Chet Holmgren Scouting Report | 2022 NBA Draft Breakdowns
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Chet Holmgren is one of the most unique but increasingly polarizing prospects we've seen. At 7 foot with terrific defensive capabilities and tantilizing offensive upside, he's put himself in the #1 pick conversation despite still being under 200 pounds.
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For a player whose weakness is only his weight/strength, along with ball control and playmaking which isn't at all expected from an NBA big man especially that young, he is special
Crazy how this comment mentions ball control and play making then the very next year we see Wemby who is basically a taller/bigger more mobile and better handles version of Chet who’s already special 😅
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I think this is good analysis. You can bank on Chet as a great defender and shooter. Whether he’ll be a star will depend on his ability to score in volume. I think he’s a safe prospect
Great Video! The fact that you alluded the Cavs vs Sixers game to show how inadequacies in his frame can be adjusted for in the NBA is extremely diligent and shows how comprehensive and far this breakdown goes. I'm a big fan!
One thing I noticed bout his defense is that his hands are consistently raised and with that reach it makes him very effective in the perimeter
You're the best man. I don't come here to criticize but at 9:45 there is a repetition of some film from earlier in the analysis. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks man....I am in South Korea and don't get to see much college hoops live so I rely on your videos to tell me about the upcoming pros.
Guys with this kind of skillset won't fail in the NBA. He does need to get bigger and stronger but theres so much spacing and pace in today's game that I think he'd do just fine
Yeah but we've seen other players of his size at center fail to bulk up. I'm scared he'd get bullied down low and on offense if he can't bulk up
@@butterxo3094 yup people sayin it’s a givin that he’ll bulk up but we’ll see
I mean but also teams are going to schematically put him against bigger guys for post up opportunities, I just think his weaknesses will really show for the first couple years with him
Give him 2 years in the NBA to muscle up before he truly becomes something special. He’s too tough and too competitive though, to not be a winning basketball player from day 1. Whichever team passes on him will be making a mistake. I like Jabari Smith a lot but this guy’s ceiling seems much more likely to be obtained. Character Traits and Fundamentals are fantastic as well.
Why is everyone so obsessed and so worried about him bulking up?? If that's his main issue, then he is a lock at #1. Gaining strength can be addressed over time without much issue
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Instant NBA Street Vol 2 memories. Thanks for that
Your videos are so in depth. I love it
Had to sub big dawg. Was going through your 2024 prospect videos and noticed that I’ve watched your videos before every draft since 2021🤝🏾
You’re incredibly talented man! Awesome breakdown!
great breakdown and content. appreciate the effort.
Chet has to good of a game to be a complete bust in the NBA imo. He’s gonna add weight as he gets older everybody does it just might take some time.
You do the best player breakdowns on CZcams very professional.
I think it will really be hard for him to get used to the way more physical nba players. He looks like a stick and need to add at least 40 lbs of more mass. But i see why hes so high on most mock draft he is really a good prospect to be a Solid nba player in near future
But putting on weight is also a myth, this was a HUGE topic of debate when KD came into the league, and it kind of effected his game his first year, still averaged 20, and by his 3rd or 4th year was scoring champion Without addressing that “weakness”… shit 15 years later he has the same “weakness” and is one of the greatest scorers ever. There have been quite a few players throughout the years that came in underweight and still became stellar players… I guess it depends on play style but if your naturally tough or a finesse player which BOTH Chet are, putting on weight won’t really matter.. it will ad to his game if he does but he’ll be fine if he doesn’t
@@AP-ok9rs yeah im not sure why the idea that chet will get bullied is so prevalent with nba fans lol nothing about his time in college suggests anything like that lol
@@AP-ok9rs Kevin Durant put on 25 pounds since he’s been drafted. He wasn’t 190 pounds as a rookie either like Chet was.
@@thraitor7819 you didn’t watch enough then. He was often pushed out of position when he posted and called for the ball.
Nice analysis man, gained a subscriber
Elite in drop covered is exactly right bro. U know you’re stuff for sure 💯 good evaluation
10:19 it's crazy how even in the negative portion he's still putting up a pretty damn good contest
All he needs to do is gain 30-50lbs and he's a stud
@@KernalPancakes I think e's gonna be a stud regardless of weight but filling out his frame fast would be really good for his early development
@@KernalPancakes he’s not gonna gain 30-50 pounds he’ll always be a lean guy…it’s just adding like 10-15 pounds of muscle for him
@@KernalPancakes he won't gain anywhere near that but he doesn't have to to be a top tier starter/all star guy
Great video... Thanks man.
I like the old graphic and color better, from last year's scouting report videos.
Love your vids bro. Banchero next
The Rockets need to draft this guy. A few seasons under Olajuwon's wing and he'll be able to improve on all of his weak points.
Hes going to the next Tingus Pingus. Whoever drafts him will regret it
@@mclovin4974 Lol, that's a possibility. High risk, high reward type of guy. Sometimes, I talk myself out of it and think they should draft Jabari Smith instead.
@@romeinla4041 if they can get a legitimate center next season yes they should take jabari in the coming nba draft but if there is no center that can be obtained via trade or sign it would be better to take CHET as the main center and lower wood to his natural position as PF than gambling with JABARI as PF and WOOD as the center which we know is easy to be bullied by other centers, I'm not saying that chet can't be bullied by other centers but somehow he will limit their production because of chet's wing span and footwork .
No man im a rockets fan and trust me we don’t need him, Paolo and Jabari are way better options. Chet also always struggles against actual comp, and looks like a walking injury
@@allengarza9208 Chet is better
He has good defensive awareness
We’ve seen a bit of movement in the lottery recently, are we going to get a second mock draft soon?
Great analysis bro but id also say he has shades of porzingis but a better defender.
Particularly his shot.
10:07 We really drafted this guy at pick #12 ❤
Chet should pay you for this!! Fire content
I see allot of Pau Gasol in him. Supper long like Pau, but with defensive awareness. Probably will never grow into Gasol's build, but with the offensive weaponry combined with his defensive presence, this kid should be set for whichever team is lucky enough to draft him.
Damn I never thought of that comparison. That's actually a pretty good idea of what he may be able to do one day
Lil bro u going hard I like it I break prospects down as well. Big magic man
Do we take paolo who is ready to best player day 1 or do we go with unreal upside and be patient with Chet. I’m torn paolo is ready to compete right away and had a huge bag. But if Chet figures it out he could be on of the best to ever come out what says you keondre
Kids gonna be great in the right system. Absolutely elite if he doesn't end up being a super hard gainer like pukevesky
What's the difference between him and Bol Bol?
Haters gonna hate. I'm excited to see him in the league.
He averaged 9 ppg on 49/21/60 splits against AP Top 25 teams this year… No franchise or fan base is going to be happy if their #1 pick can’t handle a high usage scoring role. Doesn’t matter how good the defense is
Thank u
Karl Anthony Towns averaged 10.3 ppg in college.
No center even NBA centers should have to score that much in order for the team to have success. That's why they're four other players on your team so that you don't have to carry that heavy of a scoring load.😎🏀
@@josephnicholas9152 When you’re a #1 pick, everybody is expecting you to be a franchise player. A number 1 option.
@@chriskeesee7508 sir you have to understand this, being a number one pick does not necessarily mean you will be the number one option depending on the team that you are a part of. The number one pick also does not mean that that pic is necessarily the best player in the draft either. The number one pic just means that whoever the team is gets to pick first. A perfect example of this is the 1984 draft you know when Hakeem olajuwon went first and then Sam Bowie and then Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan went third but what ended up happening? I'll let you fill in the blank. Have a nice day sir. 😎🏀
What he is a forward/center? I thought he is a shooting guard
Love this kids game he is so complete smooth at the 3 point line
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He's getting slept on. As a Rockets fan I understand the whole draft the best player available and I'm hearing a lot of Jabari Smith/Paolo Banchero hopefuls in our fanbase but, it seems that I'm one of the exception of rockets fans who feel that we should draft need over talent. We have a opportunity to draft a Kevin Durant/Brandon Ingram type of player on the offensive and who will immediately improve our defense. The Rockets were historically bad on the defensive end this year we need to improve that style we don't need another score, we need to take a power forward who we can plug in alongside and has a real high potential on both end of the court as Alperen Sengun.
The Rockets main issue is the charactor of the player you guys are drafting. The Rockets have 2 or 3 young kids who are of low charactor. You guys need to start finding high charactor, skill players.
John Wall is a gangster. Green is very immature even for a 20 year old kid. Jr is a really bad..bad locker room guy. That's why he fell down to the 30th pick. Christian Wood is a spicy personality.
need over talent is a mistake in the lottery
@@philphillip4305 good point. they need a culture changer, a good locker room guy nd a leader
Orlando!! Let’s get it
Shades of Dolph Schayes. If you never seen film on Schayes, well there's not much, but what I did see he was too quick for bigs and could shoot over smaller players. Also some Paul George in terms of agility and smoothness to his game. Got some Mitchell Robinson in him in terms of blocking shots on the perimeter.
Gotta really think its some kevin mchale there too
Lmao keandre put it right as I was about to say but he really does a great job of keeping the ball in bounds on his rejections. Mobley is the same and look at his impact on their team defense (albeit with JA)
Best comparison I could personally think of was a better defesive Porzingis
I was as skinny as him and just as athletic in high school, but 8 inches shorter. I was 6’4” 150lbs. My dad was a d1 player. I thought I just never had the skills. Then in my 20’s I was 6’4” 190lb. My god did it make such a massive difference in athleticism. I went from being mediocre to at everything to being pretty much the best athlete in any type of amateur adult league.
This dude is going to be insane when he puts on a few lbs.
Lies lies lies
As a Rockets fan, I like our selection. However, I have to admit this guy may have the highest ceiling in this class. I am happy to see him joining the team which drafted KD. Good luck.
As long as he steadily adds some beef to his frame he will be pretty good, not sure about perennial all-star but a solid starting forward for sure
If he “steadily adds some beef to his frame,” and stays relatively healthy, then I will guarantee 5X All Star, likely 3+ All NBA teams as well. Chet is as close to a “Perfect Prospect” as you can find (outside of the Lebron level savants) EXCEPT for his frame/strength. I’m of the opinion that if frame is a prospects only real weakness, then you take that player 1st overall and never look back. “Too skinny” is the EASIEST attribute to improve massively in just a few seasons.
him vs wemby will be legendary
he needs to paired up with a complimentary physical player like mahorn or laimbeer or shaq at the 4/5 positions....a weak side floating shot blocker. Or just a SF like durrant??
I disagree with some here saying he is a "complimentary player". He has legit super-star potential. He is more of a 4 in the NBA, not a 5. Unlike in college, NBA will give him a LOT more open opportunities to shoot and create. His passing is a strength not a weakness and it will work well with his handles and fluidity. As long as his 3pt shot holds up in the NBA, he will get a lot of points. The biggest weakness wasn't mentioned - it's the risk of injuries. Anytime, you get a 7 footer on such a thin frame, it's a question mark. Like with KP, it's something that doesn't have to be a risk without a history of injuries. NBA is punishing on players' bodies. IF he gains 20 pounds, will it make him less or more prone to injuries? No one knows!
I don't think it's his thin frame that is a particular cause for concern regarding injuries. There are plenty of players who are actually too big and the forces are too much for their joints. I actually think it's the opposite and his chances of injury are lower. I think it's important to see his track record of injuries.
@@billr5842 It's both. A prime example of putting too much weight and getting injured would be someone like Zion or Shaq in late 2000s. But being too thin and being so tall can be a risk for injuries, like KP, for example. Neither Zion, nor Shaq, nor KP had a track record of any particular injuries prior to the NBA
@@mrvk39 How about Greg Oden, Anthony Davis? These were bigger explosive players. Chet isn't particularly explosive and doesn't play like those 2. He is also agile which is generally a good sign. Porzingis is 7'3" and he isn't exactly skinny and he actually has a freakish vertical leap (for his height) so it's no surprise he got injured. But then again, injuries are totally random in many cases and you really don't know for sure.
@@billr5842 He was VERY skinny when he entered the league! It was the biggest knock on him during draft, which is why he fell to 4. He doesn't have a freakish vertical leap. He is like Chet, with a 7'5 wingspan. He can dunk without having much of a vertical. And yes, any type of player can get injured be it Oden or Roy, but generally, many 7'0 and above have longevity issues in the NBA.
@@mrvk39 uhh porzingis had a 37.5" vertical leap in 2016. That is 2inches more than Blake Griffin. That is a freakish vertical especially for some at his size. He was 230lbs which is medium but maybe not for his height. At 7'3 he's better off strength training rather than bulking up. Of course casual NBA fans always think the opposite. When someone at that height bulks up, the weight increases quite a bit faster than if a 6'5" guard bulks up.
Dudes ceiling is Rudy Gobert with Offense…..insanity. If you can gaurentee me he puts on 25 pounds in the next 4 years I take him 1 no question
I used to think he'd be a bust because he was too skinny. But, if he is used as a 4 primarily until he adds some more bulk, I think he'll be fine. Prime Serge Ibaka is a good comparison I don't see that much but I really think fits quite well.
With his narrow shoulders though, I don't think he'll ever be able to fill out like Giannis has. So I guess he'll always play at least some of his minutes with another big on the court. His shooting and mobility on both ends of the floor make that a possibility, though.
He’s going to be an interesting complimentary player rather than a 1st option star.
Better spacing in the nba will allow him to showcase his outside shot and maybe his handles.
His off ball shot blocking will be solid but he might struggle against the big boys.
He’s tough and will end up being a fine pro if he can avoid injury.
I disagree. He will be the 1st option star, or at least has good potential for it. No one will match him against Jokic or Embiid in his first 2-3 years. He will play 4. And as a 4, as long as his 3pt shot translates to the NBA, he will get A LOT of scoring opportunities. He will be more like KP or KD, more of a perimeter player who will have to be guarded closely, which will give him opportunities to take people off the dribble and into the paint, where his 7'5 wingspan will great create high % shots or fouls or passes. I think you picked his biggest concern - injury risk. If he stays healthy, he is a super-star in 2-3 years.
Pro is harder because of physicality of the game that what i will say for now
@@mrvk39 don’t ever compare him to KD again. KD was a first option from the rip and was able to play and matchup with big boys at or around position from the jump. Chet will be a catch and shoot player for a while until he develops his frame
@@pandabear1576 don't be dense. Chet might need a year or two to develop, but his ceiling is very much comparable to KD. He is more than just a catch and shoot guy - watching his handle, his first step, his ability to stop and pull up for a shot... the foundation to be a great offensive player is there
i think his ceiling his rudy gobert with a bigger offensive package
He's better than I originally thought.
Kid is skilled Like Mobley he should be #1 pick. His timing just like Mobley is extremely impressive. If Magic can do what Cavs did and get a pounder Center down low they can play Chet and PF/C
Reminds me of a modern Pau Gasol
Welcome to OKC⚡️
I have a feeling none of the “best fits” will be Houston in all of his vids this year 😂😭
It's not like Chet is coming into the league in the 90's. Not many players play in the post. Embiid, Jokic, and KAT rather shoot 3's all game and it's not like they are shut down defenders at the 3pt line.
the next kd
I think it would be better for him to be a 4 rather than being a center. Let Sengun be their 5 and maybe they can copy cavs mobley allen duo. All they need is a good playmaker though since they already got 2 young scorers with green and kpj. I just hope he turns out to be a really good player man
Ya he's a great shooter OKC can't go wrong with him or jabari I think both will be superstars.
Banchero would be better for okc
Magic got him ;)
He needs to go to either Piston or Rockets because they both have future star from last draft and he won't be judged even if he doesn't perform 1st pick level
Best fit would be rockets imho
This dude has go go gadget arms.
Future impact player
@ 11:31 I played too many years with referees calling carries for it just not to be a rule anymore. Not fair to everyone who has played already.
Honestly, the level of defense, basketball iq, speed, strength and physicality is leagues above in the nba. We've seen the best shooters in college struggle to get a shot off in the nba. JJ Reddick for instance struggled for YEARS until he got in nba shape competing in the gym against peak Dwight Howard. And with Chets frame he's going to be bullied and pushed out the box more than Marvin Bagley lol. I imagine he'll prolly average a block in the nba well shooting around 30% from three and thats me trying to be optimistic. Also despite his weight he's actually REALLY SLOOOOOW, and in the nba people will prolly blow past him and body him to create space. Now thats not to say that he won't have a huge career and make progress in time, but I really believe thats dependant on him getting in better shape and putting on A LOT of muscle. He may be worthy of the #1 pick in time but I think he's possibly the least nba ready amongst the big 4 or 5 in the draft.
How fast is he supposed to be? He has a 7'6 wingspan
@@lilmixdboy Faster than he is.
@@s0lgewds0lgewd16 🥱
Yea people compare him to Kevin durante but even durante was faster and could create his own shot and pull up in someone's face.
This guy will get stripped before he even dribbles the ball lol
@@MariaMorales-bd3gy I agree, In time tho he might be amazing. Can't wait for the draft tonight.
I think the concern about Chet's frame is durability. Guys who come into the league with his type of frame tend to struggle to stay healthy over an 82 game season. Now in most cases as the player adds muscle and core strength the concern goes away, but there are questions about his ability to bulk up and build core strength.
What do you mean? If anything it’s the opposite, guys who are too heavy tend to have injury problems, like Zion for example.
@@guledm12 you went too far on the extreme. His frame is not built for 82 games it’s a fact. Mentioning zion makes no sense. Zion gets injured due to his landings from his ridiculously explosive jumping
Watch out for Giddey & Chet 🔥🔥🔥
Under 200?! Dude better hit those weights
He is a pf or he will get BODIED AT THE 5 😂. He is dirk 2.0 with improved shot blocking and handles. Thats it, his ceiling isn’t bad by that measure
He’s not remotely comparable to Dirk, especially on defense. He’ll struggle with some bigger guys but his length and positioning will make him a great rim defender regardless.
@@dillonmurphy2394 also Dirk was way more athletic than he was at the same age even into his prime but people love only focusing on what they can remember recently.
dude needs to just keep pushing that sled
The one thing i dont like is his weight but his determination to fight no matter the weight difference is defiantly something i like to see compared to other skinny guys before
I'll never understand why Chet is a potential number 1 pick but Bol Bol was a second rounder
Bro it makes no sense.
bol had a medical issue
@@donaldperry89 so a foot injury seperates him that much from chet? Even though chef weighs less than bol when he was drafted btw.
@@Dm-tu4wf exactly
Need him or Paolo on the Blazers sooo bad
@The Mastery CLASS dame is getting traded
Chet to the Kings🔥🔥✨💯
a lot of ppl arent a believer bc his size (jot height wise) but i mean mobley is skinny asf too and was very good last year. would have been roty if he didnt get hurt
I honestly don’t think Orlando or OKC will take a chance on him he’s a high risk pick IMO. He’s a good player but doesn’t have a high ceiling imo
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@@steveclifford5227 hopefully tbh, i want jabari smith🥲
Looks like jaren Jackson
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I don't think he would be able to handle guys like Embiid or Jokic, but I could def see him playing the 3 or 4. I do think he is to talented to not be a good player, but if he can start scoring at a high volume or adds some muscle he can really take his name to the next level.
He won’t need to score at high volume. Only high efficiency. Stick him on a team with some guards who can find him in his spots and he will shine.
Tis the season
Chet has a good Basketball IQ, too. However, I don't see he is like Evan Mobley. Mobley was dominant, Chet isn't. A lot of his blocks are backside defense shots. In the NBA, big strong frontcourt players are going to pass off the double team and Chet is going to go one-on-one. Chet will not be able to dribble off the rebound to the 3 line and nail it. Teams are going to stop, or annoy, his 3 shot because it's really nice. Lastly, current big NBA players are taller and stronger. Chet will have a hard time with Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Ayon, and a few others on the boards and with their strength.
Chet is going to have a larger learning curve than the experts believe.
He’s probably gonna be put at the 4 in the nba
Once he hits the weight room watch out!!!!
where do you think someone with his play style should/could max out with his weight? he's not gonna be able to get an embiid type body. idk shit about weight management in sports. i just think its a very interesting discussion. kinda like fighting, every body type has advantages and disadvantageous, yknow? some better than others, of course.
He is hitting thr weight room some people have a harder time gaining weight than others. Honestly if his 3point shooting maintains he can be stuck at the 4 position with his skillset and play good help with his length
Giannis body type
@@TREzyGetPuzze when giannis first joined the league
@@TREzyGetPuzze im probably absolutely wrong. i dont have more than a high school understanding of anatomy, but i feel giannis is a bit different. i think his frame may have grown in a way to put on a bit more muscle. someone like KD or Brandon Ingram i think are closer. Giannis is close, but i don't think they could get that frame how he did
Players like him always look good as a teen injury prone by age 23 or 24 never the same player again after that
List all those players please…
Kristaps is an obvious one
@@switzaification Ok. One 7’2 guy (injury rates increase significantly the further players get above 7ft). Has Ayton (bad pick) been hurt a ton? Jarrett Allen? Jaren Jackson? I mean naming an injured tall guy says nothing. Your solution would be only draft 6’7 and below? Saying a player who has never been injured is injury prone is idiocy.
I think Chet will be good in the NBA, I just feel as if the concerns about his frame is a real thing.
“THIN TOWERS” … the nickname for the Oklahoma City Thunder duo of Aleksej Pokusevski & Chet Holmgren 😂💪
Poku: 7’0” with guard skills
Chet: 7’1” with guard skills
Both are only 20 years old 👀
Kings need him.
Orlando?
Yessir!
I think a better comparison would be Knicks Porzingis. dude just needs to put on a little more muscle then he'd be good
Teams would be ridiculed constantly for passing on Chet
I think that his weight gain is inevitable. His stardom I believe depends on if he can get some more free throws and stay aggressive
This man plays like Bol Bol lol
Spurs need him but he’ll be gone by the time they pick! Patience will be needed by whoever drafts him. The draft is a crapshoot. He could be a superstar or out the league in 5 years m!
Another Gonzaga Bust
This will age terribly
@@PostDeathPostDeathPostDeath highly doubt it unless he gains muscle…dude is anorexic
Definitely reminds me of Kevin Durant, less athletic but could develop into something special.
Stop 🤦🏿♂️
No. 1 pick has a little jinx to it, would not mind if he ends up at 3.
W
New Nowitzki with better defense ?
I said the same thing😂😂🔥🔥✨💯
I see a 7 foot SG, not a center. Not sure how his game would translate to the NBA, wish him the best though.
He need to gain weight w/ not losing speed. He reminds me poku, but chet got much better fundamentals, not to mention the defensive instincts. If he can be as strong as Gannis, he will be unstoppable but the chance is small