Since SMG4 said the PuzzleVision Saga is over, clench could be related to something different, but this would be confusing since he appeared a month before Mr puzzles done his plan
Up stairs will most likely be marios and meat mallet Luigi or megis room or another characters room but I think it will be marios and Luigi's room because they're the last characters and in the mushroom kingdom and it would make sense then the star of the show would live there and after some time we would see Tari and megi build a place or get a new room
Personally i dont think everything is over, puzzlevision may be done but its still very clear that mr puzzles has done a lot and left a lot influenced by him. So id think its still related to mr puzzles in some way, but during a different story arc it can be revealed, with the new villain using whatever was left cause of mr puzzles influence for themselves. Or thats the best i can think of cause the showgrounds literally only screamed mr puzzles. Also another thing is that the puzzlevision movie had an inconclusive end, so that just adds on to the theory
EXACTLY! The 2 biggest questions for me was the Clench thing and the GOD DAMN boarded up door. Like Clench what was the purpose of him if we didn’t even see him in the movie? Will he be important for the future? And the damn door bro, it’s been 8 months. AND we still don’t know anything of what’s behind that boarded up DOOR.. I think we still have a lot of things important for the future that await’s us. Especially the Clench and Door thing. I hope we get answers soon.. just gotta be patient. (And also the upstairs of the show ground is still ALSO not revealed? Man my curiosity is killing me rn)
I feel like the Puzzlevision arc is similar the end of the Genesis arc. The Genesis arc ended with a lot of unanswered mysteries, like the Puzzlevision movie. Which is why I feel like there is a bigger threat behind Mr Puzzles.
@@jockson7574he must have something to deal with the real world, like where the god box originated. He probably wasn’t a video game character or meme but rather and actual person who replaced his head with that of a tv and that way, he managed to access the smg4 universe
Dude you're right because I thought the film revealed the mystery of the locked door in Smg4's castle but. nothing just the defeat of Mr. Puzzle. and why clench Tari's arm doesn't speak anymore??!!!
I just don’t see the purpose for introducing Clench shortly before the Puzzlevision saga began if he was never even gonna be a factor in it. You might as well introduce him after it’s over.
As someone who recently finished Meta Runner just a few days ago, I think Clench might be Theo. That just seems like a name Theo would confidently come up with as an arm and hand.
and also WHEN IS THE UPSTAIRS OF SMG4'S CASTLE GONNA DONE?! I MEAN SERIOUSLY IT HAS BEEN 8 MONTHS MAYBE MORE IDK I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS UPSTAIRS! But I Do Think It Might BEEN The Rock Stage Saiko Wanted...
We all know Meggy still wants to teach Tari how to be stronger, but Clench might teach Tari a few other things that Meggy doesn't know, which leads Meggy to become more jealous and frustrated with Clench and continues having a rivalry with him. But who knows what will happen.
I think one of the best ways that "Mr. Puzzles" would return; would be the "Bill Cipher" route in Gravity Falls messing around in the background in a small or big way until the next "WOTFI" where he tries gets payback on the smg4 crew. Other than that, was hoping that "Puzzlevision" was the prologue to introduce him into the world.
I feel like Mario is gonna get snaking behind that door like in the episode Do not enter when he goes in the room in Saiko apartment where Saiko has been forbidding everyone to do which had a labtop with her game that she was removed from who knows what Will be behind the door in the new castle
Well, if the Showgrounds is linked with Mr Puzzles then the fact that the door is still locked up tight tells me that this isn’t over. Yeah the saga itself might be over, but I don’t think Mr Puzzles is just yet
When the next arc comes out I am pretty sure there is something sinister inside that boarded door and Clench was about to Tari that she is from but he is not to allowed to remember to that, we don't know who Tari is and they didn't tell us about her backstory(well I know they did tell us Meta Runner version Tari's story in Meta Runner)
I mean, it's still unknown whether Mr Puzzles is done for good or not, so maybe one day he might return and we get a proper explanation for the boarded door. Hell, maybe he might even appear in this Tari-centric story (Perhaps to tie in with your previous theory, Clench might be the one to reactivate Puzzles and recruit him? Serving as the next upcoming antagonist of the series?)
I bet clench had to shut down himself from smg4 and smg3 because he doesn’t want to reveal to tari that 4 was the one that created tari and meta runner
I have a theory! What if Clench was actually made by Mr.Puzzles and that’s why Clench wasn’t there? OR, since Clench is the robotic arm, Mr.Puzzles could control him to keep him down.
I think boarded up door could have something to do woth kaizo and saiko cuz remember in the kaizo storyline saiko also had a boarded up room where the game she and kaizo were from was being held so maybe the door has something to do with them
To be honest I honestly thought SMG4 did the “psst” plus I kinda forgot Clench existed until I heard his voice actor as Kermit the frog and I was like *oh yeah he voices a character*
my honest theory is that somehow mr puzzles hacked into tari's arm and disguised himself as clench (for the goofy shenanigans|) and was trying to lead tari and the smg4 crew down into the basement here mr puzzles could get them.
honestly? i just think clench was poorly introduced and isn't really all that fleshed out for now, and the reason he hid from the smg4 crew is because, well, tari doesn't really want people knowing she has a sentient arm and clench just decided to hide because she asked him to. i know he revealed himself to the other characters, but that was mostly because he was some what provoked by them and, again, probably wasn't fully fleshed out at the time
Idk my theories: Mario appear all places Its Gotta be Perfect, Western Sphaggeti Where Meggy wake up and he too wake up too but how?, WOTFI 2023 Marios has stole Notebook Smg4. I think Mario is Victim, but Mr.Puzzles was returned?
Dude it is the normal tari arm because I am pretty sure that clench has been here since tari got that arm and stay quiet until now plus it's a new chacter
I believe clench and the mysterious door will have relevance for the next arc which I still believe will be mr puzzles returning. I have some ideas being that he stops goofing off and kills Tari, takes over Kevin’s school, and takes over CZcams. He would then have old villains like zero/niles, lawyer Kong, Francis, complete form Waluigi, etc (which are all illusions) to kill SMG4. He would also raise peach’s castle and have her as a boss to command her to spread the goop across the mushroom kingdom. In the end, Mr puzzles finally dies, or, he realized what he’s doing was wrong and remembered his young hood when he was alone and that insecurity made him stop. He would get finished off but they don’t kill him and instead understand his pain and offer him to join the crew
I could see it going like this: (The crew end up walking off from the showgrounds to investigate an emergency near the mushroom kingdom city. Unbeknownst to them, Mr Puzzles is lurking from the shadows of the forest) Mr Puzzles: You guys just had to ruin my fun... You all made me look like a fool... Well, I promise I will show you what happens when you mess with Mr Puzzles... (Mr Puzzles pulls out pieces of paper) Mr Puzzles: And for my audience, I shall perform a trick no villain has ever done before... Reviving the dead! (Mr Puzzles looks to the viewers) Mr Puzzles: Cliche, I know, but I wanted to make sure this is a good show! (Mr Puzzles throws the pieces of paper onto the ground. On them, we see photos of some of the old villains. Dramatic music plays as we see hands emerging from the photos before Mr Puzzles laughs...) (Later, Mr Puzzles is now near where the castle once stood with a smirk on his face) Mr Puzzles: To show them that this revenge is personal, I shall bring forth a forgotten friend they left! (With his powers, Mr Puzzles brings the castle back from the ground as we hear the familiar screeches of the now mutated Peach. She emerges from the castle before trying to strike at the TV entity. Mr Puzzles suddenly snaps his fingers, causing Peach to suddenly stop and sit like a dog) Mr Puzzles: Peach, Peach... Been a while since you've appeared! Just look at you! You've changed so much! (Peach begins to growl a bit at that last statement before Mr Puzzles reassures her) Mr Puzzles: Now now Peach, I know you want to protect you castle, but believe me, I'm not interested in stealing it. In fact, I came here to offer you... a deal... (Peach moves her head in curiosity) Mr Puzzles: I'm sure you remembered how that blasted SMG4 and his crew not only blew up your castle, but left you to die... They replaced you... With Meggy, that blasted spotlight stealer! (His face shifts into a grin) I know we both hate SMG4 for ruining our lives, so that's why I propose an... opportunity. Mr Puzzles: I want you to spread your goop across the kingdom, show the world what happens when they mess with you Peach! (Peach is smirking or at least something close to it) Mr Puzzles: Help succeed in me taking down SMG4 and his band of brats, not only will I help revert you to normal, but your castle will be brought to life... Fail me again and not only will you be stuck like this... Not only will you remain a hideous monster, but I will turn your kingdom into a bigger hellscape... I want you to capture the crew and destroy anything that stands in your way... Am I clear? (Peach smirks as she stomps off. Mr Puzzles turns to see photos of Desti, Axol, and Spudnik before giving off a sadistic smirk) Mr Puzzles: You know, such a shame you three had to be destroyed... I'm sure you all would have liked to stare in my show... I actually hold no ill will or grudges against you three... Even if I was indirectly involved in your deaths... (He laughs in a creepily calm manner before walking off) What do you think of this script?
Nah, I think Meggy might die. Not only is she overused, but what is there left to do with our former inkling girl? She has went through so much character development that there's really nothing they can do. The only other way she might be used after Mr Puzzles is defeated is if sunset paradise season 2 happens which is unlikely. Plus, it's time we get some other characters a day in the limelight which is why I think Meggy might die in the next arc. Meggy has been milked so much that her character has become the equivalent of stale popcorn. Kevin and Luke probably might realize this too since they want to be more experimental with their stories
Unrelated, but here's an idea for next week's episode. After the crew end up intentionally causing destruction from the arc villains they faced, Everyone associated with the glitchy crew are forced to go to therapy. It's here that their client tells them that the problem they have is that the crew don't act like 'normal' people which Meggy asks what he means by that. The client explains how the crew see themselves as these intense anime heroes rather than fun loving friends who hang out which causes the crew to be offended. So, SMG4 and his friends are forced to give up their hero lifestyles and powers to live like 'normal' people, but it isn't as fun as it turns out to be (When Meggy is cornered by a bunch of bullies without her splatgun, she is mauled to death. Melony tries to use her fierce deity powers to destroy someone mocking her journal, but she doesn't succeed. SMG3 notices a truck full of money and attempts to use his hands to 'pause' but he ends up failing in an epic manner). Of course, hearing that the crew are now powerless, the villains begin wreaking havoc onto the mushroom kingdom and the therapist realizes the crew need their powers to save the day. This is meant to be a commentary on how the episodes shifted from fun simple bloopers to action/drama stories (Not that I hate the new direction the series is going, but I figured this could be a fun episode idea). Of course, it's also a typical 'be yourself' story where the crew realize that even if they aren't really 'normal', they shouldn't act like people they aren't.
@@jockson7574 Well, I do watch a lot of SMG4 videos and love to analyze them. One thing I find surprising is the fact that the mushroom kingdom doesn't seem to be in shambles after what happened to Peach.
I know y’all probably think I’m obsessed with this, and I probably am, but… anti-Shroomy vs demon peach arc, come on, the pieces are in such a perfect place for that. I sincerely hope that’s something SMG4 plans to do later on Another theory I have is that there’s a power vacuum in the mushroom kingdom, which may cause a power hungry kingdom to decide that it’s up for grabs. I mean, said kingdom IS come to the avatar and both super meme guardians, that kind of power would be kinda cool to have
I thought of a mini arc. With Peach and the castle gone, the mushroom kingdom is now in shambles with riots happening in the streets and the police unable to quell it down (Not that the police saw it as a big issue since before IGTBP, they were focused more on making laws on toilets for some reason. The police do plan on pinning the blame onto the crew). Wanting to prevent the riots from getting worse, the crew head down to try and calm them down. Will they succeed in stopping the riots or will the mushroom kingdom be plagued with chaos? Of course, Mr Puzzles (who survived) plans on making a show out of this by manipulating events. So, the characters that go down to stop the riot are Mario, Luigi, Meggy, Tari, Saiko, SMG4, SMG3, Melony, SMG1, and SMG2. They have Boopkins and Bob stay behind to watch over the inkling kid seen in WS. Later on, Kaizo and the anti cast join the crew to stop the riots as well. What do you think of this? Any criticisms are welcome.
@@benbarnett5743I feel like some of the characters you listed like Kaizo and Mario would join in on the chaos rather than try to stop it, which would be funnier tbh. Otherwise good theory
@@SMM5 Episode 2: (Mario and Luigi are driving to the showgrounds to reconvene with their friends) Luigi: Mario, what is happening?! (Of course, Mario isn't phased in the slightest) Mario: Eh, nothing out of the ordinary! Everything looked fine in the mushroom kingdom! (As they drive, Mario is completely oblivious to the fistfights, witch hunts, and riots happening. For Mario, this is just an average day in the world of SMG4) Luigi: Well, I'm just surprised it took this long for the kingdom to fall into anarchy! We should make sure the crew are safe! Mario: Alright! (Thrusts the car into full gear) HERE WE GOOOO! (Back at the showgrounds, we see the others doing various fun activities. SMG4 is preparing for his new futures arcs, SMG3 is hanging out with Eggdog, SMG1/SMG2 were practicing meme energy, Tari and Meggy were playing Smash Ultimate, and Melony was fast asleep) (In their game of Smash, Tari is beating Meggy after 6 matches. Meggy throws her controller in the background) Meggy: UGH, HOW CAN I LOSE TO YOU?! Tari: Well, I am just naturally experienced with games. Either way, you still did good! Meggy: Oh yeah, how about you compete against her! (Meggy points to Saiko) Tari: Please, she is no match for me at any game! Saiko: How about guitar player?! I can beat you at that! Tari: You're on! SMG1: Hey, would you girls be quiet?! Me and 2 are trying to master new meme energy! (SMG1 and 2 are using meme energy to bring life to a ragdoll. They succeed and congratulate each other) SMG2: Man, feels like it's been forever since we've done something! (SMG3 4 walks in) SMG3: Yeah no kidding, you two have been literal ghosts for a bit! (Downstairs, back with the girls, we see the inkling from the end of WS appear) Meggy: Let's not fight in front of little inky here! You know, I still am trying to figure out a good name. SMG4: How about Linda? Meggy: That's an old lady's name! I was thinking Elsie would be a fitting name! Melony: Yeah Elsie! Has a nice ring to it! Elsie: So, I have a name now? No one's ever given me a name! Meggy: Welcome to the crew Linda! (Suddenly, Mario and Luigi burst into the showgrounds in their kart, causing a massive hole in the walls. Everyone comes running to the scene) Meggy: MARIO! WE JUST HAD THAT WALL FIXED! Melony: (Comes to see if they're alive and is thankful that they are still breathing) What do you think they were doing? SMG3: Probably here to cause chaos. Tari: But I don't think Luigi would go along with it. Meggy: Well, this wouldn't be the first time they destroyed the castle... (Saiko suddenly comes up to explain to them what the context is) Saiko: It's probably those riots happening in the mushroom kingdom. (Everyone seems confused by what she was saying) You all seriously haven't seen the news? Karen, turn the news on! Karen: Got it! (Karen turns the news onto a special report) Kermit: (on the TV) Breaking news! The mushroom kingdom has been in total shambles ever since the dehtorning of Peach! Riots are breaking out into the city with seemingly no end to the chaos! (Footage shows tons of fistfights, witch hunts, and chaos happening in the streets) Karen: These riots have been going on all day. I'm just surprised they didn't happen until now!
(As Karen shows them the footage, she explains how law enforcement hasn't really been successful at quelling the situation) Meggy: Why something like this didn't happen until now is beyond me. (Everyone was disturbed by the footage of destruction, but SMG4 was feeling nothing but paranoia. He knew that, since he was the one that sunk Peach's castle, if the world were to find out, the entire glitchy crew would be next. Thankfully, the showgrounds was off the radar, but he wasn't sure how long that would last) Tari: Shouldn't we do something? We can't just let those citizens destroy each other! (SMG1 steps up with 2 to break the silence) SMG1: Tari has a valid point. Without a leader, the police and military aren't gonna be much help. (Mario and Luigi suddenly wake up with Luigi about to explain the scenario) Luigi: Oh hey guys! We just wanted to tell you guys about the riots and- (Notices the TV displaying the news) Oh. Never mind. Mario: (Wakes up and notices his spaghetti is gone) MY SPAGHETTI! NO! (Saiko runs over to shut him up) Saiko: PUT A SOCK IN IT! Meggy: Yeah Luigi, we are deciding to try and help solve the problem before it gets worse. We don't have a plan yet but we're coming up with one. SMG4: Alright, so here's my plan, we'll- (Mario cuts him off) Mario: We'll join the riots! (Meggy slaps Mario) Meggy: No! We need to stop these riots! Mario: Ah, you guys are no fun! SMG4: Alright, as I was saying, with Peach... uh... out of the office... the people won't be calmed down easily. So we'll need to find a new ruler. Mario: Can I be the new ruler Everyone: (In unison) NO! Mario: Why not? SMG4: Last time, you became dictator that reshaped the kingdom in your image! Mario: Why do you guys ruin my fun?! Melony: Well, the question is now how we find a new ruler SMG1: Excellent question Meggy. That brings us to our next point. Toadsworth. SMG2: Being Peach's steward, surely he must be able to rule in his stead or at least find someone who can rule the kingdom as good as Peach. SMG3: That old guy? Nah. Why don't I rule the kingdom? Saiko: YOU'D BE WORSE THAN MARIO! SMG3: How could I be worse than that dumba- (Stops when he notices Linda is around) Sorry. SMG4: Ok, before we all start fighting, how about this. We'll split up into teams. Mario, Karen, Melony, Tari, Saiko, and Meggy, you five will be tasked with keeping the riots under control. SMG1, SMG2, Luigi, Tari, SMG3, and myself will go and find Toadsworth to find a replacement princess. Everyone: Got it! Meggy: Wait! Wait about Elsie? SMG4: Oh right, Elsie. Anyone want to babysit her? (On cue, Bob and Boopkins walk into the castle) Boopkins: Hey guys, what are you all doing? Mario: Just about to join some riots. (Meggy slaps Mario) Meggy: No, we're about to save the world and stop the riots. Bob: Oh yeah, me and Boopkins just got back from the city. Boopkins: Yeah... to say it's not in the best shape is an understatement. SMG4: Well, would you guys be kind enough to care for Elsie here? Bob: Who's that? Meggy: The inkling I trained after we escaped Wren's simulation. Bob: Oh right! Yeah, me and Boopkins can totally do it! Boopkins: Yeah, we'll watch anime and play board games! It'll be fun! Meggy: Alright! (Is about to walk off before she sternly looks at Bob) Oh and please don't swear in front of Elsie? (Her face goes back to a cheerful one) Alright, we're off to save the world! (The groups walk off to do their usual thing of saving the mushroom kingdom)
My headcanon (that I've had since Western Spaghetti) is that Mr Puzzles is an Alternate version of Dr Sheridan from Meta Runner, as they are both sociopaths with cybernetic enhancements and reality-bending technology, and want to put everyone in a digital world where they are god.
I think it would be cool of Mr. Puzzles comes back and actually joins the cast and help SMG4 make his videos. Perhaps he can live in the castle in either one of the yet to be finished rooms, or inside the boarded up room.
casually, realizing clench might somehow be able to cause Mr. puzzle to malfunction when he tried to shoot Mario might be because Mario broke his screen, but if you really think about it, he was able to shoot Luigi at one part
I'll never watch SMG4 again. Although these unanswered mysteries are tempting the hell out of me. 😵 By the way, nice ending you made with that jumpscare.
He said clench will save the boys from mr.puzzles and he never appeared maybe since it was offline from power outage he didnt apeeared in the show or watched but the theory can be easily debunked bcs mario was watching tv in light off so the power was on It was just the lights
Since SMG4 said the PuzzleVision Saga is over, clench could be related to something different, but this would be confusing since he appeared a month before Mr puzzles done his plan
Where.
Puzzle vision saga part 1 (or part 4 if we count those 3 movies) is over but there is still part 2(or part 5)
Up stairs will most likely be marios and meat mallet Luigi or megis room or another characters room but I think it will be marios and Luigi's room because they're the last characters and in the mushroom kingdom and it would make sense then the star of the show would live there and after some time we would see Tari and megi build a place or get a new room
It could be that Mr. Puzzles wasn't expecting Clench at all.
They should do something with clench, he 100% leaves room for something to happen in the future (PuzzleVision related or not)
Random thought, but I have a headcanon that the characters redesigns are meant to be analogous to accepting the fact that we all grow up
I just remembered that it also didn't explain on how Meggy knows Mr. Puzzles logo back in the Western Spaghetti film
Personally i dont think everything is over, puzzlevision may be done but its still very clear that mr puzzles has done a lot and left a lot influenced by him. So id think its still related to mr puzzles in some way, but during a different story arc it can be revealed, with the new villain using whatever was left cause of mr puzzles influence for themselves. Or thats the best i can think of cause the showgrounds literally only screamed mr puzzles. Also another thing is that the puzzlevision movie had an inconclusive end, so that just adds on to the theory
EXACTLY! The 2 biggest questions for me was the Clench thing and the GOD DAMN boarded up door.
Like Clench what was the purpose of him if we didn’t even see him in the movie? Will he be important for the future?
And the damn door bro, it’s been 8 months. AND we still don’t know anything of what’s behind that boarded up DOOR..
I think we still have a lot of things important for the future that await’s us. Especially the Clench and Door thing. I hope we get answers soon.. just gotta be patient. (And also the upstairs of the show ground is still ALSO not revealed? Man my curiosity is killing me rn)
My theory about the door is that it's a seal placed by SMG1 & 2 to imprison all the villains in case they come back.
Could be a set up for the next arc.
Tari might ask about why he didn't help much. I don't know.
I feel like the Puzzlevision arc is similar the end of the Genesis arc. The Genesis arc ended with a lot of unanswered mysteries, like the Puzzlevision movie. Which is why I feel like there is a bigger threat behind Mr Puzzles.
Are you saying there is someone controlling mr puzzles similar to how zero and Axol were controlled by niles?
@@jockson7574 yeah
@@marios_p1ngas that’s a possibility but considering how he controlled people I doubt it someone is controlling him
@@jockson7574the reviews from the movie start
@@jockson7574he must have something to deal with the real world, like where the god box originated. He probably wasn’t a video game character or meme but rather and actual person who replaced his head with that of a tv and that way, he managed to access the smg4 universe
The random nightmare fredbear UCN Jumpscare at the end almost got me ngl
5:08 WE NEED THAT MAP
Dude you're right because I thought the film revealed the mystery of the locked door in Smg4's castle but. nothing just the defeat of Mr. Puzzle. and why clench Tari's arm doesn't speak anymore??!!!
Maybe clench shut down when bob ,Smg4 and Smg3 comes because Tari don’t want that all of her friends know about clench.
But Clench showed himself to Bob in his debut episode.
@@coolioscor4082 it was mostly because he was provoked since bob insulted tari if i remember correctly
I just don’t see the purpose for introducing Clench shortly before the Puzzlevision saga began if he was never even gonna be a factor in it. You might as well introduce him after it’s over.
As someone who recently finished Meta Runner just a few days ago, I think Clench might be Theo.
That just seems like a name Theo would confidently come up with as an arm and hand.
and also WHEN IS THE UPSTAIRS OF SMG4'S CASTLE GONNA DONE?! I MEAN SERIOUSLY IT HAS BEEN 8 MONTHS MAYBE MORE IDK I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS UPSTAIRS! But I Do Think It Might BEEN The Rock Stage Saiko Wanted...
Next theory: luigi still being a meat mallet even though Mr puzzles is defeated, is a sign that Mr puzzles will return.
We all know Meggy still wants to teach Tari how to be stronger, but Clench might teach Tari a few other things that Meggy doesn't know, which leads Meggy to become more jealous and frustrated with Clench and continues having a rivalry with him. But who knows what will happen.
I hope we learn more about clenched and the second floor in the WOTFI this year
I think one of the best ways that "Mr. Puzzles" would return; would be the "Bill Cipher" route in Gravity Falls messing around in the background in a small or big way until the next "WOTFI" where he tries gets payback on the smg4 crew. Other than that, was hoping that "Puzzlevision" was the prologue to introduce him into the world.
I feel like Mario is gonna get snaking behind that door like in the episode
Do not enter when he goes in the room in Saiko apartment where Saiko has been forbidding everyone to do which had a labtop with her game that she was removed from who knows what Will be behind the door in the new castle
I still wonder what the closed door has to do with the story and if Mr Puzzles has a connection to it
Maybe the Tari and Clench story could happen in July for Meta Runner's 5th anniversary
Also, did anyone notice that Mr. puzzles also has an arm that can do many things? Just like clench.
Well, if the Showgrounds is linked with Mr Puzzles then the fact that the door is still locked up tight tells me that this isn’t over. Yeah the saga itself might be over, but I don’t think Mr Puzzles is just yet
About the topic of characters being fully voice acted, isn’t the inkling kid being coached by meggy at the end of western spaghetti fully voice acted?
When the next arc comes out I am pretty sure there is something sinister inside that boarded door and Clench was about to Tari that she is from but he is not to allowed to remember to that, we don't know who Tari is and they didn't tell us about her backstory(well I know they did tell us Meta Runner version Tari's story in Meta Runner)
A similar feeling towards clench in the saga but i gues we wait for a another year till then
What about the questions about where melony and saiko were during everything?
I mean, it's still unknown whether Mr Puzzles is done for good or not, so maybe one day he might return and we get a proper explanation for the boarded door. Hell, maybe he might even appear in this Tari-centric story (Perhaps to tie in with your previous theory, Clench might be the one to reactivate Puzzles and recruit him? Serving as the next upcoming antagonist of the series?)
Yeah, I doubt Mr Puzzles is dead. He'll probably come back with a bigger scheme
@@benbarnett5743 IT'S CONFIRMED BY THE LATEST SMG4 COMMUNITY POST HE CAN COME BACK, IT'LL ALL DEPEND ON VIEWER'S RECEPTION OF HIS CHARACTER
THE JUMPSCARE- 5:38
If SMG4 keeps this up we're gonna have a second arc start halfway into a first.
Theres a episode 1 year ago called DO NOT OPEN
Clench is not even the real robots name.
1:23 NEW THEORY!
MAYBE CLENCH SAW THAT THEY
APPEARED AND HID, SO THEY DONT
FREAK OUT!
Samurai arc
What if there’s a villain called the inventor who invented the keyboard, the simulation, Mr. puzzles and clinch?
I bet clench had to shut down himself from smg4 and smg3 because he doesn’t want to reveal to tari that 4 was the one that created tari and meta runner
We gotta know what’s behind that door eventually this year
💕chench is not in the movie!💕
I all so thought it was clench back their
The door story probably got scrapped or it’s gonna be apart of the next arc
I have a theory! What if Clench was actually made by Mr.Puzzles and that’s why Clench wasn’t there? OR, since Clench is the robotic arm, Mr.Puzzles could control him to keep him down.
If you’re trying to scare me with that cheap jumpscare, try again.
I REALLY don't feel like puzzlevision was actually defeated.
Yeah his defeat at the end was rather easy. A little too easy if you ask me. Even SMG4 should realize how suspiciously easy that was
I think boarded up door could have something to do woth kaizo and saiko cuz remember in the kaizo storyline saiko also had a boarded up room where the game she and kaizo were from was being held so maybe the door has something to do with them
see that door
I like that he’s playing GW2
Clench is gonna be the wotfi antagonist villain I’m guessing
To be honest I honestly thought SMG4 did the “psst” plus I kinda forgot Clench existed until I heard his voice actor as Kermit the frog and I was like *oh yeah he voices a character*
i think clench was hiding from mario, since mario was crazy.
maybe the boarded up door is a lab?
my honest theory is that somehow mr puzzles hacked into tari's arm and disguised himself as clench (for the goofy shenanigans|) and was trying to lead tari and the smg4 crew down into the basement here mr puzzles could get them.
Don’t forget about the mysterious second floor in the SMG4 castle
I honestly believe Clench is TV Adware and will bring back Mr. Puzzles, not as the antagonist though since the saga is over
The door will be apart of an arc that may come out in this year
A jumpscare at the end really null?😅
honestly? i just think clench was poorly introduced and isn't really all that fleshed out for now, and the reason he hid from the smg4 crew is because, well, tari doesn't really want people knowing she has a sentient arm and clench just decided to hide because she asked him to. i know he revealed himself to the other characters, but that was mostly because he was some what provoked by them and, again, probably wasn't fully fleshed out at the time
This is like the SML new house door all over again
What’s that
Search the video SML new house, then after that watch SML the secret door
Perhaps the boarded up door is an old lair of PV’s? Could make sense that it was boarded but I doubt it.
SMG4 Secret Door Arc
Idk my theories: Mario appear all places Its Gotta be Perfect, Western Sphaggeti Where Meggy wake up and he too wake up too but how?, WOTFI 2023 Marios has stole Notebook Smg4.
I think Mario is Victim, but Mr.Puzzles was returned?
nice jumpscare at the end, but next time, keep it to yourself
Why cant people leave clench alone!?!?
Ending jumpscare
🤔
i want to know what is in that door?
The secret door i tought it was mr puzzles studio....but....it seems it's not....so i don't know what scary shit it's hiding
Random Thought: What if Clench Was Depresso The Clown
(Idk Man i Got No Good Theories)
Advent arc?
He probably is a puppet of puzzle vision and will be apart of his possible revival or some other way of puzzle vision returning
I feel like that tascorp might become cannon
1:43 I thought the same thing to
I am praying Clench is killed off at some point. Tari's arm needs to return to normal.
Dude it is the normal tari arm because I am pretty sure that clench has been here since tari got that arm and stay quiet until now plus it's a new chacter
I woke up in a new BUGATTIIII [yeah, yeah, yeah!]
HERE
the clench apear 3 times
3:59
I believe clench and the mysterious door will have relevance for the next arc which I still believe will be mr puzzles returning. I have some ideas being that he stops goofing off and kills Tari, takes over Kevin’s school, and takes over CZcams. He would then have old villains like zero/niles, lawyer Kong, Francis, complete form Waluigi, etc (which are all illusions) to kill SMG4. He would also raise peach’s castle and have her as a boss to command her to spread the goop across the mushroom kingdom. In the end, Mr puzzles finally dies, or, he realized what he’s doing was wrong and remembered his young hood when he was alone and that insecurity made him stop. He would get finished off but they don’t kill him and instead understand his pain and offer him to join the crew
I could see it going like this:
(The crew end up walking off from the showgrounds to investigate an emergency near the mushroom kingdom city. Unbeknownst to them, Mr Puzzles is lurking from the shadows of the forest)
Mr Puzzles: You guys just had to ruin my fun... You all made me look like a fool... Well, I promise I will show you what happens when you mess with Mr Puzzles...
(Mr Puzzles pulls out pieces of paper)
Mr Puzzles: And for my audience, I shall perform a trick no villain has ever done before... Reviving the dead!
(Mr Puzzles looks to the viewers)
Mr Puzzles: Cliche, I know, but I wanted to make sure this is a good show!
(Mr Puzzles throws the pieces of paper onto the ground. On them, we see photos of some of the old villains. Dramatic music plays as we see hands emerging from the photos before Mr Puzzles laughs...)
(Later, Mr Puzzles is now near where the castle once stood with a smirk on his face)
Mr Puzzles: To show them that this revenge is personal, I shall bring forth a forgotten friend they left!
(With his powers, Mr Puzzles brings the castle back from the ground as we hear the familiar screeches of the now mutated Peach. She emerges from the castle before trying to strike at the TV entity. Mr Puzzles suddenly snaps his fingers, causing Peach to suddenly stop and sit like a dog)
Mr Puzzles: Peach, Peach... Been a while since you've appeared! Just look at you! You've changed so much!
(Peach begins to growl a bit at that last statement before Mr Puzzles reassures her)
Mr Puzzles: Now now Peach, I know you want to protect you castle, but believe me, I'm not interested in stealing it. In fact, I came here to offer you... a deal...
(Peach moves her head in curiosity)
Mr Puzzles: I'm sure you remembered how that blasted SMG4 and his crew not only blew up your castle, but left you to die... They replaced you... With Meggy, that blasted spotlight stealer! (His face shifts into a grin) I know we both hate SMG4 for ruining our lives, so that's why I propose an... opportunity.
Mr Puzzles: I want you to spread your goop across the kingdom, show the world what happens when they mess with you Peach!
(Peach is smirking or at least something close to it)
Mr Puzzles: Help succeed in me taking down SMG4 and his band of brats, not only will I help revert you to normal, but your castle will be brought to life... Fail me again and not only will you be stuck like this... Not only will you remain a hideous monster, but I will turn your kingdom into a bigger hellscape... I want you to capture the crew and destroy anything that stands in your way... Am I clear?
(Peach smirks as she stomps off. Mr Puzzles turns to see photos of Desti, Axol, and Spudnik before giving off a sadistic smirk)
Mr Puzzles: You know, such a shame you three had to be destroyed... I'm sure you all would have liked to stare in my show... I actually hold no ill will or grudges against you three... Even if I was indirectly involved in your deaths... (He laughs in a creepily calm manner before walking off)
What do you think of this script?
Nah, I think Meggy might die. Not only is she overused, but what is there left to do with our former inkling girl? She has went through so much character development that there's really nothing they can do. The only other way she might be used after Mr Puzzles is defeated is if sunset paradise season 2 happens which is unlikely. Plus, it's time we get some other characters a day in the limelight which is why I think Meggy might die in the next arc. Meggy has been milked so much that her character has become the equivalent of stale popcorn.
Kevin and Luke probably might realize this too since they want to be more experimental with their stories
Unrelated, but here's an idea for next week's episode.
After the crew end up intentionally causing destruction from the arc villains they faced, Everyone associated with the glitchy crew are forced to go to therapy. It's here that their client tells them that the problem they have is that the crew don't act like 'normal' people which Meggy asks what he means by that. The client explains how the crew see themselves as these intense anime heroes rather than fun loving friends who hang out which causes the crew to be offended. So, SMG4 and his friends are forced to give up their hero lifestyles and powers to live like 'normal' people, but it isn't as fun as it turns out to be (When Meggy is cornered by a bunch of bullies without her splatgun, she is mauled to death. Melony tries to use her fierce deity powers to destroy someone mocking her journal, but she doesn't succeed. SMG3 notices a truck full of money and attempts to use his hands to 'pause' but he ends up failing in an epic manner). Of course, hearing that the crew are now powerless, the villains begin wreaking havoc onto the mushroom kingdom and the therapist realizes the crew need their powers to save the day.
This is meant to be a commentary on how the episodes shifted from fun simple bloopers to action/drama stories (Not that I hate the new direction the series is going, but I figured this could be a fun episode idea). Of course, it's also a typical 'be yourself' story where the crew realize that even if they aren't really 'normal', they shouldn't act like people they aren't.
@@benbarnett5743 hang on I’ve seen you before
@@jockson7574 Well, I do watch a lot of SMG4 videos and love to analyze them. One thing I find surprising is the fact that the mushroom kingdom doesn't seem to be in shambles after what happened to Peach.
Now what about depresso? Why didn’t he appear in the movie?
First, I’m not a big fan of the government
we need a puzzlevision gmod model soon
Maybe when the next arc comes see something about that door. But Right Now I am in desperate need of a Peach Arc. Who's with Me?
I know y’all probably think I’m obsessed with this, and I probably am, but… anti-Shroomy vs demon peach arc, come on, the pieces are in such a perfect place for that. I sincerely hope that’s something SMG4 plans to do later on
Another theory I have is that there’s a power vacuum in the mushroom kingdom, which may cause a power hungry kingdom to decide that it’s up for grabs. I mean, said kingdom IS come to the avatar and both super meme guardians, that kind of power would be kinda cool to have
Yeah true with peach and the castle gone the mushroom kingdom and its government is falling apart
I thought of a mini arc. With Peach and the castle gone, the mushroom kingdom is now in shambles with riots happening in the streets and the police unable to quell it down (Not that the police saw it as a big issue since before IGTBP, they were focused more on making laws on toilets for some reason. The police do plan on pinning the blame onto the crew). Wanting to prevent the riots from getting worse, the crew head down to try and calm them down. Will they succeed in stopping the riots or will the mushroom kingdom be plagued with chaos? Of course, Mr Puzzles (who survived) plans on making a show out of this by manipulating events.
So, the characters that go down to stop the riot are Mario, Luigi, Meggy, Tari, Saiko, SMG4, SMG3, Melony, SMG1, and SMG2. They have Boopkins and Bob stay behind to watch over the inkling kid seen in WS. Later on, Kaizo and the anti cast join the crew to stop the riots as well.
What do you think of this? Any criticisms are welcome.
@@benbarnett5743I feel like some of the characters you listed like Kaizo and Mario would join in on the chaos rather than try to stop it, which would be funnier tbh. Otherwise good theory
@@SMM5 Episode 2:
(Mario and Luigi are driving to the showgrounds to reconvene with their friends)
Luigi: Mario, what is happening?!
(Of course, Mario isn't phased in the slightest)
Mario: Eh, nothing out of the ordinary! Everything looked fine in the mushroom kingdom!
(As they drive, Mario is completely oblivious to the fistfights, witch hunts, and riots happening. For Mario, this is just an average day in the world of SMG4)
Luigi: Well, I'm just surprised it took this long for the kingdom to fall into anarchy! We should make sure the crew are safe!
Mario: Alright! (Thrusts the car into full gear) HERE WE GOOOO!
(Back at the showgrounds, we see the others doing various fun activities. SMG4 is preparing for his new futures arcs, SMG3 is hanging out with Eggdog, SMG1/SMG2 were practicing meme energy, Tari and Meggy were playing Smash Ultimate, and Melony was fast asleep)
(In their game of Smash, Tari is beating Meggy after 6 matches. Meggy throws her controller in the background)
Meggy: UGH, HOW CAN I LOSE TO YOU?!
Tari: Well, I am just naturally experienced with games. Either way, you still did good!
Meggy: Oh yeah, how about you compete against her! (Meggy points to Saiko)
Tari: Please, she is no match for me at any game!
Saiko: How about guitar player?! I can beat you at that!
Tari: You're on!
SMG1: Hey, would you girls be quiet?! Me and 2 are trying to master new meme energy!
(SMG1 and 2 are using meme energy to bring life to a ragdoll. They succeed and congratulate each other)
SMG2: Man, feels like it's been forever since we've done something! (SMG3 4 walks in)
SMG3: Yeah no kidding, you two have been literal ghosts for a bit!
(Downstairs, back with the girls, we see the inkling from the end of WS appear)
Meggy: Let's not fight in front of little inky here! You know, I still am trying to figure out a good name.
SMG4: How about Linda?
Meggy: That's an old lady's name! I was thinking Elsie would be a fitting name!
Melony: Yeah Elsie! Has a nice ring to it!
Elsie: So, I have a name now? No one's ever given me a name!
Meggy: Welcome to the crew Linda!
(Suddenly, Mario and Luigi burst into the showgrounds in their kart, causing a massive hole in the walls. Everyone comes running to the scene)
Meggy: MARIO! WE JUST HAD THAT WALL FIXED!
Melony: (Comes to see if they're alive and is thankful that they are still breathing) What do you think they were doing?
SMG3: Probably here to cause chaos.
Tari: But I don't think Luigi would go along with it.
Meggy: Well, this wouldn't be the first time they destroyed the castle...
(Saiko suddenly comes up to explain to them what the context is)
Saiko: It's probably those riots happening in the mushroom kingdom. (Everyone seems confused by what she was saying) You all seriously haven't seen the news? Karen, turn the news on!
Karen: Got it! (Karen turns the news onto a special report)
Kermit: (on the TV) Breaking news! The mushroom kingdom has been in total shambles ever since the dehtorning of Peach! Riots are breaking out into the city with seemingly no end to the chaos! (Footage shows tons of fistfights, witch hunts, and chaos happening in the streets)
Karen: These riots have been going on all day. I'm just surprised they didn't happen until now!
(As Karen shows them the footage, she explains how law enforcement hasn't really been successful at quelling the situation)
Meggy: Why something like this didn't happen until now is beyond me.
(Everyone was disturbed by the footage of destruction, but SMG4 was feeling nothing but paranoia. He knew that, since he was the one that sunk Peach's castle, if the world were to find out, the entire glitchy crew would be next. Thankfully, the showgrounds was off the radar, but he wasn't sure how long that would last)
Tari: Shouldn't we do something? We can't just let those citizens destroy each other!
(SMG1 steps up with 2 to break the silence)
SMG1: Tari has a valid point. Without a leader, the police and military aren't gonna be much help.
(Mario and Luigi suddenly wake up with Luigi about to explain the scenario)
Luigi: Oh hey guys! We just wanted to tell you guys about the riots and- (Notices the TV displaying the news) Oh. Never mind.
Mario: (Wakes up and notices his spaghetti is gone) MY SPAGHETTI! NO!
(Saiko runs over to shut him up)
Saiko: PUT A SOCK IN IT!
Meggy: Yeah Luigi, we are deciding to try and help solve the problem before it gets worse. We don't have a plan yet but we're coming up with one.
SMG4: Alright, so here's my plan, we'll-
(Mario cuts him off)
Mario: We'll join the riots!
(Meggy slaps Mario)
Meggy: No! We need to stop these riots!
Mario: Ah, you guys are no fun!
SMG4: Alright, as I was saying, with Peach... uh... out of the office... the people won't be calmed down easily. So we'll need to find a new ruler.
Mario: Can I be the new ruler
Everyone: (In unison) NO!
Mario: Why not?
SMG4: Last time, you became dictator that reshaped the kingdom in your image!
Mario: Why do you guys ruin my fun?!
Melony: Well, the question is now how we find a new ruler
SMG1: Excellent question Meggy. That brings us to our next point. Toadsworth.
SMG2: Being Peach's steward, surely he must be able to rule in his stead or at least find someone who can rule the kingdom as good as Peach.
SMG3: That old guy? Nah. Why don't I rule the kingdom?
Saiko: YOU'D BE WORSE THAN MARIO!
SMG3: How could I be worse than that dumba- (Stops when he notices Linda is around) Sorry.
SMG4: Ok, before we all start fighting, how about this. We'll split up into teams. Mario, Karen, Melony, Tari, Saiko, and Meggy, you five will be tasked with keeping the riots under control. SMG1, SMG2, Luigi, Tari, SMG3, and myself will go and find Toadsworth to find a replacement princess.
Everyone: Got it!
Meggy: Wait! Wait about Elsie?
SMG4: Oh right, Elsie. Anyone want to babysit her? (On cue, Bob and Boopkins walk into the castle)
Boopkins: Hey guys, what are you all doing?
Mario: Just about to join some riots.
(Meggy slaps Mario)
Meggy: No, we're about to save the world and stop the riots.
Bob: Oh yeah, me and Boopkins just got back from the city.
Boopkins: Yeah... to say it's not in the best shape is an understatement.
SMG4: Well, would you guys be kind enough to care for Elsie here?
Bob: Who's that?
Meggy: The inkling I trained after we escaped Wren's simulation.
Bob: Oh right! Yeah, me and Boopkins can totally do it!
Boopkins: Yeah, we'll watch anime and play board games! It'll be fun!
Meggy: Alright! (Is about to walk off before she sternly looks at Bob) Oh and please don't swear in front of Elsie? (Her face goes back to a cheerful one) Alright, we're off to save the world! (The groups walk off to do their usual thing of saving the mushroom kingdom)
No Null read the chat on the Machroma stream and said “let me cook”
Jesus that scared me at the end
My headcanon (that I've had since Western Spaghetti) is that Mr Puzzles is an Alternate version of Dr Sheridan from Meta Runner, as they are both sociopaths with cybernetic enhancements and reality-bending technology, and want to put everyone in a digital world where they are god.
I think it would be cool of Mr. Puzzles comes back and actually joins the cast and help SMG4 make his videos. Perhaps he can live in the castle in either one of the yet to be finished rooms, or inside the boarded up room.
I dont like jumpscares at the end
End of video:
casually, realizing clench might somehow be able to cause Mr. puzzle to malfunction when he tried to shoot Mario
might be because Mario broke his screen, but if you really think about it, he was able to shoot Luigi at one part
I'll never watch SMG4 again. Although these unanswered mysteries are tempting the hell out of me. 😵
By the way, nice ending you made with that jumpscare.
FIRST TIME BEING UNDER A HOUR :D 🎉
Me still waiting for the upstairs of Showgrounds to be revealed: ☠️
He said clench will save the boys from mr.puzzles and he never appeared maybe since it was offline from power outage he didnt apeeared in the show or watched but the theory can be easily debunked bcs mario was watching tv in light off so the power was on
It was just the lights