The best hot water system for your van!
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2018
- A #vanlife episode about HOT WATER! You need a good hot water system for showering, your dishes and washing clothes! In this video I'll explain why I chose a heater instead of a boiler and show you how I installed my hot water system.
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Personal website: www.jonathandoornenbal.com - Krátké a kreslené filmy
For those wondering his heater is a Waga Parts Type 20 Eme Propane/Butane Heater.
This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. czcams.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
Great humor.. liked the Dave2D sequel, the nod to Dave. Your assured, uncertain stumblings made it real and entertaining. your #1 fan.
This is just what I was looking for. Cheers mate
Just found your channel ! I love you are being honest about being scared ! I love real tv !
Nice van. Nice presenting. In the UK we call those Instantaneous Water Heaters . We don't really say Geyser. I have used these and I've 'popped' the heat exchanger by leaving just a tiny amount of water in over winter. You can often get them cheaply re-soldered by a vehicle radiator repairer but it depends on the accessibility of the split in the pipes. They heaters are brilliant. The person who said it's not really living van life if you have hot water should try living both ways. Or just try living at home for a month just using cold water. To me the closer you can get your van's small space to feeling like home and like you're not depriving yourself the better. A word of caution tho. ....I used to fit my own as I've done plumbing work for many years. Now it's illegal to work on gas in the UK unless you are GasSafe qualified ( used to be called Corgi .) That's for good reason. The gas connections done even slightly wrong are an explosion hazard and can suffocate you. Fire is really not your biggest concern here. 2ndly these heaters have a lot of flame inside then so produce a large amount of Carbon Monoxide in a VERY short time. Proper big bore venting, fitted to stringent standards is absolutely necessary. They are a brilliant piece of kit and we'll worth the cost. Just get it refitted by a qualified gas engineer and remove it to indoors during the cold winter months, if not using the van (and keeping a reasonable frost free interior temp.) Alternatively use an air line to blow it clear of any water hen resting it for winter and wrap it with insulation like you would a household water tank. Just subbed. Happy travels everyone. John
Haha! Dave2D is how I found your channel! I like your style!
Nice going man. Love the van.
Brilliant entertaining video. Keep'em coming
LMAO...Jonathan YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!! Too funny bro. Great helpful videos, thanx.
If the water heater breaks out in flames you won't be able to reach the fire extinguisher. I recommend one fire extinguisher in the front of the van and one fire extinguisher in the rear. I may take some of those color ideas in your van nice job.
great video! to the point! I don't know if anyone else pointed it out... Your fire extinguisher shouldn't be next to your heater which combusts! happy trails mate
You should make a list of all things used and link to the heater.
Leuke stijl Jonathan! En je engels is ook on point
Really looking forward to the tutorials! I need some guidance for when I build my van in a couple years when I get done with my job. And I don’t have the first clue of what to do besides buy the van lol.
this guy has no clue ether. Please don't use this guys videos as reference this guys van is potentially dangerous
Thank you so much for the video, because I was so scared of when I would be handling gas so I can understand your concerns. Bye for now
A Geyser is what the Victorians used and called them, I think we have moved on a bit since then lol! We now call them a "Hot Water Heater" because they heat water until it is hot. Actually you are kind of correct :P, technically you could call it a geyser but I have never heard one of my countrymen call it a "Geyser" it is just too old fashioned. In the UK they are also called "Instant hot water heaters" tankless water heaters-also called instantaneous, continuous flow, inline, flash, on-demand, or instant-on water heaters. In "Geysers" the temperature varies with the consumption rate, becoming cooler as flow increases. Appliances that provide a continual supply of hot water are also called "water heaters, hot water heaters, hot water tanks, boilers, heat exchangers, on demand hot water heaters or calorifiers" . A heater is something which warms the air in a space ie a Propex or Espar D2 etc.
You turn your warm knob until your heart's content, Mr Doorbell 🤣
waakflam ;) dutchy's rule. Love it man !!
Hi Jonathan, hope your keeping safe/ Can I ask how this heater system connects to a shower? We have to have an outside shower head hanging off the back door.
I'm thinking the design to go with is an electric-only hot water heater. Requires a more substantial electrical system, but think how one can take advantage; shore power connections if/when available, alternator charging while traveling, and finally battery power when parked. I'd also go as far as installing a larger 6gal or 10 gallon heater. That's likely enough hot water to last a night and a morning once already heated. So no battery until the tank's hot water temperature drops enough to warrant more heat.
Dave sent me over.. subbed. 👍
bahaha , cheers buddy
We call it a tankless water heater. Good job :)
you are AWESOME- thanks
Thank you! You are awesome!
You're very real. 👏👏👍
Yes economic,I have this type of heater...not this in particilar but instant boiling water heater,but we must pat attention of the exaust,that is dangerous for wood and flamable Times near the exaust...I did some update for this problem...it is only for the users here this information,you sud a Great work in this video,useful informations for cheapest heaters !
Hey love it. Goed gedaan. Why not just have an electric hot water tap that heats the water?
nice im going to get one of those
Love the idea of viewing zero to in-depth finish product. Love clip of “Dave” Love warm water, subbed. ;)
Great video!!! But I need more info lol.What was that silver tube for? Thanks for sharing 👍😌
It's for the exhaust gases. But, he used the wrong type, it should be of flexible, stainless steel.
Excel has a "tankless water heater" that requires NO venting. If O2 levels are to low, it will not turn on. Also Excel has a low pressure requirment that is great for a van application. I am trying to see where to mount in Promaster/Ducato van build. I have emailed then to get the safety clearances of their heater, 1.6g 6l water heater. For vans the smaller the better
what did they say? i plan on doing the exact same thing to my van
Can you drop a link to the heater
any news on this
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@@cyberfuker85 even if the O level is checked by the OSD system , you always need to be sure to CO is fine for you life our you can even die in your van , the EXcel ventless water heater is not intended to be installed indoor in a van, if u find any EXCEL description in which they say that you can install it in a 6m square room without any ventilation conduct , please LINK IT .
I SUGGEST NOT TO PLAY WITH CO LEVEL IN YOUR VAN
Awesome vid! Shout out to Dave2Dvlogs yes that's Dave2Dvlogs for bringing me here😂👍
We using water heater build in pump inside bathroom. It connects to electric. . So easy .. it's good when staying in high apartment bcus water low pressure. It's safe too
From all the vans what i have seen ,..you dit explain how the water heater works better than any one
You don’t need to explain installation in this video,..you were very straight forward regarding how water heater works,..which helps to understand
the best water heater is based on an existing heat source... In case of a van the most obvious source would be engine heat or in any case cooling system based heat. In your case the heat source could also be the wood stove. Granted, you may need hot water when the engine is off and the boiler is cooled down, in which case you can employ an auxiliary heater like an Eberspacher or a Webasto. Many people go the easy route and install the cheaper (chinese) option based on hot air. All fine but you then limit yourself what you can do with the cabin heating system.
If you install a water (coolant/water/antifreeze) based heating system and combine it with a selection of central heating boiler parts (like an internal boiler - about 2.5 gallons in some cases - and a 3 way valve) you can have hot water for the sink, hot air from the heater core, either produced by the engine or the auxiliary heater. Also you can use the auxiliary heater to pre heat your engine in case the engine is extremely cold in winter (better for the engine and it starts much more easily)
True, there is a safety issue in the fact that the 2.5 gallon boiler stores near boiling water (the temperature of coolant water in the engine while in use) but by using a mixer valve next to it (also not very uncommon in central heater boiler systems) you can automatically (thermostatically) mix your scolding hot water from your boiler and your normal fresh water tank to a more manageable and safe level and diliver it to the sink or shower tap.
In any case the best ANYTHING is definitely not a device which does one thing (though very well) and nothing else...like an on demand water heater... But you could have done much worse like using an electric boiler (and a ton of solar on the roof) or a even more dangerous gas boiler... Any ways: gas is nice but very expensive, extremely unsafe but granted, if enough systems (more devices) are installed could become relatively safe but then very hard to keep safe (rubber hoses, clamps, 80% fill protection, carbon monoxide detectors, copious vents, LPG tanks and that jazz)
I don't use any gas in the van but instead use liquid fuel to cook with (using a marine style ethanol dual hobb thingy by Origo)
no trouble at any borders, not trouble at any ferry cue, no trouble at campings with safety conscience gas regulations (not that I ever go to campings for gas safety reasons - too many people take gas dangers and safety waaaaaaaaaay too lightly) and more importantly: no gas checks or mandatory technical approvals.
Waakvlam=pilotlight...
How about leave the propane tank outside all the time on the rear hitch? Turn it on only when you need or and shut the valve off at night before bed?I think a tankless propane option is the best for me.
Great comment. I’m going to check out the hob you mentioned
Very nice bro 😀👍
Hello! you have this installed under the cupboards, has this created any issues with the exhaust gases of the water heater? either condensation or poor ventilation etc?
Just yesterday evening got insight to make water heating in van with this heater and boom- your video, heh I’m not original😂😂
How did you end up venting the propane? I don’t want to cut a hole in my van....?
That is a great question!!!
Did you ever get an answer?
It NEEDS a VENT!!!
@@judichristopher4604 i believe there are ventless alternatives. not sure if its that kind tho
You MUST have proper venting!
We are required by our safety cert on boats to have a certain amount of ventilation top and bottom. But we still lose people to carbon monoxide poisoning every so often. Less so from gas water heaters than multi fuel stoves. Never block the vents!!!
Also this is an "Open Flu" type. That means the flame is not enclosed, it draws air from the room it is in and burnt gasses can reach the surrounding space. New Combi boilers for houses these days MUST be "Balanced Flu" whereby the flame is SEALED drawing fresh air down the outer chamber of a triple walled flue and allowing gases to escape up it.
As long as you have them properly vented you are good to go. I would NOT use the flexi vent stuff. It is not heat resistant!
Hey man, didn't you insulate the roof? I see the roof ribs.... don't you get allot of cold, heat, condensation and outside noise?
I'm planning a van myself, also in NL. So I'm curious, the wood you used for the interior, doesn't it make you can very heavy and increase the camper road tax?
nice video again
Well done my friend
If there is a fire in your van no matter how small, Get OUT! The smoke will knock you out long before the flames will get to you. Keep a fire extinguisher at every EXIT, preferably a Halon or C02 extinguisher as they won't make a huge mess with powder everywhere. With the door open you can fill the van with Halon or C02 and suffocate the fire. A switch for an exhaust fan at each exit is a good idea also. Get Safe and Then Brave.
Hi! I was wondering if you were in the Netherlands at the moment? And where are you?
I love your videos : simple and natural...
Mistake = Experience. I bet you'll never do that again. An other very good episode. I think you handled Dave with a lot of maturity. I wish I'd been as mature as you when I was 22y/o.
Hey! Has this exploded yet or had any issues? Haha, I've been deep in research the last few days of how I'm going to get hot water in my van, and from all the complicated and expensive systems I've seen, this is the most simple, least expensive, and seems to be the most efficient, best for space saving and gives you water when you need it without waiting for a full tank to heat and then wasting the rest of what you didn't use.
What made you go with this model of heater? The fact it has a circular exhaust where ducting can be attached to is a big plus, I've seen more open top heaters which would be far harder to catch the exhaust from. But with something like what you have, I think the safety issues of using this inside a van are greatly reduced (Also with having a maxxfan installed, windows open, CO2 alarms etc) I'm very tempted to go with this setup!
The word heater is what we would call it in the states. It's a water heater. In the states, a geyser would be something like Old Faithful. A natural occurrence of water spewing from the ground.
Your awesome!
h Hi there what did you end up using for the flue thanks Brian
I'm in an RV. The gas scares me too. I live in Florida. So I've been hesitating in watching videos.
I just got this same one!!!
In NZ these are called califonts and they draw air from the side, i.e. from inside the cabin. Unfortunately here in nz theyre unable to be certified (illegal) as typically there insufficient fresh air ventilation and rotation. My gas stove alone needs a 70mm dia ventilation hole in the floor to draw from .. I'd hate to think how much draw a califont would need.
You don’t need Teflon tape on a compression fitting . It is not the threads that is holding the water back. Is the compression mating surfaces 👍🏼
you should NEVER use teflon tape on a compression fitting. they are for threaded fittings
nah teflon tape is fine
MrSpart55 no, it’s fine
MrGenedancingmachine totally unnecessary, but fine
alternative ??? -.-
@@Charmony0815 you dont need an alternative, they're meant to run without sealant
Probably been asked before but what heater is it and where did you buy from
hey , IK heb een vraagje. Miss kan jij mij helpen. Enig idee hoe ik 20/40 liter water in jerrycan kan opwarmen door elektriciteit van een dubbele batterij in een jeep wrangler om te douchen. Bestaat er iets wat ik in die jerrycan kan stoppen zoals vb bij een waterkoker ofzo? zeg zomaar iets...
what kind of pump do you use with your portable water heater,
Could you please tell us what hot water heater you used here.
If the water only goes to the shower head, how do you get the hot water to the sink?
what is the type of water pump that you are using with it ?
How did you end up venting this ? Watched a few vids of yours and cant seem to see
Hey heb een vraagje, bij ons campertje ontplofte de heet water slang , mag ik vragen waar of wat voor heet water slang jij hebt gebruikt .
Groetjes Carola en Theo
How did you vent it out ?? (The exaust / hot air) ??
Hey Jonathan why not an electric direct heater instead of gas? I plan my Van nowadays too. ;)
also dave's video sent me here, so take his criticism with some good humor. I'm glad to see your arent as miserable as the video he was reviewing
You can boil water for shower too, a tank is a tank even if you fill it yourself, just add a pump. Boil a kettle, make your coffee and add remaining into whatever reservoir, should be just about right. Don't pour boiling water alone of course but temper the water already in container.
New Subscriber. Great video
I'm with Dave!
Is it reliable and how much is consumption of gas? Thanks
Hi Jonathan, i'm about tot install a geiser, in my campervan myself. You have some more advise?
Nowadays they’re selling insulated geiser which is drawing fresh air from outside instead of inside. I think that is pretty neat.
Think I missed it. Is that heater 12v?
May I ask what mini wood stove brand you are using, where to get, and costs?
It is the cubic mini stove model grizzly ;)
How much water does it waste before it gets to temp?
Great!!!
I think Dave lives with his mom lol. Your van is huge! You're not in the USA, are you?
I like it! Tutorial from start till the finished van sounds like something I really wanna see! Jonathan, you could also share what you learned during the creation of these videos. Many creative people are interested in film and video as well. Arent we? Thanks!
So did the exhaust pipe get hot? How hot? Did you use the flexible mylar hose for the exhaust?
Thanks. I wanted to add the eccotemp L5 water heater inside my van but wasn't sure if it's safe. Now I have more courage to do so. It's just for quick uses at the sink so hopefully not long enough to heat up the surrounding cabinet.
@@NicoJona never mind.
I was to stupid to se the sign in the video.
Sadly they don't sell these anymore.
Similar ones cost 400€ and more
does it need a gas vent for fumes to go out. if so where and how
YES it needs a VENT!!!
Did you not watch till the end? He’s shows the vent to outside
@@mp180170
I didn't SEE it either... at what point (time/minutes) did he show it?
@@mp180170
5:26 he uses a Dryer Vent hose out the window and says it's TEMPORARILY fixed...
Is that what you're talking about?
That is better than nothing I guess... (SMILE)
Mate be careful operating that inside your van, according to HASCHEM regulations, they are for outdoor use only for two reasons, 1 when in use it is eating up the oxygen in the van and 2 due to the Carbon Monoxide gas that is created via the exhaust. As I'm sure you know this is very toxic. I see you have a bit of foil ducting (typically used in indoor hydroponic setups to move hot air out, although not rated to remove toxic gas) but you have this just stuck out the window and the reason your other one broke was due to cold temperatures at which time you will want to have the windows closed. You really should have a CO detector installed as Carbon Monoxide will kill you quicker than an Aussie who's beer and pie you knocked over at the footy. Typically you should use an instant hot water system that is installed in the side of your van so it is sealed from the inside air and the exhaust and fresh air intake are totally external to the vehicle. They are though, about 4 times the price, depends on your priorities I guess. Happy travels.
What model is this heater please
How do you vent it off?
Hi Jonathan, nice job on explaining the parts that you need to connect the water heater and gas. Does this also hookup in your bathroom for a shower? I noticed that you had a good bump up in your subs. Dave2D Vlogs 👍💛
I’m building the eco temp l5 into my bus build. I’m making it vented
Jimmy M would appreciate some detail as to how you’re doing that Sounds really weird to mount these things outside in the snow, wind and rain ??
I second this, would be great to know!
I suscribed to you 'cuz Dave told me.
Anyone have a link to buy this water heater
Is that good enough to take a good shower?
What did you say the heater was called? Could i use this on my boat? 🤔
In a boat I would try look for alternatives that use diesel because of the explosion danger with gas and that in a boat you can not put a went in to let any leaking of the heavier then air gas out... Another alternative in boat is to use electric water heaters that give hot water on demand or the more traditional ones that have a hot water tank.
We call it tank-less on demand, or tank (it'll hold some water in the tank).
Dont know if the knobs warm, but hey who am i to say
They are called tankless water heater
hello congratulations beautiful van
could you tell me the brand of the water heater and where to buy it?
thanks a greeting from Peschiera del Garda Italy
Ciao, per caso hai istallato anche tu un boiler istantaneo ?
@@alessandrobennati2431
No però mi sembra unA buona soluzione .
Ma come si chiama questo coso? Dove posso comprarlo?
@@alessandrobennati2431 no
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Comunque nel video si vede forse la marca e la sigla numerica prova a risalire da quei dati .minuto 2:23 del video
Thanks for the video dude! I’m remodeling a motorhome to travel full time in. Needed to get a water heater for it. Almost done but I just started making vids of the build. If you ever have some free time please check it out I’m winging it and would love your thoughts on. Thanks again bud 🙏🏽
Do you have shower?! :o what does it looks like?
What brand? Jesse!
What brand is it how did you do exhaust? ?? Wtf
Do you have the name and model of the heater please
The bus is sold now, but it is a second hand score ;)
I plan on putting this in a food truck. Seems plain dumb that a number of the mfgs tell you to mount it outside in the wind and rain.
Is the no way to supply fresh air and vent it?
Sure there is! Nowadays they also sell the insulated once which draw fresh air from outside. Bit more safe.
Thanks no one is perfect
Geeeezzeerrrrr!,,,