I have studied 3 styles, 15 yrs Wing Chun, around the same in WTF TKD reaching 3rd dan and now at 67 I am studying Shotokan. Great Martial artists transcend styles, this guy is a great martial artist. A 9th dan once told me in a personal training session that martial arts are 80% the same, the 20% difference is in the techniques of the style the 80% that remains is all about relaxation and breathing. I did not understand then, I do now!
So much control. There is so much art that those who lack patience will never learn & will never teach. The speed & efficiency is to be envied. It’s beautiful to see that some people would rather teach & learn, rather than to risk injuries or make compromises based on points.
I'm shorei ( goju ryu morio HIGAONNA school). Now i would like to learn to this very good shorin. It's différent. But he is so good,strong,and technique !
Of course I can also see that Bertel has good physical qualities. However, I cannot follow the enthusiasm of many people who think that they confuse this with actual effectiveness in a real fight. Would Bertel know how to do these things against a well trained fighter in Thaibox or MMA? Or can he only do them with pupils who (between fear and respect) do not really attack?
The constant struggle of people comparing consensual violence and non consensual violence. We don't need to show our skills in a ring. Thats why we (the traditionalists) don't go there. This stuff is supposed to cripple or kill. No one wants that unless it's necessary.
@@user-hm2jj5uz8j Whether or not a violent attack is consensual or not does not touch the question of whether Bertell's techniques really work or whether it is a consensual spectacle. I am 6 Dan of Karate Shotokan (direct student of Shinan Hiroshi Shirai) but also MMA Instructor and I believe what I SEE. in Bertell's video we SEE first of all that all "attackers" are NOT attackers. In fact, the latter are violent, unpredictable, they attack with the utmost energy, they don't want to be hit but hit and hurt, etc. etc. And you tell me that I have to believe that you do not enter the ring because they are too dangerous? In addition to all this, I have not talked about "Ring" or a sporting match. These are HER words from her. I talked about combat and real verification.
@@justinstuart8382 I am 6 Dan in Shotokan karate, direct student of Sensei Hiroshi Shirai, and also MMA Instructor. My son is a professional MMA fighter. I have a bit of white hair, a lot of experience and I know perfectly what I'm saying and also why I'm saying it. If you are one of those karatekas who are not convinced by what I am saying, instead of making stupid comments, I invite you to fight with my son and, if you want, also to bet 10,000 Euros. You'd end up like Bertell.
Would anyone know the reason behind the black belts with the strip of white tape as seen in the video ? Never before seen it at any seminar and just curious ?
Now that you mention it , I don´t recall having seen this on karateka´s belt before, but it refers to the individual´s Dan level , these stripes are used in the korean martial arts but usually only colored belts (under black belt level) use actual tape for intermediate ranks ..after 1st Dan, the dan strpes are sewn in..
If lot should think this is impressive then you should go to a basic stand up Goshin Jujitsu class .. It will blow your mind KABOOM !! He's just doing the basics ..
@goggles789 ... Don't mind me , I never even taken a class . Just booze myself into a stupor and write shit online about martial arts . Next week I will probably write a review on remote control helicopter's and then week after hang myself ..
@@dududu5189 ... Yes I also do not remember writing the above message but that's because I was probably smashed on gypsy juice ... Your my wife now ...Dave
The problem with the punches there are Telegraphed! If you did it properly? You wouldn't show what hand or fist would be coming, until the strike! So the bock would be harder to detect!
A punch can kill , los golpes a la clavícula y a los dientes mandíbula corazón puede uno matar , en defensa personal, si o no El karate y taekwondo artes
As a Shotokan martial artist I always wondered how a Shotokan practioner would do against a jiu jit su and Muy Thai practioner are styles better or does it depend on the person. Bruce Lee said no style is more superior than the other.
La verdad le si un expositor le gusta pegar a un alumno o miembro de auditorios este estando indefenso no esta bien, me parece una falta de respeto para el alumno y miembros del auditorio con esto no se demuestra superioridad, son karatecas no masoquistas ossu
Exacto, no vas a ver haciendo eso a un maestro japonés. Recuerdo que mi primer profesor de karate era algo parecido a este señor pero tenía 22 años y se le entiende por ser tan joven y le ganaba el ego y la torpeza, pero este señor del vídeo tiene más de 40 años y es un maestro. Sería bueno verlo intercambiando bloqueos o choque de antebrazos con otro karatecas como lo hacen los de Okinawa.
Also stance needs to be tighter! Wide stance breaks the torque and sets up a gap! Which in turn, you will be hit first! The legs are pegged into the ground like a tree and the toes are the roots and the arms/hands are the limbs! 'Loose"
It is easy to hit an opponent that tells you what he is going to do. In a real fight there are no one shot strikes. To hit an opponent that does not resist is silly. I respect his technique, power and form. Yet, we have to be real. Martial arts are about life and death.
Those guys are taking those hits for no reason. Horrible examples of not being in control. There is no need to punch these guys as hard as you can and even then, they took it so that means his punching power is minimal. I am pretty sure JKA does not condone this type of teaching.
Any countertechnique that requires oitsuki as an attack is worthless. Nobody in any situation does not attack with oitsuki. Oh right... in the dojo with a partner...
@@SchwarzkopfPICCOLO How am I crying? I am just pointing out the obvious flaws in the show. How abour stopping deluding yourself and actually think about it?
@@SchwarzkopfPICCOLO You are totally off, man. Mawashi geri is a worthy technique and can be applied in several situations. Where as oi-tsuki nowhere. Get my point? Bragging like your are, you are probably a teenager or just an ill-mannered practitioner, not worthy of calling a budo-ka. But I will gladly accept your challenge if you let me respond with my hizageri otoshiempi uchi counter.
Oi-zuki is an important training tool to teach important (physical) principles - rear-leg thrust, hip vibration, maintaining vertical axis and more. Applied oi-zuki uses slightly different timing, may look like in-transition gyaku-zuki, and is very effective. Hope this help clear up any confusion! Keep training! Oss!!
form is not meant to be applied literally, it's a mean to teach you general principles. Of course nobody will ever attack you with textbook ooitsuki. Of course you will never answer a punch with shutouke in kokutsu dachi with hikite at stomach level.
That’s a lie boxing has no chance against any kind of karate and I am experienced with both boxing and shotokan karate so just keep in mind that boxing is just for the ring and gym not for things like this
Claire Speight Boxing would have a chance with hand speed,ducking etc. But Karate has kicking,throwing and locking as in style and proficiency. One of our priests in South America a former boxer pulverised an intruder late at night.Boxing is efficient and competent in subduing an unsuspecting and untrained fighter quickly.
Karate can beat boxing but this video is just them practicing and training slowly also a boxer can throw as many punches as he wants but the karate guy can block fast attack and knock out in reality karate is fast when you are past red belt. Boxing is great but it’s not used for street if that makes sense it’s for the ring kind off but karate can be both but mainly for defence so it’s nice to see other people’s opinion but boxing wouldn’t stand karate maybe wing chun but not karate
I have not seen any good black belt: 1. tied their black belt ended up uneven.; 2. Wear hair like Andre Bertel. If he plans to talk a lot, he must look different.
Why? Who cares. Andre lives and trains in Japan and has done so for many years. Not easy for a foreigner, sudies Karate seriously.Very few can do that for any length of time. He is fully immersed in it and one of the best non Japanese exponents around.
Also ja kann sein schau ma auf meinen Kanal vorbei ich lad da meine Kämpfe hoch ich mach nen anderen Stil von Karate (Kyokushinkaikan Karate ) das ist ein Vollkontakt Stil
Karate ist nicht veraltet. Es gibt gute Lehrer und schlechte Lehrer, sowie gute und schlechte Schüler. Das wichtigste ist, Karate ist wie alle Kampfkünste sehr Zeitaufwendig. Man erlernt keine Kampfkunst innerhalb weniger Wochen. Viele Karate Künstler wurden zur körperlichen Ertüchtigung von ihren Eltern in die Hände eines solchen Meisters gegeben, um ihre körperlichen und geistigen Eigenschaften zu verbessern. Meiner Meinung nach ist Sensei Bertel einer der besten Lehrer in dieser Kunst. Ich selbst bin nur 6. Kyu in dieser Kunst.
Habe es selbst jahrelang gemacht und als Hobby ganz okay, aber was das kämpferische angeht, kann man da mit den meisten anderen kampfsportarten nicht mithalten, zumindest nicht praktisch.
Wer so etwas behauptet, kennt nicht die Geschichte des Karate. Auf Okinawa gab es Zeiten, in denen Menschen sich sogar gegen bewaffnete Samurai wehren mussten. In solchen Kämpfen ging es um Leben und Tod. Es ist immer eine Frage ob man die Technik beherrscht, oder nicht.
It's not fake by any means. He's good, but in all the demonstrations that he does, and there are many others that do the same, their demonstration partner is always static or doing some pre arranged move so their response is not exactly reflexive. Designed to impress though.
What is this? don't karate. yet how many cn. however none of them know Karate. otherwise they would not follow these stages. nothing passed off as karate.
I have studied 3 styles, 15 yrs Wing Chun, around the same in WTF TKD reaching 3rd dan and now at 67 I am studying Shotokan. Great Martial artists transcend styles, this guy is a great martial artist. A 9th dan once told me in a personal training session that martial arts are 80% the same, the 20% difference is in the techniques of the style the 80% that remains is all about relaxation and breathing. I did not understand then, I do now!
So much control. There is so much art that those who lack patience will never learn & will never teach. The speed & efficiency is to be envied. It’s beautiful to see that some people would rather teach & learn, rather than to risk injuries or make compromises based on points.
Sachsen und Bayern haben in der Tat die besten Karate Schulen. Schönes Video. Danke fürs Hochladen.
Shotokan karate is my Life. I love do!
Congratulations from São Paulo, Brazil!
OSS
Nilton, I mean this in a respectful way. are you married and if so do you have children? Thank you
Sou do Interior de SP, sou da Academia Schultze de Karatê! Oss!
But I'm very pleased with someone who is trying to raise the bar of technique! Andre well done!
Impressive, I always enjoy Andre's karate. it is very nice with full control. it's perfect.
Such an impressive technique and Spirit. Very inspirational.
Sensei Bertel une précision redoutable ,vraiment exceptionnel
Sehr beeindruckend!!!
Sensei Bertel is a very special man
Impresionante este sensei.no la ves venir👏👏👏👏
Power full and perfect
Happy Ostern 🐣🐤🐥🐰🐇
Eres el mejor mi sensei de cartagena
So refreshing to know that Ramsay Bolton is well after all and can do karate like no dogs had it at him... :-).
His style and technique is different to normal which I like 👍🥋
Exelente demostrasion
Very Super 💥
True karate, all technique are done with lots of kime, one shot one kill.
Super
Very good l like ita
I'm shorei ( goju ryu morio HIGAONNA school).
Now i would like to learn to this very good shorin.
It's différent.
But he is so good,strong,and technique !
👍👍oss sensei👍👍
11:49 yoko geri from the ground, to the ground. xD. Andre Bertel it's a true master
Expansion - Contraction - Strength - Tom Muzila
Where the mind goes the Body follows
Eyes first to see - the movement follows the eyes
Center of the Core that is the beginning of the Strike
bravo bravo
Of course I can also see that Bertel has good physical qualities. However, I cannot follow the enthusiasm of many people who think that they confuse this with actual effectiveness in a real fight. Would Bertel know how to do these things against a well trained fighter in Thaibox or MMA? Or can he only do them with pupils who (between fear and respect) do not really attack?
The constant struggle of people comparing consensual violence and non consensual violence.
We don't need to show our skills in a ring. Thats why we (the traditionalists) don't go there. This stuff is supposed to cripple or kill. No one wants that unless it's necessary.
@@user-hm2jj5uz8j Whether or not a violent attack is consensual or not does not touch the question of whether Bertell's techniques really work or whether it is a consensual spectacle. I am 6 Dan of Karate Shotokan (direct student of Shinan Hiroshi Shirai) but also MMA Instructor and I believe what I SEE. in Bertell's video we SEE first of all that all "attackers" are NOT attackers. In fact, the latter are violent, unpredictable, they attack with the utmost energy, they don't want to be hit but hit and hurt, etc. etc. And you tell me that I have to believe that you do not enter the ring because they are too dangerous? In addition to all this, I have not talked about "Ring" or a sporting match. These are HER words from her. I talked about combat and real verification.
Oh god not that bollox again 😫
@@justinstuart8382 I am 6 Dan in Shotokan karate, direct student of Sensei Hiroshi Shirai, and also MMA Instructor. My son is a professional MMA fighter. I have a bit of white hair, a lot of experience and I know perfectly what I'm saying and also why I'm saying it. If you are one of those karatekas who are not convinced by what I am saying, instead of making stupid comments, I invite you to fight with my son and, if you want, also to bet 10,000 Euros. You'd end up like Bertell.
Punching the hell out of that guy 😂
Guzzy he apparently liked it. I would have said "knock it off what are you trying to prove?" And then walked out....maybe run out
The one yard punch is pretty powerfull!
👍
Would anyone know the reason behind the black belts with the strip of white tape as seen in the video ? Never before seen it at any seminar and just curious ?
This is the admission control indicator that the participant has paid. This is an adhesive strip
@@TheDojokun Yes. Money is essential. Nobody wants to teach karate for free. It is a business, afterall.
Now that you mention it , I don´t recall having seen this on karateka´s belt before, but it refers to the individual´s Dan level , these stripes are used in the korean martial arts but usually only colored belts (under black belt level) use actual tape for intermediate ranks ..after 1st Dan, the dan strpes are sewn in..
@@PETURK if they are indeed there for level, they are common is some okinawan style and kyokushin karate
Sensei Bertel, mostra a eficiência de golpes que muitas vezes eu duvidava que funcionasse.
This is a very big class size.
For a white belt this guy is pretty good!
If lot should think this is impressive then you should go to a basic stand up Goshin Jujitsu class ..
It will blow your mind KABOOM !!
He's just doing the basics ..
What style would win in a fight if it was practioner be practioner in each Martial arts style.
It's not about being fancy or technical it's about effective training with an eye for detail. This guy is preserving the art and taking it forward.
@goggles789 ...
Don't mind me , I never even taken a class . Just booze myself into a stupor and write shit online about martial arts .
Next week I will probably write a review on remote control helicopter's and then week after hang myself ..
@@ajnin1974 Is that Dave?
@@dududu5189 ... Yes
I also do not remember writing the above message but that's because I was probably smashed on gypsy juice ...
Your my wife now ...Dave
As you strike with a punch, your strike should land just before the front foot hits the ground, for quickness and maximum impact.
Body Biometrics Martial Arts
True
There another guy that's so similar to this chap and I can't recall his name.
The problem with the punches there are Telegraphed! If you did it properly? You wouldn't show what hand or fist would be coming, until the strike! So the bock would be harder to detect!
👍😀
OSS.
Video masht he sir
Does anybody know what style karate that is?
Shotokan.
Karate Indonesia osh...
Donde queda ese arte marcial
A punch can kill , los golpes a la clavícula y a los dientes mandíbula corazón puede uno matar , en defensa personal, si o no
El karate y taekwondo artes
living punch bag
"pupils don´t hit back....."
German Bruce Lee ...Great video
🇧🇮🇧🇮🇧🇮
OS...BARCELONA🤗
As a Shotokan martial artist I always wondered how a Shotokan practioner would do against a jiu jit su and Muy Thai practioner are styles better or does it depend on the person. Bruce Lee said no style is more superior than the other.
I think the shotokan karate mixed martial champion lyoto Machida could answer your question
@goggles789 That is a damn great 👍🏽 summary thanks for your feedback abs knowledgeable answer. OSS
@@fernandoortega4679 Truth 💯☝🏽🎯
lovely .. Let have a fight oneday 😀😀😀😘
La verdad le si un expositor le gusta pegar a un alumno o miembro de auditorios este estando indefenso no esta bien, me parece una falta de respeto para el alumno y miembros del auditorio con esto no se demuestra superioridad, son karatecas no masoquistas
ossu
Lo siento quien eres?
Amigo Este Karate No Es Deportivo
Es Clásico Aquí Son Más Golpes Y Menos Parloteo
Exacto, no vas a ver haciendo eso a un maestro japonés. Recuerdo que mi primer profesor de karate era algo parecido a este señor pero tenía 22 años y se le entiende por ser tan joven y le ganaba el ego y la torpeza, pero este señor del vídeo tiene más de 40 años y es un maestro. Sería bueno verlo intercambiando bloqueos o choque de antebrazos con otro karatecas como lo hacen los de Okinawa.
insgesamt schon sehr weird mit den Cam einspielern von oben zwischendurch lol
この方の自由組手の試合を見てみたいもんだ。動かない弟子に当て過ぎなのでは。。
Shoulders are showing what is coming next! Need to be squared and hide the torque!
why white belt teaches black belts?
His black belt worn out and became white
Это Карате 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍☝👍👍👍👍☝👍☝👍👍👍👍☝👍☝👍☝☝☝☝☝☝👍👍......
Also stance needs to be tighter! Wide stance breaks the torque and sets up a gap! Which in turn, you will be hit first! The legs are pegged into the ground like a tree and the toes are the roots and the arms/hands are the limbs! 'Loose"
Nice but strange video.
True Karate is never for sport
It is easy to hit an opponent that tells you what he is going to do. In a real fight there are no one shot strikes. To hit an opponent that does not resist is silly. I respect his technique, power and form. Yet, we have to be real. Martial arts are about life and death.
The ground fighting component of this is blatantly ridiculous and dangerous.
Nothing in gi and black belt.
Those guys are taking those hits for no reason. Horrible examples of not being in control. There is no need to punch these guys as hard as you can and even then, they took it so that means his punching power is minimal. I am pretty sure JKA does not condone this type of teaching.
Any countertechnique that requires oitsuki as an attack is worthless. Nobody in any situation does not attack with oitsuki. Oh right... in the dojo with a partner...
foxesruler pls stop cryin, thank you.
@@SchwarzkopfPICCOLO How am I crying? I am just pointing out the obvious flaws in the show. How abour stopping deluding yourself and actually think about it?
@@SchwarzkopfPICCOLO You are totally off, man. Mawashi geri is a worthy technique and can be applied in several situations. Where as oi-tsuki nowhere. Get my point? Bragging like your are, you are probably a teenager or just an ill-mannered practitioner, not worthy of calling a budo-ka. But I will gladly accept your challenge if you let me respond with my hizageri otoshiempi uchi counter.
Oi-zuki is an important training tool to teach important (physical) principles - rear-leg thrust, hip vibration, maintaining vertical axis and more. Applied oi-zuki uses slightly different timing, may look like in-transition gyaku-zuki, and is very effective.
Hope this help clear up any confusion! Keep training! Oss!!
form is not meant to be applied literally, it's a mean to teach you general principles. Of course nobody will ever attack you with textbook ooitsuki. Of course you will never answer a punch with shutouke in kokutsu dachi with hikite at stomach level.
That’s a lie boxing has no chance against any kind of karate and I am experienced with both boxing and shotokan karate so just keep in mind that boxing is just for the ring and gym not for things like this
Claire Speight Boxing would have a chance with hand speed,ducking etc.
But Karate has kicking,throwing and locking as in style and proficiency.
One of our priests in South America a former boxer pulverised an intruder late at night.Boxing is efficient and competent in subduing an unsuspecting and untrained fighter quickly.
Every Boxer Kicks a Karatekas Ass
Karate can beat boxing but this video is just them practicing and training slowly also a boxer can throw as many punches as he wants but the karate guy can block fast attack and knock out in reality karate is fast when you are past red belt. Boxing is great but it’s not used for street if that makes sense it’s for the ring kind off but karate can be both but mainly for defence so it’s nice to see other people’s opinion but boxing wouldn’t stand karate maybe wing chun but not karate
If you don't succeed to KO the boxer with the firt kick, you lose the fight.
deonbekende your wrong karate doesn’t just punch and kick one time there is combinations an the movement is faster than boxing
viel zu viele Schüler, und jeder mit ein schwarzen Gürtel 😅
Has great Karate but he always cheap shots the students...
I have not seen any good black belt: 1. tied their black belt ended up uneven.; 2. Wear hair like Andre Bertel. If he plans to talk a lot, he must look different.
Why? Who cares. Andre lives and trains in Japan and has done so for many years. Not easy for a foreigner, sudies Karate seriously.Very few can do that for any length of time. He is fully immersed in it and one of the best non Japanese exponents around.
Karate ist sowas von veraltet und überholt...geht garnicht
Kommt drauf an ;)
Also ja kann sein schau ma auf meinen Kanal vorbei ich lad da meine Kämpfe hoch ich mach nen anderen Stil von Karate (Kyokushinkaikan Karate ) das ist ein Vollkontakt Stil
Karate ist nicht veraltet. Es gibt gute Lehrer und schlechte Lehrer, sowie gute und schlechte Schüler. Das wichtigste ist, Karate ist wie alle Kampfkünste sehr Zeitaufwendig. Man erlernt keine Kampfkunst innerhalb weniger Wochen. Viele Karate Künstler wurden zur körperlichen Ertüchtigung von ihren Eltern in die Hände eines solchen Meisters gegeben, um ihre körperlichen und geistigen Eigenschaften zu verbessern. Meiner Meinung nach ist Sensei Bertel einer der besten Lehrer in dieser Kunst. Ich selbst bin nur 6. Kyu in dieser Kunst.
Habe es selbst jahrelang gemacht und als Hobby ganz okay, aber was das kämpferische angeht, kann man da mit den meisten anderen kampfsportarten nicht mithalten, zumindest nicht praktisch.
Wer so etwas behauptet, kennt nicht die Geschichte des Karate. Auf Okinawa gab es Zeiten, in denen Menschen sich sogar gegen bewaffnete Samurai wehren mussten. In solchen Kämpfen ging es um Leben und Tod. Es ist immer eine Frage ob man die Technik beherrscht, oder nicht.
buen demostrador un aleman japoneizado poco trabajo personal
,buen negocio, como el dice no enseña nada solo repite lo que ha visto por el mundo
lol. fake karate.
It's not fake by any means. He's good, but in all the demonstrations that he does, and there are many others that do the same, their demonstration partner is always static or doing some pre arranged move so their response is not exactly reflexive. Designed to impress though.
What is this? don't karate. yet how many cn. however none of them know Karate. otherwise they would not follow these stages. nothing passed off as karate.