Del Potro Forehand Analysis - Tennis Forehand Lesson
Vložit
- čas přidán 13. 03. 2020
- Del Potro Forehand Analysis - Tennis Forehand Lesson. Juan Martin Del Potro has one of, if not the biggest tennis forehand of all time. Del Potro can hit winners from all areas of the court, can dominate play with his forehand and has the ability to beat players like Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic using his forehand to control play.
Del Potro Forehand Grip
Del Potro's forehand grip is very unique, he uses an extreme eastern forehand grip, which allows him to hit the ball extremely flat if he wants to. Del Potro can still produce good levels of topspin when he needs to, but his main go-to forehand is the flat one. Federer also uses the eastern forehand grip, however, Del Potro’s grip is more extreme than Federer's.
There are two main pressure points on the grip, the heel pad of the hand being the main one when hitting a forehand with the eastern grip. The second being the base knuckle of the index finger.
If you use a western forehand grip, the pressure points would change, being more on the thumb region of the palm
Del Potro’s index base is between bevel two and three, a pure eastern forehand would have it solely on bevel three like Federer but Del Potro is more extreme with the heel pad. His base knuckle is on bevel three.
This extreme grip is the foundation of Del Potro’s forehand. If you try to hold the racket with his grip and do your normal swing, you’ll see how it impacts the angle of the strings during the stroke.
This grip is one of the main reasons his right wrist has required surgery in the past, so his forehand has come at a cost on his body and his career.
Del Potro also uses an extreme grip with his left hand on the backhand side.
Preparation
Del Potro starts off with having the racket head and grip on the same level. Once he recognizes the ball is coming to his forehand side, he'll coil the upper body and lift the racket head higher than the grip level, creating leverage in the wrist.
Federer and Nadal often have the strings facing the ground during the racket drop phase, Djokovic has his strings facing the back of the court in the power position
Del Potro then lifts the racket head above the grip which also cocks back his wrist slightly
The side of the strings he’s going to hit the ball with will remain open to the court for a while before turning off to the right side
Del Potro has his strings facing the right side of the court during the entire swing. This will allow him to hit a very flat shot, producing very little topspin. When we close the strings, it helps us to generate more topspin along with the low to high swing path during the contact zone
Del Potro has the ability to drive through the ball with a very flat swing path which allows him to really crack the ball but this wouldn’t work for most players, it requires incredible timing to pull it off consistently
Due to his big swing, Del Potro regularly finishes the swing over his head which will help him produce topspin (low to high swing path) and get away with being late for the contact due to his large swing
At the end of the follow-through, his heel pad loosens up and his grip often changes, this is due to him being relaxed with the grip and not holding too tight.
Download our FREE forehand guide here - www.top-tennis-training.com/f... - Sport
FREE Download - Get our free forehand guide here - www.top-tennis-training.com/forehand-guide/
whats Novak's backhand grip?
This is so sick that you did a video analysis on Del Potro's forehand. I've been incorporating his power in my hitting and it made people very furious when playing against me. I love it! The only problem about my strategy in winning points is that I need to create some type of shot(s) that makes my opponents stumble before I hit that big forehand.
You should enjoy the video Samir!
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
It's very clear, you have to hit every ground strokes just the way you feel better and natural to you, and making sure that that stroke is trustworthy every time.
Thank you for watching 👍
Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
All the best
Simon
Thanks for making this video even though i didn't reach 100 likes. :).
You're a great coach.
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
I like how he uses his left hand to throw the racket from ready position to power position, saves some energy on hitting arm.
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Hi Simon, thanks for asking :)
I would appreciate if you guys can show
1. Footwork variations while smashing the overhead balls. Specially leg loading sequence. There is very little material on this in CZcams
2. Some exercises to get racket drop correct after the "trophy position" while smashing and serving.
Thanks again. I always enjoy your videos. Stay healthy guys!
Great work Simon
Thanks for watching Jorge
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
His grip and technique is so different. It would be impossible for almost everyone. Could you do an analysis on Rublev s forehand? His grip and technique seems more common yet the power he produces is incredible.
It's high on the list
is del portro's a wta forehand?
The way his strings stay pretty much vertical the whole swing reminds me of Steffi Graf's.
True, Graf also hit extremely flat
Seems to me that Delpo’s “extreme eastern” grip is what shape his forehand. Less racket angle variation throughout the swing is necessary with such small margins. Same reason we don’t typically allow tons of wrist movement during volleys.The closer your grip gets to continental, the smaller the margin if error will be for hitting power.
Damn, an eastern grip always felt more natural to me (I think from playing table tennis, I also used a same shoulder finish a lot) and I had the biggest forehand amongst my academy growing up. It always seemed weird to folks that I had such a "modern" swing with such an "un modern" grip. Maybe I wasn't so weird after all.
Thank you for watching
Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
All the best
Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial when i do the open stance backhand, i have trouble doing the "kickout" with the outside leg like i do with the forehand
Outstanding as usual. The best I have seen on Del Po. Have you done Nadal?
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
Great Analysis Simon! I really enjoyed.
Does his extreme eastern grip derives from the fact that is also 198 cm tall so he needs way less spin comparing to other players in order to avoid errors...having a higher point of contact with the ball that allows him to be more aggressive...So he consciously takes advantage of that?
I'd say his height allows him to do that but look at a player like Khacanov, 6'4 and plays with an extreme western grip, almost breaking his wrist on every forehand he hits.
Del Potro just found a method that allows him to smash winners for fun
Eastern grip prowess. This enables him to drive the ball and have so much pace. I’ve played with an Eastern grip all my life. Topspin is still achievable but not as much as semi-Western, but the drive and pace you get from an Eastern forehand is awesome because it is on the flatter side.
Absolutely
Funny thing is there’s a video when he’s in his late teens and he had a bent arm and more extreme grip. Not sure when he made the switch but it obviously worked out well for him….
I know it likely won't get as much views but can you do Copil's backhand? It's one of the flattest OHBH on tour and it flat hitters in this era of tennis fascinate me.
Delpo magique.."La danse avec la raquette" - il restera mon idole sans aucun doute❤
Do you suggest delpotro's backswing for today's game is you want to become pro and why??
Massive
Thanks for watching 👍
Are there any lessons you would like to see in 2022?
Best wishes,
Simon
So..
1. Big loop pullback
2. Hit flat, through the ball.
3. Racket face is perpendicular to impact, then windshield wiper motion
Exactly
Awesome video! One more thing: he straightness out his arm. I feel like the biggest/best forehands of time do that (Fed, Nad, Delpo)
Yes, a very valid point.
However, Gonzalez (maybe biggest forehand of all time) used a double bend on his forehand
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Gonzales' forehand was insane! I've watched it on CZcams and it's ridiculous. Have you done an analysis on his forehand? If not, you definitely should!
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial You are right, his forehand was insane with a double bend yes. I have a decent bend in my forehand aswell, but really like the straight arm style. I have seen you say that you (Simon) switched from bend to nowadays straight arm. Do you recommend this for others?
Do you have a video and hitting short angles on the backhand and forehand wing? If not can you make one? Thanks
We don't but we'll keep that in mind
Analyze Gonzo forehand I like gonzo forehand it was so big and heavy that he could hit the middle of the court and many player could not handle it because he mixed lots of pace with lots spin.
We did already, it's part of our Forehand Revolution course here - www.top-tennis-training.com/course/forehand-revolution/
I think Juan Martin del Potro and Steffi Graf have the same forehand movement. It would be interesting to compare the two in slow motion.
Great video! I’ll try this today with my slinger bag
Thank you for watching 👍
Are there any lessons you would like to see in the near future?
All the best
Simon
Great video! However I think you missed one of the big advantages of Del Potro's technique. The head of the racket travelling perpendicular to the ground means he doesn't need to time his shot perfectly. He can be a bit early or late to the ball and he still hits with the same angle. If the racket is closed then opening of the racket must be perfectly timed for the point of contact.
This is perfect for him because he can expect that the opponent will use his power and the ball will be coming back to him with similar power. Not having to time your shot precisely gives you a bigger margin to play with.
Excellent point 👍
I've been trying to implement elements from Del Potro's forehand and I've definitely got more consistency. I can swing with more confidence now and hit the frame much less. I've definitely lost topspin but it is worth it for the consistency and extra power that I got now.
Thank you for this video. I've never heard the term "extreme eastern" grip before and I've never payed attention to where my heel pad was really. What's it called if you have your heel pad on bevel two and your index knuckle on bevel three? This is my grip, is this bad?
Thanks for watching.
Heel pad on bevel two and base knuckle on bevel three would equate to an extreme eastern, similar to DelPo's
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons Thanks for replying. I’ve never had tennis related injuries. Feel very comfortable with this grip, but I think I will try to experiment a bit with regular eastern grip, guess it will generate topspin a bit easier.
I would love to see a video about choosing the most appropriate play style for just you. I’m experimenting a lot with different tactics and techniques but sometimes gets confused about what type of play I should choose that fits me the best.
Hi, can u do a Analyse from MATTEO BERRETTINI forehand, would be awesome ty
Added to the list!
Thanks for watching
All the best
Simon
Can you add a link to that Fed video where he modify racket angle as it comes down into the slot?
Here you go - czcams.com/video/pLs30GcRlm0/video.html
Who was better player, Nalbandian or Del Potro??
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember from previous videos that Alex keeps his racquet face vertical throughout the take back as well. Is he using Del Potro's extreme Eastern grip or the conventional Eastern grip?
When I said "vertical" I meant the strings facing the side fence as opposed to having it closed like Federer and Nadal.
Alex uses this method also for sure, but his grip is semi-western
2:31. His index knuckle is towards Continental. It´s almost at the corner between bevels 2 and 3. It´s not a pure Eastern.
I’d classify it as an extreme eastern, but still an eastern
Does tsitsipas use the same grip as Del Potro, I saw a slow motion of stefanos and his racket face faces the right side the whole time as well
Heel pad yes, base knuckle no.
His grip is very weird as he doesn't spread his fingers like most pros, holds it like a hammer
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Thx for the comment, This video really helped me understand Del Potro's forehand, Keep up the work it's amazing
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Alex De Minaur has this "racket face faces the right side" forehand too.
If you go back in time for 35-40 years, Del Po’s forehand actually looks normal (not unique) 😀
Definitely not his massive loop
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Well, Borg and Graf have an Eastern FH with a pretty good size loop, very similar to DP FH. I love your channel for the modern tennis lessons.
I love federer grip, FOR ME its useful and let me be agressive looking for corners
What do you think about it?
PD: Nice video, you are the Best Simon
I use Federer's grip also (Eastern)
I love it!
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you want to see from us in 2020?
All the best
Simon
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial robot
I was watching your lightning bolt serve video and I was wondering, can I do the lightning bolt serve with a heavy racket? I have the Pro Staff RF97 Autograph and I feel like the weight is dragging my serve power down.
Yes, you could do it, however it would require you to be strong enough in order to swing it fast and reduce your risk of injury
Definitely for semi pro to pro player type racquet recommenced a lighter one of you are casual player
I have a question. I am pretty fast and good at running to the edges. But I am bad at short balls. I always reach them, but I somehow move poorly. What could I do about that?
Check out this lesson on short balls - czcams.com/video/mS4o-_cQBnk/video.html
Can you analyze Tsitsipas's forehand? it's super compact and powerful
We'll keep that in mind for future lessons
All the best
Simon
3 surgeries on the left wrist. Eastern forehand is less stressful due to the mechanics
Do you mean semi western? As Del Po used a strong eastern
Where can I find this footage?
Of Del Potro's forehand?
Great video! Gonzales FH analysis?
We've done an analysis of Gonzalez's forehand inside our forehand course
Most players, even pros will fail if they try to copy Delpo's forehand. At best they may be able to incorporate some elements of it. I would not recommend a recreational player to try and copy it. It is likely to end up with injuries. To hit a ball like this requires incredible timing and to have a completely relaxed wrist through the swing. I would also point out how he is able to keep his head still thoughout the whole swing and to be in compete ballance even when hitting like this on the run. I am afraid this is imipossible for mere mortals...
Interesting as Federer himself suggested Delpo's forehand might be a better option for many players than his own... Keeping the face of the racquet relatively stable as opposed to the flip might simplify timing. For the same reason Agassi's forehand deserves consideration for rec players.
I agree, however, my summary at 10:05 sums up what players can try
Del Potro has the modern forehand!! you think that either?
Del Potro has the modern forehand but it’s more than that, he also uses a more classical grip and has a much bigger swing than most pros
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial Fernando Gonzalez the chilean has a big swing like him and even maybe bigger
Estoy en desacuerdo con la apreciación de la lesión de muñeca de Del Potro,no es por la forma de empuñar la raqueta,él usaba 60 lbs de presión para controlar su potencia,ese detalle fué lo que lo terminó de lesionar,aunque parezca increíble no existió ningún entrenador que le marcara ese error.Una verdadera pena.
I tried out that grip for a lark in practice early last week (pre-covid19 clampdown). What a laugh! Every ball sailed long. So I went back to my trusty semi-western and big topspin. To me, just as amazing as Del's forehand was how quickly he perfected his slice backhand and used it so effectively on tour when he came back from injury. What a talent! Would have won a slam or two more but for all those injuries.
Thanks for watching
Any lessons you would like to see in the coming months?
All the best and stay safe
Simon
Christopher Stratford yes I have tried using his grip before. I once hit a ball out of the court😂 I don’t know how the hell he used that grip
I'm using eastern grip. 😂 I never feel right with semi-western...
Eastern all the way 💪
In your opinion, who has the better backhand topspin form? Denis or fed ?
Shapovalov has the potential to be better long term but at this moment, Federer for sure.
Denis can do some incredible things with his backhand but day to day, his drive isn't consistent enough in terms of quality
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons once again you always reply. Thanks a lot Simon, you’re awesome.
Of course sir, without our viewers, we're nothing!
Any lessons you would like to see in the coming months?
All the best and stay safe
Simon
Top Tennis Training - Pro Tennis Lessons
Singles strategies or some more on high one handed backhand or maybe more federer forehand
Here you go sir:
Federer forehand analysis - czcams.com/video/pLs30GcRlm0/video.html
High backhands - czcams.com/video/sJ63cneHKTQ/video.html
Tactics - czcams.com/play/PLJP-Wou-v6z2RFwFLIqS588hrVtFxl2eI.html
His injury is on his left wrist. Nothing to do with his forehand grip.
Wrong, Del Petro has had issues and surgeries on both wrists.
So next time you want to call something out, do some research.
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial lol I liked how you removed the "jerk" part after the youtube rage subsided.
You're right, I didn't know of his right one.
Have a nice day
Check the girl at 8:21, not real interested in the forehand ha
She couldn't care less
I no speak inglish ,? what is grip del Potro ?
Eastern forehand 👍
Simon,thoughts on why pro players don’t drop that non hitting arm down like del potros forehand with his left arm? we know for a fact it creates more of a linear swing path and consequently more power.dont see why they don’t add this to there repertoire
What evidence is there to support that?
A more linear swing benefits players who like to flatten out the ball of course but for most ATP players, they want to keep a high level of consistency and margin so hitting flatter isn't something they want on 80% of their strokes.
Del Potro is 6'5 so he's an exception, not the norm
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial If i am wrong about the arm dropping for more of a linear swing path then why does he even need to do it and instead have the arm come across like the ATP players?
I'm not saying you're wrong, however, I've never come across that theory before.
I think the position of his left hand is just something unique to him and not something he's done intentionally.
Maybe I'm wrong, it could be something he's worked on but I'd imagine it was just natural for him
it's time to analyze tsitsipas' forehand
We'll add it to the list!
I think Fernando Gonzalez had a bigger forhand.
Possibly, but why leave such a comment under the lesson? You could have said thanks for the lesson…
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial I apologize if my comment was interpreted as negative in any way towards the video Del po. It was not intended in anyway to be negative towards your analysis or him, Del po Easley has one of the greatest forehands of all time and me saying that Gonzalez for hand was bigger is not to say that his forehand wasn’t big, McEnroe once described Federer’s forehand as a lightning rod, if that’s true then Del po’s forehand is an earthquake easily one of the top 3 forhands of all time.
I was just saying I thought Gonzalez had a bigger forehand probably. I probably should’ve given a better explanation. Oh and by the way I apologize for not complementing the video of my original comment, coach Simon your analysis is fantastic the video really breaks down his forehand in great detail and why it was so good and powerful. And I do agree his grip is part of the reason why he had so many wrist injuries. I apologize if my comment seemed like I was dissing his forehand I would never do that.
OMG
I disagree with 2 points. First that his eastern grip has been a cause of injuries. He did injure his right wrist once but his repeated problems have been with the left wrist and there's no stress in his forehand swing that I see. He may just have bad genes in regards to his wrist. Second saying an eastern grip is extreme. It's the Western grip that's extreme and in my opinion all juniors should be taught an eastern forehand to begin with as its more versatile and can produce just as much topspin. See federer. In the modern age kids are far too quick to adopt western forehands. Great video though.
There’s only one Roger, not everyone can produce as much topspin as him using an eastern. Del Potro actually uses an extreme eastern, further round than an Agassi or Federer, which was my point.
Sub spanish please 😭🙏🙏
👍
isn't Delpo the player who has had two wrist surgeries?
I speak about that in the video.
Maybe next time, you should watch the whole video before you make comments like that!
Actually, DelPo had two times surgery of his LEFT wrist ... @@TopTennisTrainingOfficial
No, his first wrist surgery was on his right wrist
@@TopTennisTrainingOfficial That is true, back in 2010. But he played for 10 years since then whitout right wrist problems. Two difficult surgeries and a minor one he had in 2014-2017, missing two seasons in total, were all on the left wrist, yet somehow you imply in the video that his wrist problems result from his forehand grip
I spoke about his extreme grip on the left hand also but had to chop it out due to the video becoming too long.
For sure his grip impacted his injuries, not saying that was the only reason but it had an impact.
He's had injuries on the right wrist during the past decade, I watched him at queens with his right wrist taped up due to an injury. Maybe he didn't require surgery but still.
But hey, I'm sure you already know that with your incredible tennis knowledge