Upgrading the Beast: Kaleidescape Video Review
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2021
- A lot to talk bout in this review of the Kaleidescape Strato S system. Everything from User Interface Navigation to Scene Creation to Comparisons between Ripped 4k Discs and Streaming Services.
Review system:
Kaleidescape Strato -- Lumagen Radiance Pro 5348 -- JVC RS3000
Leave your comments below and I'll be sure to respond. - Věda a technologie
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This system is life-changing! Kudos to you @Brolic Media AKA hubby! I am immensely proud of you!
Hey Hey! Thanks so much, my love. thank YOU for supporting me in finishing this theater a few years ago when things got too expensive and I seriously considered cancelling the build altogether! Your encouragement is why we have this great theater to enjoy today!
@@BrolicBeast Bruh, is your wife single? I need a wife who will allow me to do what you did.
😂🤣
So Cute!!!🙏🏾👊🏽😊👊🏽🙏🏾
@@kevonmanuel hahah nah she's veryyyyy much taken! Man, my wife had a large movie collection before we met. She's been in on this hobby from our courtship days! I am sooo blessed!
@@BrolicBeast That's awesome. When you and your spouse share the same interests, it makes what you are doing more worthwhile.
One question I have to ask. When you walk or drive past a commercial theater, do you break out in laughter and smirk?😁
Good stuff, I hadn't seen a full end-to-end review like this before, and it was super helpful.
Veryyyyy much appreciated! Glad it was helpful, my man!
Thanks for sharing your setup, it's awesome!! I love watching Kaleidescape videos, the UI is so slick. I just wish more owners shared videos like this. Keep up the great work!!
You're very, very welcome, Danny! I really enjoy making these videos.
Great to see you back buddy 👍 fantastic video.. Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts with us and keep up the great work 🙏
Thanks, man! Def appreciate that. I’m looking forward to your next video!
I just happened to come across your channel as I was looking for kaleidescope. Holy cow it's amazing! I happened to be in a wheelchair due to a terrible accident many years ago. I was supposed to be drafted via baseball but my injury changed all that. I was only 17yrs old but even at that time my Dad and I were thinking of buying a big screen which consisted of red, green and blue crts. Lol
Since then I've been through all the formats going all the way back to laserdiscs..
I'm 55 now and in the middle of switching out my old home theater. I recently refinanced and I'm selling my Sony vpl-55es projector, 120 inch vutec screen as well as my Denon x4200w AVR receiver.
I'm getting a 130 inch screen and the JVC nz7 laser projector. I'm going with the Marantz sr8015 to power my Klipsch premier 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos speakers.
I only need the 6 terabyte but it's the expense. They just had the strato-s with built in 6 terabytes and got rid of it in favor of the strato-c with the terra servers.
I really envy you and I'm trying to find a deal somewhere.. 😀.
You put out an excellent video to show just how good kaleidescope is!
You really know your stuff going back to ripping movies etc.. I just buy the 4k HDR movies but kaleidescope would change all that for me...
Great video and let me know if you see any deals out there.. lol
Nick
Ps. Have a blessed day
My studiotek 130 G4 is on the way! Can't wait to boot up my nx5 and wrap up my theater and starting enjoying. Media content and organization will be the next rabbit hole.
Wooo hoooo, that’s a great combo right there. NX5 and ST130 G4.....you’re in for a genuine treat!!!
I wish I could afford a Kaleidescape. The movies are so expensive too. But the quality is undeniable. Better than 4K discs IMHO.
I agree with you! The quality is definitely superior!
The movies r not expensive.
In my opinion the quality is similar to a 4k disc movie but it really depends on the quality of the transfer.
Your system is seriously amazing
Def appreciate that!
Amazing man! Truly the future
Oh for sure.. Def the future of content delivery!!! Thank you!
I went to my local audio store in Atlanta to purchase cables for my music room. While I was there, I walked into the home theater room. My salesman knew I had a home theater in my previous home. He asked me if I was familiar with Kaleidescape? Somewhat I said. He showed me a preview. The color texture, detail, and sound were jaw-dropping.
Yup! Precisely! That's the effect Kaleidescape has :-)
Love the video man!
Much appreciated, man! Hoping to achieve HTF/JDM World level one day! BTW-I just finished listening to the Spare Change/JDM World podcast episode this morning (I think it was recorded last year)-that was a great listen. Still getting “JDM” vehicle questions? Lol.
@@BrolicBeast I can never shake the old JDM World car association stuff :-) That was one of my first livestreams... that brings back the memories. Thanks for the kind words!
Great video, as usual! :) Happy Easter!
Thank you, and same to you!
I am a Kaleidescape user and love it! Started with a 12TB Strato S in 2019 and have just recently added a Terra Server for my ever-expanding movie collection. A few comments. First, great video! Nice to see some new Kaleidescape users on board. Secondly, thank you for the helpful hints & tips, especially about compiling favorite scenes. Will definitely add this category to my collection. And finally, a comment on price. Yes, this is a luxury product and I agree it will not be for everyone. But it is hands down THE BEST movie-watching experience out there! You really do have to see it in person to get the full experience. Screenshot comparisons do help, but I would recommend contacting a dealer and seeing it for yourself. You will be hooked! But I understand, for most folks, it will be a little bit like driving a Ferrari for the first time. You will see and experience the difference between that and what you are currently driving but will be hard-pressed to go out and buy one. But for me, just do it, you'll never regret it 🎬🍿😍
I totally totally toootally agree with everything in this comment!
@@BrolicBeast Thanks. My HT guy has been talking about Kaleidescape for years. So happy I finally did it :)
@@PatekGirl It’s one of those things that sometimes needs convincing for those of us who aren’t swimming in Olympic-sized pools filled with cash. But it’s soooo worth the sacrifice!!!
really good video bro. Im glad you showed quality differences!
Much appreciated, bro!! Yeah man, the superior quality was a huge factor. Def wanted to get that across to viewers!
Great demonstration and talking points. I am still on the fence on whether it has the full value because for me this would be considered an end game piece for the latest iteration of my theater.
Much appreciated, man. Def endgame stuff...no more discs!
Welcome back! I got 2 and 3 wrong....great review.
Thank you very much! Glad you guessed!
Congrats man. Getting this has been a dream of mine ever since I first saw this system over 10 years or more. Unfortunately the cost is a bit above my pay grade and getting more so especially with price increasing more and more on everything these day.
Hey man, the pricing might surprise you. Is a 6 TB version out now that's relatively inexpensive compared to what k-scape systems used to cost.
@@BrolicBeast Thank you. 🤔 Very interesting to know. When you say relatively inexpensive what are we talking here though?
Whaaaat Brolic Media is uploading again. Must be some new toys to talk about. Hope the fam is doing well
🤣🤣 new toys bring the joy every time!! Fan is doing well for sure...thank you!!
Sick system bro.... mad respect.... 💪🏾
Thank a bunch!!!!
Awesome video I can’t afford it but I do understand all the reasons u underlined I run a Plex server and it’s been great for me and it’s great to see how close it is in performance
I def hear you...After Kaleidescape, Plex is still the GOAT IMO.
Damn...Brolic this is the icing on the cake 4sure! Its been a long journey and its time to enjoy, congrats on your accomplishments, that kaleidescape is something else, I will have to stick to physical media and standing up for the OPPO though 🤣🤣
"I luv it when a plan comes together"
(throwback quote) 4 us grown folks😉
Lol no doubt! I loved my Oppo, but sold it years ago!
Awesome dude!!!
Thanks, man!!
I cannot justify getting that set up as I have a 1080p projector at the moment and love it in my home theatre.
When ever I upgrade to 4k or 8k laser projector down the line I will probably then get it.
If you're running with 1080p, you could go with a six terabyte strato setup, but you could also try to find an alto or even a Cinema One on ebay.
3rd in the building love the vids bro
That you very much! With the studio up and running, I'll be making more and more videos.
@@BrolicBeast that’s awesome your my fav CZcams I’ve always came back to even watch older videos really appreciate what u bring to the home theater community
Nice channel I just came across it. Your system is similar to mine. I just added a Strato S 12TB like a week ago. I see you have the new new Lumagen though. I only have a 4444 right now.
Though my setup is a RS3000, Stewart Studiotek 130 G4 2.35:1 130” screen, Paladin DCR, Lumagen, Strato S 12TB, Lyngdorf MP-60, Savoy G4 amps, paradigm prestige etc etc. nice to see other systems similar to mine.
Hey your system sounds sick! Thanks for stopping by the channel and checking out the video. I also get excited when I come across folks who have similar equipment!
@@BrolicBeast oh for sure. I subbed as well. The one thing I can say about the Kaleidescape is I only wish I got one sooner. Working out a way to do some cataloging now. It was definitely time to get one though. After a interstate move and packing and moving all my media I was done. The price of admission is high but it’s pretty worth it for me. Definitely have to factor in time and convenience to see if the price is worth it but it’s seriously worth a look.
I honestly think that if more people had access to demo on they would sale more units. People know about them but until someone actually sees and and gets hands on time it’s hard to explain how nice they are.
@@sammie_prescott How's it going... Glad to hear you're enjoying your new setup. We should chat about doing a testimonial video if you're interested. brett.bjorkquist@kaleidescape.com
@@brettbjorkquist6502 Hey Brett I would possibly be interested in doing that. I'll reach out to you shortly
Great video. I bought the 6tb strato s last summer and love everything about the Kaleidescape.pic and sound as you stated are outstanding and is superior to streaming and disc. I bought a few movies on the kaleidescape that I on 4K disc and most of the time the pic and sound on the kaleidescape is superior. They are expensive but well worth the price. If I had to do it all over again I would still get one. Awesome product.
I agree with everything you wrote! It's a real step up to everything else!
Hey Earle, Brett from Kaleidescape. Just wanted to thank you for the kind words and purchase, and see if you wanted to share a bit more about your system. You can put it here, or reach out to me at brett.bjorkquist@kaleidescape.com
Hi Brett,
Thanks for reaching out. My system comprises of a 9.2 setup of all electrostatic speakers from Martin Logan using four SVS SB16 ultra subs handling LFE duties. I’m also using eight subs from Martin Logan and Mirage to augment my speakers which I crossover at 40hz to my main subs. My pre/pro is a McIntosh Mx122 and for amplification I’m using a McIntosh MC8207 rated at 7x200 watts per channel into 4 or 8 ohm, B&K components reference 200.3 rated at 3x220 watts per channel into ohms. In addition to the strato s, I’m using an OPPO UDP205 and Apple TV. For music I’m using a VPI Prime turntable with a Parasound JC3+ phonostage, a Chord Hugo DAC for hi-res streaming. For power conditioning I’m using two Panamax M5400-pm and to keep my process and amps cool I’m running three Ac Infiniti T8 fans. For automation I’m using a Harmony Elite(RIP) and an Amazon Echo for voice control. My display is a 75 inch Sony 4k HDR tv. Thanks again for showing an interest in my setup. Let me know if you have any other questions or comments.
@@brettbjorkquist6502 his Brett just posted a response with my system setup
I have a question for any of you that use the system when you want to watch a downloaded movie do you still need to have a constant internet connection.
Any colour banding, eg. ocean underwater scenes, sunrises _ sunsets ?
Zappidi an option for the price consious?
Nice production value
Thank you!!! I've been in the lab working hard!!!
Make sure when you put up the DCR lens you can do a before and after to really capture what it can do. Would love to see it side by side or however you editing could allow.
I most certainly will be doing an A/B comparison!!
Congrats man.
It's funny, in 2021 one would think you should be able to this with open-sourced software on the PC with ease and for free.
Kodi with the right skin is the closest, running on the right hardware. Not too reliable though.
@@sparkerb2631 That's the problem with HTPC's, reliability. In my 20s and 30s, spending tons of time and energy trying to get things to work correctly was somewhat fun. But now, I don't want all the headaches.
DIY is neither easy nor free. If you want to store a lot of movies at home as rips, you're buying a hefty Synology and drives to fill it. You can get away cheaper with playback devices, but that storage costs. Set up is not really easy either from general set up to ripping to playback. It takes a significant amount of time and effort. Kaleidescape is perfect for someone wanting to get out of that scene (like I did) or avoid it altogether with simplicity and many feature benefits.
I'm just like you bro. I've tried to create the Kaleidescape experience for years. I need to pull the trigger. I should have purchased it before the tariffs price increase
Hey def pulling the trigger is a good idea. I finally took the plunge because I just got tired of chasing the goal of “close enough.” I intentionally left this out of the video, but if you do plan to get one, let me know. I have the right agreements and partnerships in place through my business to offer this for a special price for those who are purchasing as a result of CZcams.
@@BrolicBeast You got my attention
@@avtechman77 cool... shoot me a quick email to matt@brolicmedia.com and I'll be sure to respond with more info.
Question: Does the Kaleidescape system do any HDR Tone Mapping for projector users or do you need a Lumagen (as an example) to do that? Thanks Brolic... great to see you posting more videos.
I don’t think they do tone mapping, but in all honesty-I never checked since the Lumagen or newer projectors can do it. Yeah, I plan on posting many more videos as time passes! Getting committed to generating more content...i love the process! I’ll look into this and post back here....i think that’s a few interesting question. Thank you for asking.
They have powerful options to control video and audio output, but no tone mapping. It's not really necessary in the source device as many people may use a Lumagen and new projects and flat panels do it natively. I use my Kaleidescape with a JVC NX7 with the tone mapping features. It's awesome.
Is there a break on the price of movies for the Stratos S if we already own the movie? I have a ton of movies in blu-ray and 4K and hate to have to totally start over again.
Absolutely....there's a disc-to-digital program. It takes a few steps to execute, but worth it.
Two questions :
1) what app/wrapper are you using on your phone to control your setup overall, switch between Kaleidescape/Plex/others?
2) have you been able to download any movies in greater than blu ray quality? This to me would be the best selling feature of the Kaleidescape.
Control4 what I use for control.
Stunning Young Man!!!🙏🏾👊🏽👊🏽🙏🏾
Could You Kindly Do a Update of The Home Theater and audio Rack, Please!!!
Thank You 🙏🏾👊🏽😉👊🏽🙏🏾
Thanks so much! Oh for sure-I think I’ll be doing that for my NEXT video!!! It’s been a couple of years since I did a full theater tour.
@@BrolicBeast
Splendid Sir. Thank You.
Let me complement You with your patience in accomplishing your Goals in life and The Family. One Love, Sir.🙏🏾👊🏽👊🏽😉👊🏽🙏🏾
DId you get the 6TB or 12tb version? Or upgraded to a Terra? Better than owning a panamorph?
Got the 12TB with plans for the 18TB Terra in the near future.
It's' pretty close between this and a Panamorph. Screen size and correlated brightness needed would be the deciding factor.
Great video ! I think I need the Strato ! My M700 vault took a dump. It won’t eject discs. 😢
Hey man, thank you! The Strato is definitely the way to go. I'm a dealer (I have a video announcing this in the works - company website is www.BlairHPS.com and I carry everythiing from Kscape to Panamorph to Trinnov) - email me at matt@BlairHPS.com and I'll take care of you with the Social Media kaleidescape discount. There's some good news from Kaleidescape coming tomorrow as well :-)
Price is definitely a deal breaker for most but I've never heard an owner complain about the actual system itself. What is the sound quality and audio support like. Such as atmos or dtsX. Thanks
Atmos and DTS:X is supported through tons of titles from all the studios now. It's lossless quality.
Great info! I thought about it but just couldn’t justify it. I have over 1750 movies purchased on iTunes movies. And while I know the compressed quality isn’t as good as the Kaleidscape, there are so many other conveniences that comes with disc/video copy ecosphere. But if you are the person buying disc and putting them on a HTPC this seems like a no brainer if your system is at that level.
Hey, yeah I totally hear you-it’s hard to move away from something with such a significant investment. Kaleidescape certainly isn’t for everyone, but you could do the same thing I’m doing to access my older movies: use both simultaneously. We already have to access multiple services to view some content (i.e. Disney Plus for Mandalorian, Netflix for their proprietary content, Hulu for TV. So one more source fits right in. For my, it’s Plex for my older movies. For you, it could be iTunes for older movies, with all new movies bought via Kaleidescape.
@@BrolicBeast I’ve thought about that as well but then stuck with movies accessible only from the Kaleidscape. One of the main reasons I buy disc is that for that price I get a digital copy as well. For me most movies aren’t worth 35 dollars, but if I’m going to get a blu ray copy and a digital then I might swallow that price and even then unless you are buying the Steelbook copy they won’t cost that much. Decisions, decisions. Lol
You could always consider an option for yourself where the bulk of your movie library is with Apple, but you also maintain key and favorite titles on Kaleidescape. Use the Kaleidescape for the titles you really care about and would really demand the extra quality when watching in the proper environment and leverage iTunes/Apple/Apple TV for everything else.
Very jealous of the scripts, I wish Plex would do that. Only thing would be volume normalization, or like some way to remind me where to set the volume on each demo (since sometimes there is a big change in volume between recordings/movies). Storage wouldn't be enough for my current collection of remuxes, but I imagine you can expand that with a NAS pretty easily?
You know, I should test that out! Since kaleidescape processes every single movie file, I should look into whether or not they level the volumes. It would certainly make sense for them to do that but I wonder if they do. I'll look into this and report back here.
Will they ever add Dolby Vision to the device?
Not with this generation, but the majority of customers don't need it because they use the video processors like lumagens with dynamic tone mapping. Many also use televisions and projectors with dynamic tone mapping features as well. Dolby Vision at its heart is dynamic tone mapping.
Nice review. If they offered the option to aquire your existing media at a good discount then I might be tempted 🤔. Having to purchase the media again is hard to do. Having said that, I guess buying new media is where you're starting. A few years from now plex will be for legacy movies.
What was the total cost?
Yup, exactly....Plex will be the platform for playing back of legacy discs. I would neeeeeever re-purchase all the movies I own....only the ones I KNOW I’ll be revisiting (like Gladiator or Hans Zimmer: Live in Prague). Thanks for the kind words on the review, also :-) .
Oh, BTW-total cost is top secret, but PM me on Instagram (@brolic.media) and I can share more of a realistic ballpark.
Since you are "Master Tinkerer" in the HT world, I'd say this system is perfect for you.
Lol man, tinkering takes too much time these days. I have a total of about 4 hours of free time per week (I wish I was joking) and that's one of the reasons I got the Kaleidescape... I need to be able to have a movie ready so I can just sit down and press play.
Is it worth worth paying 4k instead of the traditional 4k disc player? Is it a 4k dollar difference?
The difference is muuuuch more than $4k at MSRP (although I got mine for much less)! MSRP is around $8k for the 12TB
You have to decide that for yourself if you want the benefits of the system and the platform and the device cost fits in your budget and is in line with system/room/environment where you would be using it. I love mine.
Fantastic video bro! Extremely fair and I love the platform and I hope they manage to bring the price down buy 1.5K and im all over it!
Glad you enjoyed the video!!! Man, I don’t know how they could get to 1.5k. I mean, all in one streaming boxes like Zappiti can cost around that and offer much less. These guys have the store, offer processing of each movie, have licensing fees. I don’t think they’ll ever hit $1.5k man. Maybeeee $4 or $5K with a super “lite” version..maybe 3Tb hard drive to hold 50 4K movies?
@@BrolicBeast I mean 1.5k cheaper than current MSRP.
@@biggdoggg372 Ohh, I see...you meant “by” 1.5k! gotcha. you wrote “buy 1.5k” so I read that as “buy at 1.5k” Oh yeah, if they brought the price down by $1.5k i think they’d sell out left and right! I’m hoping they do, so I can add more storage. lolol.
Great video with a good review of the system. Would it be possible to do one like this without the music? I find the music distracts from your voice and makes it difficult to focus on what you are saying.
Hey there! I'm not able do it here for this specific video, but I am keeping music at low volumes recently.
Really nice video but you didn't really hit on how it differs from Plex? Sounds like you got tired of the process of getting content to plex and preferred a more streamlined solution? Is that the biggest difference.
I had thoughts of switching over but I'm just not a fan of their ecosystem. I like to be able to seamlessly watch from my phone, firesticks in each room or portable firestick in a hotel etc. Add various types of content too (not just movies) I also am big on quality and without Dolby vision and HDR10+ support what exactly are you paying for in quality upgrade? 10 more Mbps than a UHD? Appreciate the feedback but I'm like you before you jumped. I don't see the value in this just yet, and it's very little effort for me to function with plex currently.
Thanks
?? I actually focused on the many ways it differs from Plex by highlighting the features not found in options I’ve used before. User interface and content delivery via store, as well as the ability to create scenes in the interface versus having to manually make them in a separate program which is what I did with Plex. I hit several other differentiating factors as well. On the subject of Dolby VIsion, it’s no longer a major factor thanks to Dynamic Tone Mapping-especially on the Lumagen Radiance Pro that pioneered the process for video processors. Since then, blu ray players and projectors have taken on their own flavors DTM functionality, but the DTM in the Lumagen is second to none. There are no Dolby Vision enabled projectors though, so even if I didn’t have access to world class Dynamic Tone Mapping, Dolby Vision still wouldn’t be a factor for me and anyone else using a projector.
I totally hear you on Using Plex....I used JRiver for 6 years, and Plex for 4 years....they’re great solutions, but they didn’t offer me things that increased in value to me as time passed: convenience of an online store, better user interface, and superior quality. The quality goes far beyond mbps/second-there is more data (larger files not compressed to fit onto a disc), which results in better quality video and audio for some titles (not all). I don’ t watch aaaaanything on my phone at all except CZcams, but if that’s part of how you consume your content then cool. That’s why I repeated in the video a couple times that this is a very personal choice!
@Brolic Media Definitely agree it comes down to a personal preference. I was just googling and read "mbps/ bitrate was the most important factor in determining the video file size".
I can watch movies in Dolby vision on my LG CX via plex, For me it's definitely a noticable difference in the color gamut/Range, HDR pop than my 4K projector (no comparison). I just think for the money required for Kscape they should be the main ones supporting these technologies as nothing is stopping a Kscape owner form owning an OLED tv. It's cool that Projector manufacturers are able to compensate with newer technologies being made available. I'm unsure if I'd be able to take advantage of that without spending more money. For the amount of money required for this system they should offer support so I can watch Dolby vision on Mars! Lol
I don't watch Plex from my phone a lot but I do like the flexibility to be able to watch from anywhere anytime (including offline by downloading content locally). It took me 2 minutes, zero dollars to enable Plex on my firesticks. My point about the ecosystem was to point out the flexibility available. The ability to share content, view others people's libraries and direct play lossless av inside and outside of your house is huge in Plex. just a totally different system. Plex = all media types made widely available, easily sharable.
As you likely already know the plex community is littered with people who host / share thousands and thousands of pieces of pirated content. This is the biggest power struggle Kscape owners are fighting against when the conversation begins with plex owners. Most Plex people won't come out and say it but that's what it is (imo), from what I've observed. It's like polar opposites of what's going on with Kscape & their users.
I do think it's cool you have the ability to download content at a cost directly to your server. I've used 4k-hd.club before to do the same thing with my NAS
Missed your videos!!! Do they ever run sales on the movies? How soon is a new release out? Maybe be difficult to compare since we are in COVID. For example, is the latest Godzilla vs. Kong out? Would loved to have seen the difference between the physical disc in your oppo (thought i remembered you had the 205) vs. Kladiscape. I think one concern i would have... the cost of the movie is the same as physical media.. lets say they go out of business or something happens to them in general.. what about all the movies you bought? Let’s say many movies later, you start running low on space... I would assume you could remove the movie from your local storage & always re-download it??? Did you consider Zappitti? Could address some of the time concerns. They definitely need DV. We need a gym update video...;o)...
Hey man, I had a bunch of those subjects covered in recorded video, but I had to cut it due to length. Might do a part 2.
@@BrolicBeast Bro CZcams is the new TV, don't be afraid of the 20min+ vids lol
Kaleidescape runs regular price reductions and big sales every now and again. Titles usually get marked down to $9.99 - $14.99. Go to their store site and look under Collections and then Special Pricing. Regarding company stability, Kaleidescape just passed their 20th anniversary.
I picked wrong twice on the comparison of 3.
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Thank you!!!
Boy if you don't tell your barber to shave them damn hairs growing out your nose!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahahaha so I usually trim them....I said I myself "SOMEONES GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT THEM!!!" Genetics are strong...my dad has to shave his too.
Only a sucker will buy this. This is called defending your purchase knowing you wasted money.
Broke jealous hater says what!?!?!😂😅
It’s actually called he has more money than you… lol.
Background music is annoying.Can't focus of what you're saying.