Marine Boot Camp after Gender Integration
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- Marine Corps Gendered Integrated Boot Camp at San Diego. We can do it but should we do it. For 2 reasons. More gender-fluid combat training at Parris Island - • USMC Social Experiment... .
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Marine Corps Gendered Integrated Boot Camp at San Diego. We can do it but should we do it. For 2 reasons. More gender-fluid combat training at Parris Island -czcams.com/video/-dF36TRGXcM/video.html.
I used to feel really old school about this but in my opinion if these females are going out of their way and have the ovaries to even join the Marine corps in the first place let them do it. They definitely have more guts than I do. Also we're going to be seeing more females on the battlefield anyway so might as well get them integrated at basic. If they can do the job and want it that bad I just don't see what the problem is anymore
Wasn't one of the golden girl's a Marine..?? Not sure what she did but she was one good looking Marine.
@@james-im1sj bea Arthur women's reserve finished basic in 1943 and became a typist in Washington
I was with Lady Lima, as all the other companies called us. Those girls were strong as hell. I know most of the female in the video, lmao. The men and women worked together great and the males helped the females. The goal was to have males and females to work together in the training pipeline as to reduce the shock that would come upon hitting the fleet. I was there with them if you have any questions. Those girls got fucked up by their DI's, but they worked their assea off. Also, that female recruit is a great friend of mine.
Not it’s a terrible idea not because they can’t do it it’s because men are genetically stronger it is what it is
The Russians and the Chinese fully support America’s new training ideas lol
How will anyone take the title of *"Devil Dog"* serious when it was produced of "training" grounds such as this? smh
Let them do it.
Yep, I fully support
They probably came up with the idea when they saw the way America was heading.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I almost laughed when I got yelled at by a female DI at Parris Island. The government just keeps continuing to make the military into a big social experiment.
politicians screw up everything, now they have to ruin our military
You still said Aye Ma’am every time, and know she’s doing better than any male could
Female instructors are soft it’s just in their nature they’re good with empathy
Data from the U.S. Marine Corps demonstrates that injury rates in combat roles are significantly higher for women than men. The Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force found that musculoskeletal injuries were twice as high for women; and research conducted at the Infantry Training Battalion demonstrated an injury rate for enlisted women six times higher than the rate for men. Additionally, the level of physical fitness required for combat roles is only achievable for a small percentage of women. Data from the Army’s gender-neutral Combat Fitness Test revealed a fail rate ranging between 65 to 85 percent for women, compared to 10 to 30 percent for men.
@@xitlalymartinez9225 Data from the U.S. Marine Corps demonstrates that injury rates in combat roles are significantly higher for women than men. The Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force found that musculoskeletal injuries were twice as high for women; and research conducted at the Infantry Training Battalion demonstrated an injury rate for enlisted women six times higher than the rate for men. Additionally, the level of physical fitness required for combat roles is only achievable for a small percentage of women. Data from the Army’s gender-neutral Combat Fitness Test revealed a fail rate ranging between 65 to 85 percent for women, compared to 10 to 30 percent for men.
As she was screaming at the Recruits, I almost laughed.
I am Ex Australian Defence. Did my time in the force and 20 years later I reenlisted with my children and did another 6 years. Now this second time around through boot camp the second time. Ladies were integrated with men. And I can say 100% the ladies have it totally different. I watched first hand many of the girls fail at many task but throwing on a few tears they seem to get a pass even though they fail. We caught two of them sleeping with the instructors and were instructed our selves not to mention it other wise there will be consequences. The obstacle courses differed from male and and female, Lower walls ect. Training while carrying a fallen fellow soldier. They segregated the ladies and gents so the ladies were carrying body weight around there own. When we were out field for a week. They were bused back to base daily to freshen up. Now there are many girls and women that ploughed through no different than men. I applaud them. The other 90% I saw all got special treatment and passes even though they fail. When asked why this was the case we were shut down. Only later we found out they have to fill a Quota regardless of pass fail. Since then My entire family has left the defence force as now we no 100% without a doubt that 50% of the people there we could no longer rely or trust out lives in there hands. If they want equal then that's what it should be. Now to note - I have many female military colleges who feel and agree the same way I do. Some of them also confirm that yes they to received special treatment even down to being escorted through Nav training and help holding and firing certain weapons. Again, if you can do it go for it. But if you can't don't give them special treatment. Also to add I have a friend in the police force. He also is saying they do exactly this also. But worse. out of 30 men who passed all tests 10 Women failed but they had to fill 20 spots. Here is the sad but true thing. They passed the 10 ladies anyway and admitted that they had to for diversity reasons. To fill the numbers. So 10 males who passed were denied to 10 ladies who failed just to keep the diversity numbers. This is appalling and I personally have lost all respect like many others for what once was a very special group of people. You can find the articles and references to all this if you search for it in the News Australia.
Semper Fidellis brother!
Being yelled at by a muscular man is intimidating. Being yelled at by a muscular woman isn't. It's not bias, it's natural and instinctive threat assessment.
Exactly
Some people pay good money for that
It was hilarious.
@@tylermitsko2359 all NCOs can tear down recruits and rip them to pieces, a guy in the french foreign legion lost his balls and cock for not hearing an order from his Sargeant, he order to stop firing but he keep firing, so he ordered him to lie in the ground and shoot him in the ballz with the FAMAS
Anyone can be a psycho, but females may be more evil because the feel like they need to compasate for their physical weakness to male NCOs
The woman nazi guards wher known for being extremely cruel and sociopathic
Fr. I’m prob gonna judge her rather than respect
This is sickening and it’s going to cost lives ! You tell Marines & Soldiers that they are not allowed to get political and yet you force a political agenda upon them ! Total BS
it will be said i am sexist or something. no. i want the best for my grand daugther who goes to fight. focused training. pushing her to what could be her best level. winning. putting the wnba against the nba in pt is self defeating at best.
@@JamesonsTravels yeah I’m just a Gen X Dinosaur that wants to protect my wife and children and not send them off into harms way to get killed or worse raped and maimed call me crazy 😜
Ps the bitching and moaning started 500 meters from the start 😂
@@JamesonsTravels Boot camp / SOI requires you to be 100% focused on becoming a combat ready Marine, Mixing in sexual issues at this point will only detract from that IMO. The typical 18 year old recruit has enough to deal with and doesn't need this. Once they are Marines then figure out how to integrate them in combat roles.
The establishment of an Armed Forces has been political since it was introduced as a Congressional power by the Founding Fathers.
I’m 75, went through Navy boot camp in ‘65 and could NEVER have taken a woman screaming at me seriously. I ignored my mom but when dad hollered I shook in my Keds.
That is not due to gender, that is due to gender roles. For the longest time women were the carers and men the authoritarians. I grew up with a single mother, I would run scared of my mother if she were mad...
@@s66458--- i think you will find its more to do with the frequency /tone of the voices than simply the gender roles alone...
Not if you were black. I watched how my best friend would discipline her kids. They would line up in front of her as she grilled them drill sargent style and say, "Yes ma'am, no ma'am" their lips all aquiver trying to hold back tears. And Dad, though not all black was equally as demanding. They were all wonderful, outstanding kids and even more so as adults now
@@s66458--- yes as a child an adult is stronger. But an adult man can deck an adult woman with ease, shatter her jaw, and leave her bed ridden for weeks. He can pin her down and have his way with her. He can break her arms and legs and have her at his mercy. That's why men don't take it seriously because it is a joke.
@@taasch2505 and I can take on men. Clearly you need to get out. Yes, many women are not able to, but some are.
It's depressing to see what's happening to my beloved Corps. Semper Fi Jameson
A perfect situation of "Never interrupt your enemy while they're making mistakes".
The west is fucked.
@@africanlipplateandbonenose3223 integrated training is the least of worries right now lol... Our military as a whole is getting fucked more and more each year and covid was the nail in the coffin...
The deep state globalist elite are making sure the rise of China happens
If your enemy looks suicidal you facilitate them a long rope...
yep
Pro tip: A female DI screaming like a banshee is not intimidating.
More like chihuahua.
Specially when she's jumping around like the one in the video was. That's be very difficult not to laugh at
Werd.
I think the worst part of it is that she doesn't even sound like she's screaming, it just sounds like screeching - I actually started to laugh when I heard her because screeching is in no way intimidating
Your Momma is here to 🥾kick your butt, wipe your tears 💧and make you into lean mean green fighting machines!🪖
Was a Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego. Male and Female shouldn't be in the same training. I am stunned at this. God help my Corps
USMC lost to British Royal Marines in competition for first time ever… I’m starting to understand why now.
"If the marine corps wanted me to have a girlfriend, they would of issued me one" - major payne
*Corps
Even Goggins said that once on his audiobook lol
That movie is fucking funny
That was said in the Corp way before that poor representation of a Marine movie.
Still funny
This in no way increases combat effectiveness. If anything, it could damage it. I don't think warfare is the place to try these experiments.
This! The role of the military isn't to promote social change. It's to defend the Republic.
Ask the Israeli how their combined army performs...(spoiler - most women cannot do the job men do in the army)
@@markusfalk9459 Israel’s forces aren’t integrated any longer…..
This is going to sound so mean. But it has to be used in practice to show everyone whether or not it is sustainable. Sadly some people can potentially die due to an experiment that is getting pushed by people who have no idea what they are talking about.
@@uqs57bju true, but standards are there for a reason. If they need to be refined then it should happen across the board. There's no reason having a lower standard for women, after all; if that's the standard that translates to combat effectiveness, there's no reason to hold men to a higher standard.
My aunt was a Marine, during WWII. She was a cook in Hawaii.
It is getting harder and harder to be a proud Marine.
Semper Fi
It's getting harder and harder to be proud of America.
I graduated from Marine boot camp in 1968. When I came home from Viet Nam, I became a fire-fighter for 6 years and a police office for 4 years. And In every case where women were allowed to enter male dominated jobs, the physical standards had to be lowered to allow them to pass. While the lowered standards were tough on the women they weren't on the men. Look at what happened at the Army's Airborne School. I've had friends who passed through there on the way to Force Recon said they actually lost a lot of their physical conditioning because the standards were lowered so women could pass. They're trying to do the same thing with women at the Army's Ranger School. You don't have to be a doctor to know men and women have different physical abilities. I'm not saying we are better, I'm saying we are different. For instance, I can't have a baby but a woman can. That doesn't make a woman better than me, it just makes her different from me. This woke society is trying to erase those differences instead of celebrating them. Saying it is so doesn't make it so. Like an Afgan war lord supposedly said, we are lions led by sheep. Amen to that.
I can't argue with you more, I'm 20 years old boy and I already feel way to old to understand what is going on with this mentality nowadays. I appreciate your service in Vietnam and I kinda wish I had the same experience as you did, but from what I was able to learn through my experience. Is that you can teach you women theory about physics, what used to be men's job etc and they would understand better than men. But if you put women doing in practice what they learned in theory they just don't know what to do, because literally they overthink to much about things when men naturally knows how to deal with it. I don't say this as a stereotype but back when generation was about men and women only, this differences were somehow understandable and people learned that is the way it is. Nowadays everything seem kinda like a misogynistic because we are not making women be equal to men in terms of strenght and mentality. Men and women will never serve the same purpose and I never understand why they think men got the advantage when they clear are the ones who got more disadvantage than women through decades.
I mean, there isn't thing that is worse than ww2 and actually the man faced it like most of the time. Women didn't, so I don't get it what are the complainings about, if it is salary, a secretary has a better wage than most of factory men and you name it.
There is plenty of facts of why men suffered more than men and yet, we won't bitching about it. I doubt if there is ever even another world war women would be the predominant soldiers while the men would be the miniority.
Well said marine well said, thank you for your service and welcome home!
nobody forced your friends to lower their standards, all you gotta do is shoot for the old standard. When you find yourself agreeing with the ideals of an afghan war lord, you gotta ask yourself "where did I go wrong"? The same applies if you ever think Hitler had some good points.
Detective Pikachu Go back to the kids table. You have no business in adult conversation.
@@randomschittz9461 It must really sting to think a kid is more mature than you.
I agree, PT should always be about performance.
true, but performance is a matter of opinion since gender now is
Meritocracy is dead in the US...especially when it involves any form of government intervention/oversight.
But What About All The Woke Feelings getting hurt? America has become a Society that has become so comfortable that are creating “ Issues “ just so they have a “ Purpose “ and “ Reasoning “ in their empty Social Media Lives because that is more important to modern American Society.
It isn't about PT; it's about killing other human beings, or have we forgotten what we have a military for? Do we really think that we should be training our girls and young women in the area of killing? Do you really think we need to see our wives, sisters, and mothers coming home in body bags or that it is good on any level?
@@camborambo5546 that is the most simple and perfect way I have heard that explained. Thank you.
Being one of the first recruits to go through the Army’s Gender integration of Basic Training, I can tell you that it greatly reduced the effectiveness & difficulty of Basic for the male recruits.
It also adversely affected the morale & discipline of the units. I experienced the same thing in the field after Basic.
It is absolutely Bad!
I also had a female TAC Officer in OCS. Not the same. I’ve seen the demise of military effectiveness as a recruit, enlisted man, officer & commander.
I say again, the Results are Bad!
My first day at boot camp a pregnant female RDC yelled at me in my face. I stared back without blinking n eventually she started weeping. The males had intervene. I will never forget.
Bullshit? Really
Not a marine here, ex-active duty scout with the 101st, 1 tour in Afghanistan 10-11.
I turned 40 on the Pakistani border and am not a big guy but I was in pretty good shape for my age. On my last Chinook/night insert we humped out after a week on top of a mountain/hill. I was the AG AND we had mortars with us. Those of you that are grunts and humped missions with mortars know what that means. Anyway, I found on our exfil that my age and size/fitness level made me a liability for my guys. I slowed them down and they had to wait for me.
We also had a large guy (230ish wihout gear) from Alabama take an IED and have to get stretchered at night to the LZ for pickup. That was tough.
I concluded after my time that I didn't want to be the excuse for, or reason why some mother's kid got hurt or killed, so I got out of combat arms.
Sometimes it's not about you or what you want, it's about the team. This is not a game.
I'm not against women serving in combat, just against them serving in combat alongside men. If a platoon of women want to go out and get shot at and blown up, more power to them. women with women, men with men.
Women on the battlefield are going to get killed.. and get males killed more than ever because males will not want to see the females get killed.... OR CAPTURED... it's a terrible fucking decision for GI JANES... but I suspect if/when the American people see little Jenny dead from an open head wound with half her brain matter on the ground on Al Jazeera, maybe the 'chicks' will stop the want to join certain MOSs...
@@charlesbukowski9836 killed on the battlefield, a woman is far from being as bad as captured alive. As a female, there are uses they will make of her before her end.
Well, you should be. Only about 4% of women playing dress-up in the millitary can meet the minimum physical standard men are held to, and that's under training conditions. Even if we booted out the 96% who can't cut it, the rest will still get hurt more easily, take longer to heal, perform worse, and cost far more for the same performance. And I guarantee that the mere presence of Speshul company on the battlefield would compromise operations.
This is going to be such a huge problem for actually
Deployment. Such a mess
@@sanders-kids-o-rama2797 That is the biggest problem with female front line soldiers. Yes, they are weaker, slower, and smaller than men (on average), but the real problem is what happens to female POWs. The enemy can't be expected to have the same respect for female virtue as we do, and expecting them to is like expecting an insurgent to follow our rules of engagement.
The level of intimidation to an enemy watching this would seem to be almost zero.
They are laughing at us.
@@thetraveler1182
Unfortunately, your allies aren't laughing.
@@adventussaxonum448 They sure aren't. They are wondering where the Military Might is....
@@adventussaxonum448
That's why we won't have allies much longer! We only had allies because we were strong and feared!
Zero is still a number. It's pretty much negative intimidation at this point
Never been in the military, but had paramilitary style academy before my time in corrections. Being yelled at by a male SGT definitely commanded more respect then being yelled at by a female SGT.
I was in US Army and in basic it was always a minimum of 2 miles run. I was 64c, a motor vehicle operator, a truck driver. When I joined my unit we had a few female drivers and some of them couldn't even change a damn tire on their truck. The smallest man we had had no problems with that. Just think if we had to go into the combat. We did have a "funny" story in the unit. A female got married, 6 months later she left our unit and joined her husband. She was 3 months pregnant. I was really sorry for that guy.
When I was in Truck Driving school (88M) in 1987, we had about four women in our class. They would often be last coming to formation-Our Sargent once yelled: You don't need to put on make-up-You don't have to look pretty for the trucks!
I was in the Army in 76 to 82 as a 11C 4.2 mortar. I drove the PC and assistant gunner. Also drove a 2.5 truck and drove safety jeep. But was st a 11C. I don't know what your talking about. So all you did is drive
@@keithrowell8895 Yes, I my self, was licensed to drive over twenty different trucks from 6X6 cargo, Buses, and Semi's.
During Desert Shield/Storm I was the Battalion Commander's personal driver while at Fort Benning (There's a "war" story!).
@@johnjennings2672 win I was in the Army at ft Hood we didn't have license for military vehicles. Just jump in and go. We did every year do a DDC course to drive a officer around and to drive an officer during live tank fire. Someone would just say get a jeep or truck at the motor pull and go here do this. Now this was in 76 to 82.but by the time 77 came around I was and SP 4 then went to bnuc to become a E5. Gotten rank pretty fast going over seas. 13 months in I was promoted to SPEC 4...like I said that was then.
@@keithrowell8895 In 1987, one had to have a valid State driver's license and a form (forgot it's number) which listed every machine you were trained and qualified to drive, from a car to tracks. We driver's liked to see who's form was the most full!
we're screwed
Yep, its all over mate !! Face diapers an all
Probably for the best. If we're this stupid, we have it coming
Don’t be dramatic. The US literally funds the military with a hundreds of billions of dollars. We’re screwed because we haven’t diverted any of that money into public education and basics social programs
@@natthekiwi7074 So, we're screwed.
@@natthekiwi7074 The US spends more than 60% on social welfare programs. Only 15%-20% on the military but don't let that fact get in the way of your simple opinions.
I served almost 8 years in the Corps, 72-80, and was a Senior Drill Instructor with Kilo Co. 3Rd Bn, 76-78. I was meritoriously promoted to Corporal, Sergeant, and Staff Sergeant. I was the Honor Graduate of the Staff Non Commissioned Officers Academy in Quantico in Oct. 78. I qualified as a rifle expert 6 years with the M14 and M16. I scored “first class” every time I took the PFT (physical fitness test). I was also WSQ (water survival qualified). I loved the Corps and wanted to excel. I still love the Corps and my fellow Marines, past and present. Why do I mention all of this? Just to relive my glory days? No, but to hopefully convince people, especially idiotic people in positions of authority, that there are others with experiences and even expertise that see the folly in gender integrated recruit training. Social experiments should be conducted elsewhere. Boot camp is for hardening the mind and body to endure hardship and if called upon, to close with and destroy the enemy. Let’s leave it that way. Semper Fi!
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damm dude congrats on the premotion and all of you're qualifications hope you inspire some of the next gen to aspire to your level of achievement.
thanks for your service, I'm 66, so we're close in age, you sound like an outstanding Marine, why did you leave? you had a lot to offer the Marines
@@michaelsix9684 I had 3 sons and an alcoholic wife. Tough sledding! Got out and dumped her later. By the way, all 3 of my sons became Marines and now a grandson! Oorah!
@@wyomarine6341 you are absolutely correct. SEMPERFI
@@paulspeers272 sorry to hear wife went bad, congrats on having 3 sons in Corps, my brother was in 76-81, Marine exp. helped make him a big success as civilian, has his own business and worked in telecomm.
I was in Navy boot camp in 04. There were integrated divisions, but I was in an all-male division. My division got every single flag available, the only division that was able to do so.
I was Army and didn't serve in integrated anything until after Billy Bob took over as POTUS in 92. My daughter and son served in the Corps and neither were integrated training. I know my son said his boot camp was hell and my daughter laughed and said her boot camp was super easy other than the occasional bullshit. My son thanked me prepping him for boot camp by having him do push-ups, running, gorilla drills, pull-up, etc. My daughter who was also very athletic went in about 115lbs and gained 20lbs of fat. My son went in about 155 and came out looking like a chiseled piece of iron. So you tell me, which one was more adherent to standards? BWAHAHAHA more difficult than it was 10-20 yrs ago my ass. Go ask a 60/70s Ranger, SOCOM, Marines, etc, etc or 80s/90s how hard it was. They'll tell you of recruits hospitalized or dead from the activities. Yeah it's not the objective. You best realize real fast if you're not trained well then you will die in combat. Your enemy could give a rat's ass about your integration, toughness, or difficulty of training. They will shoot you in the damn face in a heartbeat. Your training isn't what sets your planning capability, it set the tone for well you can react and complete the mission. Planning is for officers, fighting is for enlisted. If you're going to boot, then you're not an officer so you best be capable of brawling.
"Women have been serving in the Marine Corps since 1918, and we've done so well..."
But those weren't combat roles, they were usually medical or clerical roles. Female Marine combat roles haven't been a thing until maybe 20 years ago, during the Second Iraqi War. That woman doesn't know what she's talking about, she needs to get her history straight. If she's talking about one or two female Marines who just so happened to find themselves in combat way back then, those don't count. Those are random outliers and are not the average. They were not placed in combat as a matter of policy, but by a series of events outside of anyone's control.
Exactly! This was something I would bring up all the time when I came home from my deployment 11 years ago...
These women that had "seen combat" were being wrongly compared to the men that went out everyday is find and kill insurgents in Iraq. Those women weren't the "tip of the spear". In most cases from what I remember the female soldiers were involved in a convoy that had been ambushed and they were forced to fight back... they weren't on direct action missions ffs.
This crap will only succeed in lowering the training experience of the men in the units and making them less combat effective. Period
And those rare situations are a perfect example of why the giant children have no business playing dress-up in the military. If you end up in a situation that's gone way past sideways, people who can't even meet the minimum standard are an unacceptable liability.
The medical roles are filled by Navy Corpsmen. I was a Corpsman for 10 years active duty, the last 7 with the Corps. I saw WM's who were cooks, truck drivers, clerical etc.... I did all 7 of my years with the Corps in Victor units. It would have been the very rare WM who could have kept up on humps and PT.
This is Congress using the military yet again, as a social experiment. The results of this experiment are going to be measured in lives lost. The irony of all of this is, the Marine Corps is ignoring the results of their own study that showed that females in combat roles were inferior to males in just about every way.
Female Marines do not serve in medical roles, that is for the Navy Corpsman (male or female). Yes, I am a former FMF Corpsman (8404) 89-93, 3rd FSSG and 1st MAR DIV. I went through FMSS at Camp Pendleton and NONE of the females could finish a hump without a male taking their ruck and carrying it for them. They were always last on runs and PT Course, broke down physically and mentally, and yet they were pushed through. This was early 90's.
Since 1918? Thanks for the clarification as I thought that comment seemed odd. Women having been totally and utterly oppressed by the patriarchy and all and weren't allowed to do anything, like, since forever! It never ceases to amaze me at how many examples there are (when women want there to be examples) of women doing lots of things they tell us they weren't allowed to do going back hundreds of years. It's almost like they just make it up?
I'm a female. Though I'm going to get crap for this, I know there's a difference between the results of a man and a woman's physical activity. They're obviously built different, with a man having considerable more upper body strength than a woman. Get mad if you want, but there are certain physical jobs that a man can do that a woman shouldn't.
I was watching a CZcams video the other day of a cop pulling over an alleged drunk driver. He called another officer to do the DUI investigation. Soon a female officer walked up in all of her 4'11, 85 lb body. Are you kidding me? She couldn't take a preteen down to the ground. This officer actually had to ask the allegedly drunk driver to sit on his bumper because he was too tall for her to see into his eyes. By the way, the man was of average height. If I didn't know better, I would have thought it was a parody.
Woman want to be treated the same as men, until they are treated the same, then they cry, "You would do this to a woman" ? Oh boy.
I think some women are definitely strong enough to be held to men standards. For those women, mad respect and go ahead with gender integration. But for the other women, they should train separately to not drag the standards down with them. We should only strive to maximize combat effectiveness of the Marines. Unfortunately we're seeing lower standards just to fill in quotas.
@@kennethkho7165 I agree. However, there aren't many woman out there who are as strong as men. Also, you have your Libtards who feel if a man is in a position that a woman should be able to be in that position as well. Then, because they aren't as strong, women are given standards to meet that are less than a man has to meet. Therefore, you end up with 4'11" police officers that are a joke.
@@98shon98 I agree
@@98shon98 did he pick you yet?
@@sharinettegonzalez23 ??
Our Kill Hat opened and held the door for some female recruits carrying some boxes. Their DI saw and started yelling at him that he wouldn’t do that for his male recruits. (He would not have.) He just laughed and turned around and walked off.
I had some female DI’s yell at me at PI. I almost had to catch myself from rolling my eyes. To be honest I would have been pissed if a female was my guide or squad leader and I knew I was better. I found out about the tree line at boot camp. Had to get my respect
It's as simple as comparing it to home... Mom yelling was moderately motivating and when she "had enough" she called dad and the real motivation happened.
Amen
The worst was when dad got called at work; then you knew you REALLY screwed up!
Gee I don't know my little 5'2" mother was a terror with that switch in her hand...
@Shredneck and old school Marines used to make you into a marine, now they make you into a diversity excuse and cannon fodder.
It was the other way around with me mom came in with the belt
Working on a military training facility I can unequivocally say the standards have been lowered. I went through basic in 84, my father in 63, the standards had relaxed from his era to mine somewhat (wartime vs peacetime military). However, since then I've seen a continuous decline in standards all around, and even worse for "integrated" units. I've seen women loaded unto transports and taken back to base to shower, use menstrual products, relax and then brought back to the field 2-3 hours later. This occurred in the middle of field exercises supposedly representing combat conditions. The men received no showers, no relaxation breaks, and yet they say the training is the same.
@Steven Tidd Thank you for your service we’re you at Fort Ord in the 80s?
@@saabab1474 Never been to Ft Ord, did my basic at Knox. Spent nearly my entire career overseas either stationed or deployed.
Same here in the UK. In the space of 20 years put military has turned into a joke. It's a disgrace to my friends who died in the service of this country.
The problem with that kind of training is not that women are present but that they are treated differently than men. Just use the same standards for everyone and be done with it.
Why not make these women train and fight while experiencing menstrual pain, to better reflect actual battlefield conditions? (Men have to fight under very uncomfortable conditions.) I think women should do only support roles or anything else not directly combat-related, especially since few are the women capable of fighting well in a combat zone. Intelligence gathering is one suitable role for women recruits.
This will not end well and it will take way from the main goal for these recruits…..keeping them alive.
I had a female one. I can honestly say i almost laughed.
“Are we doing it because we can, or because we should?”
I think this says it all.
China I’m sure doesn’t care if there’s women in their military. They’ll kill the weak just because they know they have a billion men ready to fight. MEN ready to fight
We can get away with lots of substandard activity when we don't have a near peer competitor. We're going to learn the hard way.
@@bhoxified8932 yup, now except China knows this because all they have to do is go on Google and see our new standards and so long as they require more out of their soldiers than we do ours they’ll be ready for anything.
@@ABCXYZ-sz9gh war with China would mean the end of the human race. Lol were never going to war with China. It would be a nuclear war that would last about 45 minutes x
@@hhuodod2209 never huh? So we should just bank on that notion alone that it’s never gonna happen? So why even care what they do in the first place? Why is the US buying long range cruise missiles primarily used in naval conflicts from Raytheon? I guess they using those for villages in Afghanistan?
I was a Senior Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego. I completed a successful tour that ended in 2017. I’m glad I got out of there before the social experiment became that intense.
This is so horrible and makes my blood boil--and I am not even a veteran!
On top of that, can you imagine doing the job with a diaper on your face? 🤣
Semper fi, from PI. 1980. Just a shitbird corporal 0311, but glad for the experience with a clean DD214
@@josepharmstrong402 LOL!
Good Luck Marine Corps, you'll need it.
Most people in charge of this positions will not be honest in their reports. As a 20 year Army veteran, we always had supervisors exaggerate or over rate an exercise. Had to make their evaluation shine for promotion.
Bruh, The caption photo is phenomenal!
Lil dude/dudette with pretty sunglasses and rouge Looks like he’s about to win the dance off competition
Ι'm a woman and even though I have worked my ass on gym and martial arts, I cannot surpass the strength and stamina of a teenage boy. Training with men in martial arts, has made me better and stronger, yet deep down I know that they 'are a bit softer with me, because they know that as a woman, I have a more fragile body. Reality checked.
Nice
to hear from another sensible woman.
And that's okay there's nothing wrong with that, women have their strengths as well like multitasking.
And that's why they should be kept separate. It means something different to be a male marine from a female marine. If they have to lower standards to keep females in or have separate standards for males and females then they shouldn't be intergrated. Some things they can intergrate the training for, like drills and joint task force exercises, but physical training should remain separate.
Nothing to be ashamed of. My wife was an amateur champion boxer, but I'd never put her in the with a male opponent. Fallon Fox is an example of why that shouldn't happen.
@@jimmyellis745 multitasking is a skill anyone can learn, women have far better strengths than this.
I must admit, I did chuckle at the female DI's shrieking at the recruits. I'm sure they're very tough and capable but the high pitched screaming is just not intimidating.
I had a female dress drill sergeant she was tough as fucking nails. The females tend to be a lot more aggressive and demanding probably because they’re in a male role. But she was tough. 300 pt etc
I was here with this company, and the female DI's fucked the dudes up. I preferred getting blasted by my killhat then the female DI's
It depends on the chick, at basic we had this midget chick cpl who use to scream in this real squeeky cartoony type voice trying to be something she wasn't and was not intimidating at all, but there was definitely some harder female NCOs who you took more seriously, it's when they try to be something they're not that you see right through them
@@lll2923 True
@@1ronin715 That’s a female 300 PFT. LOL! I wouldn’t have even had to train to get that.
I've heard multiple stories from friends who went to integrated training at Fort Jackson of prostitution rings and pregnancies. Putting men and women together in these high stress training environments is terrible for the health and training of both sexes. What Marine general in his right mind would look at these integrated army units and think, "wow, we should do that too!"?
I was in Kuwait in 91’. Army Cav Scout. I remember them giving us a questionnaire asking what we thought about women in combat arms. Never dreamed back then there would be a coed boot camp.
China and Russia are developing warriors and advanced weapon systems. Meanwhile we are priding ourselves on checking off diversity boxes. Let's see how well the chick with two mom does when China goes on its Taiwan adventure.
🤣 looking attheir history, they've never taken the offensive (militarily) against anyone that I can recall. Economically is another story.
She'll go all Jessica Lynch and forget how to use her weapon.
Dude, the US leads the world in advanced weapons systems. Stop clutching your pearls.
We shouldn't even get involved in that "Taiwan adventure." It will be more of a heartache than it's worth.
@@sitbone3 They should have put you in charge of vehicle inspection in Afghanistan.
Simple Solution - seat ONE standard and if a Recruit, male or Female, meets/exceeds that standard they become Marines. But, you NEVER lower that standard!
Yup, no special standards for everyone.
Yeah I never understood why the requirement was lower for women.
The army tried that.. all the women failed 😂
@@MyLonewolf25 You don't say. Color me surprised.
@@MyLonewolf25 I watched a female Ranger candidate come across the line finishing a ruck march (I think that's what the Army calls it) and she was dragging her gear, if I remember properly... IMO that's a failure... I don't care if you are crossing the finish line you MUST be able to carry your gear and function after a "forced march" (That's what it's called in the Corps) Dragging your rifle... Failure. Dragging your pack... Failure.
When you begin observing men vs women performing MCMAP against each other the difference in aggression becomes very obvious
One thing I hated about my basic training experience in the Army at Fort Jackson was training alongside the girls. The whole experience felt effeminate and sterile. It was the most castrating boot camp anyone could ever ask for. It was so bad, I thought we were going to be issued skirts with our Class A's. Speaking of uniforms, females look absolutely ridiculous in the new "crusher" style service caps the Army has begun to issue, which look terrible in any case, regardless.
Remember the old days when a person had to meet the mental and physical qualifications to occupy a position, which were the same across the board and it wasn't considered racist/sexist?
They can say that it's done that way now, but that's a lie. Every time we are told women can do just as good as men in the military, as soon as the women struggle to meet the requirements exceptions get made and standards get lowered.
i am having a hard time remember that in the govt. in real business you hire only the best period. who makes you the most money. reality.
@@JamesonsTravels …don’t jump on that horse. Back in ‘67, after shipping overseas my CO came to me and said I had to teach a guy in my squad how to read. “Only the best “……ha.
@@sitbone3 Like now they can all read, yeah right!!!
The physical standards for an 18yr old woman are practically the same as a 45yr old man, well they were for the RN in the early 2000s.
@@JamesonsTravels some states mandate a certain percentage of women and minorities after a company reaches 100 employees or something
If I wanted to be screamed at by a woman I’d go find my ex wife.
I'd suggest reading a book called Co-Ed combat. Really good on this topic and really goes into the problems of integrated units.
Jameson,
I really appreciate your analysis.
It's interesting 🤔 and at the same time humorous.
Keep up the good work Marine.
When female drill instructors yell it’s literally like being the toxic girlfriend yelling at you 🤦🏿♂️ if you get yelled at by a grown ass man that hits different
sure does! lol like how is this reality? like i keep finding myself asking myself about alot in our country now a days!.
Bingo
Wait till the transgender gets ahold of the mic
@@mercharris5266lolll I just remember that one bit what the transgender DI on some veteran channel, I died laughing
BIngo. I can't stand a woman shrieking at me. I agree when a man yells it hits different.
I did navy boot camp in an experimental integrated division back at the end of 2001. It was hot garbage. Ended up taking us three extra weeks because the fraternization was out of control. Trying to get marches in order was an absolute mess. 6 foot tall men and 5 foot tall women have a very hard time getting into step with each other in marches. The women also couldn't PT at the level the men could. It's was joke then and it's a joke now. The only solution ends up being to make the men train at the level of the women. It's the curse of standards set by the least common denominator.
So what you are saying is those men that trained with women never reached the standard that was reached before integrated training.
I call BS. The Navy has had gender integrated boot camp since 1992. What division were you in again?
@Advanced Driving No I don’t wonder why because I’ve never heard this. So you are telling me that the worlds best pilots that land on aircraft carriers, the Blue Angels, the most elite combat team (Navy SEALS), best snipers, SWCC, and the most selective military academy are all not taken seriously by other branches? Btw, other branches also have integrated basic training.
BTW Navy and Marine officers both attend the same training at the US Naval Academy. They just select which branch they want to go into near the end. Also, there’s not a single female Navy SEAL but there are thousands of female Marines.
Maybe you can see this analogy. Why the Comprehensive schools in the UK were unfair to the high achievers who had thrived in the grammar schools. Before they began to downgrade the grammar schools (for equity--in this case class reasons). grammar school graduates has completed well for university seats with the PUBLIC schools, and for good jobs in London. Not any more. The Labour Party’s hostility toward the grammar schools ironically benefited the Public Schools who already had advantage.
@@frankshanks9726 why do you need to know what division he was in? I was in div 159. What are you going to do with that info?
Right off the bus in Ft. Polk Louisiana we had a female yelling at us and that didn’t go over to well. I was in J.R.O.T.C in 1983 and volunteered to go for training at the base for a few weeks. That woman was out of control and made us laugh. She didn’t like that and those of us that laughed we’re almost sent home 5 minutes after showing up.
I seem to recall the first week of operation Iraqi freedom, several woman were taken prisoner and quite a few men died trying to rescue said woman.
My father served in the Marines becoming a Captain before going into security detail in the 80's. He was 6'5 with massive shoulders and his gaze alone commanded respect. Nothing about a 5'5 woman with small shoulders shows that at all. Everyone of those males is going to be a Gomer Pyle giggling like hell of a drill sergeant woman a lot smaller than them trying to scream and yell in their faces.
Are you short by any chance? And if so do you blame your mom?
@@idkwhatsmynamelol9281 Are you a troll by any chance?
@@wwc51450 nope. Just asking a simple question. Did I strike a nerve hobbit?
STOP LIVING 'THROUGH' YOU DAD...BE YOU OWN MAN FOR A CHANGE
@@idkwhatsmynamelol9281 lame ass comments with no substance. Sound like an angry female.
God help us, I'm female and the women yelling at the troops sounded like a damn chihuahua. We are ripe for the Pickens of any country to just walk in and invade our country.
With due respect, no one can "just walk in and invade" an armed citizenry. America is unique in that respect, and other countries know it.
Right…. I’m pretty sure most the people in this list have guns so I highly doubt anyone would try and invade us. Might try other tactics but not an invasion
🤣🤣🤣
@@johnmichael7983 Bingo
My brother-in-law's dad was a marine back in the sixties and he said they were physically beaten from the time they got off the bus to the time they graduated. My nephew joined the marines a few years ago and his grandad was not impressed with how weak they training has gotten and how soft they are on cadets.
I chuckled more than once when a female di tried to break me down like my heavy did. Not even close to being the same as the threat of violence isn’t even considered
110% Bad idea. 2021 The Corps we once knew is no more.
Wars aren't fought the same anymore really no reason for old school vietnam style training.
@@thisisrivera1 old school is exactly what you'll need when china eventually comes to collect. .... And it's coming
@@blueridgeprepping4864 General John E. Hyten, vice chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Monday, "Our goal should be to never go to war with China, to never go to war with Russia.
@@thisisrivera1 You have no clue what is coming or you wouldn't make such a stupid statement.
@@thisisrivera1 Like I say... you have no clue
I went through Airborne school in '91. My company had about 25 females at the time and they were placed in their own platoon. Every so often the female platoon and only the female platoon was ordered to sound off with an "AIRBORNE!" war cry. And every time the men would bust out laughing because they sounded like chipmunks compared to the guys. Of course the men got punished because we were at the position of attention, so laughing at the girls got us a smoke session haha
LoL That's all the more reason to integrate. Mix the chipmunks in with real war cries = no laughter in formation = elevated level of discipline = for the win. Sarcasm is how I cope. 1989-2008 U.S. Army. Don't forget no more singing cool cadence about Eskimo pussy, my girl with hips like battleships and being a vegetable.
That's great! Thanks
I graduated from Airborne School in May 1990. There were different PT standards for males and females despite the fact that both genders to control the same parachute. It was all a lie. I was in Germany for Desert Storm and processed an Ordnance Company for deployment. All three platoon leaders were female and all three were sobbing as they prepared to depart for Ramstein for the war. Not a good scene for the troops looking to these Lieutenants for leadership to get them back home alive. But hey, war is a racket. General Smedley Butler, USMC.
@@pest5547 That last one even found its way into Air Force facilities...
"She has her own TV, it's called an EKG..."
@@bobspinelli2847 wow that’s pathethic. The females knew they’d die hahahahah they joined but cried? What kind of stupid female logic is that?
Here's my story. I'm a combat wounded Airborne Ranger, Special Forces.
I was enlisted in Viet Nam, point man, infantry and LRRP teams for a year and a half.
I get a commission. I command a Special Forces A team for a year. I command an infantry company for 2 years. I get lucky and get to command a basic training company........I had BSd my Brigade Commander to leave me in command until I decided to leave it. After a year and a half of that command in a command and staff meeting my battalion commander tells me that I my company would be the first basic training company to fill with a platoon of females.
I looked at my commander and said "what time did you say the change of command was"?
He asked if I was serious and I told him that there was no way in hell that I was training women.
Praise God that I am long retired.
One needs to look at Quality Management principles, if you want to keep your level of quality high, you need to make sure all your inputs are of the same or higher quality.
The moment you start accepting defects into your process, the end result or product is of a lower quality. The threat is, as you lower your quality requirements the end product deteriorates until it is no longer fit for purpose.
The officers have been told by the politicians to do this, the military listens and executes, while carrying out the instructions, they perform a study as evidence that politicians suck at understanding quality outcomes. But it has to be done, not right for the new recruits.
“Recruit Training is harder then 10, 20 years ago….” Yeah, rightttttt CoLoNeL.
Right! This is only going to produce a weaker force.
@JoeDawg Colonel Palma lol. I met him when I was at MCRD. Thankfully i went long before the male-female integration
Not a chance. I joined in 2000. There’s no way it was tougher for me than for my dad in ‘68 or my grandfather in ‘43.
@@jtr2087 facts
THIS IS A FREAKIN JOKE. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLIMB THOSE HILLS IN FULL GEAR WITHOUT GETTING HANDED A BUNCH OF BREAKS.
I was a Marine platoon commander in Vietnam 1968-69. I don't believe a woman could have endured the amount of equipment, the mental and physical exhaustion, the extreme heat in the dry season and the constant rain during the monsoons. I don't believe they could have functioned effectively with lack of sleep, uniforms literally rotting off, filling sandbags, or the chaos of firefights.
I went through OCS and I don't believe the average woman who enlists in the Marines could have ever made to graduations. My OCS platoon started with 50 candidates and we graduated about 25. The 10 mile forced march though paths over hills in the boonies in the middle of a Virginia summer with full equipment was a ball buster.
The original reason women were allowed to serve in every service (until a couple of decades ago) was to free up men to serve in combat. Today, women, gays, and transgenders only cause more problems in combat just as people who want to serve have medical issues that would need special attention.
Combat is brutal, chaotic, and mentally and physically exhausting. Not an environment where additional problems are unnecessarily introduced.
I served 21 years in the Marines with a total of 3 years in combat. Combat is no place for distractions and additional problems.
Total respect Sir for your 21 years. I also served there in '68-'69. Did my 20 and got out. . . . (20 months, that is). Received an early out when we got back.
Today's Marine Corps is not the same. Hasn't been for some time from what I've seen in here. Semper Fi.
Men can get away with sweating and not being able to wash for a long time but its not a good idea for a woman to do that. It could lead to serious health implications for one. I needn't go into detail!
Thank you for your testimony
@@The_New_Abnormal_World_Order like what ??
@@atf8721 thin k about it. the stink comes from the inside
they need to edit back in those planes constantly taking off and landing in the background🤣
I can't believe the Marines are even trying this. In 1993 I trained in one of the first - and last - integrated Basic courses. It was such a disaster that they stopped doing it before my class graduated.
Meanwhile, China has adopted a policy called “Proposal on Preventing the Feminization of Male Adolescents”; it’s designed to cultivate masculinity in teen boys, who are described by a top Chinese political adviser as now being “delicate, cowardly and effeminate.”
Of course, at least China can still identify who the boys are. Too many of us are confused about that and whether “boy” is a real classification or just a personal-identity choice on a sex-status continuum.
I would advise you to look into WHY the CCP implemented masculinity classes. Regardless of sexuality and gender politics in America, we don’t nearly have the same problem as the CCP. American little boys are nothing like Chinese little boys. You’re looking at a minority of individuals that subscribe to gender/sex topics, and equating them to our country as a whole. Have some pride, man.
@COVID ISNEGLIGENT because they haven't taken over the South sea yet.once they do then they will come
China is a communist crap pit. Better dead than red x
China implementing masculinity is as futile as South Korea's college dating mandate - that didn't work either. The fact is globalism and female's lib has already destroyed gender norms and many species have a preference more towards the feminine rather than the masculine. The human species no longer needs to suffer and strive to make 21st century living possible.
Think about it: Who would YOU want to make love to? A pretty, soft, sweet smelling cute girl? Or a sweaty, greasy, grimey, smelly, dirty construction worker fresh off the job?
@@delanorrosey4730 "A pretty, soft, sweet smelling cute girl? Or a sweaty, greasy, grimey, smelly, dirty construction worker fresh off the job?", As a guy the answers is definitely no to the latter. But straight people of the male and female gender have different reasons for attraction. The truth is that that smelly, grimey construction worker is a pillar of the world. The people who are creating our pipelines, homes, buildings, installing our electrical systems are far more important than most of the manufactured social problems that have been invented to change the culture of the country- imo for worse. It's a loud minority, but the open mouths get fed: closed ones don't.
Is the construction worker deserving of love, or appreciation? Definitely - to say no or deny the fact that its because [at least in prior years] guys were at least ok with not being treated as delicate largely, that the personality/mindset/personality allowed them to create such a great infrastructure for the US. Most guys are on some level "simps" in a way. Father's call their daughter princess at an early age and imagine that if she is working she'll be working somewhere where the level of "physical" stress at least isn't very high. The shift in culture that says women should be in the positions that contradict the belief in a woman's 'delicateness' doesn't jive well with a lot of guys even if not everyone says it out loud. I say all of that say there are differences between men and women, and I think these progressive changes are changing things faster than even the idea of evolution at a biological level would even allow for.
Women do not need to replace men in the areas men excel in, and men do not need to replace women in the areas women excel in. To push for this high of intersectionality that "the science" doesn't allow for, just causes chaos
When I was on PI, we wound up in barracks on the rifle range next door to a female platoon. At night half the recruits in my squadbay were at the windows using their flashlights to signal back and forth with the females. Me at 21 telling my fellow recruits, "Did you come here to f*** or to fight?" You put them together and you are asking for trouble. When I went through, we didn't have women around close by to fight over, but still a lot of the guys were passing notes to the females on Sundays and everything else. Now you will have petty jealousies and rivalries, and dumbass boys peacocking for the chicks instead of focusing on keeping their crap together and TRAINING. The Chinese are going to eat our damned lunch. And we deserve it. Just the other day I saw a USMC colonel say that "Gender bias is the biggest challenge we face". Really? Well that's a relief, here I was thinking that our biggest challenge was defeating the People's Liberation Army. I went through in 1991. I have a good female friend who went through Parris Island about 20 years after I did. She has strong concerns over gender integration herself, including problems of socialization with men, and having male DI's in positions of authority over female recruits. Which opens up an entire can of worms of potential sexual abuse.
Couldn’t agree with you more !
If all are as one core then they should sign a commitment to being one ☝️
young people in basic still have raging hormones, it's very hard to control that, also you don't need any distractions in basic, having males and females train together brings this into play
@@CZcamsstolemylife Yeah, you just don't know how human nature operates in the REAL WORLD, do you? Take a bunch of healthy young late adolescent males and females, throw them into a strange, scary situation away from their folks for the first time for many of them, and they are going to f*** like bunny rabbits. And trust me. They will find a way to knock boots. When I went through, we didn't have Recruit Liberty on the Sunday before graduation. Our DI's told us that was ended because they were finding recruits having sex in dumpsters behind the Exchange. This is destruction of the US military in the name of bizarre, utopian, clueless ideas of how boys and girls act when they get together. These boys are looking to get laid with more singleness of purpose than Neil Armstrong had when he was landing on the Moon. And frankly, a lot of the female recruits are ready for it too. My female friend said she had a real strong need when she finally graduated. From my own experience, the female recruits graduating with us were eyeing us male recruits with the eyes of starving sharks on the night before we graduated.
@@quikstrike9899 real world I know but living in this woke Marxist society with adolescence generation x which can change there gender at will and make a mockery of all past generations then I will tell you about what’s happening in the real world. I totally agree people can be good but the rest are trying to tear society down 👍🏼
Went to boot camp in San diego in 99 right out of high school. For the last month of training you go to pendleton to do all your field stuff. You go to an area in there that's sectioned off just for recruit training. I don't remember ever really having any contact with fleet marines like you were asking.
I do remember on the bus ride the DIs made us look down. We couldn't even look out the windows. They told us to count rivets on the floor. 😆
My experience of mix training was in the 80's in operational units. Without making the physical side "flexible" no female soldiers would have completed any physical testing carrying equipment or of course other soldiers, just was not possible, allowances had to be made.
I couldn't take those 5' 100lb. girls seriously yelling and screaming at me, they just aren't tuff and intimidating. The military can make all the excuses they want but at the end of the day they're lowering their standards and therefore will have lower results. Let's look at the real world ramifications, if a 6'2 200lb. marine gets wounded in combat and can't walk, how are these little girls gonna carry him to safety?
They arent. Carrying a 200lbs guy on your back is tough even for a physically fit man of similar size. A 150lbs woman just isnt doing it nearly at the same capability as a guy.
@@rykehuss3435 you need to hit the gym if 200 lbs is too much imo
@@pyrrosdimas5798 Try carrying 200lbs on your back for half a mile while running. Tell me how hard it was. Make sure to put on all the gear you'd be carrying anyway.
Thats what evacuation can be. Its not just carrying some dude for 5 slow steps.
@@rykehuss3435 A 200 lbs human body on the back sure. I was talking about dragging a 200 lbs person
@@pyrrosdimas5798 I can squat only 100 and I’m a polee :(
As a Sgt in 2010 I would have sent back half of the Marines I received back to boot camp due to a lack of discipline and mentaltoughness. Maybe I had high standards but the every year since the boot Marines had gotten progressively worse.
High standards save lives in the long run. You did nothing wrong you likely would have saved lives by sending half of them back.
Mothers of America...
kids today don't get a lot of discipline probably, once they enter the service they get told NO for the first time in their lives I bet, I'm 66 and I can't believe the rules, discipline I had at home and in school, Boy Scouts- - I rode a bike, hiked in snow pulling a sled for miles, spent hours in the woods, etc. doing very physical things -- we had to create our own fun from limited resources, no one does that today
@@michaelsix9684 I had to do that and I’m a Gen z I wasn’t a Boy Scout but I played outside and my parents would tell me no
According to ppl leaving my shop told us that we were the last good boot drops they've had anything after that the newer joints were getting into lot of trouble all of them from disrespecting ncos, fraternizing hardcore, damaging trucks, lack discipline they get fat, I had that phase but a deployment opened my eyes and got out of that, and the worst forcing my command to make speeding tickets and njp able offense....Sad they still good people they just need to be taught better.
At PI I had a WM Drill Instructor. bitch me out while in the butts. My DI was standing there watching . I had all I could do to keep from laughing... When she walked away, my DI stepped in and said why didn't I laugh in her face. My answer was DISAPLINE SIR.....
We had guys in bootcamp for the Navy back in the 80s, but the women were in their own barracks and trained different from the men who were in their own barracks. The Waco screaming like a beagle dog on a rabbit hunt was stupid.
I was an Engineer in the British Royal Air Force and on deployment with a Nimrod (large 4 engine) aircraft. The engineering deployment consisted of me (Avionics), an Engine and an Airframe engineer. Between the three of us there was supposedly nothing on that aircraft we couldn't fix. One day the aircraft blew a main wheel on landing which obviously had to be replaced. Turns out the female Sgt Airframe Engineer was not only incapable of handling the wheel, she couldn't even lift the vary large torque wrench needed for the nuts. End result - me and the other guy had to do her job for her after completing our own duties. She was on exactly the same pay as every other Sgt of her trade in the RAF and, what's really galling, somewhere out in the wider RAF there was a perfectly capable Cpl who never got promoted because she took the slot.
Same in the Army as far back as 1981. Same pay but can not do all the physical requirements so Johnny on the spot always there to help, and then they get all the cushy postings and promoted just to show how successful their introduction was.
I grew up with WW2 combat marines who fought from Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands, Iwo Jima to Okinawa. Several were involved in Korea at the frozen Chosin reservoir. God bless the marines justam glad they aren’t around to see what this nation and it’s silliness has done to their beloved Corp, it’s sickens my heart.
Lol watching full metal jacket as a kid I never thought this is what the military wouls turn into
Honestly the DI Instructor at the Start Screaming her head off, She sounded Like she was having a Phycological Breakdown, Her Voice was like she was Hysterical
The best way to cripple a winning basketball team is by forcing them to play a team member who is slow and can't shoot or dribble. The same thing is being done to our military why can't people see this.
Exactly
I graduated from "Third Herd" Paris Island 1995. I can tell you without a doubt, this generation is soft, both mentally and physically. It saddens me to see such a tough fighting force being turned into the crap they have today.
No accident. PI 1985
P.I. 1st.battalion….1991-1992 , totally remember drill instructors warn about those nasties of fourth battalion and Christ could save you if you were caught even eyeballing WMs at any distance.
No, it’s not the generation that is soft, you have to go the root of the problem, it is a result of a “certain group of people” that control the banking systems and the media of “western nations” (aka zionists/sabbateans) with an agenda to make the newer generations soft and literally fags to subvert a nation from within. It happened to the Russian Empire, later turned to the Soviet Union from the Bolshevik “revolutionaries” (zionist revolutionaries from New York) and later Germany (although Germany was controlled opposition by hitler, a self proclaimed zionist) hitler sent most the German Jews to Palestine in the early 30s from an agreement with the zionist world council. America was who they sought after the most, and they absolutely did get them. We see it come to fruition as we speak, and it’s more than the KGB could have ever imagined.
OMG! The Marines are looking like Sailors🤣🤣🤣
2:21 What was the squaking chicken saying?
I would’ve laughed so hard… then got smoked. And probably would be smoked daily
My military experience started with an integrated (boys/girls) boot camp division. Then went to school and serve in a male only environment (so i saw first hand, the disjuncture). Night and Day. In boot camp the woman caused drama, broke rules-stupid rules, (using make-up), Cried-sometimes about nothing. Create a second set of graded times for the PT, most of which barley passed the female minimum (which was a joke-not fitting to a warrior standard). And flirted and created distractions to other recruits (spread diseases). I look back and think they were there just to make boot camp more miserable for us.
But the lead female DI was mean and horrible. She was a "religious specialist" by MOS.
PS Screw Black Rifle Coffee Company
Why screw BRC?
@@jackvalentine7403 Too woke for my taste
@@jackvalentine7403 they didint support Kyle
@@FS-ux5tx doesn't make em "too woke". Means they have shareholders to think of.
@@jackvalentine7403 in other words, they are grifters
As a Vietnam vet I can't imagine women serving in the conditions I served in. When shells explode next to you and you feel as tough as wet toilet paper. Food is a sip of water, a dry cracker and a smoke. When you are eye to barrel with the enemy whose war face is most scary. And I was in the not so proud Army and not a Marine.
God bless you sir and thank you for your service. My grandfather was also in the army, a radio telephone operator sp4 in the 25th infantry division 1968 to 1969 in Vietnam.
He passed in 2012 due to illnesses that he got from agent Orange. Miss him everyday...was basically my dad.
RIP
I respected the female DS but I was pretty fearful of my male DS.He walked around with a torn up backpack that saved his life from an IED. My female DS had a Nemo tattoo.
As a old guy, this is sad ...My Marine Corps is done
I wonder how these integrated units would have done on Guadalcanal , Chosin or Vietnam? That's the REAL question, isn't it?
They would have gotten wiped out.
Big time
I guess you'll never know, because it was never done. Again, fear of the unknown.
@@HacksignKT slaughtered.
As long as we can get our enemies to lower their standards and give us "time outs" we'll be fine.
They aren't doing it because it's better, they are doing it because it's woke.
That meet and greet d.i. sounded like a chicken and THEN walked like one 🤣
My Sargent in basic was something like 5'4 or 5'3 and he was more intimidating by leagues.
I also almost had to laugh :) I think you're right... its not gonna be a better result
I remember when my cousin graduated Marine boot camp in San Diego back in the late 80s. He looked like he was made out of leather at graduation. The whole class looked really badass and a force to be reckoned with. I'm not seeing that here.
Looks are very superficial. The marines are a 3rd rate copy of the Royal Marines no matter how 'badass' they look.
@@truckerfromreno Insecure much?
@@norwegianblue2017 ...
@@truckerfromreno you must be a sad little man who’s unhealthy with his unwise choices judging other man like that. Go judge the females who thought they could handle war until a bullet flew
Past in between their legs and realized they should go back because if they get pregnant and for being female they get to go back to safety lol.
@@WhiteWolf-Militaria nah it’s hard crass toughen callous and bone leather skin!
Look I’m just going to say it as someone who has lead people in the military. When you take a group of guys the second you introduce a female into the picture the atmosphere, the teamwork, and the overall cohesion INSTANTLY changes. It goes from working together with your brothers to get the job done, into trying to out do one another and impress the female. I don’t care if the dude is married or the female is or bla bla bla I’ve seen it happen every time.
Yes, and how.
Correct
My unit got a female DI for a very short period of time, she was a joke. She was an E-6 and could not figure out her LBE one day when we were heading out for BRM. Morning PT she could not keep up and when we did the obstacle course, she couldn't even do that.
Fort Leonard wood Boot Camp Bravo-5-10 2 platoon. I recall we did 2-3 days in the tents in 1995. Experience was supposed to emulate field experience...within 2 days transport had to bring ladie back for showers...hygiene became a major issue..wet wipes doesn't work well during *that* time of the month.
Life isn’t fair. Once I saw a female Soldier ‘keep up with the boys’ on a road march. Once. It was WLC (‘new’ version of PLDC) and the rest of the field time she was hobbled over for doing it.
We are built different and should be tasked to support the roles we’re best suited for. No one with a brain had a problem with the way things were.
No one talks about the study where females suffer extremely high rates of injury trying to "keep up with the boys" many of them for life. I'm glad I'm out. I look back on my days with the boys with fondness and am glad I went out on a high note.
"We've had no issues". Same thing they said about females in Ranger school and the truth came out they lowered the standards, gave them extra chances where a man would have been dropped, etc.
My two cents worth, PI graduate had a WM DI yell at me on the rifle range and literally got IT'D by my DI and two other male DI's because I literally ignored and laughed at her and mind you back then they did not wear the Campaign cover so it was even more humorous too me. One thing I believe was this putting MM and WM's together was a terrible idea, their standards are not the same, some change is not good.
5:46 that marching was dope tho