BMW M3 Vs M2 which one to buy/build? ** Modified e46 content **
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2019
- Follow me on this video where we look into if its worth popping into BMW to purchase a warranty friendly BMW M2 or build an uprated e46 M3 for similar outlay! The question is which is more fun!
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If your a real Bmw enthusiast an e46 m3 will never get old (as some people mention). I have wide body e46 m3 turboed and I’ll never get rid of it. The engine noise can never be out did. I love this car.
Well you just made your e46 undesirable with wide body and turbo lol. Might as well have the M2 at this point
E46 all day long
M3 E46 can’t beat the driving experience of the noise and feel of the car as you are drive it. Great channel with some amazing content.
Agree Martin 😎
Thanks & glad your enjoying the videos 👌
Just discovered the channel and am enjoying it. I think an OG M2 will be my next move from my M140i although M4’s suddenly look good value but I struggle with the noise.
Plenty of M-car related stuff on the channel 👍 shame Matt didn’t keep the M2 longer as I think with a few upgrades it could have been awesome 😎
M4’s indeed have come down in price and tuners have started to improve the sound with equal length centre centre sections - heard a single turbo one that sounded like a GTR 😎
BMW E46 M3
ive a m2 the proper sounding 1 sorry had to say that , 2018 dct with bcs downpipe & jb4 its bloody great fun as an all round packing its fantastic, the only problem i have is when will it get stolen from me ?
Well no fucking Turbo 6 could mess up with the 3.2 N/A. Sell M2 and you can get E46 M3 with proper exhaust for the money
I have an E46 M3 as well which I love but I think its time to upgrade to something else.
I'm looking at the 981 Cayman S,
Bmw M2(preferably Competition if prices go down),
and E92 M3.
It's a tough choice to make, but this video definitely helps.
I would go for a 6 speed manual and would take it to the track as well as drive it daily.
Have you ever driven the 981?
A good friend had a Cayman S black edition (featured briefly on the channel in the very early days so not massively detailed video) his was a PDK and whilst the handling, noise & PDK gearbox were great it lacked the straight line performance for me - over 100 in my e46 I would start pulling away
I own a 05 E46 M3 CS ( converted to manual ) and a good mate of mine owns a 2017 DCT M2.
I could be biased but imo the M3 is far superior! I have done some tasteful modifications to the M3 but the whole feel of the car is completely different! I've always hated the way they compare these two cars because honestly they are opposites. The M2 is a much easier going cruiser, where as the M3 wants you to really drive it and push it to it limits and feels like that's what it's made for, you never feel unsafe or like the car can't handle it. Where as the M2 I'm never 100% confident when taking a corner etc.
Still an amazing car but I'm yet to see what the fuss is about it.
It's equally as quick as my best mates stock 09 E92 M3 in manual.
And my M3 pulls lengths on the M2 but I'm putting down 253rwkw so not exactly a fair comparison because it wouldn't take much for that M2 to destroy my lil NA ///M lol
Hope this somewhat helps mate
E46 m3 for me but that said I wouldn't be upset owning an m2!
Agreed, would like to drive an M2 that’s had a few upgrades - certainly good fun cars in standard form 👍
@@stoneautomotive it was an interesting comparison though as both were worth similar money. By the time my 46 is done I would have spent the same but over a few years!
@@ahmetahmet9673 yep mine is the same, spent a small fortune over the years but do love the car 😎
I’m wanting to upgrade my m135i to a proper m car struggling to decide what to go for budget 30k max the car is my only car but I drive a van to work and back.
F80- I’m at the rough end of the market viewed a couple of dogs
M2- like you said for a weekend car is it enough of an event feels similar to my m135i to sit in. Not driven one though.
E92- do they really cost that much to run. The V8 is sure an event
E46 best of the lot to look at and that sound but lots of rough ones out there potential large costs. Would it feel dated to use as an only car..
decisions decisions umm
My partner has recently bought an M240i and granted the M2 is the better car but the only big difference for me was the LSD and DCT box, the ZF box is perfect for fast smooth shifts but lacks in the “feel” like a DCT thud.
Personally I would go with the e92 over the F80 now, I was originally going to go F80 but with these charge cooler, turbo & crank hub failures your better off buying an e92 and saving the £10k for fuel 😂
In fairness there not terrible to run just make sure if you do buy one get one that’s had the shells, actuators, tyres & brakes all done as that’s where the costs start to add up on these - PS HK and LCI are a must if you do go e92
Stone Automotive thanks a lot for replying. Think il have to go look at a few e92’s 👍🏼. Great channel by the way no bs just decent videos
No worries, good luck on your search and thanks for the positive feedback on the channel 👍
m2 all day long bud you will love it .
Would love you to drive my e46 m3 same mods but I went in a different direction with most
What direction have you gone with yours? Mines the generic sort of I’ve bought an e46 M3 but can’t afford a real CSL 😂
The list is too long but everything but oem parts mostly fluids oil Vanos rod bearings , software csl rev match
Bushing all round brakes discs pads and lines standard air box I found gave best power for me . I have wrapped the air box in a heat resistant gold tape to reflect the heat great mod , lowers the iats by 50% you need to drive it. The list goes on
Where are you based MB?
I’m in London do you have a email? I’ll pm you
Ping me an email - stoneautomotive@yahoo.co.uk 👌 or you can drop me a message through Instagram if easier - stone_automotive
Great in-car sounds and such and great detail. But in a comparo, shouldn't you drive both cars back to back in the video? And maybe a walk around the two while reeling off relative specs (dimensions, wheelbase, weight, etc.)? These are the basics in car comparison videos that yours is lacking. Sure you've covered the E46 extensively in other videos and allude to the car during your driving the M2, but that's not what most viewers expect with the title "M3 vs M2", and many will be left wanting for a more direct comparison between the two rather than a 13 minute video of you driving just one. Anyway I love the statement at 8:05 where you say (paraphrasing) "Unless you're in third gear in the E46 on the highway at 70, the M2 will annihilate it at that speed." Totally agreed. Of the many joys in driving the E46M3, which I have for ten years, perhaps my favorite thing is shooting through slower moving traffic in third gear from about 70 to redline, which is about 95 I think. It's exhilarating for the driver, and the intake noise scares the pants off any first time passenger even if I forewarn them. I would put the engine note of the E46 right up there with the best naturally aspirated sixes of all time, including Porsche, and the best sounding front mounted six ever. It's really that good.
Again agree, sadly with CZcams being very much a hobby for me it’s been a steep learning curve & comments such as yours have improved the channel with each video (or at least I hope so lol)
Being the director, camera man, host & editor can be a little over whelming at times and I assumed most watching this video would have already seen the e46 content but appears that assumption was my mistake.
No e46 M3 was harmed (or seen) during the making of this video
From the comments I got this one wrong.. life of an inexperienced CZcams’r 🤦♂️
Hopefully the later videos are better for you 👍 (plenty of e46 M3 content on the channel)
E46 m3 for me, better sound, less money
idk about less money. I am about to redo my vanos, rod bearings and reinforce my subframe for 9600. Plan to repaint the car, bigger brakes. looking at 20ish grand. wondering if i should do the M2 vs upgrade my M3 components
PLEASE get a external mic! Guys, we cannot hear you over the wind!
All sorted in the later videos, now running DJI wireless mics 👍
10 years deep in m3, and now values have jumped, considering cashing out for an M2. (Daily). Tough call!
The M2 will be a better daily especially if you’re going SMG > DCT, I did enjoy the M2 a lot after driving it more since the review & can see the appeal. Be sickening watching the M2 drop in value as the e46 continues to climb but it only takes one big bill from the e46 M3 to destroy the balance 😅
@@stoneautomotive Yeah the depreciation is bad - but I would keep the m2 for ages, and if I need to switch to a 4 door, the F80 is depreciating at the same rate, so I can "swap". Even an engine rebuild in e46 won't match m2/f80 depreciation. But it's the constant little things, (which I have kept up with). Its more the fact I've had e46 for a decade and it's double in value (WTF?!?) so being able to buy a 35GBP car for only 12GBP difference is apealing. Thanks for your comment. PS - I had SMG, converted to 6MT now.
Based on todays price in 2024, an OG M2 is a way better buy than a e46m3.
Really depends what your looking for in a car, as an all rounder the M2 is the better choice but for pure NA driving thrills you can’t beat the e46 M3… unless of course we throw the e92 M3 into the decisions 😅
First off, I would prioritize the lighter of the two... Secondly, I prefer manual transmissions above all so regardless of weight, I'd choose the one with a clutch pedal... Thirdly, daily driving of a car with a clutch should get the driver used to same to the point where he or she'd be okay in it, even in traffic... Lastly, Genuine concern for emissions will only be perceived by myself when mankind's Money System - used to control mankind & sought after due to greed - is gotten rid of\given up, permitting Electric Vehicles to be properly made & mandatory by law(which should be a reality years now): instagram.com/p/BlFLLBMBiXb/
20k for an e46 m3 smg...???!
£12k gets you a standard one.. look at the spec at the end of the video
Didn’t you say 20?
For one in similar spec to mine, to be honest you could easily spend more than that if you purchased the modifications new and paid someone to fit them 😬
@@stoneautomotive I understand you would want the extra spending taken into account in resale value, but also know it wouldn't quite be the case in the market.
A mint low-mileage manual bone stock would be much more highly regarded.
A brilliant one with only tasteful mods you've got there regardless.
pcfanta oh yes fully aware you never really see the money back with modifications 🙈 agree also that an original car in 10-15 years time will be the one demanding the premium (getting that way already) but me and that little e46 have been on some mighty adventures so hopefully I will never need to sell it 👍
*modified e46 content*
*doesn't even drive the e46*
The e46 M3 is mine, plenty more videos of it on the channel (hopefully helps)
Thanks,
James
@@stoneautomotive im not doubting you have other e46 content, i just feel clickbaited into this vid because i wanted to see some e46 content like the title says
Good the e46 sounds bad.