for charity.
Just adopt. Plenty of teenagers riding bareback.
Adoption isn't for everyone. They want a baby that looks like them and has their DNA.
If it would be considered murder of a child by their new law, that would mean there are no statute of limitations right? So he could always change his mind or a new DA could always charge them right in the future right?
God did not create the government. People created God, because of their childish fear of the universe.
-- " I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. " ( Albert Einstein )
-- " Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies. " ( Thomas Jefferson )
-- " Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity? " ( Arthur C. Clarke )
-- " The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma. " ( Abraham Lincoln )
I agree with all of them and many others. I am saddened that some people have such a fear of being only a human biological creature, that they force others to adhere to the fear of death. Make the most of the time you have, and make the world a safer, healthier, better place. That must be the self appointed task of the majority if we are to avoid misery and the early death of millions of people you would have liked to have met.
I disagree. People did not create God. We can infer Gods existence because of several logical reasons. One being that all things that exist had to come from something. Even time and space were created. Therefore, a being must have existed outside of time and space that has the power to create it.
The quotes you provided are really critiques on our understandings of God. God isn’t based in fear, but of love. Have you ever read the Bible?
History is full of great evils done in the name of religion or atheism. That doesn’t mean that God is at fault for the sins of people.
@@instantbacon thinking that the laws of the universe can be modified to create miracles is ridiculous. I hope you grow past this, but in the same state of mind as a Trump supporter, you will be eternally stuck.
@@instantbacon no offense intended
@user-wz9kt7im2i I'm simply stating that for every cause there is an effect. At some point, there must have been something to begin the first cause, to create the first effect (the big bang). This requires no modification of the laws of the universe. If there is a God, which I believe there is, he must be outside of the laws of the universe that he created. Otherwise, he would not be all powerful. I'd appreciate a real critique rather than "ridiculous".
My question for you: What is the alternative? What could have created everything?
No offense taken. I assume someone has hurt you in the past and it makes you closed minded.
@@instantbacon Not close minded. Just reasonable.
“God created government” that guy is nuts.
Republican Party doing a dance acting like they didn’t cause all these problems, now playing hero and good guys.
The world needs new tax payers!
Leave Alabama simple as that
Ppp
Trump is a disgrace…Vote Blue 🗳️
The IVF people led these vulnerable victims into this delema, and are soley responsible
Completely agree with IVF. I also agree every human life is entitled to basic human rights. Be more careful with human life, and suffer the consequences if you’re neglectful or negligent with that human life. Also, no disposing of human lives because they are undesirable or have minor defects. That’s called eugenics
You can believe what u want , that’s ok. The problem is some folks try & shove their beliefs on others that think differently than them.
They get violent, sometimes. I’m pro-choice, I don’t go around causing trouble for pro-life believers. To each their own. ☮️ .
@@SanjuanitaCruz like when mothers shove their beliefs on their unborn babies that they aren’t human lives entitled to basic human rights?
@@dustincaso6781they don’t have more rights than the mother. Get over it.
@@user-fj4zc2sr5z who said they did? Right to life is a basic human right. Every human life is entitled to basic human rights. Rights other than basic human rights entitled to every human life are afforded to you as you grow and develop like voting rights, right to arms, right to association, so on. No one is saying these unborn babies have a right to vote or to bare arms like the mother does silly.
@@dustincaso6781 if it is a single cell, it is not a human yet.
Alabama is woke
Repubs "karen" out so much harder than even the nuttiest, most unlikable liberal dopey person