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Riding one of the new London SRM Buses
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Riding the latest member of the "New Bus For London / New Routemaster" family of buses.
This variant of the NBFL / NRM family is 10.6m long and uses the Volvo B5LH Euro 6 parallel type diesel hybrid chassis. It has been allocated the bus type code of SRM. This bus type code was previously used when 25 of the original Routemaster buses were painted silver for HM The Queen's Silver Jubilee in 1977 and at least one of these historic Routemaster buses is known to still exist and - and still use the SRM designation. Maybe this explains why these buses use the VHR bus code.
Whilst the NRM and NBFL buses are integral constructions the SRM comprises a bus body that has been placed on an existing well-known bus chassis. Nevertheless it was found possible to use many existing design features and physical parts. Therefore the side structure, roof and floor retain the distinctive NBFL familial design, although the SRM's moulded fibreglass rear dome is a new feature.
Bus garages which also operate NBFL /NRM vehicles will appreciate the high level of commonality of spare parts - only 24 major body parts are unique to the SRM buses.
Unfortunately one design feature of the new SRM which will annoy some passengers is the lack of lower deck rear window. Yet other bus body types that use this chassis do have these rear windows!
I'm glad the New Routemaster design will live on as the two-door one-staircase SRM. The SRM's on route 13 are purchased by RATP-Dev, not TfL unlike the 3-door 2-staircase New Routemasters.
Good video CityTransportInfo
What makes me angry is that they've done away with the open rear platform and closing the doors on the other variants. They promised us the nostalgic fun of being able to hop on-and-off with the new Routemasters and we've been denied it so soon :(
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Is that not true on every bsu though? Like I was on a packed rail replacement service the other day and I couldn't fit my shoulders in one seat and I'm not exactly massively broad.
The Borismasters will be disposed of shortly, these Volvo based hybrids are a whopping £50,000 cheaper, and carry a similar number of passengers, and actually have better fuel economy, and are still bodied here by Alexander Dennis in Falkirk, and should their be demand, Plaxton at Scarborough. These also will have a longer lifespan, as can be easily provincialised by the aid of a single door conversion, which will add around 4-5 extra seats, and fitment of a manual ramp on the front platform. The Borisbus has been an £800million waste of public funds
craigybus1
They don't look nearly as good though, they look pretty generic imo, at least the new routemasters were different.
I am baffled. Why would Alexander Dennis be bodying a Volvo chassis with a bus body made by Wrightbus of N Ireland?
The Borismasters and the SRM's are Wrightbus buses. Not ADL buses!
It's better in away with the doors like that so they can't miss a fare by running on and quickly getting of with not paying but the thing is I miss the back open doors and the stairs when I used to use them work time
Very nice 👍
Thank you for watching and commenting :-)
By saying these buses are 'integral constructions', i'll expect them to be monocoque bodywork or at least where the bodywork AND bus-chassis are considered as 'original & official' designs from the maker of the bus-chassis, as is the case in a car or van where the brand of the vehicle as a whole extends to the entire vehicle without treating it seperately into bodywork & chassis sections from different makers.
Therefore the impression i get from this new 'bus' is that this is actually a Volvo bus-chassis fitted with a non-Volvo bodywork from a British body builder with customised styling to reflect the traditional British double-decker bus design.
My favourite type of bus
Me too
They just chopped off the rear 1.4 m section for that design. it used to house the second flight of stairs.
The staircase also doesn't look as nice.
awesome
New bus now, where are they?? Is very harder to find it. Worth it try to ride this for one day, but unseen this before! :(
Nowadays they seem to be used on bus route No.183 - you can look to see where they are on the London Bus Finder website lvf.io - I tend to search by quoting the bus route number or search on the vehicle number plate. For these buses this begins LJ66 EZ with the last letter varying for each vehicle. To find them all I searched on lvf.io/#LDN|lj66ez*
There are also two of these buses (with a different internal seating layout) on bus route No.37, these have the number plates of BV18 YAD and BV18 YAE
lvf.io/#LDN|BV18YA*
The London bus Finder website will help you find almost all buses in London and also some other towns & cities here in the UK.
Arriva needs to buy these SRM's for 259 and 349
As far as I am aware, SRM buses are no longer in production.
@@CitytransportInfoplus oh alr
does annoy me when tfl and other councils spend a fortune constructing bus lanes that the buses do not use whilst the drivers have to sit in queues
you are not the only person who gets peeved in this way.
Also not to mention the real route 13 (operated by RATP-Dev) will be withdrawn on 31st March 2017 and Tower Transit will take over route 82 as it will be renumbered 13.
I understand it's a route that is well served but it doesn't make sense to keep cutting bus services. I know the traffic is bad but it's so bad that the bus network is diminishing - I suppose it's a loosing battle but in terms of mileage i think TFL should switch to passenger numbers for profit rather than miles operated as you loose more Traffic Mileage per mile than passengers as there's multiple buses on one route.
Is it also true that the 139 route will be extended to Golders Green and be transferred to London Sovereign from Metroline?
Yeah, the 139 will be extended to Golders Green Station (in the current 13 bay I suspect) and will transfer over to London Sovereign. Apparently (from what someone has told me) these SRM's will go onto the 183 and the Gemini 2's and 3's from the 13 will go onto the 139. But, I think they are more likely to put the SRM's on the 139 into the centre of London than on the 183 to be honest with you.
You're probably right. I'd imagine that a lot of brand new bus designs make their debut on a Central London route. I wouldn't be surprised if the Gemini 2s, 3s and SRMs are transferred to the 139. Must mean that London Sovereign will come to Waterloo for the first time (if they've done it before, please correct me).
I'm guessing that when this video was made the bus was fairly new? It seems quite nice inside but wow it sounds very rattly already. I drove double deckers in the mid 90s and brand new Volvo Olympians didn't rattle like this, even our 1989 Leyland Olympians seemed to be much better build quality.. Thankyou for taking the time to video the buses and routes you have.
London should have many things others have such as:Bus rapid transit(ie bus lanes, articulation, fare collection like those on the trams). And trolleybus routes. Maybe streetcar routes in central London.
And we have Trams in south london
We got most of these but they are really uncommon
Doesnt have that cool looking staircase at the back, that the boris bus has.
true, but its only a two door bus
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citytransportinfo I think it’s a half done version of the new route masters because they have stop buttons built into the poles and a back staircase with a back door and this one has normal stop buttons and stairs and door placement and it’s pretty much a normal bus with a route master interior
It is my favourite buses
I never knew there was a SRM variant I always thought the New Bus for London and the New Routemaster were the same idk why
I like it this video
Thanks for the ride. Why do these buses not have exterior electronic destination signs?
TfL prefer traditional roller blinds as until very recently the electronic displays were not as clear or easy to read.
citytransportinfo Thanks for the response. I would think that the latest LED technology would have solved that problem!
@@JeffreyOrnstein TFL are definitely starting to put these in some of their routes, so I suppose that’s a good thing.
How did you manage to find a practically empty bus?
I boarded it at the terminus, which was Aldwych, and was lucky that it remained almost empty for the rest of the journey.
ahh k :)
Can you use any door to get on?
Hamish Catherwood no
Hamish Catherwood front door onky
How many variants of the Boris Bus do we need...
There's a 3rd, the volvo b5lhc.
Sorry, meant a 4th there.
I also have information on the b5lhc version, it will come soon, as part of an update about these buses with other unseen footage.
citytransportinfo nice video
thanks Sam :-)
London has so many double deckers but less passenger. The buses are quite empty.
too much traffic - too many very slow 20mph (30 km/h) speed limits - closing bus lanes and replacing them with cycle lanes -
all these make bus travel slow and less popular.
@@CitytransportInfoplus Hong Kong has a different case😂 The government discourage people to cycle in busy city. Private cars need to pay high tax. Bus routes are well designed. They urge people to take more public transport.
More taxis and busses then people and cars
sometimes London is like that!
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Also, London has so many double deckers but less passenger. The buses are quite empty.
why have these buses gone backwards with the engine at the rear when an underfloor engine was supposed to be the future?
Because their futuristic idea doesn't work.
DANIEL WOODHOUSE the hybrid engine is bigger
A London bus operated by the French government (RATP). Neoliberal ideology gives public subsidy to French state owned company for the benefit of Parisians.
Indeed so... because of the dysfunctional way the franchise system works, Londoners are subsiding buses and other transports in Paris, France. Its a shame that TfL are not able to operate bus services in Paris so that the profits can be used to help fund the fares freeze and investments here in London!
The same up north, my local rail is half owned by the Dutch state.
Great video - first
thanks :-)
Has it got a sunroof as standard....the red interior is depressing.......and dark.....hope its got fm stereo...and electric ariel....pain in the butt manually putting it down for the car wash....can't wait to get my hands on one to drive
sunroof? no. Not these, although other modern bus designs do have skylights.
This is a bus, not a coach.
Wright budgetmaster
Why is there no back window downstairs?
frozen screen
@@alanjerome9631 what?
GOLDERS GREEN?!
Although the bus was going to Golders Green I only travelled from Aldwych to the St Johns Wood / Swiss Cottage area.
Being one who no longer drives and uses the transit system in the Montreal Area rather 3extensib=vely, I am looking...
Where is the machine to tap your Oyster card? and do you have to tap on and tap off as in some parts of the Toronto system?
(Montreal uses a more elementary electronic card system known as the Opus.)
On most of London's buses passengers use card readers located next to the bus driver. This is not seen in this film.
Also, since in London the buses only charge 'flat' fares, no matter the distance travelled, we do not need to use card readers when alighting from our buses.
Thankfully!
By the way this is London, UK not Canada/USA
@@Moshimulations I was aware, an also I was aware thet Londoners don't themselves, use the oyster card. Barclay's does that forthem ith their bank cards, which IMHO makes sense there.
The Oyster cards are more for the tourists.
As for the comparison, Montreal and region is in the throes of a major construction boom, especaily as concerns the REM (driverless electric trains) which they have not seen the likes of in some 50 years, and he Opus system which I had mentiones is going to be added to and.or replaced with what I would call the Android Opus - not a card but an Android app.
The real reason for this is that, unlike London tradition of paying by the distance for most rides, Montreal has been worling with a comibination of one ticket, one ride, or a monthly pass, and a concentric series of 8 zones covering roughtly a 50 mile radius of Mount Royal.
However both the REM and the C.I.T.s (regional carriers) need to be able to charge by the distance and on the basisi of other parameters, which the present Opus is not capable of handling. Hence the existing system is truly obsolete and is being gradually replaced.
But not all the information is available in English, thanks to Bill 101 and the whole sordid history of "The Quebec Canada Problem", so being fluently bilingual (and with some knowledge of Spanish) some of my words are based on what I have researches in French.
Also, from city to city, geography plays a signofocant role, as it does here in Montreal.
Montreal is on an island, and in the center of the city is the mountain, and extinct volcano. Added to that the city is sitting on a lot of sizeable underground rivers. so when I see the future Peel station ofr the REM is to be 14 stories undergound in the middle of a huge water cistern, itlooks to me tha what the engineers have in ind is to use all he extensibve dynamiting and digging to serve both the REM and the making of a storm reservoir to play a part in the control of ground water resulting from melling ice, snow and rain until it can be dumped into the St. Lawrence River.
Given that Montreal gets a lot of snow in the winter, there is a lot of runoff to be dealt with in the spring, and so defence against flooding is important, not to mention other potential dangers from inadequately managed water.
Exit and entry to tht station right in the middle of downtown, will be acompllshed with bauks of high speed elevators, much along the general style of what is known as "The underground city.
There are many videos of this on You Tube, but most are either silent (as with the drone footage that has been posted) or in French only, but very well orchestrated.
Hence the major fare reform that started last July 1, 2021 and will see many chages ongoing as it all rises from the ground (or goes down into the ground depencing on the places).
@@BrucexfromxCanada Actually, Oyster cards aren't just used by tourists but literally everyone apart from the people who decide on using contactless.
It's Called Boris Bus.
No it isn't, because this one doesn't have the back door
SingleHybridRoutemaster (SRM)
No it’s son of Routemaster
The nrm is better
no it is worse
Horrid bus on a horrid chassis. Disgusting that TFL are even trialling these pieces of crap.
What's wrong with them?
***** Fake hybrid combined with a tried and tested design that has failed. Not to mention the rear's horrific.
Surely they've done some internal work to counter the issues found on the Borismaster?
+Alex Berry Nope, these are actually worse. Still haven't put in opening windows, the bus is really dark. No back windows, and the one on the upper deck is partial.
Marshell George I don't know where do you get the idea that the Volvo system was fake. This is called parallel hybrid, which is just a different hybrid system. It is as hybrid as anything else. AFAIK the type is the best performing in the real world both from reliability and fuel economy standpoints amongst the existing hybrid bus types working in London. Its preference by London operators over the last few years simply reflect this fact.
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