This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. czcams.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
Man this is so helpful! Want to be off grid in a few years and this was one thing I had wanted to do. Have the Camp Chef version in my Amazon cart and will be using this to begin with while camping.
I love the way that your cat sat so neatly and was so well behaved and listened so attentively and took notes during the first scene. Can I ask the cat a question?
Hello Mark,man I really want to thank you, we were using the c batteries befor which were the wrong ones,in the instructions there is no mention what battery to use,and another big mistake is that I thought they did not send a rubber washer so I stuck in one but then there was already a rubber washer but it was in the wrong place, so when I stuck my wassher on the inlet had 2 washers,so when you showed the right way to put on the rubber washer every thing worked perfectly..I was just about to send back the whole heater to the seller,when I said I should look on you tube. so thanks again.
Nice unit I know when we used to work on some older continuous flow water heaters you had to adjust the flow rate to get the correct temp. Pressure and flow are different things i would put in an adjustable flow restrictor to adjust the temp if it was a real issue. So to get more heat the water needs to slow down through the heater and for less heat speed the flow through the heater
Brilliant! I've lived off-grid in my barn loft for years, and have gotten sick of cold dunks in my beck to scrub up. I'd been thinking about putting a shower in the end of my polytunnel. You've nailed it for me. Thankyou!
I have a Camplux BW422 16L very similar, runs off batteries, (can shower in a power cut) i have water on full. gas at half way, use it everyday, a 19kg propane bottle lasts approx 3 months, it provides the best shower i have used in my 68 years!
Great video 👏👏👏👏 love these showers! That shower head is very nice 👍 , love the long shower hose too! Pretty annoying having to deal with a short hose.
im thinking, this is perfect for showering off grid, or in weekend houses, etc. where you might have water but heating it is a bugger. This is nice and convenient. In fact, i'd instal it in my apartment if there was need for it. Also, i love the fact that it requires no electricity, meaning the power shortage will not affect it. Ad a propane bottle in the corner and you're set. If i needed to install heating and warm water somewhere on the budget, this thing and wall-mounted heaters are what i'd go for, not a big heater/boiler.
Thanks for the video. I've been using the Fastar for 3 years now trouble free. Bought a similar one but different brand from Germany and it is giving me problems after only 1 year.
Thanks mate I just set up my Thurmo mate 6L unit for the first time. And was very dissatisfied with its performance to say the least. It seems to cut out a lot. Hot one minute then cold. I’m guessing my flow is too high as I’m using a RV water pump with reasonable pressure. I’ll insert a valve to slow flow down and see how I go.
Great job I’ve had mine for about 2 years and use it every day. Upgrading the shower head is a must. As I understand it the right nozzle is for pressure not temperature. You need to turn the right.nozzle anit clockwise to reduce pressure to increase the temperature. Counterintuitive I guess. The left gas nozzle should then be kept about half way. Batteries run out so I connect my parallel connected pack of 6x 18650 batteries through the spade connectors and keep the voltage about 3.6v. They are rechargeable and last forever. Easy hack and makes sense. As the unit doesn’t ignite properly below 3volts.
@@ismaeltolentino4500 There is no storage, the water goes through it to heat as long as it's on. Super cheap to run hot water as it only uses gas when the water is flowing.
Thank you for the great review. Very informative. This is perfect! I'm looking for a small propane water heater for a small 885 liter pool, just to take the chill out in a pinch. To hook it up inline with the filter pumps outlet and just let it circulate. It's one of these or a long stretch of copper tubing coiled up inside the grill lol. I'm assuming when you shut off the switch, the heater goes off but the water still flows?
Hi... I carry water for showering in a large plastic icebox in my van. If you allow the water to circulate back into the icebox after going through the system for 5 mins. the water warms, which then ultimately raises the shower temperature.
@@MrMeltedwellies did it help??? another thing, how you control the water temp in a shower? for example if you have separate shower room in a van? first its too cold and gets hotter and hotter and then its too hot?
Great video Mark, I found it very useful as am thinking of using this type of system for hot water, window cleaning using a water fed pole. Some companies are charging thousands of pounds for hot water systems to be fitted to people’s vans!! Could I ask how safe are they? Many thanks Lee
Thanks but you started off the video showing a pump and suggesting that was how you were going to demonstrate it. Then you plugged it into the main water. Will that pump work the shower boiler?
Would it be possible to make a vent cowl to remove the fumes to outside and how would adding a branch leading to the sink tap affect the showers throughput?
Hi All Im thinking of connecting one of these to the caravan outside permenantly to by pass the existing water heater. I assume then i will need to go outside and switch on/off each time i want to use the shower or hot water to wash up As I dont want the heater running all day long using the gas. I think a 6L would be enough to push the water around the caravan
Thanks for the video. Very useful on the whole. One question... If it is scolding hot with the temperature on minimum... Can you turn it down using the other dial? I am considering purchasing but not if it's going to burn me!
His setting in the video is correct. The right knob is a water flow restriction valve. Turning it to the right reduces the water flow so it spends more time in the heat exchanger and gets hotter. Turned to the left is the opposite - more water flowing with less temperature rise.
I tapped a bath half full of cold water, put the inlet hose into the water in the bath and pumped it up through the heater and back into the bath. Eventually there was pre-heated water going through the pump into the heater and back into the bath (Yes, yes, I know it's a dumb thing to do!!). End result was that the water going into the bath was too hot and triggered the thermal overheat switch. Won't do that again. Question is: is there a manual reset switch inside the cover? Help!
I have one and put it inside my camper I used a 5inch by 11 floor register and a metal 4inch dryer metal for exhaust thru wall going to outside note ( EXHAUST GETS VERY VERY HOT DO NOT TOUCH),and I have a 16 foot trailer .
Just created my own system after seeing yours gave me the initiative. I bought a similar boiler but attached one othose cheap chinese 12v motors which works great, in fact it works too well. Trouble with these motors are they're predominantly high pressure 130+ psi which is far too high to initiate the auto back pressure shutoff should you choose to use one of those shower heads with a switch off button on it. The motor labours on and wouldnt shut off even when the output was blocked off, so who knows what trouble this might cause to the internals of the boiler? I sorted this problem by dismantling the pressure switch assembly on the pump end, and got hold of the short (very strong spring) that controls the switch off function and ground about a washers worth of metal off each end. Upon reassembly the system is far more responsive and stops instantly I turn off the shower head button cutting the flow. Thats how I did it anyway, so if helps anyone, good luck. On the off chance you grind too much off the spring, you can always add a washer in as a shim to increase cut-off pressure
Thanks for your reply! I have seen a lot of information on these heaters but never seen anybody describe the function when attached to a showerhead with an on/off valve on the handle. I plan on buying a heater like this but i do not know if it is suitable for my van since I only have around 25L of water. I must have the on/off switch to save water but I don't know if those heaters need a continous flow to work properly? Would you mind explaining a bit?
@:Sven-Tomas. Yes they need a continuous flow at around 16 psi or they cut out the burners for safety reasons, the shower head on/off button is the same as turning the tap on and off. You would use too much water just getting it hot at 6 litres per minute. I just tested mine on my tank and pressure pump system and it took 30 sec. to get warm and 1min for shower temp and if turned off will cool down quickly, .You would be better off getting shower temp water in a bucket/line and a 6 liter per minute 12v pump (eBay cheap) with handy cutoff and/or adjustable rate system. You can use the proper pressure 12v pumps and drop the inlet into a creek/tank/neighbours pool situation, these gas heaters are fantastic and are set up to use common garden variety hose setups (pun intended). One 8.5 kilo gas bottle lasts me 6 months at home at 5 showers a week and I get them filled for AUD $15. Instant on gas hot water system...Yeh Baby.
You might want to check the screen on the water inlet as well.. They can block up over time and the system actually runs better without it. Only down side is over time the shower head might block up, but back flushing the head should.fix that
Hi Mark, correct me if im wrong but the water temperature seems to be set to the lowest? I see how its easily confused as the dial on the left is at maximum when turned all the way to the right but if you look at the line above the dial it goes from small to large
Funktioniert denn das alles mit einer normalen Gasflasche mit 50mBar? Weil auf der Therme steht 28mBar druck. Und funktioniert es auch mit einer normalen 12V Wohnwagen Wasserpumpe? Könnte ich es im Staukasten im Wohnwagen verbauen oder ist das verboten? Wäre dir Dankbar für eine Antwort. Kann man es auch unter Dauergas lassen, und startet die Therme automatisch man man den Wasserhahn aufdreht, also die Wasserpumpe dann anläuft? Und was ist wenn die Gasflamme mal ausgeht wie im Video, strählt dann weiter Gas aus oder wird es automatisch unterbrochen, auch wenn das Wasser weiter läuft? Lg Sandro
Winter/Summer dial cuts out 1/2 the burners on one side of the array on Summer setting.The water control on the right adjusts the rate of flow hence the temperature, to the left =hotter/slower. Get one with the LED temperature display, best idea ever and makes the adjustments much easier.
Have you had any issues with it only coming out super way too hot? My Thermomate was working great for a while now the water hardly comes out with any pressure and the temp goes up to 60degrees Celsius!!!
I’m looking at installing one of these in our 1987 Mercedes motorhome I’m looking at using the onboard watertank as the pump is there already and it goes into the shower room as out water heater just won’t use on gas only electric drives me mad so I’m thinking of using the shower hose already in the motorhome and hooking that to the boiler for the water flow hope this works as hate cold shower
Hi thank you for the video, I bought this one 3.months ago and it's suddenly developed a fault, before contacting the supplier want to see if it's an easy fix, it seems not to be ignighting, there is plenty of gas and the batteries are fine, we Han hear it clicking as if it's trying to light but just it's like there isn't any gas getting to it, we have checked the gas pipe etc but to no avail.... Thanks x
Hello can I ask a question hopefully you can help iv purchased a mobile home I'm replacing the old style gas boiler which is a 6 litre one with a new on-demand one which is a 12 litre have I made a mistake ordering a 12 litre one 🤷🧐 Cheers
Correct me if i'm wrong but the dial+image appears to indicate that the temperature goes in the opposite direction to the others so at the start of the video you actually set it to the coldest setting?
So after hooking up your water supply and turning on your gas the electric start ignites the gas? So am I assuming right that the battery system turns off and gas keeps the water hot during run times? How hot does that water get? 110 degrees?
do i need to buy a pump to push the water inside my house or does it come with a pump. if i need a pump what size would you recommend? i want to use this when our city water goes out and there is no pressure
Great idea, but..... I have had four of them. Not bad when they are working, but three have ruptured in cold weather and the fourth clicks but will not ignite. The price has increased a lot since I tried them so I waiting for someone to tell me which are the better brands before I try again. There can be substantial differences in price, but they all appear to be very similar in manufacture
If you reduce our water flow on thé unit,you Will reduce thé water pressure and you watertemperatuur Will rise.you can see it on the pictogram on our Heater
Few things; 1-Not enough water pressure device will shut. 60psi minimum or so. 2-Remove the screen in the water intake and be sure water is always clean and filtered. 3-I have seen people installing these into vans.Never go Full retard. These are outdoor units. 4-Wind may extinguish flames so keep it away from the wind. 5-When batteries are getting low it will not ignite or have weird symptoms. Use rechargeable good quality ones.They last around 30 to 60days depending on usage and cold weather.
@@x3Cay They dont need that much pressure at all. 35pis 12v pump is more than enough. It's the flow of water that matters, in L/min or equivilent. Im sure you figured that out by now, but just in case someone else comes across these comments with the same questions.
I just sold the one in my camper (because all the plumbing was leaking and I couldn't afford to fix it all) my mum bought the shower off me for her bathroom. Anyways, I just started it up for the first time and the flame inside seems massive! Is that normal? Or is propane too much for it, it says natural or LPG gas in the instructions but says methane gas on a sticker, I've never heard of using methane for these showers so we used propane... just worried the flame inside isn't right... it looks like a fire inside?
I used to have one of these instant water heaters in an apartment in Spain. The blue flame was huge, very powerful. It sounded like a fighter jet :D But oh boy it was fast and powerful. The flame should be blue, not yellow.
Hi people , what I find is 6 l water pump is not enought.That hws was on of on of all time.So I change pump for 12 l and it is work nicely.My wife is hapy so it mus work.
Hey Mark. I got a new but used one of these water heaters a few days ago. Its a 18L-Version of it. Didnt use it until now. The former owner never used it himself. They bought it brandnew and didnt have the proper hose for it. So it was lying around for a few months. I bought it for 25€ but im kinda curious whether it will work at all. Mine doesnt show any lights or sth when i switch it on. Just silence. Does it need to have water pressure or gas pressure in order to switch itself on? Or does it show lights or sound or whatever immediately when you switch it on? In your video it seemed that it switched itself on and ignited the gas by itself as you made the water flow through it. I dont wanna buy a hose for another 15€ if its not working anyway you know? Would be happy to hear from you. Regards 😊
@@MrMeltedwellies Thanks for the reply. :) Is yours still working? Are you still using it to these days? Or was it just a temporary gadget? Ill try mine in a few days. Here in germany our typical pressure regulators for bottled gas lets out 50 mbar. The manual said, the water heater should get a maximum of 28 mbar. So i needed to order another pressure regulator + hose prior to using it. Which pressure did you use it with? Regards. :)
Ive had one of these and the problem of providing the inlet with 50lbs of water pressure out on a campsite really sucks. You have to go out and buy a water pump that is small enough to cart around but wont burn up if no water is running through it. My water pump is never ran more than a second or two without water running through it. Why dont they address this problem. In your video you just hooked up to your house, which probably has 45 - 50 lbs, unfamiliar with pascals, of water pressure. Make another video with that piece of shit hooked up to an actual 12V system with your recommendation for a water pump which is necessary. That portable shower is just junk if you don't properly set it up in the field.
Hi, as my water pressure is quite low in the van compared to mains pressure the water becomes too hot to shower in. Can you advise how to reduce the temperature please? Would you suggest I use summer mode? And maybe reduce the water dial?
Low tech, buy some jb weld, open it up and cover a few of the holes on the gas burner rails. Keep covering a few holes at a time until you've reduced the heat enough.
Using "Summer Mode" automatically blocks off half the gas jets thus halving the heat input. You would need to INCREASE the water throughput to keep the temperature down not DECREASE IT! 🙄
hi, what would the problem be if the unit doesn't self ignite (peso isn't sparking) with new D cell batteries. It also seems to not allow gas through to burner so can't even light manually rendering the unit useless.
So what the Hack? This is just a setup. i had to use a solar camping water shower head and throw the expensive one away that came with the unit. you can get and adjustable water flow shower head save fiddling with the mains pressure you be had if your using a cheap 12v pump without an accumulator. Im going to buy a cheaper second unit hook a t piece on the propane bottle and run two units together just to get some pressure and heat. a dribbling shower is not a shower at the end of the day. i have to admit out of all the cons these units save a lot of money on heating bills but at the sacrifice of a crappy shower. Given that im hooking two units together see how it goes pressure is a big deal when it comes to showers man not so much a hot bath which is out of the question with these units capped at 50 degrees time it hits the tub its cold again you need at least 75 degree to draw a hot bath by the time it cools down to 50 degree. remember body core temp is 37 degree you need at least an increment of 2 -10 degree above to have a "hot shower" Japanese know their baths they go up as far as 60 degree meat starts to fry at that temp the crazy bastards. but they have good health Low cancer rate. Cancer in the body cant survive at a certain temperature you dont want to fry your organs at that temp drinking ice water at that tem helps balance heat away from the body vitals and killing cancer throughout the rest of the body
This was an exact replacement for the old one that lasted about 10 years. czcams.com/users/postUgkx7yWIKcrbA9KMHkGSfcgxW2lsjHT6B8Sh The top of my mitigation tube by my roofline was just a 90 elbow which allowed too much debris to fall down into the fan, eventually ruining it. Without this issue, I bet it would have kept running another 10 years. When I replaced this fan, I added an extra elbow joint so the top tube now it does a 180, which should solve that problem. The radon guys around here wanted to charge me a $300 diagnostic fee, then parts/labor (probably close to $600 total). I installed this all by myself in about an hour for the cost of the fan; it would probably be even easier/faster with two people. FYI the manufacturer's warranty greatly differs depending on whether you install it yourself (1 yr warranty) or have a licensed installer do it (10 yrs).
Thank you so much for this fantastic video. Absolutely clear and helpful. I just bought this heater and this video just save my day!
Man this is so helpful! Want to be off grid in a few years and this was one thing I had wanted to do. Have the Camp Chef version in my Amazon cart and will be using this to begin with while camping.
I love the way that your cat sat so neatly and was so well behaved and listened so attentively and took notes during the first scene. Can I ask the cat a question?
Hello Mark,man I really want to thank you, we were using the c batteries befor which were the wrong ones,in the instructions there is no mention what battery to use,and another big mistake is that I thought they did not send a rubber washer so I stuck in one but then there was already a rubber washer but it was in the wrong place, so when I stuck my wassher on the inlet had 2 washers,so when you showed the right way to put on the rubber washer every thing worked perfectly..I was just about to send back the whole heater to the seller,when I said I should look on you tube. so thanks again.
Nice unit I know when we used to work on some older continuous flow water heaters you had to adjust the flow rate to get the correct temp. Pressure and flow are different things i would put in an adjustable flow restrictor to adjust the temp if it was a real issue. So to get more heat the water needs to slow down through the heater and for less heat speed the flow through the heater
Brilliant! I've lived off-grid in my barn loft for years, and have gotten sick of cold dunks in my beck to scrub up. I'd been thinking about putting a shower in the end of my polytunnel. You've nailed it for me. Thankyou!
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Stumbled onto your video, liked it, thanks for sharing Mark..
I have a Camplux BW422 16L very similar, runs off batteries, (can shower in a power cut) i have water on full. gas at half way, use it everyday, a 19kg propane bottle lasts approx 3 months, it provides the best shower i have used in my 68 years!
Thanks for info, good thing kitty was supervising
Great video 👏👏👏👏 love these showers! That shower head is very nice 👍 , love the long shower hose too! Pretty annoying having to deal with a short hose.
im thinking, this is perfect for showering off grid, or in weekend houses, etc. where you might have water but heating it is a bugger. This is nice and convenient. In fact, i'd instal it in my apartment if there was need for it.
Also, i love the fact that it requires no electricity, meaning the power shortage will not affect it.
Ad a propane bottle in the corner and you're set.
If i needed to install heating and warm water somewhere on the budget, this thing and wall-mounted heaters are what i'd go for, not a big heater/boiler.
Good information for anyone thinking of buying one. I was not aware of this type shower. 👍👍👍
Cheers Chris
@@MrMeltedwellies Hey Mark , do you need a regulator on the propane tank or is the heater self regulating ??? Thanks
Thanks for the video. I've been using the Fastar for 3 years now trouble free. Bought a similar one but different brand from Germany and it is giving me problems after only 1 year.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much for your efforts 😍
Thank you so much for taking the time and effort with this video, its helped me out so much thank you
You're very welcome!
Looks good. Did you need a gas regulator on the bottle end? If so which type?
Good quality video! Well done! Thank you sir!
Impressive, thank you.
Thanks mate
I just set up my Thurmo mate 6L unit for the first time. And was very dissatisfied with its performance to say the least. It seems to cut out a lot.
Hot one minute then cold.
I’m guessing my flow is too high as I’m using a RV water pump with reasonable pressure. I’ll insert a valve to slow flow down and see how I go.
great job my friend, thanks for your video.
Highly appreciated
Keep it up
Great vid clear instructions 👍
Great job I’ve had mine for about 2 years and use it every day. Upgrading the shower head is a must. As I understand it the right nozzle is for pressure not temperature. You need to turn the right.nozzle anit clockwise to reduce pressure to increase the temperature. Counterintuitive I guess. The left gas nozzle should then be kept about half way. Batteries run out so I connect my parallel connected pack of 6x 18650 batteries through the spade connectors and keep the voltage about 3.6v. They are rechargeable and last forever. Easy hack and makes sense. As the unit doesn’t ignite properly below 3volts.
sir, how long does the hot water last? is it enough for a person to take a shower?
can you post a video of what you did?
@@ismaeltolentino4500 There is no storage, the water goes through it to heat as long as it's on. Super cheap to run hot water as it only uses gas when the water is flowing.
a portable gas shower for when u need to do a little final solution cleansing on the go?
Thank you for the great review. Very informative. This is perfect! I'm looking for a small propane water heater for a small 885 liter pool, just to take the chill out in a pinch. To hook it up inline with the filter pumps outlet and just let it circulate. It's one of these or a long stretch of copper tubing coiled up inside the grill lol. I'm assuming when you shut off the switch, the heater goes off but the water still flows?
Thanks for watching John and yes it does
Hi... I carry water for showering in a large plastic icebox in my van. If you allow the water to circulate back into the icebox after going through the system for 5 mins. the water warms, which then ultimately raises the shower temperature.
Nice one Simon thanks
@@MrMeltedwellies did it help???
another thing, how you control the water temp in a shower? for example if you have separate shower room in a van? first its too cold and gets hotter and hotter and then its too hot?
Great video Mark, I found it very useful as am thinking of using this type of system for hot water, window cleaning using a water fed pole. Some companies are charging thousands of pounds for hot water systems to be fitted to people’s vans!! Could I ask how safe are they?
Many thanks Lee
very safe but make sure its in a well ventilated area
Thanks but you started off the video showing a pump and suggesting that was how you were going to demonstrate it. Then you plugged it into the main water. Will that pump work the shower boiler?
Would it be possible to make a vent cowl to remove the fumes to outside and how would adding a branch leading to the sink tap affect the showers throughput?
Hi All
Im thinking of connecting one of these to the caravan outside permenantly to by pass the existing water heater.
I assume then i will need to go outside and switch on/off each time i want to use the shower or hot water to wash up
As I dont want the heater running all day long using the gas.
I think a 6L would be enough to push the water around the caravan
Very informintive,thank you sir
This is a great system, thanks
You're welcome!
Hello, the gas goes off and on automatically when you open and close the water or you always have to turn off the gas bottle
I would guess the washer was put on that way so it would not get missed place when shipped.
Thanks for the video. Very useful on the whole. One question...
If it is scolding hot with the temperature on minimum... Can you turn it down using the other dial? I am considering purchasing but not if it's going to burn me!
Yes you can
Looks to me like you have the temperature turned down low.
hard to tell , the thermometer on the right looks like it is hot
Every video I've seen on these shows the temp adjustment working backwards from the flow rate. Yeah, he's got the temp set to low.
His setting in the video is correct. The right knob is a water flow restriction valve. Turning it to the right reduces the water flow so it spends more time in the heat exchanger and gets hotter.
Turned to the left is the opposite - more water flowing with less temperature rise.
I tapped a bath half full of cold water, put the inlet hose into the water in the bath and pumped it up through the heater and back into the bath. Eventually there was pre-heated water going through the pump into the heater and back into the bath (Yes, yes, I know it's a dumb thing to do!!). End result was that the water going into the bath was too hot and triggered the thermal overheat switch. Won't do that again. Question is: is there a manual reset switch inside the cover? Help!
Hi Mark
Can you tell me is the shower hose is a 1/2 inch IPS fitting?
Hi where did u say u bought new shower head from please. N thanx
Was looking for something portable for my camper....this looks just the job... great...
Can you give me the name of the shower head you used? Thank you
I have one and put it inside my camper I used a 5inch by 11 floor register and a metal 4inch dryer metal for exhaust thru wall going to outside note ( EXHAUST GETS VERY VERY HOT DO NOT TOUCH),and I have a 16 foot trailer .
Whats a floor register?
Great idea...im on that
Just created my own system after seeing yours gave me the initiative. I bought a similar boiler but attached one othose cheap chinese 12v motors which works great, in fact it works too well. Trouble with these motors are they're predominantly high pressure 130+ psi which is far too high to initiate the auto back pressure shutoff should you choose to use one of those shower heads with a switch off button on it. The motor labours on and wouldnt shut off even when the output was blocked off, so who knows what trouble this might cause to the internals of the boiler? I sorted this problem by dismantling the pressure switch assembly on the pump end, and got hold of the short (very strong spring) that controls the switch off function and ground about a washers worth of metal off each end. Upon reassembly the system is far more responsive and stops instantly I turn off the shower head button cutting the flow. Thats how I did it anyway, so if helps anyone, good luck. On the off chance you grind too much off the spring, you can always add a washer in as a shim to increase cut-off pressure
Thanks for your reply! I have seen a lot of information on these heaters but never seen anybody describe the function when attached to a showerhead with an on/off valve on the handle. I plan on buying a heater like this but i do not know if it is suitable for my van since I only have around 25L of water. I must have the on/off switch to save water but I don't know if those heaters need a continous flow to work properly? Would you mind explaining a bit?
@:Sven-Tomas. Yes they need a continuous flow at around 16 psi or they cut out the burners for safety reasons, the shower head on/off button is the same as turning the tap on and off. You would use too much water just getting it hot at 6 litres per minute. I just tested mine on my tank and pressure pump system and it took 30 sec. to get warm and 1min for shower temp and if turned off will cool down quickly, .You would be better off getting shower temp water in a bucket/line and a 6 liter per minute 12v pump (eBay cheap) with handy cutoff and/or adjustable rate system.
You can use the proper pressure 12v pumps and drop the inlet into a creek/tank/neighbours pool situation, these gas heaters are fantastic and are set up to use common garden variety hose setups (pun intended). One 8.5 kilo gas bottle lasts me 6 months at home at 5 showers a week and I get them filled for AUD $15. Instant on gas hot water system...Yeh Baby.
I will correct myself, minimum pressure, I am guessing, would be about 30 psi.
You might want to check the screen on the water inlet as well.. They can block up over time and the system actually runs better without it. Only down side is over time the shower head might block up, but back flushing the head should.fix that
Nice one Brett
Would it be possible to fit a flue on these ?
Hi Mark, correct me if im wrong but the water temperature seems to be set to the lowest? I see how its easily confused as the dial on the left is at maximum when turned all the way to the right but if you look at the line above the dial it goes from small to large
Looks like you are correct
if you want to make human soup in in a bucket with a recirculating system you need a filter on the intake to keep human stuff out of the pipes.
Funktioniert denn das alles mit einer normalen Gasflasche mit 50mBar? Weil auf der Therme steht 28mBar druck. Und funktioniert es auch mit einer normalen 12V Wohnwagen Wasserpumpe? Könnte ich es im Staukasten im Wohnwagen verbauen oder ist das verboten? Wäre dir Dankbar für eine Antwort. Kann man es auch unter Dauergas lassen, und startet die Therme automatisch man man den Wasserhahn aufdreht, also die Wasserpumpe dann anläuft? Und was ist wenn die Gasflamme mal ausgeht wie im Video, strählt dann weiter Gas aus oder wird es automatisch unterbrochen, auch wenn das Wasser weiter läuft? Lg Sandro
Winter/Summer dial cuts out 1/2 the burners on one side of the array on Summer setting.The water control on the right adjusts the rate of flow hence the temperature, to the left =hotter/slower. Get one with the LED temperature display, best idea ever and makes the adjustments much easier.
Have you had any issues with it only coming out super way too hot?
My Thermomate was working great for a while now the water hardly comes out with any pressure and the temp goes up to 60degrees Celsius!!!
@@rorymagnatheredking Maybe check your filters and clean them, Paddy?
It would have been really useful if you had used the 12v pump to see what temperature that made the water?
These units may be small enough to install inside the back door of my campervan. Hooked up to water tank & propane tank.
they work well thanks for watching Jeffrey
These thing make a whole lot of heat venting from the top. Wouldnt recommend installing inside the door.
I’m looking at installing one of these in our 1987 Mercedes motorhome I’m looking at using the onboard watertank as the pump is there already and it goes into the shower room as out water heater just won’t use on gas only electric drives me mad so I’m thinking of using the shower hose already in the motorhome and hooking that to the boiler for the water flow hope this works as hate cold shower
Hi thank you for the video, I bought this one 3.months ago and it's suddenly developed a fault, before contacting the supplier want to see if it's an easy fix, it seems not to be ignighting, there is plenty of gas and the batteries are fine, we Han hear it clicking as if it's trying to light but just it's like there isn't any gas getting to it, we have checked the gas pipe etc but to no avail.... Thanks x
Hi Missymojo not sure but there is a small mesh vent in the gas inlet check that and water pressure that make a big difference low pressure
Mark xx
@@MrMeltedwellies tha k you so much, will check the mesh tomorrow x
Perfect 👌
The 12v pump works on 6ltrs per min, that's the correct flow rate for the heater.
Mains water flow is much greater, foo much water flow = less heat 😁
Hello can I ask a question hopefully you can help iv purchased a mobile home I'm replacing the old style gas boiler which is a 6 litre one with a new on-demand one which is a 12 litre have I made a mistake ordering a 12 litre one 🤷🧐 Cheers
@@Security2U You can still run a 12v pump, but the flow rate should match the boiler, same applies if you are running mains power.
Good setup could it be adapted for a campervan ?
got a video coming soon you will be impressed
I run mine back through the 5 gal pail I pump from .. takes a few minutes but much warmer
good point
Thank you! Can you use methane as well?
not sure
Correct me if i'm wrong but the dial+image appears to indicate that the temperature goes in the opposite direction to the others so at the start of the video you actually set it to the coldest setting?
Lethal, It looks you are right, and i think he's exploded in his shower, i see no answers of people's questions anymore🤔.
@@jamescorbell3349 lol still hear and my mistake about the knobs thanks for watching
So after hooking up your water supply and turning on your gas the electric start ignites the gas? So am I assuming right that the battery system turns off and gas keeps the water hot during run times? How hot does that water get? 110 degrees?
spot on as for water temp thats down to settings on the boiler
Hi Mark, I can’t see what make this is and what model. Am I being stupid?
I want to use one of these to heat a spa. Anyone got any ideas on how to bypass the inbuilt 20 minute shut off timer?
Is it temperature controlled? I guess you could T off the cold supply into a thermostatic mixer shower tap and feed the hot into the other side.
do i need to buy a pump to push the water inside my house or does it come with a pump. if i need a pump what size would you recommend? i want to use this when our city water goes out and there is no pressure
yes you need a pump i will put a link
czcams.com/video/UYh5SPdkqiE/video.html
Great idea, but..... I have had four of them. Not bad when they are working, but three have ruptured in cold weather and the fourth clicks but will not ignite. The price has increased a lot since I tried them so I waiting for someone to tell me which are the better brands before I try again. There can be substantial differences in price, but they all appear to be very similar in manufacture
in cold weather? Did you let them freeze? Obviously then they will brake...
Wil it rust outside
Great video.. by the way fir tge gas ..there is a clip on..rather than jubilee clip
Regards
Bang on
Water temperature is on minimum no maximum...
@macel sip, good spotting
Good eye. To be fair, the orientation of the dials relative to their function is not very intuitive. It's for some reason inverse of the gas dial.
Absolutely spot on my mistake thank you for your input thanks for watching
If you reduce our water flow on thé unit,you Will reduce thé water pressure and you watertemperatuur Will rise.you can see it on the pictogram on our Heater
This helped a lot Mark D.
I have same unit I want to use it indoors,I need to know how hot the heater gets thanks
Please do not use indoors only outside or where gas fumes can vent away easily
I'm considering purchasing this, but would it be okay to be used inside an enclosed canopy type tent?
Not good for you but no worse then a gas heater people use.
Few things;
1-Not enough water pressure device will shut. 60psi minimum or so.
2-Remove the screen in the water intake and be sure water is always clean and filtered.
3-I have seen people installing these into vans.Never go Full retard. These are outdoor units.
4-Wind may extinguish flames so keep it away from the wind.
5-When batteries are getting low it will not ignite or have weird symptoms. Use rechargeable good quality ones.They last around 30 to 60days depending on usage and cold weather.
I wish you were about when i first got mine thanks for all the tips and thanks for watching 👍🍷☀
really 60 psi ?! Thats alot ! Is there a way to lower the trigger pressure ?
@@x3Cay not that I know of. Mine shuts when less than it.
@@samuelkatherinediozarago7692 Okey, i looked up on ebay, The description says that 10-110 Psi will shoot the trigger
@@x3Cay They dont need that much pressure at all. 35pis 12v pump is more than enough. It's the flow of water that matters, in L/min or equivilent. Im sure you figured that out by now, but just in case someone else comes across these comments with the same questions.
I just sold the one in my camper (because all the plumbing was leaking and I couldn't afford to fix it all) my mum bought the shower off me for her bathroom. Anyways, I just started it up for the first time and the flame inside seems massive! Is that normal? Or is propane too much for it, it says natural or LPG gas in the instructions but says methane gas on a sticker, I've never heard of using methane for these showers so we used propane... just worried the flame inside isn't right... it looks like a fire inside?
I used to have one of these instant water heaters in an apartment in Spain. The blue flame was huge, very powerful. It sounded like a fighter jet :D But oh boy it was fast and powerful. The flame should be blue, not yellow.
Would the rooftop fan vent be enough to use this indoor for a campervan?
No you would have to attach a flue
Hi people , what I find is 6 l water pump is not enought.That hws was on of on of all time.So I change pump for 12 l and it is work nicely.My wife is hapy so it mus work.
Can you send me a link of that Orange water connections and the pump ? I do not have water connections using the bucket method Thanks in advance
i got it from B&Q cheers
Hey Mark.
I got a new but used one of these water heaters a few days ago. Its a 18L-Version of it. Didnt use it until now. The former owner never used it himself. They bought it brandnew and didnt have the proper hose for it. So it was lying around for a few months. I bought it for 25€ but im kinda curious whether it will work at all.
Mine doesnt show any lights or sth when i switch it on. Just silence. Does it need to have water pressure or gas pressure in order to switch itself on? Or does it show lights or sound or whatever immediately when you switch it on? In your video it seemed that it switched itself on and ignited the gas by itself as you made the water flow through it. I dont wanna buy a hose for another 15€ if its not working anyway you know? Would be happy to hear from you.
Regards 😊
Needs water pressure to ignite and gas of course
@@MrMeltedwellies Thanks for the reply. :)
Is yours still working? Are you still using it to these days? Or was it just a temporary gadget? Ill try mine in a few days. Here in germany our typical pressure regulators for bottled gas lets out 50 mbar. The manual said, the water heater should get a maximum of 28 mbar. So i needed to order another pressure regulator + hose prior to using it. Which pressure did you use it with?
Regards. :)
If you had just watched his video..
so it can be used on back yard without any electric cord to power it?
Yep defo
I have a camplux 5l for washing my horse ,can you use a normal garden hose on the outlet instead of the shower head ?
Please help
I just got a second hand one,and it has hose click fitting on inlet and outlet,if that helps,some fitted it
Where does the electric come from? Does it hold batteries? Can you connect to 12volts? Lots of questions. Help.
just batteries not changed in two years still working no 12v
Ive had one of these and the problem of providing the inlet with 50lbs of water pressure out on a campsite really sucks. You have to go out and buy a water pump that is small enough to cart around but wont burn up if no water is running through it. My water pump is never ran more than a second or two without water running through it. Why dont they address this problem. In your video you just hooked up to your house, which probably has 45 - 50 lbs, unfamiliar with pascals, of water pressure. Make another video with that piece of shit hooked up to an actual 12V system with your recommendation for a water pump which is necessary. That portable shower is just junk if you don't properly set it up in the field.
So what was the hack?
Hi, as my water pressure is quite low in the van compared to mains pressure the water becomes too hot to shower in. Can you advise how to reduce the temperature please? Would you suggest I use summer mode? And maybe reduce the water dial?
Low tech, buy some jb weld, open it up and cover a few of the holes on the gas burner rails. Keep covering a few holes at a time until you've reduced the heat enough.
Using "Summer Mode" automatically blocks off half the gas jets thus halving the heat input. You would need to INCREASE the water throughput to keep the temperature down not DECREASE IT! 🙄
How long has it lasted - have you used it since?
still got it used a lot
How much water pressure does that little pump give you? Does the heater require minimum pressure?
not sure on pressure but yes heater need a certain amount of pressure to ignite
Mark Davies ok, thanks.
Can you just run cold water through the unit with out gas
yes
Would a inline water 12v pump run this shower
not sure it needs pressure to fire up i brought a julca shower
www.joolca.co.uk/products/hottap-v2?
May I ask what shower head you're using?
it was a low pressure one of ebay
How can I get ut
Can I use it to heat radiators.
Dont think so
Thanks for your review, but you had the temperature on minimum, NOT maximum. Look at the symbol above the dial. Cheers.
Yes, you are right
can these be run on small stove gas cannisters ?
If you have the correct canister fitting and regulator, certainly.
Can you build it horizontally under a camper van ?
no not advised
@@MrMeltedwellies thanks. :)
In the United States we use compression fittings for propane .............
Hahaha yeah your wiring standards are shit too
hi, what would the problem be if the unit doesn't self ignite (peso isn't sparking) with new D cell batteries. It also seems to not allow gas through to burner so can't even light manually rendering the unit useless.
water pressure , battery switch, gas not on ,sorry not being rude Marie
Do you mean orange calor gaz bottle ?
yes
Can I ask if it still works.as mines broken after a year.
yep still working
So what the Hack? This is just a setup. i had to use a solar camping water shower head and throw the expensive one away that came with the unit. you can get and adjustable water flow shower head save fiddling with the mains pressure you be had if your using a cheap 12v pump without an accumulator. Im going to buy a cheaper second unit hook a t piece on the propane bottle and run two units together just to get some pressure and heat. a dribbling shower is not a shower at the end of the day. i have to admit out of all the cons these units save a lot of money on heating bills but at the sacrifice of a crappy shower. Given that im hooking two units together see how it goes pressure is a big deal when it comes to showers man not so much a hot bath which is out of the question with these units capped at 50 degrees time it hits the tub its cold again you need at least 75 degree to draw a hot bath by the time it cools down to 50 degree. remember body core temp is 37 degree you need at least an increment of 2 -10 degree above to have a "hot shower" Japanese know their baths they go up as far as 60 degree meat starts to fry at that temp the crazy bastards. but they have good health Low cancer rate. Cancer in the body cant survive at a certain temperature you dont want to fry your organs at that temp drinking ice water at that tem helps balance heat away from the body vitals and killing cancer throughout the rest of the body
How much heat comes out the top ?
Hi Phil well you could easy cook on it it would burn you very easy