BIKE BUILD - KTM 790/890 ADVENTURE - ROTTWEILER PERFORMANCE
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- In this Episode, we take a deep dive into our KTM 790/890 ADV Race Bike Build. Most parts we cover are listed and linked to our website below:
FUEL AND AIR
· Rottweiler 790/890 Intake system - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· New fuel tank. This is currently a prototype - Coming Soon
· PCV - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Auto Tune set up to build an economy map - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· POD 300 data logger - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Tekmo Titanium exhaust - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Titanium O2 plugs - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
NAVIGATION
· Rebel X - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Replaced with all KTM style bolts - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
BRAKES
· Single sided brake system STAGE 2 - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· BREMBO 15mm RCS master cylinder - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· M50 Caliper - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Galfer Rotors - www.rottweilerperformance.com... and www.rottweilerperformance.com...
CONTROLS
· Transaver - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Clean Speed brake pedal - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Factory hand guards - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· IMS foot pegs for strength - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
TRIPLE CLAMP
· Coming Soon!
DRIVETRAIN
· DID ZVMX chain - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Dirt Tricks sprockets - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
DIET PARTS
· Antigravity battery -
· SS front brakes - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Muffler - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Decat - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· All rack and handle stuff - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
ENGINE
· Rekluse Torque drive - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Factory Pro shift kit - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
PROTECTION
· Rottweiler RMCG - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· AXP skid plate - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Fuel pump guard - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Fuel pump spigot - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Filtered fuel line - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Samco hoses - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
TIRES WHEELS
· Dubya wheels
· 2.5 rear (roughly 2 lbs less) - - www.rottweilerperformance.com... (custom options)
· 1.85 front - - www.rottweilerperformance.com... (custom options)
· Dunlop 908 rear - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Bridgestone Ultra HD tubes - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
· Golden Tire front
· Front mousse with tubeless insert combined - www.rottweilerperformance.com...
0:00 (INTRO)
0:10 (790/890 BIKE BUILD SIZZLE)
0:39 (INDEX OF CATEGORIES)
1:06 (FUEL & AIR)
5:42 (NAVIGATION)
9:09 (BRAKES)
12:55 (CONTROLS)
15:00 (TRIPLE CLAMPS)
17:23 (FRAME)
18:37 (DRIVETRAIN)
19:17 (DIET PARTS)
20:01 (ELECTRICAL)
22:34 (ENGINE)
23:37 (PROTECTION)
27:42 (SUSPENSION)
28:25 (WHEELS & TIRES)
33:50 (OUTTRO)
34:18 (ARE YOU STILL HERE) - Auta a dopravní prostředky
A new 890 owner here with a motocross background. This video told me more about my new bike than anything else out there. You guys are awesome. I managed to collect a pretty good shopping cart along the way. Thanks!
Welcome aboard! And thanks for the support and kind words. Enjoy your new bike!
How much weight did y'all shave off in total?
That tank looks interesting.
gonna do some more lotto numbers
What's the wet weight of this bike, fuel front and back? Just curious!
Great attention to detail. I love your thinking re. fooling the ABS by installing the rear sensor at the front! Brilliant! I'm also very interested in the tank 👍🏼
Took that hit from the skid plate like a champ! Wishing Chris a speedy recovery.
iM ACTUallY DoIng jUST Fine TheZZe DAyS. THAnkS 4 AskING! CouPLE oF stICheS anD GOOd 2 gO!
Outstanding video, thx Chris & Rottweiler Performance 👍🏻✊🏻💨🚀
I can vouch for the aluminum billet fuel pump protector and spigot. Yes, I was left stranded in the woods. Once I got towed out (thanks DCTFAN), the folks at Rottweiler Performance had the billet kit in my east coast mailbox by noon the next day. Sturdy, effective and easy to install. 12,500 miles of TAT & BDR later, no issues. Buy one.
Awesome story! Well, at least the 'in your mailbox' part. Sorry about the fuel pump incident but glad you can ride with confidence now!
Great job Chris
Thanks for all you do.
See you in Baja.
Amazing bike and set up..
Excellent build and video - When my 990 is clapped out, I'll be calling!
We have good stuff for your 990 too!
I've got a few Rottweiler Performance components on my 790 and am impressed with the quality and craftsmanship. The Pro Edition Full Intake System is on my list next. Thanks for this comprehensive video on all the options, very helpful.
We love to hear that! And thank you for watching. Glad to hear you found this video useful!
That fuel tank looks brilliant !!👏
More bikes should have that
Thank you! We are hoping to have them available soon. We are very proud of the final product and can't wait to get them to customers.
For the rear wheel, try the NoMousse system ;) We are all using it on our light enduro bikes and there is nothing better! We tried everything (Heavy Duty tubes, mousse, tubliss etc..) There is nothing like the NoMousse! You can finish a race even with a completely torn tyre! Seriously, try it ;)
Thank you. We'll check them out!
Thanks for this great video!!!
Thanks for the thanks! Any relation to Kurt from Black Dog??
great work
Amazing bike and very interesting video. Thanks a lot for this and for your great products 👌🏻
Thanks for following us and the great comments about our products!
Thanks for all the very cool info!
Thanks for watching!
The level of ingenuity is out of this world. You guys really keep outdoing yourselves. How bout next race season you run a 690 Enduro so us Enduro owners can start enjoying some of that trickle down tech.
We actually have a completely works 690 in a build up coming. It's off the scale and we will be reporting on that one as well. You will love that one and we have coined it the 'Baja 690' and it will represent what KTM should have raced back in 2007 instead of showing up with a stock bike expecting to beat factory Honda's 650s.
@@RottweilerPerformance Sounds awesome! Can't wait
I liked the sensor trick.
I wish you guys would have done more with the 1090. Really incredible job on this build
Thank you! And us too. We wish we had more time for all these awesome bikes. Appreciate you checking this one out!
Very interesting video, full of good info. Great bike , great parts. Give many idea for custom a better bike. Thank you. 👍👍👍
my Norden 901 rips !! intake/cannister delete cat delete arrow mid pipe and silencer with pro programmed power commander and a boat load of other more minor parts mostly from your company all installed at the first service along with a set opf TKC80's , only had a chance for a short ride maybe 100 miles so far but feels awesome , still watching your site daily waiting for the replacement Hyperpro forks and shock springs kit to be available for this bike and a taller windscreen otherwise super happy so far
Love hearing this! Thank you and we are thrilled that you love the parts. That's why we do it!
@@RottweilerPerformance the diff your kit made on my 1090r prior was outstanding , and i wasnt going for performance at first just less heat and better running and reliability which it accomplished the performance gain was a side effect/benefit
@@justsomedude445 Just awesome. Thanks for sharing that! We LOVE happy customers.
@@RottweilerPerformance get on Hyperpro to develop their spring replacement kit for this Husky 901 and as soon as its shown ill be buying it , 1st day
The endurocell, rocks that get stuck in the back tire and get tossed into it, have you had a puncture from that?
Not a chance. It's way tougher than the stock fender well and those don't see punctures so you are good. lots of them out there, no issues whatsoever.
Wow🤩
Favourite part: All the info, really!! Ver helpful Chris!! My takeway? I learned DID is higher quality than Excel… an info I have been googling for some time but never had a conclusion which one is better over the other. Happy I already got the DIP PP wheel set from my KTM dealer.
Excellent! Glad this helped out Thomas. Thank you for the feedback.
Missed to mention I also got some other Goodies from you which I really enjoy (Intake system, Arrow decat, PC V, Scotts, Shifter Arm, AXP headsmashing skidplate, and some more).
Keep up your amazing work at RP!!
Can't stop watching this vidéo...
When the aux rear tank will be available ? Thx
They are pretty much done. We just need to shoot instructions which will be next week but we expect them to be available in January 2023 if not sooner. Basically just a lot on our plate in terms of growth has slowed the delivery of some items we would have wanted out months ago. Ironic? 🤔
Love my RP stuff! Would be cool if you made a water tank that fit behind your airbox!
Just fill this fuel tank with water instead! Just remember to not connect it to the fuel line though, cause that would be bad...
Any suggestions on a front break upgrade for us paranoid about the front locking up which KTM did the recall for? I’ve seen posts online of lockup’s happening post recall. Can you just replace the master cylinder with an off the shelf unit? Not to bothered about single disk as ride on road, it’s more piece of mind and if the feel is better that’s a bonus.
We would recommend the Brembo RCS 17 for dual disks with a reservoir kit, or the Brembo RCS15 for the single sided disk which we have a kit for. I believe it was the cheap master cylinders on the front braking system that were hanging up on the inside and causing those failures. We never had to warranty ours because we throw them in the trash the day we buy our bikes. www.rottweilerperformance.com/ktm-790-890-adventure-single-caliper-brake-kit-stage-2/
Nice work. Been waiting for this. Now what's going on with the titanium sub-frame? ;) Would be interesting if some narrower front tanks were made. I remember running my 950 on a 6l tank whilst my main tanks were being painted. It was so slim. Of course the thirsty LC8 meant I couldn't ride very far. On the triple clamp I'm pretty sure some of the Italian companies have had billet triples for the 790 adventure for a while.
Nice video.
The exhaust is similar to HP Corse?
Just need some Motion Footpegs to finish up that build;)
Well then! Tell us about them.
@@RottweilerPerformance well if you are into having less fatigue and more comfort while riding/standing then you are going to love them. Just saying…
@@motionfactoryracing5914 Then we would recommend you get a hold of our purchaser!
@@RottweilerPerformance I sent an email over with our Spring Catalog attached.
Looks great stripped back,a standard type for fuel tank with radiator scoops and a standard enduro h'light would look great,and save a lot of weight!
Take it the aux tank never made it to market?
We’ve been wanting to build something like that. Maybe we will at some point! Glad you enjoyed it.
Awesome video, a few things to add to the shopping list :) Pro intake and Arrow exhaust installed (with sidestand delete), next is the power commander. BnB make a good tough aluminium bashplate if you're in OZ
Seems like this bike has a ton of oddly engineered weak points more so than most. Glad you guys are able to sort it out and find solutions. On that note since you added 1.6 gallons to the tail section how about making a smaller main fuel tank that would eliminate the saggy ball effect of the stock tank that’s splayed to each side of the engine case?
That is actually on the table to manufacture if these are popular. Already scanned the stock tank and have some things drawn.
Great video by a great company that has fantastic products with superior performance and support for my orange monster. Shut up and take my money $$$$ LOL
Haha! Love it and thank you for the kind words.
when will you make this kind of video for tenere 700 ?
nice video, very information and very helpful
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful. Right now, our focus is primarily KTM, Husqvarna, and GasGas motorcycles but we hope to get to a point where we can start branching out into other brands and models.
Hi. Can you give a link for samco coolant hoses? I can't find it anyware.
Edit:
Ok I found it in your post under film.
I noticed you are using a combination of KTM Powerparts aluminum handguards with what seems to be Cycra HCM handlebar mounts. Does that help in increasing the clearance between the Brembo MC and the handguard bar?
Those are BRP bar mounts. Love them and reduce crap on the bars. www.rottweilerperformance.com/brp-hand-guard-mounts/
RP it is like legal cheating, love it.
Ha! Love that. Thanks for the comment.
What did you get the weight down to? It looks like you did not change the cable clutch to hydraulic; any preference?
Believe it or not we keep forgetting to weigh it. We think lower 400's but we'll get back to you. On the clutch, either are fine. We have run the Magura hydraulic lines and sell many of them and they are butter smooth. The cable isn't that bad, but on this bike we run our CRG Clutch kit where we had custom cables made by Motion Pro that link to CRG's R1 Yamaha lever that is adjustable both on the fulcrum and the lever position.
WOW!!!!
Did you enjoy this one? Thanks for watching.
@@RottweilerPerformance Trying to decide my next bike...Size, brand KTM Husky.. will without question use you guys for upgrades!!
@@210078 We will be here when you are ready and thank you!
@@RottweilerPerformance Absolutely
I want to do the pro intake and decat tube, leaving the stock muffler on my rally. Should i do a remap or power commander? Or can i leave it without any remapping?
You can certainly leave the mapping stock. There is no harm in that at all and the stock system will simply continue to map at 14.7 air fuel ratio just fine. The bike DOES NOT get lean with these changes. That is carburetor thinking. The stock system has narrow band O2's that monitor the exhaust and just keep everything at 14.7 in closed loop, which is safe. That being said, you are leaving some really good extra power on the table without mapping. So the answer is, yes it's safe, but you are missing out on some good extra ponies. Either way, you will love the airbox mods.
Where did you get the fork cable guide that fits the WP Pro forks? The cable guide for my 890r Xplor forks is too small for the Xplor Pro forks.
We believe there are cable guides that are specific to the two different forks. We can't remember the part number, or how we got them, but pretty sure there are two sizes, one for each fork type. If we can get a part number we will update for you!
@@RottweilerPerformance Thank you. The parts fiche that I keep seeing for the rally has the same part number as the non-rally bike so it is wrong. I will stop by my local dealer and see if they can help. The are a WP affiliate.
So this rally race bike cost you what, as much as a 450RR? I know which of the 2 I would choose for rally purposes
Certainly, and we would agree that would be an awesome bike, but this bike is very different and for different riders. The only reason we raced this bike in the Sonora Rally was to test parts durability and the bike itself to see what could go wrong with it. The good news is that nothing substantial failed and we placed 9 seconds out of third OVERALL PRO behind Ricky Brabec and Skylar Howes. On a 790... Mission accomplished and it turned way more heads than a 450RR would in the same position. That was really the goal.
Hi, do you guys use the camel 1 finger clutch pull piece?
Any interest or development in air intake breathing cleaner air from the battery location area. Breathing from a cleaner location is something I’d be interested in.
We looked into that, but there are a number of problems with that. First, you are putting the filter right in the customer's face, which can get a bit on the noisy side. Keeping things under the seat and next to the muffler is more ideal for that. Second, you would have to recreate the velocity stacks and that costs quite a bit in mold costs which would have to be passed on to the customer. Third, the flow of air would not be as direct and bending things around tends to lose velocity which is part and parcel why our intake designs work so well is that we try not to force air to change directions too many times. Fourth, you would have to make a battery relocation kit, and that's costs more money which also must be passed on to the customers and also adds more vendors and parts to the kit. Fifth, you would dramatically reduce plenum space for air to be pulled from and sixth, the size of the filter would probably end up much smaller, and therefore load up much quicker. Seventh, where it currently breaths has not been found to be an issue. Pretty much ever dirt bike in the world breaths from a similar location and so far our current design has held up very well in very dusty climates.
That's about the long and the short of it for us. We like the thinking you are doing, but we hope we illustrated well why we designed our system the way that we did.
Man I get the race bike function over form but I simply couldn’t ride a butt ugly headlight sticking out so far there has to be a way to make it look better
You mentioned you pick a handlebar bend to fit the controls in - may I ask which bar and bend you use?
To be honest, I just went and looked for you and it has no marks on it and I just can't remember what we ended up with. I think, it's just the KTM bend as we have a few of those laying around. The stock bend has way too much pull back for our liking and are cramped, but have some good bar real estate.
Hi, nice video!... one question, I have a 2022 890 ADV R and I want to do a weight reduction on this bike... do you know how much weight can be reduced changing wheels, exhaust, decat... etc?? Thanks!
You can drop 30+ lbs off of that bike easily if not more depending on your budget. There is 7 lbs of unsprung and rotating weight that can be lost using our single sided rotor kit. That's huge and really helps suspension work. You can use our rack eliminator kit to lose the rear handles and rack and go just fender. There is a couple lbs with the air box and major HP gains. A decat is worth about 4.5 lbs. Narrower rims toss a couple lbs each as well. Also check out our 'Diet Parts' section on our site. It's loaded with items we thing are major weight reducers. Here is the link for your model here: www.rottweilerperformance.com/new-category-11/
So, Total weigh for this rocket ? Why nobody changes the real heavy subframe to alloy ?
when aux tank please?
Working for September 2022.
Im thinking about buying another bike after 5 years or more away. Nothing appealed then I saw the 890. Knowing the rally version is all that more cash, is it worth the extra bucks? Or should I get the stock R bike and modify from there?
That's a tough one. If you like really nice suspension parts that are all billetey and beautiful, but work really well, then it's a good thing to consider. There are a number of other perks like carbon fiber tank guards that get ruined right away if you ever go down and the prestige of the livery colorways, so that may help push you off the fence, but if you don't care about that stuff you can probably achieve the same build with an R model and put the money saved into aftermarket parts and suspension and you'd probably be way ahead. If you are unlimited, do both!
@@RottweilerPerformance unlimited. Sadly very limited
@@jamesbarratt593 That's okay too. You can certainly make your budget work for you with the stock parts and some aftermarket parts and get very close. I would add that the suspension that the Rally comes with falls under 'diminishing returns', meaning that they are certainly better, but the 'better' gets smaller and smaller the further you go expense wise.
Are you doing dakars? If so how are you dealing with the new digital routing over the paper versions?
The digital mapping is great, but harder to see in the sun, so we had to make a shade for it that you can see in our Sonora Rally videos on days after day one. They weigh about the same as all the other crap and are just simple. Kind of 'Kindle' like.
Sadly Konflict is no mas! 😢
Alex is now over at Solid Performance doing great work with them. That's where we are sending our stuff now and have been extremely happy with the results they are giving us.
Hey can the rally tower be put on a 390 adv?
Anything is possible, but this one is designed for the 7/890 Adventure. If you are handy, you might be able to make this work, but that would be up to you.
Would you have a video like this for a Husqvarna 701 Enduro ? TY
We don't currently but we are working up to doing more of these because they are quite popular. We do have this build linked below in blog form that was also very popular. www.rottweilerperformance.com/blog/into-the-void-building-an-omega-rally-701/
@@RottweilerPerformance I’ll check it out. Thank you !
@@Lowdown13blues You got it!
When is the rear tank getting released.
Funny you should ask! Goes on pre order tomorrow (5/24/23) and shipping the week after. Boom! We got all the answers!
What type of rallys allow this size of bike?
Most of the time they’ll just find a class for you and fit you in. Some of them may not for safety reasons like Dakar, but for the Sonora Rally they had an ‘Adventure’ class just for us.
whats the gear ration on sprockets?
15/45 is what we run. The 15 tooth front sprocket allows a bit more ratio down low and 45 is stock rear.
Dumb question, do you have a how to for moving the abs sensor?
Not a dumb question at all, but we do not unfortunately. We just moved the rear sensor to the front and made a small billet carrier to mount the rear in the front at the bottom of the fork so that it also read from the same ABS ring.
@RottweilerPerformance was there any issues derived from it? Excluding not having abs or tc. Advrider conversation on it end with "could cause issues" seems like no one on that forum has tried.
Shoot us a link if you will. No issues at all and not sure why anyone would think there would be but not know the answer to it. The bike just things things are perfect in terms of wheel slip all the time. That's about it. Pretty simple, but you know how forums can be...@@houjous5131
@RottweilerPerformance definitely do, why I came to the source! Thanks for all the helpful info! 🫶
What happened to the power commander 5 for the 890 adv?
The 5th generation Power Commanders have reached their EOL (end of life) and those are currently being sunset for all models. The Power Commander 6 is now available for the 890 ADV and we are carrying those on our website here: www.rottweilerperformance.com/dynojet-power-commander-6-for-ktm-890-adventure/
@@RottweilerPerformance when can we expect pre-made maps for them? Like you have for the 5's?
@@emoservedwithfries Yes, and we are currently working on converting all of those over. All will still be supported with the PC6.
Hi can’t seem to find the fuel. Tank it avavliable yet? 3:56
Hi Timothy, the RP Auxiliary Fuel Tank hasn't been released yet. We hope to get those up on the website soon, so stay posted!
How can i get a rottweiler shirt?
Website shop
Kitchen or workshop...or hospital?
All of the above...
What i liked?
You are a good presenter. Clear and simple information.
But the best was I didn't have to look at the hideous KTM headlights, nor too much disgusting orange colour.
You bought a bike for 15k and add
10k😩
No way! Are you kidding us?? It was more like $20k...