Fixing a dent with Cold Glue! I try out Glexo's cold glue for Paintless Dent removal (PDR)
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Hi there. Just subscribed. Great vids. Can you advise a diyer as to a good starter board and where to buy. Thank you.
Thanks Jonathon, where are you based? Personally I would start with a reflector board as these are much more affordable than full light set up and then when you progress you can upgrade at a later time. If you are in the UK you can get both fog and lined reflector boards options from www.tdntools.com and www.pdrprotools.co.uk
I have been watching a heap of these pdr videos and know a bit about panel beating and car maintenance. So I'm just starting out with this glue pdr instead of buying a heap of rods etc. I also bought a pdr kit from ebay and was gunna wait till I got me a heat gun. And watching this video you pull out a hair dryer so thankyou for that I can start learning my pdr.👍🇦🇺
Ha ha Yes the trusty old hairdryer works a treat! Thanks for watching let us know how you get on :)
Thanks mate, just popped by to get the drill on the cold glue.
Had a couple of tubs from Ultra Dent a short while, and today a 350z comes in, big soft dent in the RH quarter.
Absolutely no access, and I hate drilling !
Been painted too, so avoiding hot glue, the cold should move it though.
Thanks again, great to have these resources to help others.
Thanks Les, Yes the cold glue is good stuff to reduce large soft dents quickly and cleanly! Thanks for your comment
@@LearnPDROnline cheers mate.
Polished and iso cleaned, then some heat gun warming on the panel to assist.
Worked great, 90% out on first pull.
Need some nice metal tabs, the Gexos are big $$$ here, might get some made and chromed.
I used a 3" keco round, then flat round Black Plague Gangrene tabs, worked well enough for first time cold gluing.
Thanks again.
Well explained, good tips!
Thank you, I'm glad it helped
Thanks for the info. Im a professional and i have just bought a coldglue set. And also the hail set. Im used to hotmelt. This does look interesting.
Thank you, I was on the fence myself for a while but for me Cold glue is great for reducing large soft damage fast, then I switch to hot glue or bars and rods to finish. For small shallow dents the hail kit should see you well too!
I have done a little practice, and I am not really convinced yet. I did come to a similar conclusion. I will give it another try when the dent seems right for it
Great video! I'm a DIYer in the US and am learning a lot from you! Thank you!
Thank you for your feedback, I'm glad its helping if you ever want to take it up a level with the training let me know :)
Hi Tom very nice cold glue demo 👍
Thanks Bill, I was slow to the game with cold glue but I do like it and can see the benefits of working with both hot and cold glues for PDR!
Great video, thank you for sharing!!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Good job Tom on the old faithful CLIO lol!..
Ha ha, yes indeed... she does get beaten up a lot!
Spot on Tom!
Thanks Pal
I'm based in S Wales. Thanks for the info. Keep up the good b
Vids.
BLE are based in Bristol, so not a million miles away from you but of course if ordering online, not much difference I guess. Thanks for your feedback Jonathon!
Amazing what can be achieved with PDR. Great informative vid.
Thanks for your comment bearded-flipflop what an awesome username :)
@@LearnPDROnlinethanks. it was purely found by accident when I was an apprentice 24 years ago We had to have names on our hard hats and this one just stuck. The names were generated by flicking through a dictionary. 1 was hidden chicken another was dancing goat. When your 16 you don't care. 😀👍
@@bearded-flipflop7122 Sounds like you were lucky with your name then ha ha
Top job, Mate.
Thanks Joel!
Bravo!!!👍 and merry cristmans from Romania.
Thanks Gheorghe, Merry Christmas to you and yours too!
Great Job. Seasoned body tech here and I was wandering how this glue worked to pull metal with broken paint to get it ready for metal finish. Looks really strong and fast. Thanks for the video 👍👌
Thanks Salvatore, yes its great for reducing large dent damage fast, its important to set it up correctly the first time (instructions with kit) and then clean the area, warm the panel and warm the glue to get the best pull!
Thankyou Neo you must of been still at school when that film was made great video
Ha ha yes not far off I was about 18 I think so in my apprenticeship/college... great film I remember leaving the cinema and looking around thinking... Maybe, just maybe ha ha
@@LearnPDROnline your hitting 40 now mate time flies
@@supermarketsweeps Ha ha I'm still in my thirties currently and I'm hanging on to that, lol
Looks good stuff that glue
Thanks Drew, Yeah i quite like it now, easy and quick to use on large soft damage!
Thanks Tom! This was very helpful. In the use of the line board finding crowns. I have been working with using a slapper to bring those crowns down. Sometimes it works well, sometimes not. I made a rubber padded paddle I use for a slapper with a soft faced hammer. Have you experience with that?
Thanks Allen, I've had some success with slapper tools, I'm probably quicker and more accurate working with a knock down like the Cro Carb or with a blending hammer and a soft domed tip particularly with smaller crowns but this would be time consuming with the larger ones. I'm sure if I practiced more with the slappers I'd get quicker :)
With your rubber padded paddle are you resting this against the panel and hitting with a hammer or using the paddle as a hammer itself?
You may also like this video specifically on identifying crowns - czcams.com/video/KUUOv5FCdzo/video.html
@@LearnPDROnline I lay the paddle on the metal and hit it with a rubber tipped hammer trying to direct the metal back to whence it came. My paddles are padded with rubber material.
Excellent explanation. Impressive work. Can you tell me what was the tool with the ball on the end?
Thank you, do you mean the tool I was pushing the dent with from the inside? if so its a double bend bar with a screw in tip, the tip is a Dentcraft R4 and the red pvc cover is known as a 'cherry cap' for the R4 tip - kecotabs.co.uk/products/dentcraft-1-4-hard-pvc-interchangable-round-tip-red-r4-r?_pos=6&_sid=1ed576b65&_ss=r and a bar similar to this one - kecotabs.co.uk/products/24-x-7-16-softtip-dbl-bend-90-changable-tip
Thank you it was very useful question before you used the cold glue you have to wait 10 to 15 minutes of what I didn’t understand what we’re supposed to wait for?
Thanks Celeste, The very first time you use Glexo cold glue you have to set it up to the tab, this is pretty simple and the instructions are with the kit, taking the time to work the glue at the right temperature so it adheres to the tab, once set up is done, its ready to go and every time you use it there after its ready, just needs a little warming up to help adhesion
Thank you - just subscribed. What is your opinion on cold glue (as you show here) vice hot glue for something like this? I have a hot melt glue that I have used for many projects (but never for dent removal). Thank you.
Thanks for your question and for subscribing, I used to think it was either or but having both hot and cold glue for your PDR repairs is great as they both serve a different purpose, before I had cold glue I would do what's known as a 'wet' pull with the hot glue, this is when you pull early before the glue has hardened and it has a similar 'softer' effect like the cold glue but now for large soft dents my go to is the cold glue, when you get used to it it is very quick to work with, by the time my hot glue gun is hot Ive already removed half the dent with the cold set up and the clean up time is also reduced. However cold glue has its limits, for smaller, sharper or deeper dents its hot glue all the way for a stronger more precise pull. Hope that helps :)
Hi Tom, What are you using to heat the panel, is it a standard heat gun or hairdryer?
Hi Barry, yes in this video I am using a standard hair dryer but you can of course use either... If using a heat gun just keep an eye on the temperature and how close it is so as not to burn the paint 👍🏻
Seen so many sliding hammers for sale. Any links for a decent one to purchase and the cold glue? Thank you. Great video!
Hi Mike, yes there are so many options out there, weight is one of the main things to consider, its good to have a light weight one as well as a heavier one but some slide hammers come with changeable weight handles such as this one from BLE - bletools.com/collections/pullers/products/aluminium-dent-puller-with-spring-dampening Otherwise you can always trust in TDN Tools aka Keco UK
Great job as always, Tom. I've used cold glue to reduce the dent area and even remove the dent on repainted panels. Cold glue pulls aren't as strong as hot glue pulls and damages on the paint are avoided. Heat is needed, of course. I've had no problems in those repairs with Cola Fria. Have you tried that repair with Glexo?
Thanks Francisco! I've used cold glue a few times now on a few different repairs and yes it is ideal for a softer pull to reduce the risks of damaging the paint and also reduce overpulling the panel but not yet tried on repainted panels. I've only tried Glexo myself but I know there are a few others out there
Thanks Tom!
Hi Tom, would you mind to tell me where to buy the same PDR that you are using. I will really appreciate it. Thank you for sharing your ideas. Such a great man.
Hi Von Von thanks for your comment, depends where you are based as to where to buy but the manufacturer of the cold glue is ‘Glexo’ I got mine from TDN - tdntools.com/products/glexo-cold-adhesive-system-full-set?_pos=7&_sid=0e1bccca4&_ss=r and the slide hammer I use is from BLE tools again in the uk - bletools.com/collections/glue/products/aluminium-dent-puller-with-spring-dampening 👍🏻
Tom I woke up this morning dreaming but cold glue no lie lol. I'm new to bigger dents and this looks like it will make majority of big dents into a few small dents and make the average dent guy look like brick Kelly ;) would you recommend the German etari kit from amazon at 150? Looks good and a few dent techs Ben mentioning it.
Ha ha I too dream of dents sometimes, lol Ive not used the Etari stuff myself but yes it seems to work ok too based on reviews Ive seen online. it took me a while to try cold glue but now it is my go to for starting large soft damage, I can often remove the majority of the dent whilst my hot glue gun is warming up! Its good stuff.
Great video sir. Sir I’m located in the United States do you have any recommendations for coldglue or slide hammers here? Thank you!! 👍
Thanks Billy, I haven't purchased tools from US to personally recommend but Glexo is a good Cold glue I use and anything from Black Plague PDR or from Keco will be good for glue pulling widely available too
The glue is quite expensive. Also, do I need the tool you are showing or can I use something simpler.
Yes there are alternatives with both the glue and the glue puller just be sure to check the reviews and make sure its not a cheap knock off that may risk damaging the paintwork as that will be more expensive
Where can I get the slider hammer and the glue from?
My slide hammer is from BLE Tools and the glue is Glexo. My slide hammers old so I did have to modify it slightly to fit the glexo metal tabs though...
Was wondering what you would recommend to start in PDR? Been in the body industry for 10 years but would like to branch out to PDR and have no idea where to start for tools.
I did a video a little while ago on tools to get started, you don't need all of the ones I list but should point you in the right direction as to where to start www.learnpdronline.com/pdr-tips/tools-you-need-to-start-learning-pdr/
Then along with your tools you'll need some training, check out what we have available here - www.learnpdronline.com
Hey. I'm new to this area and would like to learn more about the use of cold glue. It is a little difficult to get advice here in Finland.
I developed my own cold glue and would like to get feedback on it. Maybe I could shoot a short video. Based on that, you may be able to evaluate the product.
You cannot buy cold glue from Finland. It would be handy if I had managed to make my own. At least it feels pretty good in use.
Welcome to the world of PDR Ju ha, I have heard of a few people making their own versions of cold glue, as long as the paintwork is protected and you can get good adhesion for the pulling process it works. I believe Glexo is a Russian product so just across the border from Finland - glexotools.com/ and also available from Dent tool company - ://www.denttoolcompany.nl/en/
@@LearnPDROnline Thank you for your answer. The glue seems to work well. I have already used it a few times. Manufacturing did not require much of engineering skills.Happy holidays!
Allow the cold glue to Set In 10 plus mins at the tip of the slide hammer first?????
The very first time you use cold glue you may need to allow around 10 minutes for the cold glue to adhere to the metal tab, after this first time, you will only need to warm the glue slightly either by hand pushing and folding the glue or with a heat gun, just enough to make it really nice and sticky!
@@LearnPDROnline thanks boss! Got it!!
That's an easy one for obvious reasons. Can u illustrate the same size dent on a flat area?
Hey Tom, usually people find its harder fixing dent damage on curved panels like this, flat areas are usually more straightforward, do you mean the same dent again on something like a flat roof or middle of a door?
@@LearnPDROnline to me flat shows more to the trained eye. I'm mostly asking in reference to adhesive ability. Flat doesn't pop back like that.
@@tomchapman4826 In terms of adhesion it makes no difference on the shape of the panel in my experience, so if the panel is clean and prepped correctly the cold glue will stick. Large soft dents like in this video will come out with some good pulls in the right place, its great for reducing larger dents quickly. I find its the smaller sharper dents or creases that don't work so well with cold glue, that's when I'll switch to hot glue or work with tools from behind. I mostly use cold glue for small soft dents on roof rails where I can usually fully remove with the cold glue alone or for reducing large damage quickly.
whats the name of the tool youre using?
In this video I am using 'cold glue' and this brand is from 'Glexo' I am then using my 'slide hammer' to pull the tabs and this blue one is from 'BLE Tools', Thanks
How do you decide where to start first on a dent like that
The short answer, experience... but it begins with a lot of trial and error, having an understanding of 'metal flow' will help you determine where the tension is, which parts are shallow and which areas are most likely to respond with a particular repair method, You can usually feel by hand which areas of a large dent are 'soft' ie have some movement and which areas are 'hard' build up of tension, so its about releasing tension to allow the metal to move easily!
Iked subscribed
Thank you!
Which glue, where we get it?
I use cold glue from Glexo - glexotools.com/ however there are a few PDR tool suppliers that stock it and also similar cold glue products
Question. How long does cold glue last?
Good question and I don't actually have the answer. I guess it partly depends on how well you look after it and how often you use it. I only bought once a year or two ago and its still going strong
Great info Thank You
Why kind of glue is this I’m in the USA, I also bought a kit from Amazon the glue don’t hold at all! It comes of with the first pull
This cold glue is from Glexo - glexotools.com/ There are of course other brands available but I would recommend buying from a PDR tool supplier to make sure its genuine
Sir where I can buy the cold glue?
Depends where you are in the world but the product I used here is Glexo so you head over to their site directly at glexotools.com/
or most major PDR tool companies such as 'TDN Tools' and 'PDR Pro Tools' in the UK 'Dent Tool Company' and 'Keco Tabs' in the EU and then 'Dentcraft Tools' in the US. There are of course other brands of cold glue available to... Thanks
Thank You sir I really appreciate for your support and I like your videos i am from India n leaving in Qatar basically I am a auto technician past 20 years but I like to lern PDR can you help me sir you have any training programs?
@@5185manu We do Online PDR Training starting from the very basics through to more advanced repairs and techniques, for more information on this you can check out our website - www.learnpdronline.com Thanks
who is the supplier of the tap down?
Hi Raymond, the brand is 'Cro Carb' in terms of best supplier it depends where you are based but you can search 'Cro Carb knockdown' and you'll find one! Some suppliers also stock screw in tips to use the leather pad on the end of your bar! Towards the end of the repair I am also using 'Root Beer' knockdown, hope that helps
Hello I m Muhammad Iran from Pakistan where from I get cold gulu
Hi Muhammad, there are a few different brands available online, this is the brand I use - www.kecotabs.eu/collections/lifting-tools/products/glexo-cold-glue-full-kit
I let the commercials finish every time
That takes some patience too but I appreciate it 👍
Over priced Butyl Sealant Putty Tape?
Are you asking if it is butyl sealant tape? Or saying glexo is overpriced? Not sure I understand your question