The Trilobite (Heptopus Tabellarium) XX033 Stage 1-3 - Alien Species Explained
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They just want to give hugs.
So misunderstood
LOL
It’s wild how similar it is to the Engineers biosuit. So many mysteries still unanswered. Great video !!!!
Not mysteries just random stuff they stuffed in there cause they had no idea what they want nor did they plan it out. I read both Prometheus scripts and saw every interview, it's chaos, as the second half of Prometheus and the howl Covenant shit-show shows you. Such a waste of phenomenal potential.
Your right, Pure genetic chaos almost like that’s sort of the result of tangoing with genetic mutagenic substances
@@ProjectACHERON You mean artistic chaos. Anyone who understand film making and script writing and structure can tell it's a bloody mess. Shame, as it's got all it takes to be one of the best SF out there.
Well.not that wikd,they were all designed that way.
I love alien lore especially trilobite. And I can't wait for the next one to come out
Hopefully not long and will explore the deacon/protomorph
Its fascinating how Much the Black Goo can mutate and change life Forms in every Way, creatures like the Hammerpede, Trilobite, Deacon, Neomorph and Protomorph are very fascinating, also could you make a Video around Planet 4 and Davids Lab? I would love to See more from youre Videos 😊👍👍
It also changed some Queens they lost some parts of their skin but some of them could control it's bad effects
@@she-venom9842 i know what Queens You mean, You mean the Infected queen from the comic Prometheus life and Death/Fire and Stone and the Pathogen queen from the Aliens Fireteam Elite Dlc
@@xenoboy7828 Yeah glad you read the comics and novels i felt sorry for her😕
I’ll definitely be covering many more topics in the weeks to come don’t worry. Protomorph (Deacon) is the next one on the agenda
@@she-venom9842 i read a lot about the Alien and Predator Franchise and i would love a Movie maybe a conclution around davids story or a movie only based on the Engineers or Lv223 or even Planet 4
Great video! Hey would you ever be open to doing a video explaining the Predalien or possibly any of the wacky variants from the comics and other expanded works? Or are you sticking to the movie universe canon?
Hey there, movie universe sure, anything from the Alien Extended Universe also is a go! But on this chance I only cover stuff canon to the Alien Universe timeline so no predator stuff.
The circumstances surrounding this creature's existence near the end of Prometheus were rather biologically dubious. Shortly after being "born," the roughly ten pound organism was sealed inside a near-empty sterile room where it remained until the door was opened several hours later. However, when we see the organism again, it has clearly gained hundreds of pounds of body mass, the bulk of which appears to be extremely powerful muscle tissue. Despite being locked inside a metal room deprived of organic compounds during the time of its apparent development. It seems quite impossible.
Yes .impossible. It is fiction.
Almost like it’s, out of this world?
No but I do agree I am fascinated buy how this could be possible!
Perhaps it is able to absorb nutrients from non-organic compounds much like the first chestburster in Alien... that thing didn't have access to any organic compounds while it was growing, either. It had no contact with the living things on the Nostromo from the time it burst from Kane to when it took Brett.
You're kidding, the science from an alien in a cosmic horror monster movie doesn't add up to the real world? Fascinating...
@@princessmaly I must admit, I would have agreed with your statement that Science Fiction writers are careful not to incorporate legitimate concepts from modern physics, chemistry, or biology and use them as the basis for their creative story telling. You may also be right that science fiction isn't supposed to make any logical sense whatsoever and the plot's are designed to seem as implausible as possible. However, one thing that proves those notions wrong is the plot of every science fiction book/movie ever made...including Prometheus.
my man is almost at 20k Subs :D
So close right! 60 subs to go!!!
@@ProjectACHERON letz goooo frr u should make a 20k sub video on the life cycle of the alien queen
Now make a video explaining the Deacon concept art that shows how huge it would grow in full adult form!!!!
The Protomorph (Deacon) is the next video to be released!
The only thing I've ever seen that led me to empathise with an Engineer. Ghastly.
Yeah exactly haha
@@ProjectACHERON After I'd posted my original comment I was reminded of Giger's original concept art for the facehugger in which he depicted it as a huge prawn-like creature, almost as big as its victim. This was gradually reduced in size until the smaller version that we all know and love came to be. There is a certain irony in this as many complained that Prometheus didn't contain any Xenomorphs of the usual kind (i.e. like the original Alien movie) whereas, in reality, Prometheus with the Trilobite took us right back to Aliens' roots. If this seems like a bit of a ''stretch'' I'd suggest digging around on CZcams or in the various factual publications about ''Alien'' which are in print (but not Giger's Necronomicon itself as it is pre-Alien).
I dont think much about that creature but it would make a excellent guard for me😏
For sure!
Great video brother, My Alien RPG group freaking loves The Heart of Darkness campaign. We've played through it three times already, glad to see you're incorporating more material from the rpg game. How's your own belly-burster doing, lol?.
Yeah I love the RPG one of my favourite pieces of EU. It’s going well belly burster is 4.5 weeks away!!
@@ProjectACHERON Don't get the same Lambert face and reaction she had, when it pops out, lol.
Glad you're back🙂😀 please do more videos about Six and how Queens got captured by Predators and Xenos were trying to find a way to free her kinda like Matriarch and Zeta Empress🙂
We don’t want to hear about no damn predators!
@@giovannig2278 We? You talk of nobody
@@she-venom9842 you must be nobody talking about the predator non sense 😂🤌
@@giovannig2278 Nah it is you kid acting like talking of others and laughing you're nobody kiddo
@@she-venom9842 & who are you dirt bag?
Looks like the Flood from Halo
Sort of I guess
How does the trilobite fit into your Alien Awakened story, Acheron?
Trilobite dosent really have a place, it was more of a chaotic creation a one time thing
@@ProjectACHERON Interesting. I also thought that it was... well abberant to Alien. It was too much a monster-of-the-hour.
I wonder if a Space Jockey could wrestle with it far more successfully than an Engineer. Because, well... we saw what happened to the engineer.
For me everything is clear. Engineers did not create protogen, but found it form the remanings of ancient xenomorph-like sentient race, which sculpts are seen in reproduction temple in Prometheus movie. The first meeting with that technology led to "impregnation" of one of the engeneers somehow, lead to born of Deacon and the act of natural birth which became sacred for engeneers as race that lost it's ability to reproduce naturaly. This is why they mad a fresco of deacon. Deacon is purely product that borns from engeneers dna only. The dark potogen is actualy a deacon' blood (shown in temple)so engeneers started to produce deacons to obtain dark blood. So they only thing they need is somehow produce fecehugger, or pod (egg) which they did not succeeded with, so alternatively they can use a drop potogen combined with the sperm of male creature sharing same dna. So in fact trellbyte is litteraly human sperm cell that was mutated in the female womb, like facehugger grows inside the pod (egg), this is how engeneers adapted that reproductivity system for their goals. And at the end, when male sperm cell (as a product of dark potogen made from engeneer dna) have grown adult it can either impregnate engeneer or someone with the same dna to produce Deacon, alowing to obtain more black potogen. This is why xenomorphs in covenant were also looking similar to deacon, because they were born from same potogen, obtained from deacons, who was born from engeneers. The only difference is that the host for face hugger was the mushroom and the face bugger were not a trelobyte, but spores of the mushroom
Seems like it's more ancient than the facehugger
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Man, that's why Prometheus is B.S. The amount of bad writting required to explain that thing is staggering.
I think it’s designed to show the pure chaotic nature of what the engineers mutagenic pathogen can create
@@ProjectACHERONWell, you've shown you're far more adept at storytelling than Scott is. Please don't forget one day to release Ep7 for your Alien Awakening. I'm still in love with that story you concocted.
It seems the "Alien" story line you're presenting is verging towards the "Thing" story line. It's not entirely the same, but it seems it could start to blur...
The alien story I'm presenting? I'm just recounting prometheus and other alien materials, no of this is original lore to myself
@@ProjectACHERON Okay, but "they" walking a line to avoid losing distinctiveness.
I just get confused when they call it a trilobite as i thought trilobites were these things that crawl on the ground and are low in stature like the horseshoe crab?
Will you be doing a video on the Fulfremmen/Perfected?
Eventually yes!
What book is the blackhole story from?
its from alien the rug heart of darkness
I don't think it's all that inexplicable, with regards to the origin. First of all, the "strain" business is a red herring, the monsters presented in the RPG scenarios are identical to and fully intended to be the ones from the films, the only reason concessions are made is to future proof the material in case later media contradicts them. Second, Prometheus and Alien Covenant are not logically consistent, and the black goo as presented in those films doesn't really make any sense, does different things from scene to scene, and you never really feel like the writers actually knew what they were doing. So we already know two things, that the RPG authors are extrapolating ideas from the films to use in their scenarios in a way that at least must have felt consistent to them, and that none of us will ever get any answers from the films, because they don't have any answers, because they weren't designed to.
So in the adventure module the naiads come from a newly invented egg stage for the species called "utero-pods" or "womb-bats." I'm sure you know what uteruses and wombs are... that's where the naiad in the film was growing, inside Shaw. So already it's 1:1, naiads aren't like chestbursters, they grow in wombs. The difference between the film and module is that in the movie Shaw "conceives" in a way that the language of film is trying to tell us is natural. The division between anathemas and abominations seems to be ingestion vs. external exposure, Holloway and the sacrificial Engineer drink it, Fifield and the worms fall in a puddle of the stuff. And yeah, the bomber scene from Covenant complicates that, but the RPG accounts for that too, and when you compare the stages in the RPG vs. what happens to the Planet 4 Engineers in Covenant vs. the sacrificial Engineer in Prometheus... it's really all the same stuff, and it's the same thing that happens to Holloway, too, only slower. So the answer the RPG seems to be trying to tell us here is that there are two ways to be infected, one of them turns you into an alien, and the other seems to just turn you into more black goo. Like, right?
Okay so maybe the end result of a nocuous anathema is more complicated than that, but when we compare the living proto-hive to Cuddles' conception, if we reduce it down to the simplest possible equation... what we're getting black goo + human. But it's not really external exposure, and it's not ingestion either, it's internal, but it's different, because Shaw didn't turn into an anathema. So the suggestion is either that 1. black goo mutations are dependent on the types of organs/tissues they're altering, so from the skin inwards is one thing, from the stomach out is another, but it should also be different if you first become infected through reproductive organs. And that's interesting because it lends credence to the idea that Shaw's eggs were part of how David created his praetormorphs. Or it could be that 2. the process we saw happening with the sacrificial and Planet 4 Engineers wasn't simply "more black goo" but some kind of burster-type situation happening. Like, the Neomorphs, for instance, so they're created by the black goo + alien fungus, right? But the fruiting bodies didn't grow teeth and long heads and start killing people, they burst open and released motes, and that looks an awful lot like what happens to nocuous anathema, doesn't it? What if anathemas aren't simply exploding into more black goo, but are essentially becoming eggs for facehuggers of a different type of alien species. So, simple exposure creates one off mutants, the abominations and hammerpedes never seem to reproduce, but the ingestion method turns into into walking ovomorphs.
Either or both of those could be the case, but it wouldn't matter either way because they both lead us to the conclusion that naiads aren't actually that strange to begin with. Either explanation for why the one in Prometheus came to be would also explain why naiads burst out of *human* victims of the proto-hive. Yeah, that's right, they're all humans, remember? That's the key. The black goo changes the genetic material of things it infects to turn it into aliens, but spaceships don't have genetic material, so while the living biomechanical ship is certainly a strange new form of alien, functionally speaking, it's completely identical to pure, unmodified black goo. Humans grabbed by the hive aren't impregnated by xenomorphs or motes or anything like that, they're directly dosed with the black goo itself, and the resulting naiad - whether it's because the proto-hive quite literally assaults its victims, or if that's just the natural end point of all anathema - is ultimately the result of the same infection process we see in Prometheus.
The only real complication is that the actual "utero-pod" stage itself seems to be akin to something like the protomorph's version of eggmorphing. Which makes sense, because we don't know that they have queens, but I'm pretty certain that only phenotypically female people have functioning wombs, yet for game purposes the proto-hive - and all aliens in general - can threaten anyone. This could mean that it doesn't matter, that any reproductive organs or tissue is all the same to the black goo and if you give it an egg instead of a sperm the egg is just going to hatch into a naiad anwyas so what's the difference. But I think the intent in the module itself is to just be like, straight up, people are turning INTO wombs. After all, Shaw was infertile, nothing about her reproductive system was doing the work for the black goo, so all she was to it was raw material, the goo did all the work. So if it can do all that work, why not do more? So that sort of forces the question of why we never see the black goo acting AS the monster, forming proto-hives, and infecting hosts intentionally... but like, y'know, I assume that the whole black hole thing an tampering might have been relate to that.
But, again, my point is, that despite the differences in the way the black goo acts and infects hosts, the rules, or at least the rules as made sense of in hindsight by people who think too much about this stuff an really want to find a way to make it work, do seem to be the same underneath the complications. Black goo + human reproductive tissue OR black goo ingested by a human OR both leads to a naiad bursting out of them. A simpler way to think of it would be like, you've got three kinds of black goo results: 1. your abominations/mutants, like Fifield and the hammerpedes, 2. your anathemas, and 3. your "morphs" which have parasitic lifecycles and might naturally arise from anathemas, or be mutations caused specifically by black goo infecting reproductive organs. So neomorphs are the "fruiting body aliens" and protomorphs are the "female human womb" aliens, and then praetomorphs might be a combination of both? And xenos are... well who the hell knows, honestly we'll probably never get an answer, and it might be better that way.
What's the source material for the 2nd half of the vid? A novel or part of an RPG supplement?
Edit: ah, found it! Heart of darkness
You got it hah, yeah it’s the heart of darkness expansion for the RPG
Alien franchise ranking
#1 Aliens
#2 Alien
#3 Prometeous
#4 Resurrection
#5 Covenant
#6 Alien 3
Mine would go
Alien + Aliens tied
Prometheus
Covenant
Alien 3
Resurrection
@@ProjectACHERON i kinda agree anyway about Alien 3 let me b blunt I couldn't ever award not even d fourth place to d movie which worn 2 rags my all time fav SFHA flick (along with Blade Runner) Aliens.
1 alien
2 alien isolation
3aliens
4alien 3
Alien Isolation is a love letter 2 all fans n a stunning homage 2 d 1st masterpiece of RS as well but given that it belongs 2 a different media I couldn't put it in a list of gr8 movies although I must confess that I enjoyed this beautiful VG quite a lot.
I’m just waiting on Hollywood to give me my transgender xenomorph. I don’t feel like that’s asking too much.
I mean I’m pretty sure the creature are one gender?
@@ProjectACHERON that’s unacceptable. It’s 2023!! There are unlimited genders!!!! REeeeeeeeeeee!!