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  • čas přidán 8. 01. 2024
  • Elliotte Friedman joins Jeff Marek to discuss what potentially led to the Flyers trading away their top prospect.
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Komentáře • 142

  • @john60123
    @john60123 Před 5 měsíci +7

    The man Lindros didn't want to play for Quebec. The Flyers pick up a leader and a great player. So who knows what will happen, it may be a blessing for the Flyers.

    • @mikecolangelo4895
      @mikecolangelo4895 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Eric Lindros was the WORST thing that EVER happened to the Flyers . He cost the 3 first round draft picks , not to mention Peter Forsberg , their best two defensemen in Steve Duchesne and Kerry Huffman .and Mike Ricci , plus 15 million dollars ! Peter Forsberg ALONE was better than Eric Lindros plus they gave up the rest listed above . Eric NEVER came through when the money was on the line NEVER ! He was a locker room cancer to boot . By the way that trade won the Nordiques ? Avalanche two Stanley Cups . He was the most OVERRATED hockey player in history !

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@mikecolangelo4895Sure bud 🤡🤡🤡

  • @straightcashhomey1261
    @straightcashhomey1261 Před 5 měsíci +31

    Another example of Elliott taking everyone else’s information, presenting it with conviction like he had some kind of inside track, and then insinuating he broke a story. He’s like a comedian that steals jokes but changes the variables

    • @Gx22
      @Gx22 Před 5 měsíci

      Cutter, bro, everyone hates you just own it no need for burners.

    • @user-nr8vj3qf5l
      @user-nr8vj3qf5l Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah like the gm or owner is going to call him up and tell him otherwise.

    • @royjonzejr
      @royjonzejr Před 5 měsíci +3

      Err he's an insider. That's what insiders do. They have sources and they present information based off those sources.

    • @johnrwalker53
      @johnrwalker53 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Elliot knows a hell of a lot more than you homey.

    • @natfazio2190
      @natfazio2190 Před 4 měsíci

      Elliott, simply stated that unless there are definitive discussions. Folks are going to assume that it was, or is Tortorella related. That was clearly stated, did you miss hearing that????.
      I'm not a Flyers fan, but on hearing the Cutter situation, my first thought was "Tortorella". Heck he's a tough guy to like, much like iron Mike Keenan he has a limited shelf life. Especially with the new modern athletes. But overall I think that the Flyers management solution is correct and proper. Just saying.

  • @OvieSnips8
    @OvieSnips8 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Bridges get burned everyday. This isn't new. It's really funny to see a teenager making people so pressed lol. Just relax people.

    • @alelectric2767
      @alelectric2767 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Exactly!

    • @MikeLit2
      @MikeLit2 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I don’t blame the kid for not wanting to sign. As you see flyers fans are toxic and trashy

    • @Leroy-df3ee
      @Leroy-df3ee Před 5 měsíci

      The league won't last long if prima donnas like this start taking over the game. It renders the draft meaningless.

  • @Joeblow12349
    @Joeblow12349 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Nice STORY Friedman

  • @seedofwonder
    @seedofwonder Před 5 měsíci +10

    "not received the way it was intended" - I mean, or received that way. If Gauthier's NHL career was postponed a year because of Philly's cap management, then good intentions aren't a consolation prize. I'm not saying he's ready for the bigs, but if they don't sign one of their best prospects, it's on them.

  • @redfive5856
    @redfive5856 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sung to "Strutter" by Kiss:
    I know a thing or two about him
    I know he'll only make Flyers cry
    He'll let you draft him high
    But when he wants he'll pass them by
    Everybody says he plays real good
    And the Ducks know it's understood
    CUTTER!

    • @kevinkline7242
      @kevinkline7242 Před 3 měsíci

      Kiss is a bunch of no talent crossdressers . They are consistent in that all of their songs suck.

  • @gary1625
    @gary1625 Před 5 měsíci +5

    One big nothing burger! So what? Guy doesn’t want to play for Philadelphia. Who can blame him? The Flyers & their fans will live.

    • @johnrwalker53
      @johnrwalker53 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Most players don't want to play for Philly.It's why they've been rebuilding for many years.

    • @Leroy-df3ee
      @Leroy-df3ee Před 5 měsíci

      The NHL might not live though. May as well just eliminate the draft.

  • @Whatisahandlehuh
    @Whatisahandlehuh Před 5 měsíci +17

    As a flyers fan I rather have done what we did - much prefer cutter to speak up now then in year demand a trade while his ceiling may not be as high. Good riddance and good luck. Happy with the return man.

    • @valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556
      @valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Cutter seems like a soft boy thats why he wanted to get into the soft and relaxing environment in Anaheim :DD. He wants nothing to do with Tortorella or the flyers.

    • @2Jim2u
      @2Jim2u Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 ?? Don't know where you got this from? He's changed his own game. At Worlds, he handled faceoffs and had won 72/117 for Team USA. He turned from volume of shots to handling more f/offs.

    • @ctaylor8003
      @ctaylor8003 Před 5 měsíci

      @@2Jim2u He pulled it out of his ass that's where. The guy never put pen to paper so you never had him. It's that simple

    • @JNJ1014
      @JNJ1014 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556Have you watched the kid at BC & WJC?
      The only 2 players who play remotely as "heavy" as Gauthier are Ryan Leonard & Rutger McGroarty.
      Say what you want about Gauthier bc you're mad he forced his way out, but the kid is FAR from soft & he would have been an ALL TIME Tortorella FAVORITE.

    • @Matthew-cw3gn
      @Matthew-cw3gn Před 5 měsíci +3

      This is the right attitude to have. You don't want players on the roster who don't want to be there. Way more fun when you know the players feel attachment to the franchise.

  • @hkbergdahl1853
    @hkbergdahl1853 Před 5 měsíci +13

    Cutter's dad was a very popular player in Sweden with both his teammates and fans and nothing I've seen about his son makes think he's a bad person or anything... good luck in Anaheim

    • @user-nr8vj3qf5l
      @user-nr8vj3qf5l Před 5 měsíci +1

      They need more teams in Cali so players can lay in the sun.

  • @97Jam
    @97Jam Před 5 měsíci +4

    Your top prospect in College is asking to sign a contract - you give him a contract. Sorry we don’t want you around because of a minuscule cap penalty next year that we can easily absorb. Flyers had 3 Mil in cap space before the drysdale trade.

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus Před 3 měsíci

      He wasn't ready for the NHL. He would have failed if he came when he wanted to.

    • @97Jam
      @97Jam Před 3 měsíci

      ⁠@@MrBeenushe would’ve failed? We’re talking April 2023, the last week or two of a failed season. Get him with the coaching staff, a taste of pro hockey and then play in the AHL if he proves not to be ready for NHL. Certainly a better outcome than having to trade him.

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus Před 3 měsíci

      @@97Jam No it's not. He's obviously very immature and would've probably been like PLD. Getting Jamie Drysdale was a great move as he is already our best defenseman.

  • @billblake9665
    @billblake9665 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Flyers will have michkov here in a few years they will sign a big name fa power forward who will want to play here and help him win a cup........flyers also have a boatload of draft picks in the next few years from good trades made in the last year. Flyers are on the way up
    bank on it

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus Před 3 měsíci +2

      Cutter is gonna regret not signing with us.

    • @joetamburello6292
      @joetamburello6292 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MrBeenus 😂

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus Před 3 měsíci

      @@joetamburello6292 He's going to when we win a cup before Anaheim.

    • @joetamburello6292
      @joetamburello6292 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MrBeenus 😂

    • @MrBeenus
      @MrBeenus Před 3 měsíci

      @@joetamburello6292 Get your laughs in while you can. I'm gonna screenshot this and come back to it in a couple years.

  • @ML-my8qq
    @ML-my8qq Před 5 měsíci +4

    The up and coming US players are starting to look like the up and coming Russian players of the early 2000s

    • @HarrisonHollers
      @HarrisonHollers Před 5 měsíci

      ??

    • @Leroy-df3ee
      @Leroy-df3ee Před 5 měsíci +1

      US players are looking like the prima donnas we see in other sports. They have been coddled much of their hockey lives.

  • @ShawnProctor1
    @ShawnProctor1 Před 5 měsíci +8

    This "insider" take is full of nothing. Summary without the floundering and repeated phrases: "until I'm told what happened, I'm choose to believe he asked for assurances about making the team and didn't get them." So, do you know ANYTHING?
    Also, that barely counts as miscommunication compared to Lindros and his father at the end of their time with the team.

    • @floxy20
      @floxy20 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Sports journalists are the worst. They are just fan boys without a smidgen of curiosity.

    • @siegessaule
      @siegessaule Před 5 měsíci +2

      You just have to read between the lines: I think the cap space thing is just an excuse to save face: their recent 5th overall wanted to sign with them but they didn't think he was ready. Then Kevin Hayes told him what it was like to be in Torts' doghouse.

  • @martinprice9441
    @martinprice9441 Před 5 měsíci

    Maybe he saw the rioting & looting that wasn't prosecuted in Philly over the summer and thought it would be best to play and live somewhere else. OC is not far from LA which would be similar to Philly but, things are different in OC where the Ducks practice and training facilty is in Irvine

  • @ryancoyte702
    @ryancoyte702 Před 5 měsíci

    I would just say you never know what non-hockey issues might have led to the trade demand.

  • @SurfinCowboy5615
    @SurfinCowboy5615 Před 5 měsíci +6

    It’s no coincidence that no good players want to play for Tortorella. He’s an archaic coach whose style is counter productive to players looking to become elite. If you want to be diving in front of pucks and never go far in the playoffs if you even make them, he’s your coach.

    • @7jcjg
      @7jcjg Před 5 měsíci +1

      he also defended a homophobic player just last season who refused to participate in pride events, some ppl have lgbtq family. there are personal reason this could happen too, i would not be surprised in the least.

    • @dobbingo9313
      @dobbingo9313 Před 5 měsíci

      Bingo

  • @user-by3nd4rm6c
    @user-by3nd4rm6c Před 5 měsíci

    If Gauthier is getting butthurt over a franchise being mindful of their salary cap picture, is that not enough of a red flag? I'm not sure I want anyone who exudes that level of entitlement in any organization that I run

  • @jdbankshot
    @jdbankshot Před 5 měsíci +1

    this kid is going to be the next alexander galchenyuk.

  • @Matthew-cw3gn
    @Matthew-cw3gn Před 5 měsíci +15

    Briere said that Gauthier changed his mind two months after being drafted, which coincides with when Tortorella was hired. Since the lockout, Tortorella has coached like 15 seasons of hockey. During that time, the only rookie forwards who developed into top 6ers under his watch were Chris Kreider and Derek Stepan.
    Cutter is looking out for his own career instead of being a martyr, which top picks are routinely pressured into being.

    • @TMLJunK
      @TMLJunK Před 5 měsíci +12

      B Richards, V Lecavalier, M St Louis, F Modin. I guess you didn't watch the early 2000s TBL.

    • @SurfinCowboy5615
      @SurfinCowboy5615 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ⁠@@TMLJunKlooks like you don’t realize that style of hockey that worked 20 years ago doesn’t work anymore.

    • @TMLJunK
      @TMLJunK Před 5 měsíci +11

      @@SurfinCowboy5615 The OP's broad statement about Torts not being able to develop top 6 forwards was ridiculous, so I felt like pointing a few things out. Also, Torts has been developing top 6 forwards at pretty much every team he's gone to. Callahan, Anisimov, Stepan, Hagelin, Wennberg, Josh Anderson, Bjorkstrand, Jenner, etc.

    • @boganjesus3277
      @boganjesus3277 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@TMLJunKbingo

    • @SurfinCowboy5615
      @SurfinCowboy5615 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ⁠@@TMLJunK​​⁠literally the only player you named that was a true top 6 forward was Stepan. You’re coming off as a guy that wants to sleep with Tortorella. Bro named a bunch of low 30-40 point scorers that are mostly 3rd line grinders and claimed they are top 6 forwards Tortorella developed.

  • @Uuusssaaas
    @Uuusssaaas Před 5 měsíci +11

    Even people who live in Philly don't want to live in Philly.

    • @AttilatheThrilla
      @AttilatheThrilla Před 5 měsíci +1

      I thought It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia!!

    • @christopherblake7745
      @christopherblake7745 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It’s a great city to visit but I prefer to live in rural PA and cheer on my Flyers from my family room.

    • @johnrwalker53
      @johnrwalker53 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Isn't Kensington one of the better parts of Philly?@@AttilatheThrilla

    • @MikeLit2
      @MikeLit2 Před 5 měsíci

      Philthadelphia

  • @jamesmoyes3006
    @jamesmoyes3006 Před 5 měsíci

    All I can say is not a good way to start a career. ask Eric Lindros you carry it forever

  • @javedsukhram4033
    @javedsukhram4033 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I don't get this

  • @jimclark7917
    @jimclark7917 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Who cares. He can say what he wants

  • @Hereatthebeach2018
    @Hereatthebeach2018 Před 5 měsíci

    Nope sorry I live your scoop but I’m flyers fan, he wants to show off and Philly is a grind em team no Michigan’s here. It’s just the kids now coming up they all want to show off ever since Mc David cane that’s it the new stile for the #1 picks anyway

  • @PhynTrickSnipin
    @PhynTrickSnipin Před 5 měsíci

    Screw Philly ! Good Luck Cutter 🇺🇸🦅

  • @davewilson3113
    @davewilson3113 Před 5 měsíci

    The guy sounds like he's got some quit in him. Maybe I'm wrong.

  • @kevinward5119
    @kevinward5119 Před 5 měsíci

    Move over JD Drew!

  • @Hereatthebeach2018
    @Hereatthebeach2018 Před 5 měsíci

    I know junior players there heads are clubs, chicks, show off in games it’s all bout that now only reason he wants to be in Anaheim

  • @jdbankshot
    @jdbankshot Před 5 měsíci +1

    ok, you freakin' geniuses, it's so incredibly simple... cutter gauthier is a lil' c-word. end of story.

  • @Netcentric-fk6ek
    @Netcentric-fk6ek Před 5 měsíci

    meh, maybe he just wants to show his leadership in the primadonna ranks of the nhl.
    He sounds like a noload before he's played game 1

  • @Hereatthebeach2018
    @Hereatthebeach2018 Před 5 měsíci

    Look cutter wants to be seen showboating like the ducks love that stuff Philly is not a showboat team cutter wants to Michigan in every game. It’s new nhl showboating

  • @audibletapehiss3764
    @audibletapehiss3764 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Other reports say that the Flyers wanted him to turn pro at that time, and he did not.

    • @7jcjg
      @7jcjg Před 5 měsíci +2

      that is nonsense. they refused to sign him to his entry level and he didn't want to return to college, wtf are you talking about??

    • @audibletapehiss3764
      @audibletapehiss3764 Před 5 měsíci

      @@7jcjg Simply restating what other sources (Kevin Kurz, The Athletic's Flyers beat writer) reported earlier, Mrs. Gauthier. I'm sure your son is a great kid. Here's the quote --------
      "The Flyers had engaged in early contract talks with Gauthier’s camp after his freshman season at Boston College and were prepared to sign Gauthier as far back as May 2023, after he impressed at the IIHF World Championships in Finland and Latvia for Team USA. Gauthier posted seven goals and nine points in 10 games in the tournament, and after watching him play, the Flyers believed Gauthier might be closer to being NHL-ready than they originally anticipated. They were ready to intensify talks about a contract."
      That's wtf I'm talking about, you clown. Next time get your own subscription.

    • @audibletapehiss3764
      @audibletapehiss3764 Před 5 měsíci

      @@7jcjg It has not been proven in any way shape or form that he shut them out over his ELC. It's actually quite a bit more likely that he had a bad experience with someone in the organization and doesn't want it made public. But feel free to take speculation as fact.

    • @audibletapehiss3764
      @audibletapehiss3764 Před 5 měsíci

      @@7jcjg They took down my other post (in which I provided quotes and ripped you mercilessly), but suffice it to say, I was simply referring to an article written by the Flyers beat writer.

  • @2Jim2u
    @2Jim2u Před 5 měsíci

    Mr Marek, I'm kind of surprised that the Flyers only got Drysdale and a Second round draft for him, if it says anything. Flyers should have had a look at prospects that could have helped Flyers, coming back. I'm hoping Gaucher, and others, start getting seen.

    • @plrt6794
      @plrt6794 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Drysdale was very highly rated in his draft year, he’s had some injuries but if he gains the form expected of him the trade could be a wash.

    • @jeffreym.8957
      @jeffreym.8957 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@plrt6794 Plus Anaheim was defense-heavy in prospects.

    • @2Jim2u
      @2Jim2u Před 5 měsíci

      @@Kokobazonkos nope, not me. I hope Gauthier lights it up in Anaheim, but I hope some of their top young talent in San Diego can find new homes, if they're not given a chance to light it up in Anaheim, right. 1st round prospects just sitting in San Diego because of lineup card in NHL.

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g Před 5 měsíci +7

    We'll see if Anaheim meets his highness' royal standards.

    • @john60123
      @john60123 Před 5 měsíci +2

      The man Lindros didn't want to play for Quebec. The Flyers pick up a leader and a great player. So who knows what will happen, it may be a blessing for the Flyers.

  • @tafaro9935
    @tafaro9935 Před 5 měsíci +2

    let’s be honest , who would want to play there? toxic all around

  • @tonyguerrier2258
    @tonyguerrier2258 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Who cares, let the kiddo pout and play somewhere else. Good luck to ya sparky. Move on folks

  • @mikejames5546
    @mikejames5546 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm a die hard Avs fan, if I was drafted by them (Avalanche) and Torts was the coach I think I'd rather play for Buffalo.

  • @shirleydaley5335
    @shirleydaley5335 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Elliot stop talking like a creepy guy looking in people's bedroom Windows, Man this guy is creepy

  • @MotoTavira
    @MotoTavira Před 5 měsíci +1

    Baby refusing to meet or communicate...waaaaaaah. Pacifiers will be at the ready when he comes to Philly...lol.

  • @JNJ1014
    @JNJ1014 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm not a Flyers fan but I can't fault any player for doing what they think is best for their career, given how short the career window.
    But I gotta say, even as a Rangers/Panthers fan, I was excited to see Michkov & Gauthier bully the Eastern Conference for the next 10 years.
    (Yes I know it's a weird team mix lol, I'm a mid-30s former NYer who moved to Ft. Lauderdale for good in 2022)

    • @Leroy-df3ee
      @Leroy-df3ee Před 5 měsíci

      The NHL may as well just eliminate then draft then if players are going to dictate where they play.

  • @codedecode878
    @codedecode878 Před 5 měsíci

    very Lindrosian move! doesn't reflect well on him

  • @richardenriquez8449
    @richardenriquez8449 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Man, Drysdale is going to be a 10 year top 4 defenseman in the league. Great trade by Philly for someone that wants to be a FLYER.

    • @jeffreym.8957
      @jeffreym.8957 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Has Drysdale said he wants to be a FLYER? Maybe he liked being a DUCK?

    • @richardenriquez8449
      @richardenriquez8449 Před 5 měsíci

      Fair point. It sounded like Cutter definitely did NOT want to be a Flyer. Wish both the best.

  • @AttilatheThrilla
    @AttilatheThrilla Před 5 měsíci

    Could the Oilers somehow scoop this kid up??

    • @clarkesuperman
      @clarkesuperman Před 5 měsíci +2

      Ask Anaheim Ducks they traded Drysdale for him today

    • @jeffreym.8957
      @jeffreym.8957 Před 5 měsíci

      Why would he want to come to the frozen tundra of Northern Canada?

  • @michaels2502
    @michaels2502 Před 5 měsíci

    Maybe Fletcher should have tried harder to sell JVR at the deadline.

  • @ml6941
    @ml6941 Před 5 měsíci

    Ducks paid waaaaayyy too much. Also if sports history proves one thing over and over again - it's "Don't bring a head-case into your locker room". Now, just watch. He'll be a nightmare for the Ducks, and may tell Verbeek he's staying in Uni and will pursue free agency.

    • @supercooled
      @supercooled Před 5 měsíci

      Baseless and completely fabricated nonsense.

    • @matthewkabel6246
      @matthewkabel6246 Před 4 měsíci

      That's not gonna happen, he's signing after his college season

  • @MFREN_BRZ09
    @MFREN_BRZ09 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Overrated anyways

    • @user-by3nd4rm6c
      @user-by3nd4rm6c Před 5 měsíci

      Never know, you might be eating those words one day

  • @edrobinson998
    @edrobinson998 Před 5 měsíci +1

    He’s an American no wonder

    • @johnrwalker53
      @johnrwalker53 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah Americans just won the Juniors tournament Dumbo.

    • @edrobinson998
      @edrobinson998 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@johnrwalker53 once in what 20 years

    • @redfordreddington8834
      @redfordreddington8834 Před 5 měsíci

      No. ​@@edrobinson998

    • @user-by3nd4rm6c
      @user-by3nd4rm6c Před 5 měsíci

      Hey, Alex Kerfoot didn't sign with New Jersey, Ryan Graves didn't sign with NY Rangers, Zach Hyman didn't sign with Florida

  • @pete5534
    @pete5534 Před 5 měsíci +1

    He’s one player… move on.

  • @neilm2794
    @neilm2794 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I heard that Kevin Hayes got in his ear. Hayes is an overpaid loafer, so I wouldn't be surprised. Either way, a 19 year old doesn't get to call the shots unless he's a generational prospect. This kid has a big head and a soft psyche. He'll do better in Disneyland with Mickey Mouse -- Philly would have chewed him up when he failed to perform. Hopefully Drysdale is a keeper

    • @tonybleau6219
      @tonybleau6219 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Don't be dumb. Hayes has nothing to do with it.

  • @user-lc1hj6el1s
    @user-lc1hj6el1s Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wishing the man a long daigle career, so soft from him. Bad mark in your character

  • @dickMFcheney
    @dickMFcheney Před 5 měsíci +7

    Is it possible he didn’t want to have anything to do with John tortorella? Any sane person wouldn’t.

    • @boomer1049
      @boomer1049 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah if you're soft! But Cam Atkinson and TK love him! If you are a hard worker you will love him!

    • @rv2167
      @rv2167 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Torts is a horrendous hypocrite. He has no integrity and is hard to take seriously.

    • @basilmcdonnell9807
      @basilmcdonnell9807 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Like him or hate him (and I live in Vancouver) he's worked a miracle with this team.

    • @jeffreym.8957
      @jeffreym.8957 Před 5 měsíci

      @@basilmcdonnell9807Yes. He has done extremely well in several places - despite him being a total DB. In fact, his success spurs others on to act like DB's in a misguided attempt to have similar success.