Installing Our Waste Oil Heater | Living Off-Grid
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00:25 Riley Goes In The Attic
01:17 Back On The Roof!
02:20 Not The Drone...
04:51 Putting The Heater In Place
07:43 Installing The Pipe
10:48 Riley Makes A HUGE Mess
11:45 Firing Her Up!
13:50 Thank you! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Ok, let’s talk about your ladder technique. For starters, your climbing angle should be 70 degrees. You can determine this by placing the balls of your feet just inside the beam of the ladder. With your arms fully extended, if your ladder is at the correct angle, your hands should fall in between the beams. Also extend the ladder 5 -7 rungs above the eaves. This allows you to grab the ladder without bending down. Also, step on the ladder , on the rung above the roof line, then descend. Retired firefighter, 33 years. I’ve climbed a few ladders in my career. Good luck.
YOU DID GOOD WITH THE DIRECTION OF YOUR CHIMNEY PIPES, THE CRIMPED END ALWAYS GOES DOWN, NEVER UP! I WAS A CHIMNEY SWEEP FOR 38 YEARS, I DID 1 CUSTOMER WHO OWNED ANA FRAME HOME,, WHEN I WENT IN HE HAD ABOUT 35 FT. OF PIPES GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE PEAK OF THE A-FRAME, HE ASKED ME WHY THE OUTSIDE OF THE PIPES WERE ALL COVERED WITH CREOSOTE, I HA D ONE SIMPLE ANSWER, THAT HE HAD ALL HIS PIPES UPSIDE DOWN, WITH THE CRIMPED END FACING UPWARDS, INSTEAD OF DOWN WARD!
Riley is correct 💯: a water container won't burn. This is why keeping a door wet blocks a fire from entering a room.
If you add ceiling fans it might help recirculate the hot air up high and reduce your T-stat controlled fuel oil burn rate
Totally agree! A large fan will be a great addition to the shop.
@@AmbitionStrikes Big ass fan, expensive but awesome, look them up.
@@jstar1000 a Big Ass fan will be great in summer, too!
But, remember, they have limited electrical availability, so a BA fan may not be practical.
Doesn't do any good to heat the attic.
Hint from an old construction worker with a poor back, having a balloon tired hand truck around is used an amazing amount.
waste oil is such an amazing heat, been using oil heat for a foundry to melt bronze for years. I highly recommend filtering the oil that goes in the tank with something simple like a paint filter or something. It will last much longer if you can get the chunky crap or dirt that ends up in the oil catch pans between changes. the most energy use is at startup when the glow plugs are cranking hot leaving it on low uses way less power than if it has to turn on and off through the day when controlled by a thermostat.
They'd be better to make a filtration cart/system. Run it through some filters to get the metal shavings out.
@@wisconsinbush2940Magnet also maybe.
Jazz sax as the background music. Epic.
I don't know anything about how to filter used oil without making more waste product, but it should be like filtering debris from water, like a gravity filter. I remember reading that the PT boat crews in the Pacific during WW2 would filter their fuel through a chamois to keep from clogging their fuel lines with debris. Maybe a fine wire mesh basket with a 200 or 400 mesh count?
As for weather, right there with ya. We were 80f on Monday, 77f on Tuesday, and woke up Wednesday at 30f with a 12f wind chill.
Courtney: Riley is as pure as the driven snow… Plus? Possesses a big heart. Never give him up
Since you are concerned (rightly) about climbing the ladder up and down for roof access, had you given any thought to putting one of those pull-down attic ladders in the ceiling somewhere? I'm sure you could figure out a way to seal and waterproof the external cover, and it would give you easy, quick access to the roof. Mount your shackle next to the roof opening, and you have a convenient place to connect your safety harness to.
Nice heater, I've been around several older waste oil heaters and the most common issue has been filtration and contamination. You will likely need between 500-1000 gallons per winter. Storage of that much waste oil can be difficult as well as handling cold waste oil in the winter from outside storage. Also any oil should be suspected of having crud and non combustibles in it. Good luck, enjoy the heat.
Maybe find a filtering system for the filler, at least it wouldn't crud up your tank. And an outside tank may not be good as Louis said, cold oil acts different
I agree with the combustibles, I work on a fleet of vehicle with a group that ranged from
10 to 15 mechanics and I have seen them put anything in the waste oil drums (edit Bad spelling)
I agree 100%. I always pour my waste oil thru a screen when pouring it into one of my storage totes. And keeping as much anti freeze and brake fluid out of the oil as possible is important. Regardless I advise a water separator somewhere in the feed line to the burner or on the outflow of the primary storage tank.
Better get friendly with some oil change shops ! You will likely have to BUY that used oil.
@@cbmirada .
All they need to do is set up a Tank that does not have the drain in the bottom of the tank so that any debris in the tank settles in the bottom.
Then install a mess screen In the intake Flange
Before you start down the ladder, take one end of yellow rope. Tie to ladder as close to edge of roof as possible. Throw other end of yellow rope over roof peak and down the other side of building. Cinch to solid anchor on other side of building. Be sure it is nice and tight. This will steady the ladder and reduce stress significantly.
I guess the reason or one of the reasons I love this channel is my life is a lot like Riley's, Great Ideas and disasters now and then, lots of energy and positive attitude, Messy that's me too. Of course the energy element has diminished as I hit 80 YO>>>>>>>>>>
Appreciate the schooling on your waste oil heater. So much better for the environment to burn the waste oil. I do suggest an appropriate fire extinguisher easily accessible should it be needed. Instead of pouring the waste oil into the tank, perhaps a small pump to eliminate and spillage. Great episode!
Heat is always nice! Today in the Antelope Valley we have rain snow and hail!
That’s quite the combo! We had a low of 4*F last night so we got the heater in just in time!
What a neat furnace, it makes a nice addition to the garage/apartment. Thank you for sharing, you two are a fun couple to watch.
I used a waste oil heater for 17 years to heat my auto shop. Once yearly cleaning of the delivery system and clean the ash out of the burner pot. It was great and I had to collect oil from other shops since it ran a lot during our open hours. Had EPA test it and they were happy with how little emissions it was putting in the air.
You two kids will make wonderful parents.
PS: I worked in Radio and TV for 25 years, your production is great...
HOLY SMOKES! This would be a game changer for us. The cost of our propane shop heaters is killing us this Winter.
Never forget : combustion, whatever it is, needs a supply of air. Appliances placed indoors must have an outside air supply. This goes for everything, including your wood stove. Poor combustion causes clogging of the flue and ends in a chimney fire. Do not underestimate this risk ! Best regards from France.
I would recommend you rig a "tie off" system for your ladder. I've used c-clamps and rope or a rope up over the roof; I've also tie the ladder to the gutter hangers.. Anything that will keep the ladder from sliding away as you make the move from roof to ladder. I've lost ladders three times because I didn't tie them.
Have your "assistant" stand under the ladder, the way firemen do it. Then If you fall you won't fall on top of your assistant.
Once again another great video!! Just a thought for your roof going escapades is to fabricate two brackets and permanently mount them on the eve or facia just wide enough to capture the ladder to tie off to. This would help keep you safe as we would all hate to see a flying Riley!!
Yes!
Same with cooking oil. I will reuse it 2 or 3 times, by filter it threw nylon stockings
Good day everyone. I hope you have a secondary Escape Route in case of a fire as that is just below your steps for exiting your building.
I know it just temporary, but for final install, put your thermostat a fair distance from the furnace to get the "true" temperature of the space your heating.
Heating up a shop is not rocket science temperature is based on what make you feel good and what you can afford and how much oil you have, thermostat is just a reference for a location in the shop
@@user-cb2427 Yes, well, if it is too close, you won't get the furnace to run properly and it will short cycle, reducing the life of all components involved and could cause injection issues with the fuel.
Coming down is always stressful. Couple bits of advice, don't have anything on you coming down you don't need. You don't need the backpack to come down, use the green rope to lower it. For the actual tie off rope, throw it down as well. If you get too stressed to come down and need to cool off before attempting you always have that green rope to bring your tie off back up to you.
I have had times I've throw power tools 30ft down just so I could navigate out of the brush and back down a utility pole. No Makita's were harmed doing that at least 50 times :)
Edit: Couple other things. Tie a stainless steel carabiner to both ends of that green rope. In the event you need something, that carabiner can turn minutes into seconds. Another consideration, Klein has TONS of different pouches both for your belt and for general hanging from trucks poles etc. Grab you a 1 gallon pouch (without the snaps so they don't open and it fall) that you can clip on the rope when you need to raise something.
Another version of your Idaho weather, down here in Florida is, if you don't like the rain just walk across the street and you'll have sunshine
Hubby would have loved watching this one. He loved watching you hecpassed away January 13th 2022. You two should be so proud
We’re so sorry for your loss. ❤️
Totally diggin the jazzy music during the pipe install section.
Riley,
I've done a few roofs and used those anchors before. I figured out a better solution was to use a "throw bag" over the roof to the other side, haul up and over my safety line and find a tie off point. A tree, vehicle or some other secure anchor point.
The only down side is you need a LONG safety line to do it, but that way you're not going up a ladder without protection.
I suggest you look for more sources for your waste oil. You won't generate enough on your own. Nice job with the install, as always.
Getting the feet back securely in the ground is SUCH a good feeling! Waste oil heater is a great idea! I worked for a company that did this, and they fed the furnace from a 275 gallon oil tank. Don't know if there are any issues with settling of sediment in the tank.
Hi great job , here in Dublin Ireland a big main vw dealer installed a waste oil heater at a cost of 10k they only were able to run it for a couple of weeks before the local county council closed it down due to emission levels being very high and it's never been used since
The reason you have blue smoke from your wood stove is that you are burning wet wood. When you burn really seasoned wood with a secondary burn stove you only white steam and later only invisible vapor heat that flutters which is just heat and no gases. My chimney literally has no creosote at all. Try putting the wood inside an air conditioned environment in the summer months which really dries the wood to five percent or less moisture( My wood tested range is 2 to 4 percent moisture content. ). The wood really burns super hot. Have been doing that for five years now. This is the trick that really works. Peace
Few years a few years back I had a friend that bought a centrifugal device that helps remove metal from his oil and was using it in his pixel pickup truck which ended up costing him thousands of dollars in repairs. But undaunted he decided to get a furnace that burnt used oil to heat his home and come up with this genius idea of producing electricity using a steam powered motor. He only had one problem had to go around bothering everybody he knew for their waist oil. He finally sold all of it to a fella in Missouri I keep telling him if he wanted crude oil I have a piece of property where it leaks up in the creek he was welcome to all of it he wanted. I don't own the mineral rights on that property but if it comes to the surface it's mine. I estimated it's about four barrels a year just like a nasty spring when the water table gets high enough it puts enough pressure to push a little oil up. It's a lot of places like that around these parts in Texas. Foul smelling stuff. Oh yeah did you like my country twang.lol
I would refer to captain Ron's comment about ladder safety and add that whenever you are footing a ladder for the person climbing to wear eye protection and a helmet. Our natural tendency is to look up there by exposing our eyes to something falling from the bottom of the shoes.
Waste oil heaters are my favorite when properly installed they are good for the users and the environment
Riley...your filmed transition off the roof and onto the ladder is EXACTLY why I hated painting the dormer on the 2&1/2 stories tall farm house I was raised in as a kid...as getting on&off that roof did NOT include any type of safety harness AT ALL. Two younger brothers were suppose to keep their weight on the bottom rung of the ladder ...but instead thought it was hilarious to wiggle the ladder WHILE I tried to get off the roof and back on the ladder. My fear of heights is what I have lived with ever since having that harrowing roof to ladder experience. Your video made me feel the same way!
When you guys started the shop build I told my wife they need a waste oil heater. Never seen this brand but have seen many oil heaters. Everybody always loves them. Huge shop at 80 degrees in the dead of winter. For cheap.. Keep up the great videos!
Super cool!!! Guys need a shop ceiling fan that has a reverse. It will push down all the heat that rises to ceiling.
Yes!!
Your videos are just to short!! That heater looks to be ideal for that large open expanse of the shop. The external oil tank will be a terrific addition later on.
Bailey and Boone were having fun waiting for dinner ... What a hoot they are to watch.
I love your calibrated eye ball comment when you were installing the chimney flue!
Wish y’all posted more often! I’m stuck working a job I hate to pay for something I need and until I get it taken care of I’m left living vicariously through you two!! Pls more vidsss
That heater is so HOT! Thanks for sharing
Warm , fuzzy and messy smiles 😁
I would have left those anchor points on the roof just in case you need to go up there in the future to fix or replace a part of your chimney or roof panel. Anyway I love your channel and got hooked! I ABSOLUTELY want to do what you two are doing!
I've done a few roofs and used those anchors before. I figured out a better solution was to use a "throw bag" over the roof to the other side, haul up and over my safety line and find a tie off point. A tree, vehicle or some other secure anchor point.
The only down side is you need a LONG safety line to do it, but that way you're not going up a ladder without protection.
at the end of each season you can run some diesel through it to help clean it out. they are a dirty fuel and have to be cleaned.. the ash produced is caustic and will corrode your chamber (probably will void any warranty) if you don't clean it as they recommend. you might want to also get an extra preheater ( the guts of the burner) if they sell them separately, because its easier than trying to rebuild ( o-ring part kit) when its cold and you need heat.. good vid... enjoy!!
What a great idea for a big problem. You two work so well together. Thanks
To stabilize a ladder safely you want to be under the ladder holding the sides of it with you hands and your feet tightly against the sides standing on a step. That way if the party on it falls you won't be under them. Also doing it puts all your body weight on it keeping it from slipping as they transition from the roof to the ladder. This was the way I was taught in the fire department. I used a waste oil heater in my auto shop and it was great. No problem with disposing with the waste oils. The EPA came and tested it and gave it a thumbs up.
Thankyou for helping me to shop for a shop heater.
Collection of the waste oil, I will look to neighbors, and possibly industry to obtain the oil to operate the energy logic heater.
It also appears to be able to work with solar as a power source.
Wow, just another piece for the puzzle I have ahead of me.
Thanks again, God bless you.
Let the projects commence!
So stoked for you guys!! Enjoy! You’ve earned it! Thanks for the videos and taking us along!
Perfectly logical way to provide heat to your home hopefully you’ll be able to secure a local source of used oil for free.. free heat is the best heat
a big tip is do a bar on the top off the roof that why you can climb up the sid our anther why hoock in then you hav 4 place the you move the hoock =)
What an amazing furnace ! Right on you guys !
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Vi i EU skulle kunna exportera vår spill olja till USA 🙂
Awesome! Get yourselves a couple of decent sized properly rated fire extinguishers, top and bottom of the stairs!
When the furnaces operating properly, the combustion of the waste oil becomes very efficient and as you've seen produces a whole lot less pollution.
Have you decided where you're going to put the tank to hold the waste oil? I haven't the clue on what you would need up in Idaho but I'm guessing a 500 gallon tank should do. Mounted on legs to keep it off the ground or, if you want store it inside.
You're better off filtering it to remove any thick contaminants or sludge. It's going to be totally awesome once you hook it up to your phone when you're away and keeping it on low might be worth it in the long run
Well, what I know about waste Oil Burners & storage of waste oil is to use Marvel Mystery Oil as a stabilizer, it will keep your waste oil from turning into jelly during really cold winters. I had a friend that use to screen his waste oil to get the chunks out of it. Just some information for you guy's, good luck... One other thing; look into maintenance & the burner nozzles. Make sure you have spares on hand. They do wear out.
I love the new furnace and totally want one now.. thanks for another wonderful video guys.
Very cool. Nice upgrade for the shop.
Awesome, great that you're using what normally would be waste oil. Great job 👏
Riley - "I do not like heights."
Couldn't hardly tell by that heavy breathing while you were getting off the roof!
Seriously loving you guys, wish I could do what you guys are doing, can’t wait for the next installment
What a great heating system!
Cool video. Thank you for using good safety techniques.
Curtney is right with the plastic watertank since it might be not full all the time. But you can put a metal plate between as a heat defection and heat dissapation shield and rockwool behind as a thermal insulation. Same goes for your wood on the stairs and al other arround the heater.
You also might take into account a overfill or spilled oil or defect oil intake system making a larger fire in that spot directly below open wood.also natural stone or brickstonewalls.. you know they did arround fireplaces in the old days where buildings where made not out of cheap sticks^^
Great vlog you guys! Sounds like this waste oil furnace will take care of many of your heating needs! It’s great to see that this unit is pretty much soot free! Good for you 👍👍👍
Since you now have a dedicated point on the roof for future safety strap connection, I would put eye bolts into the fascia on either side of the ladder access point then you can put a strap across to hold the top of the ladder securely.
Very cool heater . . . so to speak. ;-)
I really appreciate all of your "off-grid" planning and implementation, which shows how much we take for granted in an "on-grid" life. Thanks also for the "How we power our life" email update this week. I don't have your skills (yet), but share your desire for a more sustainable, intentional way of living. You show what might be possible, while also having a good time learning and doing it.
Awesome. good info. Thanks for sharing your journey
That thermostat is very close to the heater. The rest of the shop will be considerably cooler.
Probably should figure out how to filter the waste oil.
Also, my buddy in Alaska found out quickly that these "waste oil heaters" quickly turn into diesel heaters since only a trucking company would have enough waste oil.
Good luck!
From a retired HVAC professional, your single wall flue looks great! You two always do a very good job.
Thank you! ☺️
Is the vent pipe lapped right? I thought it had to be lapped so the fitting went in the same direction as the flu gases traveled
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Okay guys I have just finished binge watching almost all of your back catalogue and first things first I love your story and your gumption, and your videos have a very professional look always which is just as well since you are professional CZcamsrs ! FYI you can get a set of pallet toes for the kubota ( well I can in Europe) and they would be a handy addition for you in any further construction. Another thing I would suggest is ignore the bloody minded comments having read many of them most people are nice and mean well but some prats just can't help but be offensive. Best of luck with the future and I for one really enjoy your work. I am a builder and have been for over 40 years so I know that there is no great mystery to building most of it is common sense and a bit of understanding about materials and the environment you are working in.
Hi there! Thank you so much for watching the videos and supporting our channel! I had to google pallet toes, we call them forklift forks here. I totally agree, they would be a really good addition to the excavator!
I am not sure about a paper cup, but you can 100% boil water in a plastic bottle over an open flame. I have done this when my coffee pot broke and microwaves don't belong on camping trips. works great! just hang the bottle high enough that the flames are barley touching but not all the time. it will deform a little but it will not catch fire or fully melt. the power of water cooling!
That is a great furnace and I like Hao clean it burns great you two never miss a video thank you for sharing and your time was really great 👍.
You guys are killing it!
Ok, that's a sweet heater!! Would have never thought of a used oil heater for the shop. Super cool!!!!
Any type of heat in the winter is good heat. Nice job
Glad your getting you stove in.that will be nice.
Major step forward guys! Well Done!
With the finishing of each project I feel your sense of accomplishments. Keep at it someday you will just sir back and look at it
Great add to the shop. That'll make life much nicer in the shop
You're going to love my takeaway. Install roof access from inside the top floor, or attach a permanent ladder with a cage on the side of the building. Second benefit of roof access from the second floor, if you ever get that much snow you can always climb out, LOL.
Hey I’m in Spokane and I have a an old lubester full of used motor oil. It’s yours for the taking if u need it. I would say 30 ish gallons of Oil only not the lubester…. I enjoy following your projects!
Most guys can relate to Riley so much is hilarious lol.
You all are great.. enjoy so much. Keep up the good work..
outstanding work guys that a fine piece of equipment
Riley, you are so brave doing that roof stuff!
That is awesome! No more cold shop. Just think what you can get accomplished during the winter.
That heater is a grate addition to the shop and might help against freezing water and pex lines
just a thing, if you ever go on the roof again, keep the clip for attaching yourself on there, and just tie down the rope beside the building, so that if you go up again, its safer.
Totally awesome you guys. Riley, I share your worries about getting back on the ladder. Been there and done that. Those heaters could even have a market here in the tropics. well, in a corner of our tropical island (Dominican Republic), up in our high mountains where it gets down to way below 32 F or 0 Centigrade. It is cold. Thanks for the tremendous video.
ACHK!!!! My Eyes. That hoodie is BRIGHT!!!
Luv, luv, luv the Energy Logic
This is very interesting. thank you for testing these out for others to learn from it. Love & Light
There are so many people in the mid west that use these oil burners to heat their shops and barns. Love free heat. When I lived in Northern Idaho (Mullan), we cut dead Tamarack and red fir for our air tight stove. Firewood heats many times. When you split it, when you load it, when you stack it, etc.
Impressive piece of kit
This is very exciting to know you can use the oil from car, truck, lawnmowers, etc. Thanks for the update!
I know a few people running waste oil furnaces and they really work well. Lots of people bring them their used oil as a “convenience”. Excellent description for your stove pipe relating it to a Dr Seuss book, I can definitely picture it now. Enjoy the heat!
Love the waste oil idea, so much out there free. Mavic Air2, love mine just have fewer trees where I am!