The Difference Between SnowRunner and American Truck Simulator
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- This week Snowrunner released a brand new DLC Western Star 57x. So Let"s compare this truck to American Truck Simulator where it was also added.
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0:00 Model Comparison
1:09 Sound Comparison
2:47 Customisation
3:56 Truck Damage
4:30 Truck Physics
5:04 Western Star 47X - Comparison
6:27 Customisation of Western Star 47X NF 1424
7:13 Customisation of Western Star 47X NF 1430
7:42 Outro
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Man, this really makes me wish American Truck Simulator had the truck physics and damage model of SnowRunner.
No, only the graphics
Snowrunner physics are bugged
@@thejuicyorange8526 I agree, tho the damage is kinda fun, and would make ATS (and ETS2 ofc) that lil bit more immersive to me. That you got like 20% damage on your truck but no visible dents is just kinda, ehh ya know? Tho it's such a small thing it doesn't bother most players, and for me only every now and then.
@@hezvandermeij or even have the dent physics and wear/maintenance mechanics from My Summer Car, where if you hit something, you actually have a permanent dent there, which can ever change size and shape, depending on what you hit and at what speed. You can also see when a headlight bulb is blown, and if your engine throws a rod, you will have an actual hole in your oil pan, and actually lose all your oil. If you don't change your oil, you will suffer from major mechanical damage, if your valves are misadjusted, the engine will missfire, pop back in the intake and run like junk. I find it quite disappointing that no other game devs have implemented hyperrealistic maintenance, damage and repair physics yet, as MSC truly shows the potential of such systems, and it would be quite realistic to have a rusty used truck fail inspection because the frame is rusted out, to break down with a leaking injector causing the engine to miss on 1 cylinder, have reduced power and smoke out the exhaust, to get a nail in a trailer tire or to have a rustbucket car drop a muffler, and if you run it over, it destroys your oil pan, giving you an oil pressure warning and 10 seconds to shut the engine off or you get a rod knock. Or if you leave the lights on when entering a ferry or resting, your battery will be dead leaving you stranded and you need to call a wrecker and get towed. You know, the sort of stupid stuff most irl trucks (and truckers) eventually suffer from at some point in their lives.
Physics sucks compered to ATS, what it is only bouncy you can achieve that in ats by using console commands for suspension stiffness (and cab stiffness in ets2) by typing negative values (for e.g -0.5)
You know I thought ATS was really good at making trucks seem realistic but man SnowRunner did this just to show off to ATS.
The agenda for both the games are entirely different...
American Truck focuses on map expansions and long haul, and hence dedicate more time to develop maps, with basic required physics.
Snow Runner on off-road haul, with limited map and focus more on physics for more off-roady experience.
But they could improve a little on physics with ats especially when it comes to picking up a load on a gravel road or going over a bump .... yes the trucks in ats do bounce a little but not nearly as enough in snowrunner would be nice to see a little more put into truck physics in ats
@@Jordannelson23 Well, part of the problem is that SCS roads are as smooth as butter. The second problem is that the game has no tire physics and no cab suspension. It also has no hood movement, no exhaust shake, no mudflap movement, no antenna sway, no physical air ride seat movement, or anything else. It's a brick in the shape of a truck.
We know buddy, a lot of us play both and it ain't bout which one is better or anythin either
It's just a fun lil video :)
ETS & ATS are relaxing. The smooth as butter road helps that...
And here we go with an SCS fanboy coming up with excuses for SCS stagnation...
The ideal truck sim would be a mixture of ATS/ETS, Snowrunner, and My Summer Car
alaskan and australian truck simulator (not released yet)
I've seen a trailer of a game who sounds similar and forgot it's name, however its still not released so well probably hear about it more in the future
Curious why you included My Summer Car there?
I can understand the concept, but I'm still not fully sure. Just wondering 🙂
@@kylec5211 Ets already has fatigue simulation, why not add more hunger, thirst etc. The ability to get out of your truck, and to actually work on it too. Need to manually add coolant, engine oil like in My summer car. Wish the devs would explore the driver side of realism too.
@@rkshn that's what I had been hoping you meant, and not 10,001 ways to die or explode 😅
Apples to oranges in terms of gameplay. ATS is a long haul truck simulator. Snowrunner is an off road driving simulator that also adds things like having to load/unload your own cargo via cranes, off road recovery, etc.
But in ATS you can actually drive on the highway without the truck flopping around until it spins out or falls over.
I really wish there was at least one highway map in Snowrunner.
@@-_Hatred_- There's a mod map called Highway Haulin' that you can download.
Do you even understand what snow runners is about you thick plum.
It's a nice map but don't get your hopes up for being able to go anywhere faster than 15 mph without sliding around and losing your cargo, especially on the downhills
@@rustbloodeclipse Exactly. I started the map and got onto the freeway. As soon as I got up to about 20 mph the truck swerved to the right and rolled over.
There's a lot ATS could learn from SnowRunner, more realistic physics and truck smoke for starters. Thank you Toast
theres some things snowrunner could learn from ats
fucking highways so snowrunner players can experience these trucks properly
Looking at these trucks in Snowrunner is really a joke! It’s like MudRunner had these similar trucks and they were utter useless offroad.
I have them all, inc spintires and the grind with Snowrunner is just terrible after you’ve put in 25 30 hours. Monotonous back and forth with logs because you can’t do multiple drops like spin or mud. Snowrunner should have kept to single maps instead of spanning them. That’s what killed it
@@cumunist2120 snowrunner is about off roading
Trucks don't even smoke anymore no idea what you're even talking about
@@TheSultan1470 That don't surprise me
0:35 I always found the ATS headlight effect to be very unrealistic and now it's clear why
This video is same when you comparing coffee with juice.
ATS is focusing on long - drives, map expansion and basic physics. You wont often be on off-road, unless its start/end of your journey. Its trucker simulator, that again, focuses on map expansion and basic physics because they are not needed. You will ride on quality, flat road.
SnowRunner is just off-road simulator, that of course focuses more on realism than small things like in ATS, for example, interior. Your orders will always be on off road. You don't need that interior or multiple - function screen on small or medium amount of distance.
So, ATS - trucker simulator, long distance, basic physics, small but interesting features like functional screen.
SnowRunner - off road simulator, small - medium distance, improved physics, and GOOD customisation of truck (almost same like in ETS2!).
But anyways, video is good!
I'm kind of shocked I haven't heard about SnowRunner until now. Makes me wonder what else I'm missing out on. Great comparison between the two, thanks!
Yes you have, its literally SpinTires Mudrunner copy paste. Came out in 2017.
@@evaone4286 bruh
@@evaone4286 Hardly lmao
@@evaone4286 Oh god you're one of those idiots. Bro Snow Runner is miles away from Mud Runner and light years from Spintires.
Check out Alaskan Truck Simulator too.
This video has shown me that the truck Physics in ATS need improved. When the truck was driving down the paved road in the exterior view, it was totally rigid. It would look much better if it moved up and down on its suspension more. Amazing work, great video.
For this, of course, it would be nice to add flaws on the road, and in ATS it is perfectly flat and smooth, as if it was smoothed out with an iron)
You can ajust the rigidity of the suspension and what not in ATS and ETS2 and it'll feel less like a brick on rails, specially at higher speeds, doing curves and such. Look on the Gameplay tab of the Configurations. Ajusting all bars to 50% seems to have enough realism for the roads, but you can go lower and have a jello on marshmallow experience. 😂
@@chaoswarriorbr Literally this
Everyone talking about how the truck is rigid when you can adjust the settings to make it not so
There is a mod that actually works pretty decent and upgrades truck physics on ATS.
@@Elijah1573 if they used a procedural algorithm to generate a realistic uneven road surface, ats would look even less rigid, perfectly smooth roads do sad things to realism.
I can’t wait to go pc and play hours of ATS/ETS, meanwhile snow runner is long removed to save HD space 😂 says it all.
gotta remember that snowrunner doesn't have manual transmission (at all!) and you need to force it to 900° of rotation on the wheel because by default it's (if I remember correctly) 480°, and all vehicles feel like they are sliding on ice when on the pavement.
I love snowrunner but not on a wheel setup, one of the reasons I barely play it and sometimes am quite sad that I bought it over mudrunner. Amazingly beautiful game and some parts of the physics are insanely detailed but overall a very lackluster experience for those wanting a proper truck simulator.
The ice feeling is still on mudrunner, on grizzly map you can't even turn on the windy parts of the road
Snowrunner is perfect to play with a x-box controller
@@janlassen6101 agreed, been playing mudrunner with Xbox controller and for me it's much easier
@@janlassen6101 yes, but my comment was entirely on a wheel, pedals and h-shifter, a simulator should support those things flawlessly.
I completely agree, the wheel and peripheral support for Snowrunner is shameful, and a sizable step backwards from where they were at in Mudrunner. If I could play Snowrunner with a wheel and shifter from the cockpit cam in a reasonably realistic way it would pretty much be my dream game, but as it stands right now it is pretty dreadful unless you're in third person with a controller, which just isn't how I play driving simulators.
Both games are great and both games are good at different things.
ATS is also much older too, so I'd expect Snowrunner to have the better physics.
No it's "much older" but its still being actively worked on, theyve had 7 years to fix the physics, update sound etc, but they don't do it. Surely ATS should have the advantage because it's older simply because theres been more time to upgrade everything and work out all the issues
@@WETiLAMBY what's wrong with ATS physics?
@@SiisKolkytEuroo theyre completely incorrect, often described as being on rails. I've never heard an actual truck driver say they're good before, I've always heard theyre blatantly inaccurate
@@WETiLAMBY what game physics have you heard receive praise from actual truck drivers?
@@WETiLAMBY If ATS is on rails Snowrunner is on ice. Snowrunner still doesn't have fully simulated Automatic and Manual transmissions for the past 9 years, since Sabers first game released. It's sad. Neither games are fully realistic
someone should take the accessories from the snowrunner version and add them into ATS. Those frunt bumpers are epic
There are many accessories you can change in ATS, more in line what you'd modify on a long haul truck. Interior stuff, mugs, laptop, things, different mirror finish, different bull bars, side panels, interior color,... They didn't even show the ATS customization in the video.
@@jondasek what?
@@misterlove6225 yeah i think ats has awesome ass bumpers somewhere in its customization
Both are amazing! I wish they could unite the best elements of it in 1 game!
It's incredible the difference a game developer makes.
Can we take a minute to appreciate the body physics on the 57x @ 1:39 . That frame and cab seperation is sorely needed in ATS.
Technically there is an option for cab physics in ATS cfg, it is normaly aviable in ETS in menu, but it doesn't do anything in ATS sadly. For whatever stupid reason.
Yes it is!
Exacto
I think the one in SR is wrong. I am not trucker but I work in the scale house of a recycling facility, where I can see trucks very closely. From trucks that I see, engine hood moves with chassis; cab and sleeper is separate from chassis, with suspension in between (coil or air spring and shock absorber). There is a gap between cab and engine hood.
@@pqhkr2002 On the IRL versions of the trucks in the video, the hood hinge is mounted to the frame, while the rear attachments are to the front of the cab, so there is some movement taking place, though you wouldn't really see that much movement between the bottom of the front of the hood and the bumper.
I play ATS with minimal truck and trailer stabilization. And believe me, the gameplay has changed for the better. If this is not enough, there are mods for the "Revamped Dynamic Suspension" in the Steam Workshop, after installation, also reduce the stabilization to a minimum.
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That's a huge plus. Add in damage and dirty trucks and I don't think I would have any complaints.
@@2500mike You seem to be unfamiliar with the licensing terms of real brands in games. None of the manufacturers will want to see dirty and even more so broken vehicles on the roads. Therefore, an honest developer does not give us this madness.
@@oldschool6308 This is not the reason SCS has no damage or dirt
A long time ago SCS experimented with dirt but just didnt like how it came out However recent leaks suggest they may be looking into it again
As for damage they never confirmed nor denyed if licensing is the reason
Despite that i see no reason for a damage model to be created This isnt wreckfest afterall
@@Elijah1573 SCS has nothing to do with it. It's all about the marketing department of each of the brands. If you read my message correctly, of course, since I am writing through Google translator.
Nice video. Suggestion for your next comparison maybe tone down the music a touch not just through the audio representation parts.
Awesome comparison 👍💪
Nice comparison video!
They simulate different things, though. Would be cool to get a mix of them in one package, though. Maybe even just getting a truck dirty in ATS/ETS2 and a bit of powerwash simulator tossed in there to clean it up after awhile to see the cool paintjob again.
Excelente la comparación! Muy buen trabajo
I'd love to see someone do an RP mashup among ATS, Snowrunner and maybe even Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 where you could tell an entire story. Something like flying yourself from Texas to Washington state where you would pick up a new Western Star, then stop by and pick up a piece of heavy equipment on a lowboy or something and have to drive the whole thing back to Texas to drop it off. You'd probably have to use a filter to make things cohesive, but I've seen some talented CZcamsrs who could pull off a great RP story like that.
0:55 bro that truck is better than my room😭
There's a good chance that for SCS to have the same level of physics as SnowRunner, they would have to develop a new gaming engine. There's a good chance that a new engine would not be compatible with the existing game and DLCs so people would have to buy everything from scratch again. I think SCS prefers expanding the current game then putting the game in a niche section where only hard core gamers will like it. Because to be honest, most people don't care about this. They just want to play the game for fun
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ATS is a good game but they have room for so much improvement. I really hope they overhaul the engine instead of just making new DLC states.
some lighting changes would work wonders for sure
I have no idea what use a highway long hauler has in SnowRunner?
The upcoming DLC will have a lot of Highway Driving from what I heard. And Remoh's Highway Haulin region mod.
@@WastelandWanderer1216 The mod region is super fun to be honest :)
@@WastelandWanderer1216 thank u for the info
@@WastelandWanderer1216 Still, that only makes this truck pack worth it for people that will also own Phase 8. You could use them in Michigan, but even there it's quite a struggle without AWD. I haven't seen the new maps yet, but I hope they'll have uninterrupted highways so that we can finally properly use highway trucks.
@@Adrian_Zgripcea There are some people who don't drive American trucks on russian maps and vice versa. For...ehm..immersion reasons. Would you ship your american truck to russia where it doesn't have any suitable service or spare parts to fix? I wouldn't lol.
Nice comparison 🧐☕
Snowrunner have some nice graphics whether it is p.c or platform.
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Most likely both of these trucks were modelled by the same Artist,
Since it's officially licensed there's also a huge chance that The company provided the base 3D model,
They also put a lot of restrictions regarding what you can change or can't change.
That's what I was thinking. They may be imported differently but the models are generally by the manufacturer.
SCS does the models themselves. They visit the dealership and take 3D scans. They even got videos of that on their official channel.
@@strukitru Just like FH5
@@kgaming7599 Didn't I just disclaim your hypothesis.
@@strukitru No not really. I didn't really specify what I meant hehe
The lighting in snowrunner is so good
Not very realistic but very moody and atmospheric indeed.
I like both games lol but if I was picky and had to choose just one I probably would go with snow runner with having ground deformation and more offroading then ats
I play SR on ps5 and it's nice to know that the semis themselves are pretty accurate I felt since its more offroad the vehicles wouldn't be as detailed but I was surprised to see SR put enough detail on the vehicles in the game. Wish we could actually use the highway trucks a bit more they become useless after the first two sections of the map.
Yeah but really there are only two highway only trucks
@@FCKy613 yes but they are nice Trucks with nice modifications I would like to use them a little more or have an option to upgrade to awd.
Now if Snow Runner would only incorporate the Tobii Eye Tracker 5 system.
ATS is an older, tired game engine and in dire need of upgraded graphics and physics. It’s really showing it’s age now. The SCS dev’s keep promising as such, but instead of being focused on maps instead of the game mechanics themselves this is what we’re left with in ATS.
if this was a competition to see which was better this will be absurdly unfair.
we deserve a hybrid between both games
Ats with lsnowrunner graphics and offroading physics... with beamng drive driving and damage physics... now that would be an awesome game to play
why did you didn't put the ATS truck customisation ?
how come, there is license for damage, dirty and smoke from pipes for snowrunner, and not for ats/ets2?
Because SCS engine probably doesn't support that, so its easier to say its because of licensing.
Beautiful all
I played both but they are different style of driving simulators. One is offroad style other more urban.
glad to see this truck in snowrunner
only because it allows them to keep the white western star license
Is possible make big maps in Snowrunner?
damn, American Truck Simulator sounds so weird without it's reverb feature on
I wish snow runner had a map where the roads were actually drivable
They have have one its a mod but it's still a fun one
The thing is, there're about a 10 year difference between there two games.
I wish there was mix of American Track Simulator and SnowRunner. But wait, what about Alaska Track Simulator?🤫
big fan of ATS, but they definitely need to improve engine sounds! thank god for mods.
На базе Showrunner'a нужно делать симулятор дальнобойщика! Это была бы пушка!
Так, було б круто
Snowrunner is not a long haul trucking simulator. It is an off road game. They devoted resources for a specific discipline. ATS did the same. No clue why these two are even being compared. They aren't even trying to be the same type of game.
I want to love SnowRunner, but I always feel like the truck is on ice when you get on pavement.
The game engine doesn’t like it when you go fast, that’s not it’s purpose.
The only thing I don't like about snow runner is that any type of high speed you can not controll the truck anymore
Imagine if they made a game together
I wonder how Snowrunner team convinced the Western Star team to authorize their beautiful trucks to have visual and physical damages in a video game, to my knowledge, none of the truck manufacturers ever authorized their beautiful real trucks to get any visual damages in any video games ever.
To be fair the 47x sleeper is a pretty decent truck to use.
Are the simulator games downloadable
Ats customisation ?
Vote in the comment what do you like the most?
Snowrunner or ats?
Wait, i didn't know that Snowrunner also had the 57X. When did they added that?
Yesterday :D
@@toastcz ah...
Mac compatibility would definitely help
I wish so bad they would release ATS on consoles along with mod support
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I really want the cross child of farming simulator 22, ats and snowrunner. I'd be in heaven
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Question: If Snowrunner having their real brand in their Western Star trucks, why are there visible damage compared to ATS Western Star trucks despite their licensing agreement do not permit developers to make their trucks damaged?
thats what i like to know
Special licensing i guess plus not a lot of brands make intro Snowrunner compared to ETS and ATS where there's no drivable made up brand
For this to happen all license holder across both ATS and ETS2 have to agree, would be weird you you could damage Daimler and Volvo trucks, but no the rest.
@@bladypiter plus Snowrunner doesn't have as many licensed vehicles such as ATS and ETS
Because licensing agreement is a quick and poor excuse as to why we don't have damage in ATS. That has never been confirmed as to why we cant have damage, perhaps maybe their game engine doesn't even support damage for all we know. Previous games from SCS didn't have licensing and still didn't have damage physics.
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Snowrunner é desafio sempre,ja o ats pra você ter uma imersão e um pouco de entretenimento ao jogar, pois no Snowrunner quase sempre o jogo vai testar sua capacidade ao máximo, tanto em estradas como e lamançais ou até mesmo a neve, porém o ats é mais para o quesito imersão e ao mesmo tempo ser divertido ,como entregar uma carga do ponto A ao B,ou um multiplayer com os amigos, e na boa ainda tem muita coisa a evoluir em ambos...
One is realistic and the other even more realistic
I try and be bias to both games but ya see one is an off road game simulator while the other is a trucking simulator based on highway and what little offroad there is it's mainly gravel
Ambos son perfectos, en conducción ats se lleva el premio, expansión de mapas, calidad en interiores, pero snow en física, gráficos exteriores, el lodo, el humo
A mí el interior de los dos son empate
Let's not forget that SCS has a license agreement with Western Star and also given complete tech specs/blueprints of the truck. They got to release the virtual truck the same day as the real truck release. Reality is you wouldn't be driving that Western Star in those horrific off road scenarios period. It was designed as a modern cross country road truck. Not off roading in mud and rocks which in real life would probably get stuck almost immediately.
don't worry it gets instantly stuck in game too
In game, it gets stuck on literally anything and is useful only on roads and highways or built dirt tracks.
You clearly haven’t played the game
Snowrunner is next level🔥but i also enjoy ATS and ETS
3:26 - Transformers reference
Showrunner needs native vr nuff said
why the smaller versions of these trucks have no diff lock or awd is beyond me
they would be total weapons if they did have it
They do now and yeah total beast.
I wish I had the stuff needed to play ATS
Snowrunner is Apocalyptic truck game i like it 🤩🤩
SnowRunner is a winner for me.
Did you forgot to show the customasation from ATS?
Those are clumsy, annoying and scarce. The shop too. And the cameras there.
snowrunner is just a king of the kings
In resume, ATS needs to improve drastically in physics and damage simulation. Physics could be upgraded with mods, there's actually one and works pretty good.
In damage simulation, ATS has a weak point. It is pretty frustrating that the vehicle remains pristine while you crash but the mechanical damage is present. How on earth?! Feels empty, awkward or weird.
I am not asking that you can make you truck blow up but aesthetical damage is needed. Just like other car simulators like Forza Horizon, NFS Heat or Snow Runner.
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daddy pig: its no good. it wont start
I honestly don't see why they can't bring ATS to console.. I'd pay top dollar for it and the expansions
interior detail of ATS with exterior detail + physics of SnowRunner. With a mixture of both games audio with more realistic truck audio, if not just out right real truck audio. i guess that would have to be mod only though. i want ATS to have more SnowRunner type jobs terrain wise, (offroad logging), but still keep ATS control. SnowRunner physics, but ATS control. i use keyboard and mouse with ATS and Xbox controller with SnowRunner. you can tell SnowRunner is a "game" vs ATS being a "simulator" so since i dont have a sim rig keyboard feels better with ATS.
SCS can definitely work on there sounds in game. Probably it's biggest flaw imo.
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@@kgaming7599 good job
There is a mod i use by kriechbaum for engine sounds
I pair this with a ton of other sound mods i got and it sounds amazing imo
No
Wish Snowrunner had an actual manual transmission
Snowrunner looks real
It seems like they have different budget
For me the suspension dipping in the front and bouncing you backwards on a hard stop really sells that you're braking hard. Reminds me of my days driving box trucks.
Snowrunner does a great job making the trucks look like they actually are used.
ATS just looks like a came off the dealership lot.
Honestly like the look of the trucks from Snowrunner better but the handling at higher speeds in ATS is better.
but does snowrunner have vr??
Snowrunner should come out with a long haul season.
Yasss
God no
Going anything above 30mph in snowrunner and the physics dont know what to do
Let alone the horrible first person camera and 0 wheel support
Leave it to SCS if you want a long haul game
@@Elijah1573 who are you to tell us what to leave to scs and what not
Gate admit I love the Snowrunners Phisics but I woud play Ats and Ets2 More
I personally do not like comparisons when the results were obtained with tools with different degrees of technology. It is obvious that the best technology will have better results.
Both are pc games; in what sense do you mean?
@@EDubiton Yes, they are both games, but it is as if you were to say: Toyota Corolla from 90 vs. 2010. The latter was developed with better technology and therefore will be better in almost every aspect.
@@EDubiton So Snow runner may naturally have realistic effects because its engine supports it, but ATS's doesn't, so forcing such a realistic implementation into an older engine won't work well.
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snowrunner is a console game or pc, truck simulator is for pc
@@Fire91ful thanks
Not really comparable. ATS is a simulator while Snowrunner is a game. Once I got ATS set up with Quest 2, G29 + truck gear stick, there's just no comparison.
ATS’ sound design has always bugged me. The trucks sound so quiet. That and mixers add older, better looking and sounding trucks than the devs.
snowrunner focus on offroad which so interesting than american truck...love the snowrunner physics & dirty looks...
I wish they release the ps5 version of truck simulator